Summer Camp | 05.23 - 05.25 | Illinois

Words by: Pat Knibbs | Images by: Norman Sands

Summer Camp 2008 :: 05.23.08 – 05.25.08 :: Three Sisters Park :: Chillicothe, IL

The Flaming Lips :: Summer Camp 2008
Summer Camp 2008 set the bar for all other summer festivals, and set it pretty high. This year festival organizers pulled out all the stops. They pieced together an impressive slew of genre-spanning bands that filled the weekend with enough musical highlights to fulfill an average music fans entire summer. It was also a prime example of how the fest has evolved from its humble beginnings into a monster event. All three days were jam-packed with a variety of quality music, and here are just some of the many highlights.

Late Night Thursday

The late night action featured sets from three of the scene's up-and-comers: U-Melt, Family Groove Company and Future Rock. Notable moments came via a nasty funk/disco jam from U-Melt towards the end of their set; a solid front-to-back set from the Chicago-based FGC that showcased the rapping style of bassist-vocalist Janis Wallin; and a wild late night dance-off from Future Rock.

Friday

The early morning downpour couldn't dampen the spirits of the thirsty music fans. sub-ID, the Nashville by way of Chicago trio, laid down their blend of funky electronic dance grooves to the receptive masses on the Sunshine Stage. Their use of sampled sequences with live bass and drums provided a burst of energy, and also allowed the kids a chance to shake their bones after an unseasonably chilly night. Drifting toward the Starshine Stage (the new stage for 2008) shortly after sub-ID's set, the Chicago Afrobeat Project were in the midst of a bouncy rhythmic centered groove. It was hard to stand still during their short set especially since it was so brisk and blustery.

After milling around the grounds, past the Trojan Tent and Guitar Hero setup, I rotated between sets from The Lee Boys, Future Rock and The Avett Brothers, and then ventured towards the main stage for Sound Tribe Sector 9's afternoon set. It was sporadically funky and even brought out the first taste of sun, but couldn't compete with what was going on at the Sunshine Stage, where Girl Talk was warming up.

Dave Murphy - STS9 :: Summer Camp 2008
Fully immersed in the late afternoon sun, I rushed past the throngs of curious onlookers and found myself backstage debating on whether or not I should join the all ready rabid dance party surrounding Girl Talk (a.k.a. Greg Gillis). Prior to the crazy mash-up of Metallica's "One" and Two Live Crew's "Ass and Tities" (which featured a cameo appearance by Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips), I joined the party. The momentum and energy onstage was infectious and exhilarating. It was clearly a personal highlight of my weekend (maybe my life), and was topped off by the set's closer, a rare take on Nirvana's "Scentless Apprentice" that featured Gillis singing the entire song.

Following Girl Talk the night excelled at a ferocious pace, and thanks to The Flaming Lips I was able to check off another of my short term goals: be a part of their wild stage show. With the confetti cannons booming, a giant LED screen covering the back of the stage, and more onstage dancers than Girl Talk, the Lips rocked! Spirited versions of "Radical," "W.A.N.D.," a massive sing-along of "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Pt. 1" and the classic "She Don't Use Jelly" all stood out. If there was one downside it was the momentum slowing between song rants from Coyne, which carried weight but seemed too preachy. At the conclusion of the Lips, I ventured down to the Main Stage just in time to catch the encore of Umphrey's McGee's set, a brilliant and nearly perfect version of Pink Floyd's "Shine on You Crazy Diamond."

The late night entertainment on Friday was provided by Ha Ha the Moose, which featured three masked men - unofficially moe.'s Chuck Garvey (guitar) and Rob Derhak (bass) with an unknown drummer. Surrounded by inflatable penises and a tripped-out backdrop, hidden behind horned masks, the trio opened with AC/DC's "Big Balls." They blasted through several heavy Primus-like jams in their set before welcoming out some of Central Illinois' finest strippers, who provided a wild peep show for the late night campers! After Ha Ha the Moose finished, Tea Leaf Green rocked 'til the wee hours. New bassist Reed Mathis was dead-on, and his interaction with guitarist Josh Clark was quite impressive.

Saturday

Allie Kral - Cornmeal :: Summer Camp '08
Starting my day at the Camping Stage, I caught the tail end of St. Louis-based funk/soul centered Madahoochi. The soft, luscious vocals of keyboardist Shawn Hartung were rather pleasant for a late morning/early afternoon boogie. After the Hoochi set, I made my way to the first of two Chicago bands, starting with Family Groove Company on the Sunshine Stage. Their set was solid and highlighted by the set closer, an interesting up-tempo run through Otis Redding's "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay." After FGC, I headed towards the Main Stage for Cornmeal who rocked during the rare afternoon sun. Their last jam was a nasty, extended disco-grass throw down that segued perfectly into the Lotus set already in full swing on the Sunshine Stage.

