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THE PASSAGE OF PROPOSITION 8 IN CALIFORNIA
TRIGGERS DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT PERSONAL FREEDOMS

While there is much to celebrate in the past week in American political life, there is also reason for sadness and deep concern. Whether you are gay or not, the removal of freedoms won by law is no laughing matter. On this day in 1941, Heinrich Himmler ordered the arrest and deportation to concentration camps of all homosexuals in Germany (save for a few high ranking Nazi officials…cronyism and hypocrisy aren't new things in politics). Pastor Martin Niemöller's oft-quoted commentary on the inaction of Germans who opposed the Nazi agenda sadly springs immediately to mind:

When the Nazis came for the communists
I remained silent
I was not a communist

When they locked up the social democrats
I remained silent
I was not a social democrat

When they came for the trade unionists
I did not speak out
I was not a trade unionist

When they came for the Jews
I remained silent
I was not a Jew

When they came for me
there was no one left to speak out

While there is plenty of finger pointing that can be done on this matter, it seems far more important to step back and look at the bald inhumanity of telling two people in love that they cannot marry, that they cannot have the same social sanctification as those around them simply because they share the same sex. For many of us it is inconceivable that we are still debating this issue in the 21st century. The need for some to tear down the rights of others out of fear and ignorance is never pretty, and the passage of Prop. 8 in California and measures like it in a number of other states threaten core values in the American ideal. If we truly believe that "all men are created equal," then why establish inequities against any of them?

We begin this week's Eye Candy with a Special Comment from the fine Countdown with Keith Olberman program on MSNBC from earlier this week. In a very succinct way, Olberman slices to the heart of the injustice and darkness behind the passage of Prop. 8 and asks perhaps the most relevant question to those who voted for the proposition that anyone has offered on the subject: "Why does this matter to you?"


The musical portion of this installment starts with one of the greatest gay protest songs of all-time, Tom Robinson's "Glad To Be Gay" taken from the Secret Policeman's Ball in 1979.


From Sessions at West 54th in 1998, here's Rufus Wainwright playing his "Danny Boy," which speaks to a different kind of Irish eyes smiling and crying.


While a strutting billboard for heterosexuality, Rod Stewart created one of the finest laments for gay bashing ever with "The Killing of Georgie (Parts I & II)."


We turn to another bit of throbbin' American manhood, Bruce Springsteen, who gives great humanity to gay life under A.I.D.S. that reminds us of the faces and souls behind the name calling and prejudice some people harbor. Instead of "The Boss," we offer you a live cover from Casiotone for the Painfully Alone overflowing with jagged feeling.


The abject loneliness and isolation created by a society that rejects one because of their sexual orientation has rarely been so clearly etched as Bronski Beat's "Smalltown Boy," captured here on the Oxford Road Show in 1984. Remember, every gay or lesbian person is someone's daughter or son. Would you like your child treated unfairly by anyone or denied the same rights as you? Listen to the pain in Jimmy Somerville's voice if you have any doubts about your answer to this question.


We conclude on a brighter note. Few songs have embraced gay culture as joyously as The Kinks' "Lola." Here's the lads in 1970 sharing a cherry cola down in Soho with the ol' "girl." Let it make you smile and then go out and do something for your fellow human beings. Fight for basic freedoms. Fight for fairness.


For more background on Proposition 8 pop over here

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[Published on: 11/15/08]
 

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hobojo Sat 11/15/2008 06:50AM
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FloridaJam Sat 11/15/2008 07:19AM
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alw7 Sat 11/15/2008 08:05AM
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In 2008 this is still an issue,what a joke. People are dying ,starving,the economy is going down the toilet,and people are really worried about who's fucking who.Sad commentayr on our society.

amack star Sat 11/15/2008 08:52AM
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iwantstogetfunkedup Sat 11/15/2008 08:57AM
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Prop 8 passing was a terrible outcome to an otherwise great election. This prop was spearheaded by the Mormon church and is all about making a huge group of people into second class citizens. This is taking a huge fucking step backwards.

amack star Sat 11/15/2008 09:22AM
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futhepharmer Sat 11/15/2008 09:39AM
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futhepharmer Sat 11/15/2008 09:52AM
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amack, do you even realize that our culture is built upon the premise that we love one and all, regardless who you are and what you're about. Yours and glassworks comments indicate the deterioration of our scene. Let me guess, you're under 25 years old and you probably believe in god (religious folks,please take no offense in that).

There is no room for racists and homophobes and especially the Religious Right round these here parts.

Mark Price former NBA star Sat 11/15/2008 09:52AM
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Mark Price former NBA star

Glassworks...NICE!!!

futhepharmer Sat 11/15/2008 10:05AM
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I'm not saying there is anything wrong with religion or that it doesn't belong in our culture, I just want to make this point.

