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wut? starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/15/2006 08:51PM
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wut?

good stuff...looks like an amazing time

DirtyRice starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/15/2006 09:18PM
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DirtyRice

note editor: that was brain on the kit for praxis. dude grew his hair a wee bit since last time i seen him but his chops are very recognizable. praxis must do a late night freakshow next year!

ambrosiajam Wed 11/15/2006 09:27PM
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i wish i could find a few grand and go blow it at vegoose next year...

Hotchkiss starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/15/2006 10:44PM
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Hotchkiss

that was a great review of the killers set.

All Loving Liberal White Guy Wed 11/15/2006 10:59PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

great write up and photos. props to kayce for showin love to bill laswell.

être Thu 11/16/2006 12:49AM
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être

Great music but piss poor lay out compared to last year. Bands played over one another unless you were close to the stage. Hip hop meshed into Widespread Panic segueways. (very annoying) The crowd was great again. It was great to see Phil, Trey, Rhythm Devils w/ Mike Gordon but.... The YARD DOGS ROAD SHOW was by far the coolest show of the weekend.

redredwine star Thu 11/16/2006 05:21AM
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VEGOOSE SUCKED THIS YEAR

VIP WAS GOD AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWFULLLLL....

I PAID $500 FOR WHAT!!!!!!!!????????????

-A CRAPPY GATED OFF SPOT NEXT TO THE STAGE?
-A VIP TENT A MILE FROM THE MAIN STAGE?

WORST TREATMENT EVER...

I CAN'T BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE AREN'T OUTRAGED AT THIS

RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nothing against the music... just crappy promoters

starting with NOT ANNOUNCING THE OFFICIAL LINEUP until LIKE A WEEK BEFORE

horrible..just horrible

hatfieldsbro starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 06:48AM
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The message was clear... Hide the children because Widespread Panic is back in town.

hahahah ur god damn right

SuperDee starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 07:07AM
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SuperDee

tremendous!

cocheese Thu 11/16/2006 07:28AM
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cocheese

PANIC IS BACK, YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!


toestothenose starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 07:38AM
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toestothenose

This is how a review should be done! Excellent multimedia coverage! Love the photo work Jurick - nice to see someone do something different also.

Luthur starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 07:50AM
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Question... How many people were there? I kept hearing things about poor pre-ticket sales. Looked like a good time.


lovejahlive starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 08:00AM
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lovejahlive

Sorry I missed the Panic.

VWFiend Thu 11/16/2006 09:06AM
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Widespread Panic is a bunch of homos. Nice costumes, I bet the show "raged." WSP sucks.

dier13 starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 09:41AM
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to VWfiend...

can i ask who are you to say WSP "sucks"...thats the single most ignorant post you could make...just dont post if what you have is completely closed minded and of no relevance to the article as a whole...

and ps...panic doesnt suck one bit...in fact they are on their way back...hopefully people like you wont figure that out and stay away from the amazing things they are doing

Tristan starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 09:41AM
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Tristan

I docked y'all one star. Here's why: my face melted at Vegoose. One show single-handedly made my Vegoose experience 5-star-worthy. Everyone in attendance was struck stupid after its completion at 6AM Sunday morning (I haven't seen that many confused kids post-show since the last time Phish was on). Apparently, Jambase found this show to be merely "mentionable," whereas I rate this show among my top 5 concert experiences, ever. So, you lost a star because I have a different opinion than you...

Phil and Trey late night was epic. Anyone who missed this show missed out on the weekend's best improvisational musical expression. The Orleans became a psychoacoustic lab experiment, and the scientists came out swinging for the fences. This show a) reminded me why I care about live music and b) beat me down for needing to be reminded. The set the next day was 60%, whereas this show was 120% (that's right, twice as good). ETC.!

