THE DISCO BISCUITS: HOME AGAIN

Listen to The Disco Biscuits' "CATERPILLAR" off The Wind at Four to Fly

By Chris Clark


The Disco Biscuits
Over the last decade, few bands have achieved the prolific notoriety and underground success of The Disco Biscuits. Philadelphia's pioneering electronic quartet ascended from the University of Pennsylvania party scene and into the national spotlight with their trademark trance-fusion sound that paired a DJ-like approach with a true rock n' roll foundation. Bisco, as they have come to be known, signified a new dawn in the jamband world - a day where it was no longer strictly about wandering guitar forays and twirl dancing. They offered something different in the ever-crowded jam world, something with a bit more bite. Finally, a band had come along that could bring some grittiness, darkness, and attitude - that East Coast flavor - to a scene forever filled with happy hippies.

But life for The Disco Biscuits has not been all euphoric pills and brownies.

After bassist Marc Brownstein left the band on January 11th, 2000, because of ongoing personal disputes within the band while the remaining Triscuits attempted to push forward, the situation looked grim for the group that was supposed to change the face of the jam world. But there was still light at the end of the tunnel. It was six months later that the group would reunite at State College, Pennsylvania's Crowbar. There, guitarist Jon "Barber" Gutwillig pronounced that they "just wouldn't be The Disco Biscuits without one Mr. Marc Brownstein," and just like that, Bisco was back.


Sam Altman :: Camp Bisco IV
As a result of all the tension and struggle, a copious amount of new material ("Home Again," "Triumph," and "Kamaole Sands," among others) and fresh vigor arose. The next two years would bring a healthy dose of touring, highlighted by several remarkable late-night festival performances (Adirondack Fest, Haymaker, and All Good, to name a few), two stellar New Year's runs (especially 2002's The History of The Disco Biscuits), and a couple albums - most notably 2002's Senor Boombox. This studio effort solidified the Biscuits as a premier player in the jam world, earning them "Best Studio Record of 2002" by Relix and one of Guitar Player's "10 Best Jam Band Records of All Time."

After concluding 2003 with a string of stellar shows that sold over 12,000 tickets, capped by a sold-out New Year's Eve performance at New York's famed Hammerstein Ballroom, the band had finally reached yet another pivotal breaking point. The days of Ivy League house parties and after-hours ragers had taken a dramatic toll, and the band ultimately hit the wall. Founding member and drummer Sam Altman informed his longtime friends and band mates late in 2003 that he would be departing the band to follow a medical career, something he'd contemplated for some time. Now the band was left with a career-defining decision. Once again, there were three members left pondering what to do and where to go from there.

"I think Sammy had everything you could ever need in a drummer," says the Biscuits' guitarist Jon Gutwillig. "He had such a great work ethic."

 
I can't wait to see where we're at in a couple years. We're on a path going upwards, and we're not going to stop until we reach Madison Square Garden.

-Allen Aucoin

 

After Altman's decision became public, then came the transition period. The band would perform sporadically over the next year and a half, mainly pop-up gigs and two or three-night runs in and around the mid-Atlantic region. In May of 2005, the remaining members of the Biscuits would reach out to several dozen drummers on the scene, some usual suspects, some unknowns. Auditions soon ensued, as drummers were given ten or so Bisco songs and then were brought to Philly to demonstrate their chops. It was a grueling process that encompassed several months of sound and soul searching, and lots of playing. By the time November came along, it was decision time. With two "Drum Off" shows at The Borgata Hotel Casino and Spa in New Jersey featuring four sets with six finalists, it ended up being the last drummer to perform that would be the last one standing.


Allen Aucoin & Jon Gutwillig by Jake Krolick
That man was Allen Aucoin. After tackling some of the Biscuits' most complex and intricate material such as "Hot Air Balloon" and "Save the Robots," it seemed rather apparent Aucoin would be a proper fit. "It was very intense. I knew I had to come with it," says Aucoin.