Approaching the stage just as the group began the super funky "Tip of the Tongue," I couldn't help but boogie my way up towards the already massive dance party. As a unit Lotus is top-notch. Their funky groove-centered jams had the afternoon crowd moving and helped keep the blood going as the temps began to dip down again!

The second of Umphrey's McGee's festival set was okay and even featured a couple of guests (Mike Racky and George Jones on "Great American"), but it was the reunited Blind Melon that tweaked my interest. The decision to replace the legendary Shannon Hoon with avid Blind Melon fan Travis Warren was a tricky and risky transition, but Warren stepped up to the plate. His take on Blind Melon classics, especially "No Rain," was impressive and eerily similar to Hoon. Their set was good, but to a hardcore Blind Melon fan it could have come off as a glorified cover band. The rest of my evening featured pieces of G. Love, The Roots and moe. before settling in for a nasty late night funkstravaganza from Ivan Neville's Dumpstaphunk.

Sunday

Finally sunshine and warmth joined the party!

Stephen Perkins - Banyan :: Summer Camp 2008
My morning opened with the bouncy funk of Iowa-city based Euforquestra. These gents kept the crowd, many of whom looked rather ragged, moving in the early afternoon heat. Their infectious polyrhythmic grooves helped this scribe, and a handful of others, sweat out a good bit of the previous day's party and provided a lively jolt of necessary energy.

The rest of the afternoon was hot, both musically and literally. The Bloomington, IL-based Backyard Tire Fire rocked the mid-day music fans with their raw, raucous hillbilly stomp, highlighted by a fierce take on Warren Zevon's "Lawyers, Guns and Money." Over on the Main Stage, Hot Buttered Rum zipped through their set and even dropped a version Phish's "Possum" before welcoming out moe.'s Al Schneir for a song. But, it was the lively back-to-back funk sets from Dumpstaphunk and George Clinton's Parliament-Funkadelic that set the day off! The intense energy from Dumpstaphunk ignited the rowdiest dance-off of the weekend, and carried seamlessly over into the Parliament set. Ivan Neville, Tony Hall and crew exploded through their set with a fury. The "Africa/New Orleans" jam was off the charts, and the interplay between the dual bass work of Hall and Nick Daniels was virtuosic and explosive, and entwined harmoniously with both Ian and Ivan Neville's melodies.

After a brief stop over for Banyan, it was back to the Sunshine Stage for Parliament. This was the most crowded set of the weekend, and was perfect for the beaming, sun-soaked late afternoon. Classics like "Bop Gun (Endangered Species)," "We Want the Funk" and "Cosmic Slop" worked the crowd into an uncontrollable frenzy. Flashy '70s style pimp suits, men in diapers and a plethora of band members roamed on and off the stage throughout the two-hour set. Clinton was right on with his "one nation under a groove, getting down just for the funk of it" vibe, which is exactly what transpired.

Al Schnier - moe. :: Summer Camp 2008
Energized by the overload of funk, moe. took the stage for their final sets of the weekend and showed why they've been the focus of the festival. The monster second set was ridiculous. The "Not Coming Down" > "Wormwood" > "Synchronicity" segue was slick, and during which Schneir and Garvey appeared high above their subsequent stage sides on the massive lighting rigs, where they proceeded to shred! moe., who might have been outshined earlier in the festival, stepped up their game and gave the energized crowd a wonderful send off with a seventeen-plus minute "Rebubula" encore.

I've seen this festival grow leaps and bounds over the last several years, and this year's edition was the most solid lineup to date. Wayne Coyne was on to something when he mentioned how this was "one of the great festivals in America", and hopefully it will stay that way because the bar they set this year was extremely high.

The Flaming Lips :: Summer Camp 2008
The Flaming Lips :: Summer Camp 2008
The Flaming Lips :: Summer Camp 2008
The Flaming Lips :: Summer Camp 2008
Summer Camp 2008
Umphrey's McGee :: Summer Camp 2008
Jake Cinninger - Umphrey's McGee :: Summer Camp 2008
Ryan Stasik - Umphrey's McGee :: Summer Camp 2008
Hunter Brown - STS9 :: Summer Camp 2008
Ha Ha The Moose :: Summer Camp 2008
Ha Ha The Moose :: Summer Camp 2008
Vince Herman - Great American Taxi :: Summer Camp 2008
Josh Clark & Reed Mathis - Tea leaf Green :: Summer Camp 2008
Reed Mathis - Tea leaf Green :: Summer Camp 2008
Trevor Garrod - Tea leaf Green :: Summer Camp 2008
Ian Neville & Tony Hall - Dumpstaphunk :: Summer Camp 2008
Ivan Neville - Dumpstaphunk :: Summer Camp 2008
Cornmeal :: Summer Camp 2008
The Avett Brothers :: Summer Camp 2008
G. Love :: Summer Camp 2008
Girl Talk :: Summer Camp 2008
Big Jam :: Summer Camp 2008
Black Thought - The Roots :: Summer Camp 2008
?uestlove - The Roots :: Summer Camp 2008
Parliament-Funkadelic :: Summer Camp 2008
Al Schnier - moe. :: Summer Camp 2008
Chuck Garvey - moe. :: Summer Camp 2008
moe. :: Summer Camp 2008
moe. :: Summer Camp 2008