(everything else was great though (videos!). rock on)

Luthur starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 09:48AM
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VwFriend - You slay me!!! You used the word homo, sucks, and put quotation marks around raged to insinuate satire. Classic stuff! It brings back memories of 6th grade.

radarlin starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 10:19AM
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radarlin

The Mars Volta just made the entire festival for me....For all those fans who flocked away during their set they just didn't understand....and I feel bad for you....they were brilliant....my god i need more Volta now......wonderful, crazy, and did i already say brilliant?

crgeorge starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 10:21AM
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Vegoose once again took a few years off my life. Different than last year for sure but equally as rockin. Good to see Trey & Panic making a kick ass return to the form. Check out
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LGuF83Aelg4

crgeorge starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 10:21AM
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Vegoose once again took a few years off my life. Different than last year for sure but equally as rockin. Good to see Trey & Panic making a kick ass return to the form. Check out
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LGuF83Aelg4

blower starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 10:32AM
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Good stuff! Kayce you are the man! Great writing! Makes me wish I could have made it. WS MtrFkn PANIC!!!

brett397 starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 10:46AM
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brett397

I do agree that ticket sales were down... this year the Sam Boyd Stadium Bowl was completely closed and it seemed like there was still plenty of room near all the stages. (Granted I only went on Sunday). This alone shows ticket sales were way down. That is probably the reason for the poor setup, it would have costs too much money to open the stadium and with a stadium sparcely populated it would have made the festival look like a big flop.

I had a great time, but did more of Vegas than last year, so only did the Sunday fest and WSP Halloween show. The Panic shows were well worth the distance traveled.

Andrew W. starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 10:56AM
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Andrew W.

Great article... Wish I had made it... Oh, wait I was there...

Wilson75 starstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 11:01AM
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I thought that the music this year was incredible. Dcent article however I found myself in disagreement with the authors on several shows. I think the promoters did what they could to save this annual festival from failure. I think they have learned from this year and next year will be even better. HOwever this fan has had no complaints either year....such a managable festival

theivywall Thu 11/16/2006 11:32AM
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theivywall

Hey VWfiend, I bet that you're not cool cuz you said panic sucks and they don't, they're awesome, so...ya know...you probably suck...but you know...you're brains the one with the shell on it...so...sticks and stones...ya know.....
PANIC!

derreck Thu 11/16/2006 11:36AM
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derreck

I totally agree with redredwine abut the VIP situation. Complete and utter crap compared to last year and Bonnaroo. Sooo not worth $500.

What was with the "super vip" sections too? Like the couches that faced the main stage? Garbage!

This was a pure slap in the case from Superfly plain and simple. They won't be seeing any cash from me ever again because of it.

The music was great, and I had a blast, but with so many other festival options out there, why patronize a company that has lost touch with the little guy and behaves like a giant corperation?

- $.02

PattyK starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 12:03PM
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PattyK

Such a fun weekend, such a great review!

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 12:09PM
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EVILFUNK

great coverege...i feel like i could have gotten more out of the story than actually being there. jam base is good like that!

i cant imagine paying someone $500 to make me feel verry important (and thay fail???) at a festi... how about we all just go to the gen admission area of the festival and make eachother feel important like we do at FUCKING JAMBAND FESTIVALS ALL OF THE FUCKING TIME?!?! anyone ever hear Carlos Santana talk about 'the feeling you get when you are at a gratefull dead concert'- i thought that was pretty cheesey at the time he was rapping about this at his shows over the years but now i see the importance of this kind of vibe and feel like an asshole for taking it for granted when it was ripe! jam isnt dead - superfly is just holding it hostage at the G. W. Bush suite at the Luxor!

- panic or the roots???? so if i pay out the ass i gotta choose between two of my all time favs? I hope superfly lost thier asses on this event. i know - how about a superfly bail out fundraiser where the VIP ticket holders have a crack at the promoters in a dunk tank!

A+ for jambase! C- for superfly!

All Loving Liberal White Guy Thu 11/16/2006 01:22PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

by the look of fiona apple's biceps it seems like she's been pumping some iron? in the words of ron burgandy "gotta sculpt the guns".