Two weeks later, the band still hadn't made up their mind. Soon after that, Aucoin received a call from Gutwillig, who extended an invitation to join the band. "That was probably one of the greatest days of my life," he explains. "The first call from Dan [Berkowitz - tour manager] was in May. He gave me ten songs to learn. My jaw dropped, and I almost dropped the telephone. I was completely shocked. Then I came up in June and auditioned. Marc and I seemed to instantly click. I didn't hear back from them for a while, so I thought that they were just being nice and I kind of gave up on them."

Lucky for Aucoin, he didn't. Neither did the Biscuits. Since just after the Drum Off, The Disco Biscuits have become whole again and things couldn't be better.

"Life is grand, but there's lots of work to do," explains a jovial Aucoin. "I've learned probably about 90 songs, still got about 25 more to go. It keeps me busy, that's for sure. It's been a lot of fun. They're all really, really good musicians. Everything is very serious; they're all really dedicated to what they're doing."


The Disco Biscuits
So who is Allen Aucoin? Well, for starters, he's one hell of a drummer. Before the Biscuits, he manned the kits for Georgia-bred Skydog Gypsy. Even then he was admired for his style and prowess on the skins, but Skydog was a very different band. They were more inclined to stretch their material out and to delve into experimental space, primarily sticking to straight improvisation groove rock. Getting acclimated to the Bisco sound, one would figure, might be a daunting task, but for Allen, the transition has been rather smooth.

"I'd really kind of already changed my playing style before the Biscuits," says Aucoin, referring to his steady work with DJ Drizno who helped him learn electronic drumming styles, such as drum n' bass, trance, jungle, down-tempo, and dub. "Playing with the Biscuits, I've had to really focus and learn what progressive trance is all about. They've got it down to such a science. With the Biscuits I've been able to hone in a little more on what I do as a driver of the jam."

 
I went back to writing songs the way I used to write songs. Recently, a lot of my songs are about taking the songs that were in my head and putting them down, I call it 'cracking my brain.' There's a bunch of songs that the band is now learning. Turning songs into music is a laborious process. It's been interesting to see how the music changes when I'm not specifically writing for The Disco Biscuits.

-Jon Gutwillig

 
Photo by Adam George

And so the saga continues. Currently, with a couple dozen shows lined up throughout the East Coast and Midwest and many more to come, it would seem that The Disco Biscuits are back. "We're just going to do it live," says Gutwillig. "You're going to see what goes into the stew before the stew gets cooked. You're probably going to hear every song we've ever played."


Jon Gutwillig by Jake Krolick
That's rather reassuring for the Bisco faithful and for newcomers alike. Now that the band is whole again, Gutwillig has been writing a plentiful amount of quality new material, something that hasn't happened in some time. Not just new material, but songs that are placing the Biscuits back on the progressive track. After a couple years of stagnation, it's time for the evolution to rise again.

"I went back to writing songs the way I used to write songs. Recently, a lot of my songs are about taking the songs that were in my head and putting them down, I call it 'cracking my brain.' There's a bunch of songs that the band is now learning. Turning songs into music is a laborious process," says Gutwillig. "It's been interesting to see how the music changes when I'm not specifically writing for The Disco Biscuits."

Gutwillig will be the key to the band's future success. With his song writing back on track and his guitar playing as proficient and impressive as ever, Bisco once again has a true leader. After the years of excess, infighting, and setbacks, it seems as though Philadelphia's finest are poised and prepared to finally live up to their potential.


The Disco Biscuits
"There hasn't been a Disco Biscuits to constructively write for. I really forgot how much fun the job was. The guys in the band are such players. I realized that there were so many things I didn't know how to do. After taking a break, now I know what I can do, but I'm also getting and processing these ideas that I wouldn't normally think of," admits Gutwillig.

This summer will serve as the proving and testing grounds for the new and improved Disco Biscuits. After spending March through early May touring the eastern half of the country, releasing their new double-live album The Wind at Four to Fly April 18th (through SCI Fidelity), the band will regroup just in time for festival season. With special late-night slots at Wakarusa, High Sierra, All Good, and Summer Camp already announced, and with plans to play around 100 shows in 2006, this may be the year of the resurgence of Bisco.