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Comments

pgeano starstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 02:49PM
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You know, as much as I enjoy looking at bare breasts, I wish I had been warned that this is NSFW.

Great stuff, though: it sure makes me wish I had been there!

pgeano starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 02:51PM
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Haha. Now I see the warning; it didn't come through on my RSS feed.

joolzen1 Fri 5/30/2008 03:15PM
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joolzen1

The review did not do justice for this festival. Summer Camp 08 was a non stop funkalicous dance party. Great people and great vibes. Thank God for Summer Camp

sleewell Fri 5/30/2008 03:27PM
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Justin Gillett Fri 5/30/2008 03:34PM
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Justin Gillett

Lost me after: "...towards the main stage for Sound Tribe Sector 9's afternoon set. It was sporadically funky and even brought out the first taste of sun, but couldn't compete with what was going on at the Sunshine Stage, where Girl Talk was warming up." Wow.

pushedbyboredom1 Fri 5/30/2008 03:55PM
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"sleewell

this guy missed Umph for Flaming Lips?!?! lame.

stone Fri 5/30/2008 03:34PM

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stone

Lost me after: "...towards the main stage for Sound Tribe Sector 9's afternoon set. It was sporadically funky and even brought out the first taste of sun, but couldn't compete with what was going on at the Sunshine Stage, where Girl Talk was warming up." Wow."

agreed

nick1304 star Fri 5/30/2008 04:15PM
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I must agree with the other comments that this this a rather poorly written piece. There is much to say about the uniqueness of this festival, and you're not learning much about the plethora of music that was jammed into the weekend. Must say my first Summer Camp was wonderful.

knibbs Fri 5/30/2008 04:15PM
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nobodysjam starstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 04:27PM
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nobodysjam

this festie demands at least 3 reviewers with mixed taste-if you judge a fest by what you had to miss to see what you saw, then this reviewer missed a SICK fest

Awesomeness starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 04:39PM
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hookah420 Fri 5/30/2008 04:46PM
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I've been to the last 3 summercamps before this year; and while the music rocked, the vibe was WEIRD! I've gone to hundreds of festivals and tours and summercamp's scene was odd. I usually make friends at shows, not summercamp. People tried stealing my tent from outside my car while I was in it! A LOT of bad shit goin around. Plus it's the only fest where you canNOT bring in your own beer!!! Moe rules but summercamp does not!

FreshFlavor starstar Fri 5/30/2008 05:59PM
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FreshFlavor

Crazy how you can be at the same place and have such a completely different experience. SummerCamp had the greatest people. Beautiful stages, deals, music, and setting perfect. Little neighborhoods where people were camping everywhere...really nice style the way it was set up. This rightup with one line for STS9 is freakin rediculous. They played an incredible noon set that the people were loving. This guy has no idea what he is talking about for the most part. Is another SummerCamp article going to be posted with someone doing it right?? Nothing about Roots man are you serious? That show was incredible...people didn't leave the stage until 30 minutes after Roots were done still screaming for em. Clean up on isle 5 on this one JamBase. Sorry guys but really off mark.

SnapHappy Fri 5/30/2008 06:02PM
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SnapHappy

hey knibbs...

...the reason UM didn't have naked chicks on their stage is because they don't need them to get people who know good music when they hear it... to watch and listen.

aquariumdrunk Fri 5/30/2008 06:57PM
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aquariumdrunk

<<"People tried stealing my tent from outside my car while I was in it!">>

Awesome. This made reading all the comments worthwhile.

spaceface7 starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 08:33PM
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spaceface7 Fri 5/30/2008 08:39PM
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and to joolzen... a review is not supposed to do a festival justice, or any show for that matter, the magic cant be written in words. i dont even know why i read these stupid comments... and the drummer in haha the moose the vinnie amico, this moe.trio is straight up sick, sounds like primus

hookah420 Fri 5/30/2008 08:54PM
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Come to the Ledges!!! NLQP has real people, real shit, it's the real deal!!! Down with Illinois, up with OHIGHO!

fluffhead182 starstar Fri 5/30/2008 08:54PM
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fluffhead182

I'm all for listening to new types of music and new bands, but thus far the only argument I have heard for The Flaming Lips was they had naked chicks on stage. Umphrey's pulled out one of the phattest two set shows I have ever seen. "Come Closer" (a mix between The Beatles "Come Together" and NIN "Closer") was one of the most inspired/talented/just plain awesome covers I have ever seen to end the first set. The second set Divisions->Phil's Farm->Divisions was nasty. Also Girl Talk over STS9, moe. being upstaged...really?