FormulaOBX Thu 11/16/2006 01:32PM
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Fun,fun ,fun...especially late night with PHIL.Extraordinarily sweet.... Inside Sam Boyd set up sucked.......no seats....the sound mixes were way loud and overdubbed each other..Roots kicked major ass though.Thank you great fans and musicians...

sleewell starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 01:43PM
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sleewell

Tristan - thank you , so much that is exactly how i feel. that show was undescribable and the vibe was beyond great. i have never been that bewildered after a show before and i have been to many a phish, wsp and phil show. words were hard to form for at least 48 hours. even big cypress didnt compare to the feeling of that night. at one point i felt like there were so many people on the same page and grooving together, it was something i havent ever really been aware of, its hard to descibe. i honestly felt like that was one of the most perfect nights of music i will ever see, i couldnt have asked for more. i love you phil, you are my hero!!!

DJ Saturday Baxter Thu 11/16/2006 01:46PM
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DJ Saturday Baxter

panic is boring!

crgeorge starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 02:02PM
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Check this out http://youtube.com/watch?v=LGuF83Aelg4

Michael Jurick starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 02:21PM
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Michael Jurick

I feel compelled to weigh in an add a comment about the whole event. Granted I was one of the photogs on the team for this festival, I still feel that I was a fan as well. The festival's location, feel, vibe, and musical talent were pretty impressive. Sure there are lots of festivals these days, but this was a HUGE event (one of the premiere events in the country), and while SuperFly overcharged for VIP, you have to appreciate their skill in coordinating an event of this magnitude. Try not to knock them too hard - they really do try to make the experience the best it can be. I personally think ticket sales were down was because Vegas is an *EXPENSIVE* trip, and many fans that would want to go, simply couldn't afford it.

As for the Trey/Phil show, I was shooting the band that night and was pretty amazed at what I was watching. I've seen some incredible Dead shows in Oakland and ridiculous Hampton Phish shows in 97/98, and that Trey/Phil show on Saturday late night was seriously up there with those experiences. It was HUGE. Trey raised the bar and stepped into jamming with feral intensity some of the greatest Dead jams. Also, I personally thought the PLASMA set closer was one of the hottest pieces of music I've seen in the past few years. If you love jambands, this band was the quinessential jamband experience. They brought it the way you wanted it!

I hope this festival sticks around and can get better every year. The whole Vegas experience is crazy fun!

Enjoy all!

-Jurick

jvhalley star Thu 11/16/2006 04:01PM
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Trey-Phil late night was the show of the year. Show of the last 4 years, even. I can't believe it got such a lame treatment by this otherwise thorough review. Nothing since 97-99 phish has even come close to melting my face in such utter euphoria. I was nearly in tears the entire second set it felt so f*cking good to feel that good again. I almost forgot what it was like to be taken for a musical ride like that, reminded me of being 18 at the spectrum, hampton, etc. What a gift. Trey is back. I've been a hater recently, like a lot of you...To all the haters, he's back. Believe it. Better yet, go see it.

ladalmond Thu 11/16/2006 06:32PM
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Hell i left thinking the Crowes was the best ones there. I don't know everyone else was just ok. I go to these festivals thinking i will see something new but everytime just the same shit.

momomo Fri 11/17/2006 06:16AM
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thank god I won free VIP tickets because that was the worst Vip treatment I ever saw , if I had to pay for that S#^T I would be looking for a refund. Check out the McDowell Mountain Music Festival, they know how to do it right!!

Alpine97 Fri 11/17/2006 10:23AM
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HOW THE F^UCK.......do you review all of these shows and only give a set list for what was BY FAR the best show of the weekend PHIL+TREY late night at the Orleans?????????????
If I don't see an indepth, detailed review of this show on its own I have lost all respect for jambase.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously if this show doesn't get a review, that is pathetic.....one of the best shows in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
time and it doesn't get a review. Please save yourselves from shame and f*cking get it done already. I hope everyone see's this post because anyone who was at this show and anyone who heard this show on disc for that matter feels the same way I do gauranteed. Check yourself jambse!!!!!!!!