Aucoin admits, "I can't wait to see where we're at in a couple years. We're on a path going upwards, and we're not going to stop until we reach Madison Square Garden."

Perhaps Barber sums it up best. "My manager thinks we're going to be the best band in the world, but I don't care about that. Hopefully we'll be artistically meaningful; hopefully we'll all be alive and healthy and make some music that is meaningful to people. We have been the Saturday night party band. I also want to be the Sunday early afternoon philosophical band."

Check out The Disco Biscuits performing "Basis for a Day" at All Good.

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mmmnuggets starstarstar Thu 3/9/2006 05:11PM
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Niceness I've loved these guys for years now! can't wait for all the upcoming shows! See you there
DreadDave (original)

WyoBisco starstarstarstarstar Thu 3/9/2006 06:20PM
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best band ever imo. hasty remarks, i'm aware, but these guys changed everything. the future is so, incredibly bright. disco biscuits 4 life 4 me

Lucid_Interval starstarstarstarstar Thu 3/9/2006 09:04PM
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The original rock band gone techno, these guys arent legends yet but they will be... I love Bisco...

phishman131 starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 07:07AM
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bisco is nasty the only way to put i saw allen at the borgota and just knew it was soemthing specail for the kids. these guys continue to reach new peaks and musicans and continue to grow.bisco 4 life is for sure

moe2 Fri 3/10/2006 07:48AM
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cant wait till the 420 run, its about time they break out sammys floes and onamae wa.

bucketg15 starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 08:12AM
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Been my favorite band for four years, but I haven't gotten to see them since October 2002. Can't wait until the Atlanta-Athens 3 night run. I can definitely see them exploding in 2006, but I think it'll take a year to reestablish themselves. Are they the band to fill the Phish void? No, they're too different for that, which is great. They are THE band to propel the jam scene forward and open up the door for more trance-infused jam bands.

pheelalrights starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 08:56AM
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pheelalrights

When is the west coast going to get some BISCO? How about a Particle - BISCO transfusion tour?

bz starstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 11:45AM
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I love the Biscuits for their musicianship, dynamics and segues. I am thrilled that they will be touring again. It will be easier on the body if more of their shows end, rather than commence, at 2am. Best of luck to Sammy!

dedhed6111 starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 12:02PM
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dedhed6111

great article

Albdee420 starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 01:00PM
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Great read!

JMUWildChild starstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 02:06PM
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"We have been the Saturday night party band. I also want to be the Sunday early afternoon philosophical band."

You already are for me!!
8/16/03 day set Trancemission- amazing.

skunk19 starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 02:09PM
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Most original band (def. my fav.) in the scene IMO, summer fests beware!

jerryil starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 04:18PM
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jerryil

Loose the ego guys

darksideofoz Fri 3/10/2006 04:34PM
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i really like these guy's music, and i am half way through listening to the new year's run - pretty good.

BUT, you would think after so many years of performing the vocals would get better. to me, that is the only thing keeping them back from being one of my favorites (and a lot of other people too, i have found). oh well, at least keep the mind bending instrumentation going!!!

DancinDays72 starstarstarstar Fri 3/10/2006 08:33PM
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i can only say one thing: with the disco biscuits on the scene(once again) this summer is gonna be fun!

BiscuitBum starstarstarstarstar Sat 3/11/2006 12:27AM
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BiscuitBum

I've seen the whole transformation. From sonar lounge 2 NYE run and everything in between(Camp Bisco!)and they are definatly gettin nastier every time i see them. Pissed I'm not in Florida but NC shows right around the block. gONNA BE all types of nastyness. And Its gonna be nice gettin new material and a new cd.

