The Unstoppable Ted Nugent

By: Dennis Cook

"I am a black Jew at a Nazi-Klan rally. Let's get it on."

Ted Nugent
This is how Ted Nugent tells me he plans to open his upcoming guide to life, Ted, White & Blue: The Nugent Manifesto. He's not shy about sharing his opinions and he has a lot of them. A working musician since the early '60s, Nugent has blossomed into a blue collar cottage industry, the six-gun version of Jimmy Buffett, with television shows, books, bow hunting excursions and, of course, a huge catalog of over 30 albums that have sold more than 35 million copies worldwide. He'll be the first one to tell you he's a phenomenon, and it's kind of hard to argue with him. But, in recent years, Nugent has become a lightning rod for conservative hot button issues, where he's always happy to weigh in.

"The Klan and the Nazis suck, and I am their enemy and I'm gonna fuck 'em up. I'm not obeying your laws and I'm not getting on my knees while you burn a cross on my lawn. I'm gonna shoot you fuckin' dead. I'm a Black Jew at a Nazi-Klan rally and I can't be contained," says Nugent. "There's a line drawn in the sand, and in [Ted, White & Blue] this is how I define it ultimately: On my side is a huge mass of humanity who says we are not going to ask what our country can do for us. We are going to get up early and do what we can for our country. On the other side, you've got sniveling pimps and whores and welfare broads and people who think those are legitimate job descriptions siding with Obama and Hilary. I don't know how a mind or a soul decays to that low. I don't know how that happens."

Undeniably, one of rock's godfathers, Nugent is talented, violent, self-aggrandizing, freewheeling, distressingly patriotic and, above all, a pretty damn good time. And like many good times, he's a bit dangerous, uncomfortable to many and liable to get you slapped if you follow in his footsteps. As he'll be happy to tell you, most men aren't Ted Nugent, who runs the razor's edge between bat shit crazy and scary smart, and you're never quite sure which way he'll lean as he sprints around. Love him or hate him, he demands a reaction, pouring baking soda into our soda pop and shaking us with a wicked smile.

JamBase: You are precisely the smart ass I imagined you'd be.

Nugent: Well, I didn't invent the middle finger but I perfected the motherfucker.

JamBase: I've been a fan of your music since I was a kid. There's something so fucking primal about it.

Nugent: How can you not be? If you have a heart, a soul and a penis, well, I'm your boy.

When people say "cock rock" I think Ted Nugent.

Whoa. Now you're starting to scare me. No, I appreciate that. You love the vitality, the authenticity, the spirit, the defiance, the irreverence, the autonomy. You love the fact that I will not fucking back down. We all have that inside of us but political correctness has just about de-balled 90-percent of the population. Davy Crockett lives and I'll be glad to shoot Mexicans from the wall of the Alamo. If you don't want to shoot 'em with me, then shut the fuck up and load my gun!

Nugentian Logic

Ted Nugent from MySpace
Nugent is utterly unafraid to speak his mind. In fact, he often lets loose without a second's pause, uttering things aloud that most of us, even in our darkest moments, know to keep shuttered tight inside. To him, he's just being honest and throwing it all out there to be sorted in the light.

"The bottom line is not just speaking one's mind but before the mouth opens the brain feels a duty to sponge information, evidence and facts, and always put them through the logic meter, based on good will and decency" offers Nugent. "So, when I do speak my mind it's not just a knee-jerk reaction but a well executed delivery of genuine, sincere research so I know what the hell I'm talking about. Big difference, you know? I'm 60-years-old and I don't have many hunches anymore. I very rarely speak my opinion. I'd rather hear my observations of irrefutable occurrences, facts and, again, that dangerous 'L' word – logic. I dare to genuflect at the altar of logic, and someone who tries to pry my knee from the ground is gonna get a crowbar upside the head."

"Logic serves everybody in a positive way. It's the abandonment of logic that's created these squawking critics of me. God sent Michael Moore to find those who oppose me," Nugent continues. "All this energy, all this confidence, all this humility – because I'm humbled by logic – and all the music I've created, even the pre-recorded stuff from '62/'63 jamming with The Lords [Nugent's first band], it was about defiance. I understood what Howlin' Wolf and Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry were singing about. I discovered it was about defiance and a celebration of life, and my music and my politics are one and the same. And what is politics other than an individual's pursuit of happiness and demanding from our employees, i.e. elected officials, that they exercise good will, decency and logic in their policymaking? My hand can stroke a puppy and change a diaper, but it can also turn into a fist and knock the shit out of you. It's the same thing, just depending on what the moment's motivation might be."

Rock 'n' roll is often viewed as a numbskull thing, the work of people too dumb for higher pursuits. And while the man who gave us "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang" might seem to be the last dude you'd look to for lofty, cogent advice, there's philosophical underpinnings to his pummeling musical assault that go beyond pussy, fighting and carousing. Moreover, step back from the more consciously salacious outbursts and it's hard to dismiss the value of at least some of what he suggests.

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On my side is a huge mass of humanity who says we are not going to ask what our country can do for us. We are going to get up early and do what we can for our country. On the other side, you've got sniveling pimps and whores and welfare broads and people who think those are legitimate job descriptions siding with Obama and Hilary.