FrankJam Fri 5/30/2008 08:56PM
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FrankJam

to "Awesomeness".....there's a reason you've gotten 4 thumbs down.....it's because the Lips, who do put on an amazing show, don't even come close to comparing w/ Umphrey's as far as musical talent goes......and Girl Talk...gimme a break....STS9 put on a GREAT afternoon set(but should have played late night).....Summercamp rules!

FreshFlavor star Fri 5/30/2008 08:59PM
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FreshFlavor

New review tomorrow please.

blueberrycaves star Fri 5/30/2008 09:07PM
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River starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 09:35PM
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ScIFreak starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 11:02PM
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ScIFreak

Dude SummerCAmp 08 was the best time. I saw soo many good artists, it was incredible. Sound Tribe S. 9 was the SHIT!!!!!! Their set was by far on of the best of the weekend, the part when the sun came out while they were trance jamming was EPIC!!!!!!!! I always hated Girl Talk but I have to admit I danced My ass off to his show after STS9 (pop that PUSSY > WHATCHA' KNow About THAT) HAHAH SOO MUCH FUN! I hadn't seen UMPH for about a year and I think their sound changed a shiton, this band is def. embrassing the dance techno grooves that have been blooming these past few years. Moe was good, esp the last set where both where on the towers....

C ya in 09

PS; ONLY 10 ARRESTS THIS YEAR BY THE COPS. NOT BAD, WATCH OUT FOR BIG BULKY GUYS WITH BEARDS/MUSTACHES AND WHO ARE VERY CLEAN AND LOOK SOBER AS FUCK!!!!! sOME 16 YR OLD KID GOT HIS ARM BREAK AND 2 BLACK EYES FOR SELLING THEM MUSHROOMS...!! FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!!!11

ScIFreak starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 11:05PM
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ScIFreak

oH YEA AND THE LIPS SUCKED BALLS!!!!! THEY CAN PUT AS MANY NAKED GIRLS ON STAGE I STILL WON'T GO SEE THEM ( BY THE WAY IT WAS MY 5TH TIME TRYING TO GO SEE THEM, AND FOR THE 5TH TIME I THINK THEY SUCKED SOO MUCH DONKEY BALLS. UMPH SHOWED US WHAT REAL MUSIC WAS AFTER THAT HORRIBLE SET

thehurricane23 Fri 5/30/2008 11:08PM
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thehurricane23

you wanna talk about a weird vibe at summercamp? The year they cancelled it early because the storms were coming in we had some uber-weird shit happen to us. Our friend decided to stay in the first night as she was pregnant and about the time were all rolling back to camp we hear screams coming from the microbus, this kid about 18 is naked and had crawled into the bus and woke her up... Man it was ridiculous the cops came and the kid pissed himself literally, the promoter personally came out and apologized, they didnt arrest the kid thank god and we told them not to pump his stomach, all the poor kid could do was touch his finger to his tongue in the old "i dropped L " gesture. Pretty crazy times

ScIFreak Fri 5/30/2008 11:09PM
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ScIFreak

UPHREY'S TAKES FLAMING LIPS ON ANY DAY OF THE FUCKING WEEk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thehurricane23 Fri 5/30/2008 11:16PM
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thehurricane23

Yo hookah420 I definetely am coming out to the ledges this year, its been a long time since I been there but some friends just moved back to OH. Mickey Hart was having a b-day party there in 99 and we met some kids on summer tour with Phish and ended up there, its a great time.

kennywms starstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 11:26PM
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kennywms

Alright

First of all, STS9 had the best set and vibe of the whole festival, and they didn't even play at night when they're in their prime with Saxton Waller's light show, everyone I asked said that was their favorite show during the fest, plus the Tap-In was crazy, Zach went completely nuts...