SuperDee Sat 3/11/2006 10:45AM
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SuperDee

What is a rock band without some ego? If you don't believe you are the best band in the world, why should we? 2006 is the year of the huge Bisco Reprise. Bring it!

tomjsci starstarstarstar Sat 3/11/2006 11:29AM
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I've heard this "best band in the world" nonsense before in an issue of Relix and I just don't know if it adds up. I've gotten down to their music at quite a few shows and loved it, but these "best band in the world" declarations are a bit off. I'll just let STS9 ease into that role.

jerryil star Sat 3/11/2006 06:45PM
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jerryil

Best Band in the World? Let's not forget that all Pink Floyd members are still in this world!

MorphDusseldorf2 starstarstarstarstar Sat 3/11/2006 07:32PM
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"Lose the ego.."

Listen to 10-28-99 or 9-1-01 and you will see why this band has an ego, simply, no one can touch them when they are on, they make any other band in this genre look outdated and sickly, jambands outside philly copy their style i.e. moe., lets hope they can get back to where they were....
I've heard this "best band in the world" nonsense before in an issue of Relix and I just don't know if it adds up. I've gotten down to their music at quite a few shows and loved it, but these "best band in the world" declarations are a bit off. I'll just let STS9 ease into that role."

Just one problem, their "guitarist" is repetitive and boring, don't know how he has been over the last year but I remember him not being able to play over cord changes unless its composed, he would just keep playin the same god damn riff... STS9 is the biscuits w/out direction and balls! Take your heady crystals and stop posting retarded pre-teen california hippie wanna be gibberish!!

olichase starstarstarstarstar Sat 3/11/2006 08:12PM
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best band ever

Dicky79 starstarstar Sun 3/12/2006 10:53AM
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it's good to see these guys back. hopefully they either learn how to sing or stop singing completely, then maybe, just maybe they'll get to play the THEATER at MSG. they really do have this ego B.S in high gear though, there manager was talking about how by next summer they will be doing TWO nights at red rocks. i guess it's good to have goals, but in college they teach us to make sure those goals are somewhat attainable.

jerryil starstarstarstarstar Sun 3/12/2006 03:06PM
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jerryil

Best band in the world? Worst vocals in the universe!

Kuj starstarstarstarstar Sun 3/12/2006 04:18PM
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Great article in Bisco. If Benji doesn't write, all the bisco articles are by people who do not understand teh biscuits. You did a great job and behalf of old school hardcore bisco fans THANKS! ANd to all you kiddies look out because it is on now.

ilovebiscuits starstarstarstarstar Sun 3/12/2006 10:33PM
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great article, cant wait for the run down south itl be a nasty trip with lots of fun. Bisco has nowhere to go but up
Bisco 4 life
A-Ron

dannymo star Mon 3/13/2006 08:57AM
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legend in your own mind!! average at best

jammer8 starstarstarstarstar Mon 3/13/2006 10:56AM
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What a great and informative story! I must admit to being a new fan, but the biscuits are at the top of my list when it comes to favorite bands and I see them moving to bigger and better things. Especially after this new disc comes out... be prepared!

cire starstarstarstarstar Mon 3/13/2006 10:59AM
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"average at best" apparently you have never experienced a Biscuits show. On their WORST night these guys are average. Go to archive.org and stream ANY show these guys have played this year and you will see they are anything but average. This is definately the year of the Biscuits! STS9 in the same sentence with the Biscuits? You must be outta your mind!

Great article cant wait for the midwest runs & Summer Camp.

dedhed6111 Mon 3/13/2006 11:58AM
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dedhed6111

leave it to the guy with the name "morphdusseldorf" to actually, ballsily talk trash about Hunter Brown's guitar playing when the king of repetitiveness John Gutwillig is so obviously his absolute fave. I thought we had all been over this before. Now I love the biscuits, and i've been villified for trashing barber before, but please understand I respect the man's musicianship and songwriting. THe man flubs all his own lines, lyrical and otherwise. There is no commitment to precision with Gutwillig's guitar or his vocals, it is the weak link in the biscuits sound, now that the drumming has been upped a million notches. some will say, "the biscuits are supposed to sound like that" Like what? LIke they don't practice and don't care about putting on a good show? Listen to what you're talking about man, Hunter Brown is a John Zorn worshiper, while gutwillig just repeats cheesy phish lines over and over and over and over. but then I guess we'll be talking about this over and over and over and over. Maybe if there was less repetitiveness and more commitment to excellence the band would be able to get past crappy little philly clubs for 7/8 of the year.