-Ted Nugent

 

"I have a very cute statement and that is I never went to college 'cause I was too busy learning shit. What I've learned is quality of life comes from attentiveness, discipline, heart and soul and consciousness, conscientiousness, decision making and choices based on how things affect others more than yourself," says Nugent. "No matter what anyone says, I have always been – and I force myself to continue to be, in ever increasing increments – an asset to everyone. You cannot find a hurt soul in my vapor trail. I'm not perfect and there's been some bumps in the road, but I will give up everything to make it better for someone else [pauses], unless that person is a robber, a thief or a rapist. I will go out of my way and forfeit a moment of happiness or even the pursuit of my happiness for another's. If some journalist somewhere would be honest enough to admit that it would be a fascinating story. I haven't sacrificed any fun. I'm happy. I rock my balls off six months of the year. There's no fault in that. My family is healthy and educated, independent, productive and kind AND I still rock my balls into a firestorm every night! I don't know what else I can do."

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Again, step back from the racially charged remarks, the bow hunting, the bare-chested he-man-nedness and Nugent's main crime is a big mouth – just words, and words that one could easily tune out if they only choose to. He is an erectile symbol of the First Amendment, and, by gum, he's gonna exercise his rights and his jaw muscles as often as he can. It's hard to imagine anyone agreeing with everything he says but he says so much there's a shot at common ground with a pretty big range of folks. Sure, some of what he comes out with should give one pause but despite his voluminous ego and alpha male disposition, Nugent is still just one guy. He doesn't set policy or lead a cult or anything of the sort. He's a rock musician, a 40-plus-year survivor in an industry built on youth and contemporary currency. And he's often most entertaining when one disagrees with him because it tests our own beliefs, our own core ideals, and even if they don't line up with his we get a nice view of our own inner temperature just being around him.

JamBase: People get very put out by words, by ideas that don't agree with their own. They take personal affront at something you said rather than understanding freedom of speech means saying things we don't see eye-to-eye on. Why not listen to something or someone else instead of getting your panties in a knot?

Nugent: Bingo! And don't get upset! Smile, shake my hand and go have a nice day. I never force anyone to listen to me. Let's get to the tip of the culture war spear, since I've been riding it for 42 years, shall we? And that is my life of guns. I have machine guns. I shoot them, and I like to carry guns. I've never said anybody else has to! I've never said you have to defend yourself. I think it's sinful to NOT defend yourself, but I'd never force anyone to own, carry, shoot or even look at a gun. But my critics attempt to ban my ownership of them! I'm not telling anyone they need to eat moose. I never told anybody to shoot a deer, to eat a deer, but people want to tell me I'M NOT ALLOWED TO!!!

Don't ever tell anyone they can't do something – unless it's raping or killing someone or something like that. If you want tofu I'll fucking get you some tofu! I don't give a shit. If you can't defend yourself and a rapist has you in a chokehold I'll shoot the motherfucker for you. That's the big difference between the Left and the Right; the Left dictates theology, I don't. You don't have to defend yourself. You don't have to educate yourself or be the best that you can be but don't send me the bill for your shortcomings.

JamBase: There is a profound sense of timidity about many, many people. Hell, I'm often too big a chicken to speak my mind even when I know I should. I usually want to kick my own ass at those moments. I think we've been indoctrinated to have this sort of ingrained timidity these days.

Nugent: We were just talking about that last night. A big, fat Hispanic kid came up to me at the sushi restaurant we were at and said, "Hey, Uncle Ted, I love the way you stand up for what you believe in. I sure wish I could say stuff like that." I'm telling you, Dennis, if I had a nickel for every time someone stopped me at a restaurant, gas station, hotel, a church or a school to tell me that [trails off in disgust]. I take 'em by the scruff of the neck and yell, "You can! Nay, you MUST! You WILL! Why the fuck not!?!"

What I always come back to with you is the music. The other stuff, politics, whatever, is around the edges of that gutbucket sound you make.

Every night in concert I guarantee you the celebration will continue. There are more laughing faces in my concerts than anywhere! I'll go up against Richard Pryor's comedy routines! We make people feel alive. They feel the energy and they feel the passion and the believability factor is contagious. We believe in this music! And that's why people come back, because music is the universal communication. And when you put as much heart and soul into it as we do every night you can't go wrong. My guitar will clench your soul.

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I didn't invent the middle finger but I perfected the motherfucker.

-Ted Nugent

 

A Little Chat About Music

JamBase: 1978's Double Live Gonzo is one of THE great live albums.

Nugent: You won't get any argument from me.

JamBase: It's so bold and it stands on its own two legs. It's so in-your-face, right from the cover.

Ted Nugent
Nugent: Well, I provided the in-your-face but Cliff Davies on drums, Rob Grange on bass and definitely David St. Holmes on guitar and vocals were the electricity. They were the virtuosos that provided the fist to my music. They, like all the musicians I've been incalculably fortunate enough to work with, were world class, top one-percent EVER of rhythm sections any guitarist could be lucky enough to play with. That's why my music is unstoppable, because of the musicians that came up with me.

JamBase: I love the heaviness of your music. Maybe only AC/DC has been so consistently hard all the time.