Second, <"and the drummer in haha the moose the vinnie amico, this moe.trio is straight up sick, sounds like primus">... the drummer of Ha Ha the Moose is not a mysterious person or Vinnie Amico, it's moe.'s percussionist Jim Loughlin

Third, you missed the The Macpodz knibbs and that was another one of my highlights of the weekend, small crowd but everyone was diggin it, plus Jim and Vinnie from moe. both sat in with them, good stuff

umoe starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/30/2008 11:28PM
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spaceface7 Fri 5/30/2008 11:41PM
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i always get vinnie and jim mixed up- and on a personnal note - umphreys is my favorite band...ever. all im sayin is that maybe the dude has seen umpreys a million times, varity is never a bad thing, but if he missed out on some "come closer" shit (which i have to hear) for a "lame" lips show then too bad for him... hey umoe where do you hail from??? ....hell???

mikemac9317 Sat 5/31/2008 05:18AM
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thadbosetti star Sat 5/31/2008 06:21AM
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thadbosetti

Quite the amazing festival for sure. As for the article, I think jambase could be doing SO SO much better than this. I'm not one to critique what I read, but damn, this was probably the most poorly written article I have read on here in quite a while. And as far as the lips go, I was at the show for 50 minutes and Wayne Coyne literally talked for 35 minutes of it. Also, the degrading comments made by The New Pornographers really makes me rethink my views on the "hipsters". I gave all of the other varieties of music a chance, but neither The Flaming Lips, nor The New Pornographers were nowhere near the level of musicianship that was displayed at summercamp 08. In conclusion, The Flaming Lips was probably the worst concert I have seen since Yellowcard opened for Janes Addiction at the Gravity games. Wayne Coyne needs to give it up.

thadbosetti star Sat 5/31/2008 06:26AM
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thadbosetti

Also, mikemac, what do you think the whole Laming Lips mantra is? Psychedelica. Seriously, he has a camera with weird effects hooked onto his mic and pulsating rainbow screens in the back drop. I would venture to say the whole schtick is motivated by drugs. If mikemac knew the first thing about musicianship and professionalism, I might have considered his comment. And also, I wanna know what "real" music your talking about. Soul-less laptop rock or BrO.A.R.? Inquiring Minds would like to know.

happyelandorf Sat 5/31/2008 08:10AM
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I must say, I saw Umphreys, and as much as I love them I was rather disappointed in them Friday night and I'm glad I went to see The Lips instead. I hear the next day that Umphreys put on a better show, so I probly should have gone to see them then. Moe. put on one hell of a show Saturday and Sunday. Blind Melon exceeded my expectations, and beleive me I wasn't expecting much. I was also kinda disapointed in Sound Tribe. George Clinton was badass, luckily I made it back from my high school graduation to see the last of his show. I think the whole weekend was intense, and everyone played their asses off, I can't realy complain. I will definately be back next year.

GB3K-Poops Sat 5/31/2008 08:36AM
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GB3K-Poops

This was my first year attending Summer camp and i had a blast! You guys are forgetting how sick TLG's set was. The new bassist blew my mind! Tribe and Umph both put on great shows as I new they would! I did check out the Flaming Lips for about 45 minutes in between Umphrey's sets and although I thought it was a good set I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. The music was mediocre sounding and the fact that the band needed a big screen with crazy visuals of space and rainbows (or the camera on Wayne's mic) or naked women to bring a crowd in. I MEAN C'MON THE BAND DIDN'T EVEN PLAY YOSHIMI PT 2. The music wasn't that great so I left (I did enjoy the naked women though, don't get me wrong.) As far as the vibes went this fest was def the worst one I've ever been to. I had a great time and I met some pretty cool people, but I've never heard of more people stealing at a fest then this one. I know of someone who got a couple g's of Molly stolen right out of their tent, Another guy I know had a qtr of nug, a half of shroomz and a tenth of Molly stolen from him on the last day. I'd been to plenty of fests in the past (this being my first Summer Camp) And I've never heard of more theft then I did at this fest!

FatEleBass star Sat 5/31/2008 08:36AM
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This was definitely one of the best festivals I have ever been to (best of my 4 Summercamps), as well as one of the worst/most inaccurate Jambase reviews I have ever read.

The Flaming Lips set was horrible. No energy at all. I think they usually play for all Lips fans and feed off that, but playing for people confused by their incredibly non-tight tunes probably threw them off. I'm not saying anything against them other than it was one bad set. I heard many times that they were gonna "pull out all the stops" for this festival season, but I certainly saw nothing of the sort. Not like they brought the naked ladies with them.

All 3 Umphrey's sets individually were some of the best I've ever seen, and combined they were even better.

moe.'s Saturday night was maybe the best moe. set I've ever seen, too. This is from a guy who has probably seen them 20 times and never really enjoyed it. They actually expanded their jams and played in some interesting styles rather than always sounding exactly like moe always does. And it wasn't nearly as full of their poppy tunes as usual.

As the hardcore Blind Melon fan he spoke of, their set was perhaps the most surprisingly amazing of the weekend. I was nearly brought to tears. It was very tasteful and faithful, yet brand new at the same time. He even brought out Hoon's daughter Nico and let the band jam by themselves at the end.