Lord-K. star Mon 3/13/2006 02:25PM
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Lord-K.

2 Shows Don't validate and ego......putting these guys on pedestals before they have proven anything is sure enough the path to failure......build up the hype a bit more so all the new heads can be dissappointed....

jvhalley starstarstarstarstar Mon 3/13/2006 02:41PM
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Bring the Biscuits West, for God's Sake. Bring the Bisco WEST. I moved out here 3 years ago and they still haven't played in the Northwest. I repeat bring it west! I think it would do these wookie kids a lot of good to have the shit scared out of 'em and Bisco can do the job. STS9 is a lot of things, but I ain't never heard someone call them nasty, and rightfully so. They're like the Disney version of the Biscuits, in my book. Yup, I've seen 9 a bunch of times and everytime I go see them, I know I'm really just trying to fill the gap that Bisco left in my musical heart when I moved West and they flaked out and forgot to tour the country for 3 years. 9 is OK. They hit every safe note they play. They play their laptops exceptionally well. They stay between the lines and deserve recognition for their very accurate and many times inspired playing. They record well. Their shows can be fun. I have a good time despite the weird christian cultish vibe I get from the scene they attract. Only real problem I have? My face remains completely intact everytime I see 9. There is very low risk going on...

Bisco, on the other hand, on their good nights, (I submit the NYE run '02 as one of many many examples), has melted me into as much a pool of goo as any other band I've ever seen. Remember that feeling you got before a phish show where you had no clue what they were gonna play but you knew that there was every bit of potential for them to either absolutely destroy you in a life changing way, or play the lamest setlist ever and still find a way to flub it? 9 ain't got that shit for me, but the Bisciuts do. The Biscuits screw up more, for sure (NYE '03 in NYC was horrible!), absolutely, but its high risk, high return, folks. They toe the line every night, sometimes for the better, sometimes not. Me, personally, I'd rather go to a show with more potential for face meltage and take the flops in stride than go to a show where I know whats gonna happen. And the vocals...Hey man, I hear you. The vocals can suck. For that reason, yeah I'll admit they'll never apporach the Dead or even Phish when it comes to vocals. But dude, have you listened to them play? The music, baby. It'll melt ya.

And "dedhed", when have the Biscuits played a "crappy little Philly club" recently? Define crappy little Philly Club for me, would you? The Electric Factory? The Tower? Surely you're joking.

Anyway, enough from me. I say Go big or don't go.

See you all at High Sierra for "the worst vocals in the universe". And hopefully for two nights at Red Rocks next summer.

My 2 cents.

Bring Bisco WEST!

Rebacreates starstar Mon 3/13/2006 04:30PM
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Do these guys really have a strong following or do people just check them out when they happen to be in their town? I mean, honestly, it seems like theyre just really good at promoting themselves. I mean every article i read on jambase has this dude "marc brownsteins" opinion pop up out of no where as if he were someone important. I dont know, maybe its just me, but the disco biscuits might as well be called "half ass umphreys biscuit". HA HAHAHA oh man, thats funny...

sabaron starstarstarstarstar Mon 3/13/2006 06:12PM
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screw all the vocals crap....you ever have your face melted by vocals, i dont think so. STS9 is fine but you wont get worked over till your been to a biscuits show!

Alex.Anastas star Mon 3/13/2006 11:39PM
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Alex.Anastas

The Biscuts should have folded when they could, as their music is weak, "Mindless Dribble" (song says it all). They following is shady as anybody's, kids doing mad drugs, wearing sideways hats, slinging death, strapped with weapons, and treating their ladies like dog-poo. Get with it, "yo"!?!?!

shainhouse starstarstarstarstar Tue 3/14/2006 12:13PM
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Chris,

Good job buddy. You work always amazes me and I'm glad we've grown together. I learned a lot about the Biscuits with the story, and I'm guessing that was your intention, so bravo. I wish people wouldn't chime in about whether they like or dislike the band just to have their 'internet voices' heard and just focus on whether the story did its job. I've always wondered why readers feel the need to perjoratively write about a band they dislike, just for the sake of lambasting them... Regardless, good work again mate and I'm looking forward to meeting up again.