Nugent: I capitalize on the pummel factor of the rhythm section, on what Bo Diddley created [breaks into Diddley's iconic beat]. You want to get naked around the campfire and start throwing spears at people, which, by the way, I do [laughs]. Tonight in Bakersfield I'm sure someone will get shafted. That is the original unification of a musical rhythm. It's ubiquitous in all our favorite music. Maybe the guys in Metallica couldn't express it the way I just did but they musically articulate it like champions. Music from AC/DC to the Stones and Beatles to The Yardbirds and Aerosmith, Cheap Trick and Sammy Hagar, all our favorite bands, that is the rhythm section funk brother guidance that we all pay homage to in our music. I do it better than all of them because I muff the strings with my right hand, and there's a combination of flagrant ringing and variations of muffing to my playing personified by the "Stranglehold" intro or the "Love Grenade" intro or throughout "Motor City Madhouse." The rwrrr, rwrrr is as blaring as God has ever allowed.

You do have fantastic intros to most of your songs. Like AC/DC, before the first lyric it's a sound that makes your dick hard.

I would hope so. That's why the purple nerve endings are exposed. Pull 'er back and let 'er go! I think what AC/DC personifies is their origins in Howlin' Wolf and Lightnin' Hopkins and Mose Allison, and then electrified supremely by Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry, and then carried on through experimentation by a bunch of Caucasian idiots like me and Angus Young. We discovered that power chords can be articulated into passages not unlike Chuck but with entire chords instead of single notes. The bottom line is nothing is sacred except the rhythm.

Ted Nugent
I gotta tell you, a band that's basically politically retarded, Green Day, also continue that pounding, pummeling authenticity. They are three of the finest musicians that can go shoulder-to-shoulder with the greatest. Their music has a tribal, primal grind to it that you can close your eyes to and pretend they aren't little white brats. As much as I laugh at the naivety of their politics, their cluelessness, their music is just robust and awesome. I'm just genuinely moved by it. The same thing, too, with the [Red Hot] Chili Peppers. They are world class virtuosos that combine the grind and the rhythm in a way I really admire.

JamBase: What is it about Detroit? Why do so many tough, enduring rock bands come from there? The Stooges, MC5, Bob Seger, Kid Rock, Grand Funk Railroad...

...Jack White, even Eminem, The Romantics. There is an authority that comes from Detroit that I'm going to rest solidly in the hands of Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels. They showed us how and I wish more people would give them credit. If you listen to "Jenny Take A Ride," "Shake A Tail Feather" or "Good Golly, Miss Molly," my God, man! They defined everything from then to now about what rock 'n' roll is supposed to be – black soulfulness, incredible tightness from dedication to practice and a work ethic, a vision conveying defiance, piss 'n' vinegar and high energy celebration without losing the grip of the black inspiration.

Firm In All Regards

"My critics are the wind beneath my wings because I know that I'm doing good. I know I'm working hard and that I'm in the asset column. Everybody I know is. I don't know anybody who collects a welfare check. I've never MET anyone who collects a welfare check. I don't know anybody who expects a handout. So, I just glow. I have to stop sometimes to just adjust my fucking halo," chuckles Nugent. "I just play my music and tour and do my charity work and speaking engagements and TV shows. I just do what I do. The Michael Moores just find me. I have never gone out of my way to confront, combat or take on an issue. They find me. When they come to get me instead of running away I walk towards them."

"I don't need adulation and I don't give ANY credibility to celebrity whatsoever but there's a genuine, affectionate and very spiritual connection like I had with that fat Hispanic kid. He knows in his heart that he should say what's on his mind, that he should stand up, but he's scared to death of the repercussions. I am not, and my critics are scared to death. I said to a guy the other day who told me they have a real coyote problem in Los Angeles, I said, 'That's weird. You must have asked for it because I don't have a coyote problem where I live. The coyotes have a Ted problem!' You're supposed to be in charge, not the fucking varmints. You can take that literally or figuratively, and I do! I don't look for problems but I do the best I can and sometimes I get kicked in the teeth for it. I give the world the best I got anyway."

Ted Nugent is on the road now (dates available here) and recently released a live DVD/concert album entitled Sweden Rocks on the heels of last year's saucy studio offering, Love Grenade. The man stays busy and will probably be cooking up some caribou in your backyard soon. That is, if you invite him over to do so...

Here's the Nuge on a recent episode of Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations, where Nugent barbecues, offers freshly roasted kernels of wisdom and ammo reloads.

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mikeohiostate Tue 8/12/2008 07:05PM
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Ted Nugent should go hunting with Dick Cheney.

Cola21 Tue 8/12/2008 08:29PM
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Cola21

I've never listened to the Nuge but he scares the feces out of me.

acomma Tue 8/12/2008 08:53PM
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acomma

Ted Nugent has said some stupid shit about Jerry Garcia, most of it very negative and very far from the truth. I really wish he would keep his mouth shut because stupidity often comes from it. Gives Detroit a bad name.

acomma Tue 8/12/2008 09:08PM
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acomma

He does, however, make a great point about free speech. He just seems thirsty for attention.

moejoerisin Tue 8/12/2008 09:31PM
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moejoerisin

this guy is a joke.