The Roots was absolutely incredible, too. I can't wait to see them for my second time later this month! I was pretty wary of their set as a non-rap fan, but every second was "off the hook", as it were. The band even got to jam by themselves for like 20 minutes, blowing me away with their tightness and virtuosity. They even threw in some Jesus Christ Superstar for taste.

George Clinton's show was atrocious. Clinton said about 6 words the whole time and clapped off beat. Too many chemicals in the past? The band is all amazing but they were never given a chance to shine. It was nowhere near the most packed set of the weekend. They barely played snippets of any real songs. Were you even there, reviewer?! Most disappointing set of the weekend. Did you notice the steady stream of people leaving throughout the set?

Also, Al joined Hot Buttered Rum for 2 songs.

Obviously, I could go on and on and on and on, and sorry for going on as much as I did. I just couldn't let these injustices stand. I couldn't let my fellow Jambasers read only this one inaccurate (in my opinion!!) perception about what was maybe the greatest weekend of music of my life.

Please, please, please Jambase, have someone else write another review! PLEASE! The people have spoken!

See y'all in Chillicothe in 09!

FatEleBass star Sat 5/31/2008 09:10AM
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ALSO, I almost forgot, watch out for "the Hue"!

Saw them on the camping stage, and they will be hitting the scene with force in the very near future, mark my words. Like UM with a good bass player, but not ripping them off.

Joel was definitely digging it.

On that note, it was fantastic to see Joel really fucking rocking out during UM's set, he's usually pretty passive.

Patrick3 starstarstarstarstar Sat 5/31/2008 09:53AM
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Patrick3

The mysterious men under horned masks also know as Ha Ha the Moose, is not Chuck or Rob or Jim but, Jeff Von Kickass, Dr. Guano and Sludge!!!!!!!! "Dr. Guano: What would you do in the name of freedom? Fan: I would stick a crayon up my peehole. Dr. Guano: Dude thats not worth freedom."

Also no one else liked any of moe.'s sets? moe. was on fire expecially for meat on sunday night. Chuck and Al were looking like rock GODS up on the speakers dude! They were fucking rippin it. moe. gets it for me and always will. After all they are why summercamp is happening year after year. And they will be back next year doin the same thing!!!!

BooneRes Sat 5/31/2008 10:12AM
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BooneRes

Th douche bag that wrote this should never be able to write for this site again. I mean man if you wanted to see tits that bad it woulda been cheaper for ya to go to the tittie bar, little boy. I thought jambase was a little classier than this, i mean some people actually read this garbage at work....

jimi29strat Sat 5/31/2008 10:27AM
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jimi29strat

Summercamp was awesome!! flaming lips on the other hand kind of sucked...

Bmanofsky Sat 5/31/2008 10:48AM
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1048 starstarstarstarstar Sat 5/31/2008 11:12AM
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1048

What a great fucking weekend!! And the Flaming Lips SUCKED musically but the performance was A+ as expected.

nzuckerm starstar Sat 5/31/2008 11:15AM
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nzuckerm

This is a terrible, terrible review- no mention of the Roots- he hardly saw any of Umphreys- I thought the flaming lips sounded very mediocre, and of course this guy is all over them- Didn't do justice to the festival in my opinion.

FreshFlavor star Sat 5/31/2008 11:17AM
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Has nothing to do with Moe. fans Bman. You can't classify thousands of people into one big synonymous personality set. Look what that did to the American "indians." Oh look theres 10000 different cultures and languages...lets call them all Indians. Its ignorant to believe all fans of a particular genre or group act in the same manner. Lips playing the most important songs of our wha?? Vasoline? Seriously man...lets watch blood pour all over the nostril cam and drop balloons on everyones heads. Moe. was terrific...they showed every bit why that was their festival. Al and Chuck blew me away with their versatility and the song choice couldn't be any better. Brent Black, Lazarus, Airplane, Ribubla for the final. Glad you pointed out the MacPodz though. Whoever wrote this was clearly disconnected with the vibe and scene and even style and composition are amateur at best...Jambase really showed a lack of judgment by posting it though. 10 pictures of the Flaming Lips...Moe.'s festival and 4 pics?

moejoerisin Sat 5/31/2008 11:48AM
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STS9 had the best set of the weekend.

also, whoever is talking about sketchy vibes must have been at a different festival. the vibe at summercamp was unbeatable - clean, friendly, and beautiful. i've been to tons of shows and fests and never felt that good about the people i was with.

divisions06 starstar Sat 5/31/2008 12:13PM
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summercamp was badass.. umph was amazing friday night. i would see them over the lips any day, naked girls or not.

divisions06 Sat 5/31/2008 12:15PM
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..and moe's light show on saturday night was epic. great stuff.