-Shain

myjamaicangrl starstarstarstar Tue 3/14/2006 12:39PM
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i love BISCO.. when i think of them i get an instant euphoric feeling that overtakes my body. my goal in life is to marry Jon. ***Bisco is love and love is all you need***... i live in central new york and i drive down to NYC and philly and NJ just to see them for a few hours. i'm so proud of this band..
continue bringing that "east coast flava"

scj471 Tue 3/14/2006 02:14PM
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i've never really "gotten it" with these guys. even saw them once and couldn't get into it...seemed kinda silly. can anyone drop a couple shows from the archive that can stand as a proxy for the "definitive biscuits experience" so i and others can try to understand what it's all about?

Lord-K. star Tue 3/14/2006 02:25PM
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Lord-K.

Radiohead vocals easily can melt my face you may also want to check out a band called pink floyd

TNPanic Tue 3/14/2006 03:32PM
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These guys are fantastic musicians but their vocals are a slight turn off everytime i hear them. Their live shows make up for that though. see you in nashville.

goob420 starstarstarstarstar Tue 3/14/2006 07:02PM
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Great article...keep more Bisco articles coming...They have a chance to become really something special by keeping it going on the road. Yes, more west coast please, but thank you for electrifying Denver last month,( requested the hall pass day the show was announced)!!!!

The music makes me feel special every day when I walk to and from work via the bus station w/my head phones on. There is something about Bisco that I appreciate and that's the effort put forth in their shows. They don't ever let up and go strong the whole way. Thank yo very much for your music!!!

DBerko starstarstarstarstar Tue 3/14/2006 10:42PM
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This past run moved me in ways the Biscuits have not in years.

SETBREAK IS OVER

Great article

twain Wed 3/15/2006 04:50PM
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just got back from FLA...bisco is back big time. new drummer is off the chain and definatly new life. haven't played this good in a few years. fri night at club was clean and nasty, nasty. sat night festy gig was pure joy! either you don't get it, or never given it a real chance. go get some bisco.

twain Wed 3/15/2006 05:23PM
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damn..i almost forgot the conspiritor w/ some of brothers past..nasty nasty drum and bass/trance...did fearless, just mind blowing, nothing will suprise whats in store.

PApride starstarstarstar Wed 3/15/2006 06:06PM
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This article made me nervous. All of this talk about MSG, I would hate to see the biscuits move to venues of that size. I love the exclusivity of the bisco club (scene). Getting any more attention from the scene at large would just cramp our style.

2006 is the hotness

freekfreely starstarstarstar Mon 3/20/2006 12:44PM
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Florida was awesome. Allen has found his place and things are taking off in a great way. Bring that shit out west boys.

pheelingphunky star Tue 3/21/2006 08:52AM
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Band that was supposed to change the jam world my ass, "Don't stop till we get to MSG", bunch of bullshit, Th biscuits jams aren't darker or grittier than most other jam bands, not to mention they are repetitive and musically simple.

Lucid_Interval starstarstarstarstar Tue 3/21/2006 06:28PM
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People seem to forget that just because a band hasnt hooked you or grabbed your attention doesnt mean that the band is, "repetative and musically simple", "just good at promoting themselves", "the worst vocals in the universe", "half ass umphreys biscuit" or that "gutwillig just repeats cheesy phish lines over and over and over"

All of these comments are abosolutely ignorant, one sided and have no base from anything other than your own personal opinion. If this band sucked they wouldnt have press coverage or people going to their shows consistantly, and yes this band has a following and Marc Brownstein is someone important to alot of people he's the f*cking bassist(and my favorite member) of the Disco Biscuits.