Jack Straw Berry starstarstarstar Tue 8/12/2008 09:44PM
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Jack Straw Berry

I loves me some old Nuge, but Ted is just way to full of himself. Dude, haven't you learned that tree huggers get way more pussy than rifle toting rednecks? You should try being a conservationist and standing for something other than your god-given right to be a selfish American individual. Still...gotta love the abuse of that hollowbody...The world needs that, so thanks for your contribution, Ted. Long live the Great White Buffalo!!

kcjammer Tue 8/12/2008 09:55PM
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kcjammer

ted nugent is the shit!!!! you just have to love him for who he is ....the man rode a buffalo on stage!!! = AMERICAN!!!

AintNoFreedom Tue 8/12/2008 09:58PM
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AintNoFreedom

Aside from above average guitar skills... Nuge is pretty much just a blowhard douchebag.

Flat5 starstarstarstarstar Tue 8/12/2008 10:22PM
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Flat5

EXCELLENT interview though i don't imagine it was too difficult considering the subject. Can't say i agree with everything Ted Nugent says, but this is America after all. The guy can play too, but I don't think I'm about to go rock out to some Nugent any time soon. Too busy gearing up for My Morning Jacket at Red Rocks next week. I would appreciate a review on that one. Keep up the good work, Jambase!

jasmine2 Tue 8/12/2008 10:29PM
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Marcsmall Tue 8/12/2008 10:32PM
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Marcsmall

What an egotistical prick!

skunkape Tue 8/12/2008 11:30PM
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What a total tosser...

C00lmike Tue 8/12/2008 11:49PM
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C00lmike

"Jerry [Garcia] got high and Jerry's dead. I went hunting and I'm still Ted." - Ted Nugent addressing an NRA convention.

Guy's a fucking toolbox in my book.

windorascrub star Tue 8/12/2008 11:50PM
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he seems like the kind of guy to give a hot chick a BRO handshake.

snappy Wed 8/13/2008 04:57AM
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snappy

The best part of the comments for this piece is the, uh, "enlightened" and "thoughtful" things some people are posting speak to the heart of Ted's philosophy. We celebrate freedom of speech here at JamBase every day. We offer multiple options of what to read or NOT, and the choice - yes, it's a choice YOU are making - is the individual's own. Now, please, by all means, continue apace, folks...

mackadocious Wed 8/13/2008 05:49AM
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mackadocious

was Ted wrong about Jerry? Might've been in bad taste, but mostly true.

I love how he describes his fan as "fat", twice. Most of us could learn something from him in these PC times.

cameroncox Wed 8/13/2008 08:04AM
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cameroncox

Hey Ted: "Wave that flag, wave it wide and high!!!!!!!!"

kirkbrew star Wed 8/13/2008 08:09AM
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kirkbrew

"I've never said anybody else has to! I've never said you have to defend yourself. I think it's sinful to NOT defend yourself"

From what? Does he live on the set of Escape From new York or Warriors? That's the thing I don;t get about gun nuts. Thy think that everyone is out o get them.

And the bit about welfare whores etc... Unemployment/welfare makes up less than 13% of our budget while servicing debt is 8.4%!!! Entitlement programs are over 33%!!! And this chart does not include special spending on the war. People have fucked up priorities.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ef/US_budget_2007.svg/530px-US_budget_2007.svg.png&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_budget_2007.svg&h=600&w=530&sz=56&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=J7Znb88mYHvuhM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=119&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dus%2Bbudget%2Bsummary%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

MartinHalo Wed 8/13/2008 08:19AM
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MartinHalo

Hey Dennis, nice piece :)

selimsivad star Wed 8/13/2008 08:21AM
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phishr82 Wed 8/13/2008 08:23AM
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phishr82

i got roped into seeing him with Deep Purple and Skynyrd. His show is a joke. He did shoot flaming arrows across the stage, but that's really not that cool.

AdkinsJ starstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 08:44AM
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Ted Nugent is a jingoistic, pompous windbag, but the man can play. Very little of his music has a political bent to it, it just rocks. You don't have to like the man to like his music. I have many conservative friends who are too quick to dismiss awesome music (Franti, Springsteen, even the Dixie Chicks) because of the political beliefs of the artists making the music. Nugent's music rocks.

PunkJazz star Wed 8/13/2008 08:47AM
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PunkJazz

Fuck this guy!

thehurricane23 Wed 8/13/2008 09:07AM
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thehurricane23

I dont really like Nugent but he represents freedom of speech. Kids today are sissified, politically correct robots. When I yell out shit like "smoke a joint for Jesus, or lick a pussy for Buddha", I know it offends some sensitive people, but hey that's my right in America. Love it or leave it. The first amendment does not specify what beliefs you can talk about.

happydestiny starstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 09:09AM
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Are you guys bashing a rock star for having an ego?(oxymoron?) Ted has made some great music over the years and I see only a comment or two praising his music in this whole message board. I thought this site was a place to discuss music, not a place to bash on people who wouldn't fit in with your heady scene. Fighting for and openly talking about our constitutional rights are pretty damned admirable traits in my book, so keep doin' what you do ted. Nice work dennis

thehurricane23 Wed 8/13/2008 09:17AM
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thehurricane23

I guess when 70% of high school seniors dont believe in your rights of freedom of expression (that they SHOULD be limited) we should expect what we get as a people. Come to the RNC in Minneapolis and let out your frustrations/blockade some streets/acid etch some windows/fight the authorities/ good times really!