nsafay Sat 5/31/2008 12:22PM
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seriously Scifreak! what is your fucking problem?

lsd25247 Sat 5/31/2008 12:26PM
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i was at the first moe. set on friday and 4 people dropped to the ground and had to be carried out by their friends. what was goin on?

twist2piper star Sat 5/31/2008 12:45PM
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Weak article, sweet pics. The whole piece just glossed over the real meat of the weekend. Also, Umphrey's thrice melted my face.

joolzen1 Sat 5/31/2008 01:03PM
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joolzen1

Spaceface "the magic cant be written in words." You obviously have never read Harry Potter

Girard starstarstarstarstar Sat 5/31/2008 01:26PM
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Anyone who dosn't know who FAMILY GROOVE COMPANY is from Chicago, it's about time to check them out. Anyone who missed the allready legendary perfornamce of Family Groove Company late-night in the barn, check out this youtube link for their awesome performance of an Eminem tune. Hands down the sickest part of the weekend! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TKyeHxjMWc

DMoney420 Sat 5/31/2008 02:55PM
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One of the pictures labeled Ha Ha the Moose is actually TLG. Trevor is wearing his Yak mask.

j-bizzle Sat 5/31/2008 03:51PM
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Lord-K. starstarstarstar Sat 5/31/2008 06:27PM
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Hmmmmm just reaffirms my prejudices of Umph fans every show they play is the greatest show ever I don't know why they even keep playing they obviously are the pinnacle of jam music, might as well quit while they are ahead...whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Other than that pissed i had to miss the camp this year looks like another stellar time

chadsmi starstarstar Sat 5/31/2008 07:30PM
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This was my 4th Summercamp and best to date!

To comment on everyone here- I am pretty sure everyone here has different musical preferences and to harp on the fact that Knibbs enjoyed Flaming Lips and didnt go see UM(who played 2 shows over the weekend) can you really blame him? The Flaming lips might not be a solid Jam Band, but they sure do put on one hell of a show! As far as acts I have seen on stage, Out of the hundreds of shows I have seen over the years, it was probably one of the best acts I have seen aside from U2's Vertigo Tour. And who doesnt like naked girls? I mean seriously. Despite the music not being that great, and not being a Flaming lips fan, the show was spectacular and when the Synapses are burning, and your vasoconstricters have come undone, this was a truly surreal experience. Had I been onstage for the show, I proably would have given it such a great review as well. Regarding Girltalk; First let me tell you that I like all music, but the general country genre. Girl talk was a BLAST. It was an hour and a half of fun. Everyone was having a great time!!

Some of the Highlights of the weekend and bands you should all check out are: Future Rock ( late night and day show). The Lee Boys as always Ripped it up! Lotus who were not only the highlight kickoff to JamCruise this year, were the Highlight of Saturday afternoon. Bump, Grooveatron and Ugly Suit were all excellent! G. Love was Funky as hell! Shadyside Allstars Rockedthe Camping stage! After seein the MacPodz at 10KLF and langerado, I knew better than to miss them and man was I glad I went! One of th highlights of the fest. The Hue, Phonograph were also hidden Jemz.. Papa Malii rocked as always!! DumpstaPhunk late night was SICK!!! The funk didnt stop till well after 4AM and they were pretty much kicked off stage. They didnt stop playing! There was an artist who's name I missed, whose work was surreal. He created some amazing psychadeli works in Magenta, Teal and Black ona a rear light white dry erase board, would take asnapshot of the work , erase it and then start over. The North Indiana Allstars, led by Jake from UM Kicked Ass!

Regarding an unphriendly crowd, yes there was definitely a bit of shadiness at this festival and very young tour ratz stealing and taking way to many drugz. I saw one kid at Lotus piss himself and fall over face first in a field. God only knows what he was on. He ended up being OK... Some fo my friends who camed in the woods got their chairs stolen, and I did see people rummaging through other peoples camp sites. For the 3rd year I camped in VIP and it was definitely an older crowd and most people were more considerate and knew how to handle themselves and their partying.

VIP camping is the way to go.

I Photographed my weekend and you cna find the pictures Here :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chad-smith/collections/72157605358362814/

I hop you enjoy the Pics. If you want to download any of them. Please let me know. Onlt 4 weeks to Rothbury!

moejoerisin Sat 5/31/2008 08:43PM
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i bet most of the pass outs were honestly just young kids just getting way too drunk all day, forgetting to eat and drink water, and not knowing limits.

moejoerisin Sat 5/31/2008 08:52PM
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by the way, thanks for those pics chad. you were mighty busy - that's a lot of shots!

briank67 Sat 5/31/2008 08:57PM
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this is an ok review. how can i write one?

divisions06 Sat 5/31/2008 08:58PM
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hey everyone i would highly recommend checking out a band called Moon Taxi from nashville that played summercamp this year..