"putting these guys on pedestals before they have proven anything is sure enough the path to failure"

They HAVE proven themselves. They're still here, they're not going anywhere and all this article is saying is that they're moving in an upward direction and anyone who is a fan of the Biscuits and has been listening to their shows as of late would agree. Newcomers might not get into it right away but who would expect them to? Thats not to say that the band has lost all power to captivate new listeners.

No one is asking you to bow down in reverence to the Biscuits if you dont feel like it, but when one presents ones biased opinion as fact it makes one sound ignorant judgemental.

This is a band that people love to bash and im sick of it, its childish. People need to stop looking for the perfect band and start listening to music...

kvoelkel star Tue 3/21/2006 06:40PM
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kvoelkel

All who yonder are not lost!

darksideofoz starstarstar Wed 3/22/2006 07:19AM
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anyone that takes a persons post on a message board as "fact" should have their internet rights revoked.

obviously they are all opinions (and opinions are by definition biased, so a "biased opinion" is redundant), and many people have many opinions of this band.

mine is they are very good, but very poor vocals.

and yes, i have had my face/mind melted by vocals. i don't need it from music, but it is nice.

the biscuits vocals make my spine feel like someone scratched a chalk board, and it is sometimes hard to shake that feeling and have the instruments commence melting.

dedhed6111 Wed 3/22/2006 11:21AM
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dedhed6111

'Ey there, Slick. My comments are far from one-sided. as for ignorant, well think what you may. I like the Disco Biscuits, but The Disco Biscuits started out as a damn phish cover band. sure they played some talking heads and a few of their early originals, but this band evolved from early phish culture. Adding the entire "electronica" element (I tread lightly with the word techno) made a lot of those lines and inspired lines become in a sense repetitive. I was at the time of the writing comparing John Gutwillig's stylings to those of a primarily jazz-based band, STS9. Electronic Rock and jazz-fusion, 2 completely different styles and basically comparing apples and oranges. Watch the name-calling, son.

bisco9 starstarstarstarstar Wed 3/22/2006 01:02PM
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Love 'em or hate 'em, bisco has remained tru to themselves through it all. My first experience was TLA in Philly Dec 31, 1999...WOW! Hooked for good. They have been challenging each other, the scene, and the fans for a long time...I'll take a Biscuit show anyday!

phatness starstarstarstar Thu 3/23/2006 06:25PM
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The Disco Bisciuts are moving on up and you negative comentators know it. Its alright, you guys can sit in the corner and skulk while us Bisco fans get musically sessioned into pure euphoric rapture.


Lucid_Interval starstarstarstarstar Thu 3/23/2006 10:44PM
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I wasnt talking about reading an opinion and understanding it as fact i was talking about present an opinion as fact. Yes opinions are inherently biased but that doesnt mean they should be presented as fact.I didnt call anyone names in my post. Whether or not this band "evolved from early phish culture" or not has nothing to do with their originality. Biscuits are a far cry from sounding like phish. Im not trying to stir stuff up i just dont understand the need for blatent negativity...

Lucid_Interval starstarstarstarstar Thu 3/23/2006 10:54PM
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Oh and this probably wont be posted but... dedhead scroll down and read your post where you're bashing on Gutwillig and tell me its not one sided...

insignia starstarstarstarstar Fri 3/24/2006 09:06AM
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ok ive never heard them but i cant wait. seein there shows coming up in a month and im excited. Sts9 and bisco are both great bands.

Cr4wley starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/3/2006 11:21AM
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my first biscuits show is coming up here in Birmingham, AL.

calvin you were right about the trancefusion 2 album.

my life is forever changed =]

bisco bring it!

TK starstarstar Tue 4/4/2006 01:45PM
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TK

wow, great comments. good to see lively debate. funniest part of the article was the reference to "the University of Pennsylvania party scene" ... good times over there in the ivy league ghetto! thanks for the original nughuffer, Browndad.