Tinshoe starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 09:21AM
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Tinshoe

Very nice article and the Bourdain video was even better as it shows rather than tells what the Nuge is all about. I have never been much a fan, that said some of the comments suggest a sort of mental tropism rather than the ability for many Jambase readers to think with open minds. For people who ostensibly pride themselves on open-mindedness, their comments belie the sincerity of their compassion and human intelligence. Mindlessly proscribing against someone who doesn't agree lock-step with one's own ideology is as fascist as it gets. Great job, people!

Broesau Wed 8/13/2008 09:29AM
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King Rhino starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 09:32AM
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LONG LIVE THE NUGE!!!

Whether or not you agree with the man's politics (And I personally don't), you have to respect his contribution to music and the fact that the man is intelligent and stands behind his beliefs 110%. DOUBLE LIVE GONZO is easily one of the Top 5 Live Rock Albums of all time if not Top 3, in my opinion. Even after 30 some years, when I hear the beginning of "Stranglehold" I still get chills. The man and his music still stand out in my mind as some of the most definitive records of my youth. And please. Ted Nugent has turned away more pussy than any tree hugger on this planet.

Broesau Wed 8/13/2008 10:02AM
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Uh, who the fuck considers "stranglehold" or "Wango Tango" to be an important contribution to music?

bulgingmeniscus Wed 8/13/2008 10:25AM
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ok, enough ted bashing lets talk about his music. most artists evolve who have such long careers. think miles,the dead, hell even the stones took some left turns. in all honesty ted's music is the same as his 1975 first album. in addition he or the interviewer gave credit to a david st. holmes. part of his success was derek st. holmes on his first couple of albums. great singer/guitarist oft overlooked. hell he even hired meatloaf on his free for all album. his lyrics/chord progressions are quite sophomoric at best and i find it quite ironic that a guy who's strongsuit is his verbal schtick had to rely on a singer on his most succesful albums

HoodooVoodoo starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 10:57AM
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This guy is a piece of shit

sunnbear Wed 8/13/2008 11:01AM
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sunnbear

It was Derek St. Holmes, not David. Ted Nugent was one of my first concert experiences. Had no idea who he was. His first album had just come out and he was the opening act for some other band who is not around anymore. The lights went down and Ted comes flying over his Marshall stack, sliding to the edge of the stage, cranking out the opening chords to Stormtroopers. I was awestruck. I had never seen anything like this in my life. In my opinion, he was amazing then. I have seen him countless times over the years and the only thing that really gets old is his constant jabbering about his politics. For this reason alone, I would never pay to see him again. Same reason I would never see U2 again. Anyway...More power to him for using his right to free speech. Oh yeah, by the way, Stranglehold is a great groove for fucking. If you don't believe me, just ask my wife!

happydestiny starstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 11:21AM
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happydestiny

Thank you hurricane, tinshoe, and sunnbear. Oh by the way the "And please. Ted Nugent has turned away more pussy than any tree hugger on this planet." comment rings more truth than anything in this thread!!! (complements King Rhino)

King Rhino starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 11:48AM
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King Rhino starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 11:50AM
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Not to mention the fact that Ted used MEATLOAF on vocals before anyone knew who that fat bastard was, as well!

fordaj starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 12:20PM
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King Rhino starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 12:24PM
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Um .... ford? Pot meet Kettle. Kettle meet Pot.

dustmybroom Wed 8/13/2008 12:28PM
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I'm going to use my freedom of speech to say that this guy is total assbag.

King Rhino starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 12:37PM
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And, dust? Ted would totally respect that. Of course, he'd then probably twist you into a balloon animal ... But he would be totally respecting you as an American while he did it.

breadloaf Wed 8/13/2008 01:11PM
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Dennis, I think you are perhaps the best JamBase writer, but this was more of a coronation for Ted than an interview. I think either your affection/nostalgia for his music or sheer intimidation got in the way of objectivity.

I consider Ted Nugent a business entity rather than a musical one, even of he can play. Same deal as Jimmy Buffet- keep the gravy train on the tracks.

breadloaf Wed 8/13/2008 01:39PM
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The more I think about it, the more the pure nostalgia angle makes sense; all of us have recordings we grew up with that evoke strong and usually pleasant memories of childhood or formative years. But "..One of the top 3 live albums ever?" Seriously? So, better, say, than Miles Davis at the Plugged Nickel, Live Dead, Old & In The Way, Allman Bros. at Fillmore East, Stones, Santana, Zappa, Phish, add another few hundred recordings here...I suppose ultimately the best live recording is the one you simply enjoy the most- to each his/her own, but 'Nuge? I dunno, man. Let's hear some favorites.

Broesau Wed 8/13/2008 02:06PM
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King Rhino,

So let me get this straight, becuase of the fact that I have enough musical taste to realize that Ted Nugent is a clown, it follows that I enjoy Maroon 5 and Britney Spears? I don't get that. On the other hand, you apparently like not only the Nuge, but Meatloaf as well. Based on that, I think it'd be more likely to find the cheesey stuff in your collection bud, not mine. And if you knew me, you would never call me cupcake to my face, way to talk smack over the internets.