schmidt420 starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/17/2006 12:01PM
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I think the setlist is enough of a review, we can all see that the show was amazing just by looking at that, alpine97. With a list that great there is no need for a review, we all know how amazing it was already

matttroche starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/17/2006 01:21PM
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matttroche

i seriously love that phil can still put on a show that leaves people talking. really amazing. the music never stops!!!!

iamkickinit starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/17/2006 03:25PM
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iamkickinit

First off... what did everyone think of Petty's performance? Not a huge Petty fan over here, however, he is a pretty big force of the American Music scene for the past 30 years... I saw him at the Roo this year and thought he sucked, however, not sure if it was my state of mind at the time, but i thought him and the heartbreakers really rocked out. So props to Petty. Secondly, what about the Keller love from the House of Blues Friday night?! He covered Back of the Bus by G. Love, which after seeing at 10klf, may be one of my favorite performances he offers. Thirdly, anyone catch Toubab Krewe? If you've never seen them, go do it immediatly, fantastic percussion.

All in all, the only couple things i can complain about were the "no re-entry" policy. If you are gonna have no re-entry in the desert, at least have a water re-fill station, instead of paying $3 for a 20oz or $7 for a beer. And, after the shows, the atmosphere isnt very "festi-friendly". Vegas will run your wallet dry as you cannot just go and chill anywhere, you must be constantly spending money or else you'll get the boot. No parks or common Chill areas for us good people to enjoy.

Other than the expected overpriced Superfly Vendors and the stupid "no re-entry" rule, great time in vegas.

mkane Fri 11/17/2006 03:43PM
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uhhhhhh.....how about The Meters warming up the crowd before Panic's weekend stealing performance? Ok...let me give it a try.....SUPERFUNKYNASTY!

lovelivedos starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/17/2006 06:02PM
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lovelivedos

PANIC!!! they're back. Panic + Herring = Unbelievable. On the psycedelic note, the Volta are insane. can't wait for their solo tour for the craziness to begin.

adamcsu starstarstar Fri 11/17/2006 08:27PM
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adamcsu

Kayceman you never cease to amaze me. You are possibly one of the worst journalists I have ever read an article from. For God's sake, check your facts before you put them in a article. Hopefully someday you will be able to put together an article that actually says something and relays comprehensive information in an easy-to-read fashion. If you are gonna cover only a handful of bands at a festival you may as well just not even write the article. Again you have failed all of us music fans out here. Oh yeah, my friend thinks you are a doushce, too.

trini. starstarstar Sat 11/18/2006 04:18PM
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trini.

Humm? I didn't find Phil/Trey late night to be all that great. What I was waiting for from Phil/Trey happenend on Sunday.

Soulfulprism starstar Sat 11/18/2006 08:30PM
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i agree with some that this article was not all that well written, and completely missed an opportunity to cover an absolutely epic show (phil and trey late-night) in the detail in deserves

the sunday phil&trey set (festival set) was not very good despite the fact that some good songs were chosen, the band's timing was off and the vocals were struggling most of the time ( esp. row jimmy)

the late-night show was the best effort for phil since '01 (see 4-20-01), a special, special night for mind-melting music

the only reason i gave this story 2 stars instead of 1 is that i thought some of the pictures were pretty cool

Hotchkiss Sat 11/18/2006 09:18PM
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Hotchkiss


hey adamcsu, let's see some of you wonderfull journalism.

cocheese Mon 11/20/2006 08:37AM
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cocheese

did anyone that went to vegoose see all the bands that played? caught every show in every venue on each nite? i seriously doubt it, so why do ya'll bitch at the kayceman for only reporting on those show he saw? he's only man, he's good but nobody's that good.

blower starstarstarstar Mon 11/20/2006 03:09PM
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I was going at it with Sleewell on the other Vegoose thread and have since listened to the late night Phil and Trey. I will concede that it is much better than the next night, which was bad. It was a good show. Maybe even epic from a nostalgia perpective. By all acounts it sounds like the energy was great and the setlist was really hot. I wish I could have gone. Mountains of the moon was exceptional.