Those of you who dislike gays are either under the influence of a religion that tells you that it's a sin, or you are a closet homosexual yourself.

believe that.

jcolb16 starstarstar Sat 11/15/2008 10:08AM
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claystribe starstarstar Sat 11/15/2008 10:08AM
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hellopeace Sat 11/15/2008 10:11AM
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just when you think that we have taken some many steps forward by voting a black man president, something like this takes place and completely derails equality. prop 8 and the people that support it are complete jokes. there is absolutely no reason for it except the control of folks that are easy to control because the lack the numbers and power to have a strong enough voice, yet. the good news in all of this is as with minority rights, women rights etc. its just a matter of time before gay folks have their day...and as far as the prejudice comments on this post...i am sure these folks would have been the same to have women and minorities the right to vote and marry too. keep in mind that it was as recent as 1967 when you were not allowed to marry out of your "race" too.

iwantstogetfunkedup Sat 11/15/2008 10:39AM
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Amcak- "the degradation of our society" ?? It's that viewpoint that perpetuates hate in our society. So, if you were dying and a gay paramedic came to save your life you would turn him away right? I think not. So then why should a gay man/woman be denied the same freedoms you enjoy?

Fondue starstarstarstar Sat 11/15/2008 10:56AM
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Wow, I never realized what "Lola" was about. Great song.

Okay, Jambase. You said you would ease up on the political agenda, and this is one of those real hot button issues, very divisive. I feel very strongly about this issue, as do many on here, but I don't feel that this is the place. I come to Jambase to read about and listen to music, relax and look forward to the next concert. Then I read an article like this and get all fired up. I think that this is a good post and brings up a lot of good things to think about, but I doubt you are changing anyone's mind.

Anyway, I'm not gay or anything, but that Rod Stewart fella is so ugly and yet so sexy. What a walking contradiction! :)

GlassWorks Sat 11/15/2008 11:03AM
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Mark Price former NBA star Sat 11/15/2008 11:08AM
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Mark Price former NBA star

this is the gayest thing that's ever been on Jambase

Armedanian Sat 11/15/2008 11:37AM
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Proposition 8 doesn’t really matter… it has no effect on a couple’s social, religious, or spiritual status, let alone their way of life. Marriage is a lifestyle, and if same sex couples want to live that way, there is still no law against it. The legality this proposition reflects only has financial effects… and there are plenty of financial difficulties we can be born into. Fortunately, with hard work and dedication, financial matters can be overcome. Homosexuals, unlike those who puff dank headies, won’t be dragged to jail for doing what they do. Unfortunately, no amount of money can prevent the Nazis from hauling you off… if you possess that sticky, icky, illegal Mother Nature. No, Proposition 8 doesn’t change the world at all, and to be honest, marriage shouldn’t provide a tax advantage to anyone. As far as “the degradation of society” goes… Gangster Rap already has that role filled!

hellyeah Sat 11/15/2008 12:55PM
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SmashySmashy Sat 11/15/2008 12:56PM
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jcolb16 - Take it from me, who is an actual evolutionary biologist at University of New Hampshire, but you lose this one. Homosexuality, or at least bisexuality, is incredibly prevalent in nature. In some cases, this behavior is thought to evolve as population control. Something that this world absolutely needs right now. Sorry my gay friends, I know that doesn't sound to romantic, but you are doing us a huge favor by not reproducing and by adopting. So even though I somewhat agree with you now and then jcol, I think you are extremely ignorant and you best not drop the "evolutionary biology" when there are real ones on this site. You are definitely not helping our cause by sounding like a moron. The fact is that this whole gay marriage thing is a non-issue. It is a waste of time. Our forefathers never wanted the government to control our personal lives. So go piss off and read one of Ron Paul's books, thanks.

Glamour Profession Sat 11/15/2008 01:02PM
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claystribe- It's that time of the month, eh?

SmashySmashy Sat 11/15/2008 02:01PM
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Wow claystribe, you calling the entire Mormon religion child molesters makes you just as bad as any of the homophobes against 8. I have my own issues with religion, but at least I am well read and educated on the issue. Less than 1% of Mormons are polygamists and less than 1% of the polys are down with the whole underage deal. You just justified amak's hate for a whole group of people because probably he too has a problem with less than 0.1% of them. Good job!

fishbone1 Sat 11/15/2008 02:09PM
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1% of 1% is 0.01%

marcsmall1 starstarstarstarstar Sat 11/15/2008 02:20PM
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Personally, I don't think it's any of my business who someone wants to screw or Marry. Marry your goddamn doorknob for all I care....It doesn't affect me. I don't see why anyone would care if someone else was gay or straight. Plus the fact that this issue gets the looney religious right so upset makes me support it all that much.