Broesau Wed 8/13/2008 02:16PM
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Breadloaf, here's mine

1.) Zappa, Roxy and Elsewhere

2.) Allmans, Fillmore East

3.) Grateful Dead, Europe '72

4.) Nirvana, Unplugged

5.) Velvet Underground: Live '69

6.) The Band Rock of Ages

7.) Talking Heads, the name of this band...

8.)The Who, Live at Leeds

9.) Neil Young, Live Rust

10.) Jimi Hendrix, Band of Gypsies

I'm not sure about the order, but here's ten good ones.

King Rhino starstarstarstarstar Wed 8/13/2008 02:24PM
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waker? Lighten up, Francis. You have my font trembling. At 6'4", 250 pounds and having served 10 years in the USMC, any time you wanna step up ... Lemme know when and where. As I said I consider DOUBLE LIVE GONZO as one of the TOP 5 Live Albums in MY OPINION. MY OPINION, 'k? And as far as my music collection goes? Guess what? You'll find Maroon 5 and Britney Spears in there. Of course, they are mixed into a collection that goes back over 30 years and at this point fills most of my garage, my office and the spare room. Not being lactose intolerant musically occasionally I have a craving for a little ear cheese. I will be the first person to scream out at a Ted Nugent concert "For God's sake shut the Hell up and just PLAY!!!" ... Because you may not agree with someone's opinions or beliefs does not necessarily make them a "clown". Like Ted or not, the man stands behind his convictions and this country and nowadays that is hard to find. And, oh yes? Before some of you blow a synapse as to why Ted was covered on jamBase ... I suggest you look at this way: The entire "jam band" scene most probably could have never come about if it were not for the dreaded GUITAR SOLO. So, to be honest? There is not that great a difference between the 8 minute guitar solo in "Stranglehold" and almost any of the stretched out versions of songs jam bands play today. Namaste'

timstewart0 Wed 8/13/2008 02:31PM
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I saw the nuge what i was in high school about 21 years ago, at the time i thought the dude rocked and was a guitar god, the live show cured me of that fallicy. All I can say is the asshole is entitled to his opnions but as a musician, during a live perfomance he totally fucking sucked. Wang bang sweet putang my crotch ted!

Broesau Wed 8/13/2008 02:33PM
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Ok Ok, settle down, soldier. Not interested in "stepping up" to some guy on the internets, (don't even know what that means)that was kinda my point, Sergeant Slaughter. That list was a response to breadloaf's post,"Let's hear some favorites" it's my opinion.

shakobe Wed 8/13/2008 02:35PM
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I'm sorry, but when are nuggent and string cheese touring together?

Broesau Wed 8/13/2008 02:36PM
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And the only reason I said you wouldn't call me cupcake is cause I'm a big ol' fat guy, (not as tough as you, I'm sure though) and if you saw me, you wouldn't think cupcake, thats all.

snappy Wed 8/13/2008 02:56PM
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Objectivity in music writing is complete bunk. Really. It's all subjective and we follow our passions where they lead. Like my recent Journey feature, my affection for Ted's music is sincere. Sure, there's plenty of other stuff closer to my heart & life but I love engaging veterans and picking their brains. I hope there's some folks on JamBase who appreciate the same thing. I might have laid it on a little thick but he brings it out in a person. He's a living exclamation point and it's easy to start speaking in that punctuation when one is around him.

DaveT Wed 8/13/2008 03:32PM
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DaveT

Derek St. Homes...

David St. Hubbins...

Coincidence?! I think not...

BTW- King Rhino, Sergeant Hulka! Very nice.

PooDolla Wed 8/13/2008 04:44PM
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I don't like Nuggent because he is not an environmentalist, he is not a vegetarian, he does not go to politcal rallies to help Darfur, he drives a car that runs on gasoline and is killing the world we live in, he does not respect the beleifs of only people that are radical liberals or people from foreign countries, he does not believe in the government controlling every aspect of our lives in order to make sure things are fair for everyone, he does not believe reverse-discrimination is the solution for racism... and the list just keeps on going. Come on Nuge, get with it already. cough cough

mikeohiostate Wed 8/13/2008 04:46PM
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Sadly, I can see the Nuge meshing well with Widespread Panic.

Flat5 Wed 8/13/2008 05:59PM
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ahaaaa! Rhino listens to Britney Spears! aa haaa! dude, rhino, there is a difference between having a diverse, extensive music collection and having one that contains Britney Spears. you can pride yourself on keeping an open mind, but in the end, YOU OWN A FUCKING BRITNEY SPEARS ALBUM!!

PunkJazz Wed 8/13/2008 06:59PM
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Nuge is now relegated to the "Has been, fair/rodeo circuit". So way to kickass with the best of em Uncle Ted!

canoftunapudding Thu 8/14/2008 05:05AM
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I can't believe Ted says that Green Day are some of the finest musicians around. They blow. I think Ted has a penis complex or something.