However, neither Trey nor Phil can sing well enough to bring this show to what I would consider an epic concert nor even a mediocre show with Jerry at the helm. Jerry's vocals stand on thier own merits. Hate me for being a Deadhead I don't care, but it is hard to listen to Trey and Phil harmonize after years of Jerry! I would rather hear Bobby sing Jerry tunes (he does quite well actually)with Rat Dog. How about letting Fishman on stage to sing? His voice is much more professionally trained than Trey.

It is good to hear them come together for the sake of nostalgia never-the-less. There is a diffence between focused improvisation and space. I guess I did not hear anything musically to raise this show to the level of an epic Dead or Phish show except the setlist on paper and the steller musician lineup.





j-bizzle starstarstarstarstar Mon 11/20/2006 05:55PM
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j-bizzle

hey adamcsu - hope that was a joke because if it wasn't you are quite possibly the most ignorant and idiotic person on this thread (right up there with VWFiend).
kayce - keep on rockin!

gifthorse76 starstarstarstar Wed 11/22/2006 06:00AM
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Wow dude that was a little harsh on Kayce. I’m a journalist and the piece he did on Trey recently was totally professional with just the right amount of insight to make it interesting. I think an interesting angle on this Vegoose is the fact that ticket sales were lower despite the presence of bands that (generally speaking) sell more albums on the pop market. It seems top forty bands are about as good at selling concert tickets as jam bands are at selling albums. MMW and Maceo would have been worth it in and of its self. I saw the aforementioned fest in Maryland a few years ago this is still talked about in high regard on the MMW website. Plus Praxis and the late night smorgasbord sound like it was great. Wish I’d been there, but some of the radio bands would have made stage choices really easy for me.

csperry14 Wed 11/22/2006 01:52PM
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Here is the only issue I have... The Mars Volta! I love them they are amazingly talented but I feel they can't get it done live. I have seen them several times and I think they have horrible chemistry. NO DOUBT their talent but having an octet it is a real challenge. They are not all the hype made up to be, I'd much rather see someone like Bill and Mickey jam out with over decades of chemistry.

Hotchkiss Wed 11/22/2006 06:13PM
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Hotchkiss


i hear you csperry14.

i love the mars volta, dearly. i was a huge fan of at the drive in and was heart broken when they broke up. but after the Tremulant EP i was over ATDI's break up.

the mars volta had the enrgy and aggresion of at the drive in, the freakyness of electric miles, the Psychedelia of floyd and still kept the jagged angular fugazi spazz attack on guitar.

but as of this past year they have been hyped tremendously. this past year also saw a dip in the live sound.
ever since jeremy passed thier live sound lost something. then jon left, and i feel he was the backbone of thier live sound.

so needless to say it's hard for me to accept the fact that thier vegoose was not so good. actually bad in my opinion.

zusman1400 starstarstar Mon 11/27/2006 01:05PM
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I am a huge fan of string cheese and was disappointed there was nothing written about their performances. The pictures of the late night are cool and that tells quite a story in itself. We were in the Jungle baby!! Also the festival set with Keller was amazing. Opening the show with burning down the house into once in a lifetime. I definitly felt the once in a lifetime vibe and with the recent announcement, who knows? Where was the review of the Rhytem Devils show? The most anticipated show of the weekend for me didn't dissappoint. That band needs to go full time touring. Vegoooooooooooooosse!!!!! Great festival hope it continues.

crgeorge starstarstarstar Wed 11/29/2006 08:30AM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=LGuF83Aelg4

data starstarstar Wed 11/29/2006 12:11PM
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The only reason I don't go is I know it would end up costing too much. Room, ticket, late shows, gambling, ect. Stick with Bonnaroo. Agree Superfly is becoming like a heartless corperation. Remember the little guy and stop selling Budweiser. Keep on truckin' Phil.

scottd17 starstarstarstar Mon 12/4/2006 06:03PM
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Okay I know that no one else out there probably agrees with me but I think that the Sound Tribe Sector 9 show was the highlight of the weekend. I decided to STS9 after being disapointed over the last year and a half with trey. But seriously one of the best bands out there right now, you should check them out if you haven't seen them yet.