BiscuitBum starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/7/2006 01:02AM
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Dude Don't even read anything below this. Its all crap and hate. Go see The Disco Biscuits if they are near you. Or do what I'm gonna do and travel around the country and watch them. But Bottom line Biscuits are nasty.

dedhed6111 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/7/2006 10:53AM
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dedhed6111

all crap and hate. hmm. what i see is a free exchange of ideas, something america is all about. I'm glad that somebody like me who enjoys both sts9 and the biscuits can get online and have a rational discussion with people like you, biscuitbum, who have such a narrow opinion of music. and lucid, what I said cannot be one-sided because the person making the statement appreciates and likes both bands he was discussing, but i'm also objective enough to understand that HUNTER BROWN IS A BETTER GUITAR PLAYER THAN JOHN GUTWILLIG, regardless of style or personal opinion

hotpoop starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/12/2006 02:34PM
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hotpoop

Great Discussion. I have to admit, at my first Biscuits show(Trocadero-98), I couldn't stand them. After a short time of listening to their live shows, and by my next show, they had really grown on me and had quickly become ONE of my favorite bands. Since then(98), I cant even beleive how tight they have gotten and how sick the jams are now. Yeah, the vocals can be weak sometimes, but sometimes their really strong too,(ie,42,Spacebird) One would be hard pressed to dispute that the jams aren't insane, especially after seeing the Biscuits live.

As far as comparing bands, whats the point? I dig them all for different reasons. Biscuits, New Deal, STS9, Lotus, Pnuma Trio, Signal Path, B/R, et al. They all have something a little different, but still all groove hard. I wouldn't judge any of these guys against each other any more than I would compare them to MMW, Phish or even Miles Davis. These are all different groups that can stand on their own.
When judging music, take the Duke Ellington quote(I know many other people have said this, but he was the earliest person that I know of):
"There are only two types of music. Good Music and Bad Music."
As I know from first hand experience, its better not to be too hasty when passing judgement, but if you are going to, try not to step one someone else's taste. People are very passionate about music, especially in the jam scene, and feathers have a tendency to get ruffled. Be Good Family.

ConciousCollaboration starstarstar Sat 4/15/2006 09:46AM
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Bisco is straight just don't really think they have the talent and dedication to do all that they're high and mighty minds think right now.
Im sure some sector 9 fans have heard big egos performed by them now... maybe that ties into some of this somehow

jammer8 starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/17/2006 03:26PM
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The new release is a very good repesentation of what the boys can bring. My hommie just got back from VT and bought TWAFTF, i'm really diggin' it! It comes out tomorrow for everyone's listening pleasure.WAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matis starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/19/2006 10:53AM
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Matis

Great to have these guys back in full swing. Pioneers of their sound - always a high time. They'll tear it up right at High Sierra this year, what a sick sick festival. These guys will no doubt highlight my trip, couldn't be more stoked. Come to Quincy and check this festival out, with Disco in the lineup, and the other tight acts and general atmosphere of the place, it's all set up to be one of the best weekends of the summer. Swing by the vegas theme camp and throw some dice. See you there.

bBlack starstarstarstar Thu 4/20/2006 05:58AM
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Love the Bisco sound. It is unique and high energy. I do have a problem with their vocals (only glaring weakness IMO). However, I would much rather hear them attempt to sing than not sing at all. It creates a better atmosphere with the fans. Gutwillig is the shit, and one of the best in the scene when he is on. Can't wait to see these guys in B'ham, its seems like its been about 10 years since they last came around.

srgroovealot star Tue 4/25/2006 12:39AM
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The day someone steals all the microphones within 100 miles of anywhere the disco biscuits play will be the day i get off at a bisco show

drcool010 starstarstarstarstar Tue 5/16/2006 08:07PM
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Anyone who hasnt been to a Bisco show SHOULD NOT POST there opinions on this band. Truly one cannot not go to even an average biscuits show and than try to compare the experience to STS9! Just like our parents used to drop acid and go to dead shows, our generation will be remembered as taking exctacy and going to Bisco shows. 2006 is just the begining for this band folks. They will be bigger than Phish.