HoodooVoodoo star Thu 8/14/2008 06:59AM
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roberto767

Great Article... If you enjoyed this piece, please read my article about David Duke. Here's the link:

http://www.intoleranceandhatedbase.com/davidduke

breadloaf Thu 8/14/2008 07:54AM
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I hear you, snappy, point taken. Like I said, to each his or her own. And nice list, waker. A few of the greatest live ones for me are the Dead Winterland (jazzy Dark Star) and the Great American in SF, It used to be known (bootleg vinyl, I'm showing my age) at the time as "Make Believe Ballroom," they were so tight after recording Blues For Allah. I think it was maybe the first "One from the Vault" recordings. Guitar lovers should check out Pat Martino Live, an amazing recording, as well as Larry Coryell Live at Montreaux. Phish did some really fun stuff on Hampton Comes Alive. And King Rhino, brass balls, man, I have to admire that. I'm trying to think of the lamest thing in my music collection. It used to be fun when all folks had was vinyl- if you went straight to the back of their stack you would find their embarrassments. As long as people line up and pay, Nugent will keep doing it. Hell, I could care less about him and he got my attention- brilliant businees man, I suppose.

blue1971 Thu 8/14/2008 08:54AM
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Thank you for the article Jambase. I don't agree with most of Ted's views but I respect his desire to be drug-free and his desire to be politically incorrect and speak his mind. In the entertainment industry it has to be hard to swim against the stream politically and it is refreshing to see Ted do it, although he doesn't always say things in the best way possible.

He was an idol to many young guitar players in the 70s and 80s and make positive contributions to music.

Hey liberal jam fans who think you are so enlightened, the comments on this thread should show you how you are just as close minded as the people you criticize as being close minded. The irony.

PooDolla Thu 8/14/2008 09:23AM
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PooDolla

Well said blue1971. That last sentence was poetry.

thedrugsworkgreat starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/14/2008 10:19AM
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Since when did becoming a hate monger become cool? What the hell is the matter with you people? Ted Nugent is all about violence and hating others. What's up with that line about shooting Mexicans from atop the Alamo? If you stand up for the guy after he says something like that, then fuck you too. This guy is a royal prick. I don't give a fuck about his music.

thedrugsworkgreat Thu 8/14/2008 11:42AM
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thedrugsworkgreat Thu 8/14/2008 11:43AM
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^^^^ Free Speech. Ted Likes Free Speech.

kaiserbun starstarstar Thu 8/14/2008 12:32PM
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I agree with blue1971, well said. Nugent may be outspoken and a complete ass sometimes, but he has done a ton of great charity work and honestly isn't that bad of a guy. A lot of it is an act for publicity which apparently works pretty well. i really enjoy posts from people like hoodoo voodoo, calm down for god's sake. its really not that big a deal, nobody is saying he has to be your role model.

MutilatedLips Thu 8/14/2008 02:44PM
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I appreciate the fact that jambase covers a wide range of artist, even artist like Ted Nugent, which Im neither a fan of his music and never agreed with his politics. Im still glad that this article is here for the people who are fans of him. I actually listened to an interview with him on Alex Jones show and kind of enjoyed it, he didnt seem like near as much of a close minded jerk as he usually comes across.

whodoyoudo Thu 8/14/2008 03:01PM
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uh...

i dig stranglehold,

but the lyrics kinda freak me out a bit......

akeay Thu 8/14/2008 05:29PM
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akeay

A guy that never drank or did drugs is no rock star. Not even experimenting!?!? Now whose the pussy Ted? Afraid of what you might find in your mind? I would be too if I was you.

phish_420 starstar Thu 8/14/2008 05:41PM
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blue1971 Thu 8/14/2008 06:17PM
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blue1971

thedrugsworkgreat - hey, fyi, your drugs aren't working.....

joeyb4 Fri 8/15/2008 06:49AM
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I happen to be an avid hunter... This guy give legit hunters a bad name. I hunt so i dont have to support factory farming and horrible meat processing system in the US. I try to do my best to live off the land and harvest my own food. I have a 5 acre organic farm as well. I hunt because i enjoy nature in a way you cant get just hiking. Nugent is violent, sick, and self righteous. He hunts for the thrill of the kill. He probally hunts antlers and not deer. I catch alot of shit from other hunters for the long hair, hemp, and the grateful dead. They worship this guy, and it sucks for someone in-tune like myself. Makes me sick.

blue1971 Fri 8/15/2008 10:42AM
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If you think Ted Nugent hunts for the thrill of the kill, you don't pay much attention to Ted Nugent, and you didn't watch the video in the article.

"someone in-tune like myself." Ha egotistical much?

skunkape Fri 8/15/2008 11:09AM
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Back in the day...he had a cool pinball machine...still can't stand the facker though.

metaltje Fri 8/15/2008 01:11PM
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can we now just all agree that pinball is good and leave it at that?

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PrinceofDANKNESS Sun 8/17/2008 12:57AM
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I could take or leave the music - not really what I'm into.

But his beliefs are where it's at - Let's all wave goodbye to the america that I love because your all a bunch of sheep -BAA BAAA

One thing I would like to say to the Nuge - despite the fact that jer did drugs they probably would have gotten along pretty well - Jerry wasn't the pussy that the rest of his band and most of his fans were - He was an outlaw in the same sense that the Nuge is! Not many people know, or choose to ignore, that Jer was an avid gun collector and shooter. Also, PHILIP LESH he wouldn't be telling young impresionables how to think - he would let them decide on their own, not throwing his hat into OBAMAnations ring.

eskay231 starstarstarstar Sun 8/17/2008 09:04AM
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as an old guy (52) i never ever liked this idiot's music. he uses his fame as a bully pulpit to advance his red neck views. he insults the great gar, a kind, loving thoughtful & intelligent man who could play circle around nugent. i wouldn't piss on nugent if he were on fire!!!