To Each Thier Own!!

phoolish Sat 11/15/2008 02:23PM
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How about this...why don't we make ALL unions between two individuals, civil unions in the eyes of the state. Leave the concept of "marriage" up to religions.

jus100odon Sat 11/15/2008 03:43PM
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phreak89 Sat 11/15/2008 03:45PM
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In some ways, if you think about it, Prop 8 was illegally passed. While yes everyone in California (and Florida and Arizona I think it was similar "Marriage Protection Laws" were passed) voted for this on his/her own beliefs, there were many churches that were promoting Prop 8 both in their churches and out on the streets. Forgive me for not remembering the specific law or amendment but I do know there is a law that says religious institutions cannot openly promote political figures or proposed laws. While this does still happen all the time sometimes it makes a difference sometimes it doesn't. It sure as hell seems to me it did this time. So I guess saying it was passed illegally was not the best was to put it but maybe it was promoted illegally and thus might have swayed a lot of people who might have had no real opinion on the law before. And you know how religious institutions promote their shit, with full fledged fire and brimstone talk.

marcsmall1 Sat 11/15/2008 04:35PM
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These people are out of their fucking minds....We have 2 retarded wars going on, a scary recession, massive unemployment and foreclosures, and these people are concerned with Gay People getting married? It seems like more of a mental health issue than a stance or belief.

Joshl92482 Sat 11/15/2008 04:59PM
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Before I begin my discussion I would like to say I am wholly apathetic on the issue as it does not affect me in any way shape or form... sorry I'm selfish like that. That being said

1) I do not know how I feel about gay couples being allowed to adopt children, please spare me the better off there than a crack house or China argument. 2) While we are a secular country, spare me "the we are not" stuff please its a dead horse we just are. Marriage has its roots in monotheistic reliegons, none of which say it is ok...... HOWEVER, if an individual state would like to pass this type of legislation it is not within the scope of the federal goverment's power to say either way. But if a state does do so that is not to say it should be recognized in a state that does not say so. Basic biology dictates that homosexuality is improper. The historical argument does not fly either... sorry

marcsmall1 Sat 11/15/2008 05:31PM
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Josh----If basic biology dictates such, can you explain why homosexuality exists in almost every species of vertebrate, and many species of insects?

marcsmall1 Sat 11/15/2008 05:40PM
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Oh, and by the way, over 1500 animal species exhibit homosexual behavior....It is well accepted and documented among the zoological community. Animals, in general, also exhibit sexual-type behavior for other reasons besides reproduction (fellatio, masturbation, etc). Some of them just happen to prefer members of the same sex.

gOdWesSaTaN Sat 11/15/2008 08:02PM
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gay straight trans all should be able to marry who they want why does it matter so much to you people is it really hurting you in any way, do you lie in bed at night and fear that gays will take over the world if they get the same rights as you. really explain why you care so much to deny someone these rights? before you answer think about it.

Armedanian Sat 11/15/2008 08:51PM
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God-Satan… What “rights” are being denied… the right to special tax considerations? If so, single people all across the country are denied those same tax benefits! Are their “rights” being infringed upon too? I think homosexuals are still “allowed” to do the same things my wife and I enjoy… without the arrest and deportation Pastor Niemöller refers to. The way this article compares the denial of paperwork to murder by the Nazis is ridiculous. Plenty of unfair things actually harm people or deny their basic civil rights… shouldn’t we spend our energies protesting them instead of this?

mmmFriedFrogLegs Sat 11/15/2008 09:05PM
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yeh this has got to be the lamest saturday eye candy. comeon jambase. although i believe marriage is something sacred between a man and a woman. and its just a tradition thing that i believe gays should look past. i mean gays get treated equally in most other facets from what i understand and how i was raised. some of my best friends have been homosexual and stand up individuals, i do find homosexuality unnatural to me i just judge others on individual basis and treat them as id like to be treated. its just i expect to see something maybe with high quality sat eye candy on the subject of MUSIC, major letdown. because i always look forward to sat eye candy and sunday spin. and this is lame.jambase chill with the politics. we want music coverate/ live improve preferably.so im askin u once again . cut the potical shit.

gOdWesSaTaN Sat 11/15/2008 09:12PM
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well here in georgia its not legal to issue a marriage license to a homosexual couple and there marriage isnt recognized if its out of state so my point is they dont have the same rights as a straight couple and they should be recongnized everywhere and legal everywhere. i agree bicthing on a message board isnt gonna change anything so yeah protesting would help more then this pointless message board. i just wanted to know why so many people on here are so freaked out about gays getting married and why there so concerned about denying them the right to get married. just think about if you werent legally allowed to be married to your wife.

drnokbot starstarstarstarstar Sat 11/15/2008 09:47PM
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This is a human rights issue. That is why jambase is taking a stand. Apple also publicly spoke against Prop 8 for the same reasons.

schofizzl Sun 11/16/2008 01:17AM
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i'm personall disgusted by the fact that jambase didn't post any Queen videos on this article.

Mark Price former NBA star Sun 11/16/2008 03:12AM
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Armedanian Sun 11/16/2008 06:03AM