smokey82832 Sun 8/17/2008 01:08PM
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Nuge is classic.....I don't really dig hi smusic all that much but what's wrong with liking guns/hunting and wanting the gov't to stay out of your shit...that is pretty much what he stands for....hippies complain how the gov't sucks so bad but yet they are the first ones who want gov't healthcare and gov't regulation around almost every aspect of our lives except drug use.....who ever said being a hippie gets u more ass than a redneck conservative,,well sorry to say but nuge is a the master when it comes to getting some tail...very well documented....so go hug obama he'll need it in november

greengrass starstarstarstarstar Mon 8/18/2008 09:48AM
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greengrass

This article was perfectly written, I think it is great that Jambase did an article on Ted Nugent and did it well. While I don't really agree with most of his views. I think his main point is that he has a right to say them and in this world of tippie toein around the issues at least Jambase recognized good article potential and wrote the damn thing. The one thing he is right about is the So Cal Coyote Problem, people lock their children and pets up in fear of Coyotes instead of just taking care of them. I never understood that when people talk about them. Also Green Day needs a new Jambase article.

joeyb4 Mon 8/18/2008 11:26AM
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Blue1971: You've obviously never met him. So dont talk shit until you know what the hell you are commenting about.

And yes i do believe im "in-tune" with the environment and sportsmanship. i dont think thats egotisitical at all. Do you even know what egotistical means? I guess not fucking douche bag.

PooDolla Mon 8/18/2008 03:20PM
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"I don't have a coyote problem where I live. The coyotes have a Ted problem!"

dreadyknowsbest starstarstarstarstar Mon 8/18/2008 05:53PM
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dreadyknowsbest

This just in....I hear the first PHISH SHOW will reunite the band dec. 31 2008 Mexico City ....tickets go on sale oct, 31...Hope this is not a phishy trick,,,,source reliable,,,,,,see you at the show

anonymous Tue 8/19/2008 08:29AM
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so. cal. has a PEOPLE problem....its a freakin' dessert, of course there's coyotes....and people were locking there kids up away from people long before coyotes.....i'd be way more cautious of people before i worried about coyotes....

THoff46 Tue 8/19/2008 03:34PM
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this guy is like the gg allin of the wilderness who just happens to be loveable in the eyes of republicans. he is just as immoral and psychotic. lets see him use his massive fucking gun collection that he loves so much in the heart of iraq. fucking coward. if he were drowning i would throw him a cinderblock.

smokey82832 Tue 8/19/2008 03:41PM
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THOFF....so ALL republicans are immoral and psychotic WOW u must be pelosi's wipping boy to believe that garbage,....I guess abe lincoln was immoral and psychotic as well.....so if u have a large gun collection u have to go fight a war???it's like saying b/c I own a car I have to drive in the indy 500......u have to be 15 years old b/c u have no logic and no real thought...sound familiar??? it's call congress!!!

THoff46 Thu 8/21/2008 01:48PM
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I was saying that Ted Nugent is just as immoral and psychotic as gg allin was. i guess it must be pretty difficult to put words in proper context with your head shoved so far up your ass.

torn&treyed Sat 8/30/2008 11:13AM
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This is kind of what he was getting at..... No offense but liberals are much more guilty of jumping down the other side's throat at the drop of hat. My own personl feelings aside; is it right that a group of people in hollywood have to get together in secret for fear of their livelyhoods based on contrasting political beliefs. Is it fair that someone goes to see a concert and and has some less educated (less than me) muscians prattle on and on about things that have no place there. Now you jump down the nuge's throat because he actually had the courage to tell you what his poltical beliefs are. I am currently in grad school and I'm scared to death to even give people an inkling of who I am going to vote for with the fear of my grades, and my classmates having the same reactions as alot of you guys. Forget the patriot act you people have taken the 1st amendment and in a defacto retroactive manner wiped your ass with it.

Thanks. Oh yeah one last thing....... guy who was endorsed by hamas and that other guy in chicago who wanted to bomb the pentaon in the 70's? or guy who was tortured for his country. Now if you dont mind hamas then well that means you are cool with terror. wow this almost makes me miss the the flame wars

torn&treyed Sat 8/30/2008 11:17AM
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oh yeah and the nuge is a pretty weak guitar player, That superband show he was on, all he did was plug in and play the national anthem a bunch of times, he tried to go play with that kid from the B B king diabetes commericals and the kid just made him his bitch like trey does to pretty much every famous person with whome he plays

phishinpanic Mon 9/1/2008 11:14AM
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I like guns...and I like hippies, too. Hell, I like Ted Nuggent and Jerry Garcia. I like Phish,Panic, and String Cheese (unheard of). Drugs are O.K, but so are people who don't do them. I eat vegatables and raw red meat. But one thing I can't get along with is an unrealist left wing blowhard (like many on this thread) who can't seem to just keep their cake holes shut with their damn politikin all the time. "I hate Ted Nuggent because I'm a liberal...blah blah"

Fza Tue 10/7/2008 06:45AM
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He didn't invent douche bags...but he's the biggest one

BlowsAgainsttheEmpire Fri 10/10/2008 02:31PM
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Paul Kantner and Ted Nugent celebrity death match. Bring it.