ScIFreak starstarstarstarstar Sat 5/31/2008 11:03PM
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Moon Taxi and Steeze was by far the best bands that was on that stage, STEEZE was soo good!!!! Never heard of them before and I missed the first few openers of MOE's last set for them. I was just glued/stoked at these guys... Too bad the article didn't give enough time to the small bands, instead of promoting Flaming Lips like they fucking need a fanbase already.... DID YOU SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THE HAVE TO SPEND TO KEEP THEIR AUDIENCE CAPTIVATED ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN THEIR HORRIBLE MUSIC?!!

schofizzl Sun 6/1/2008 01:12AM
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i wish these idiots would quit calling the flaming lips talentless, just because wayne can hardly sing on stage... anybody who hears their studio works and still calls them talentless doesn't deserve to have their opinion heard in the first place. you dont like them, that's fine. you think umphrey's is better at their instruments? so do i! that doesnt mean the lips are completely worthless though. check out the soft bulletin and tell me that shit's not genius.

silent9bass starstar Sun 6/1/2008 06:27AM
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Pretty underwhelming review of an amazing weekend.

You cannot seriously say STS9 "couldn't compete" with Girl Talk. Don't get me wrong Girl Talk was a fun time (and THE BIGGEST straight up dance party of the weekend), but I will be listening to that sound tribe set for years to come. It was old school, funky and just as much of a dance party as girl talk if you were down for getting down. Tap In, need I say more.

Also, no ROOTS? That just makes this the biggest joke of an article I've ever read. They had a KILLER set, probably the best live hip hop act touring.

I know you most likely did not attend most of these shows as you could easily write that review looking at the weather forecast, the schedule and the band descriptions from the summercamp website. Any other information was probably just word of mouth, so I don't know how you didn't hear about THE MACPODZ amazing set. Also I heard STEEZ put on one of the most amazing shows all weekend, I just wish it wasn't during moe.'s raging set with Jake.

Long Live Summercamp!

mikemac9317 Sun 6/1/2008 07:31AM
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Thadbosetti,

I am not particularly saying that Flaming Lips are some amazing band that all people should like or consider liking. I am just stating that Flaming Lips are a differrent band that put on a show, meaning visuals and music. Talent obviously with both UM and the Lips, but with UM I just have seen that it gets repetative. No I am not saying that Flaming Lips change it up. They do play the same set at their shows, but they aren't a touring act whatsoever. I wouldn't tour with them, but I would go see them over UM any day. I just think that UM are overrated. They are talented and have good guitar players but shit dude, it is just the same thing over and over with a few o the bands that are so hyped on this site.

okalrightic Sun 6/1/2008 10:13AM
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this is probably the worst writing ive seen on jambase.

summercamp was incredible. STS definitely had the best set and anyone who was that floored by the flaming lips set obviously missed the boat.

FreshFlavor star Sun 6/1/2008 10:13AM
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Wow Knibbs and your response about going to Lips mainly for naked chicks reinforces how freaking clueless and distorted your priorities are at a festival. Sounded like a trucker intent on hitting the titty bar after a days long haul. Nice cigar lol. Yeah I can guarantee this is your last job for JamBase. At least I hope so. If they paid for you to walk around and enjoy the great music and you instead chose to wack off to Lips and nap during Roots etc. Pretty horrible investment.

sbannis star Sun 6/1/2008 10:48AM
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terrible review, scamp was amazing. this guy writes like he is in 5th grade. booooooooooo

Grateful Red Sun 6/1/2008 11:59AM
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I was there for the entire festy. The write up by Knibbs is the worst I've ever read and I laugh at its inconsistencies with what actually occurred. On Thurs. Tea Leaf rocked out as the highlight of the day with U-Melt owning the latenight. On Fri. moe. played a ripping afternoon set with a Cpt. America opener and a Timmy Tucker in there too. Then I went to see UM's 1st set, left early to catch the Lips set, watched about half of it and Wayne DID talk WAY TOO MUCH! Rants about voting, the gov, etc... So I went back early to see more UM. They truly killed and the "Shine on you Crazy Diamond" encore was a SummerCamp highlight! Then Tea Leaf after HA HA made for an unreal late night. Also, any write up not lauding the new addition of Reed Mathis to Tea Leaf is just missing the biggest shake up this year in the jam scene. they are big time now with that sound he brings!

Sat. was a lazy afternoon and the festy really didn't hit its groove until the 2nd moe. set of the evening where they just killed! The Plane Crash was outta this world and the lights were unreal. Like we were indoors almost because of all the trees and cloud cover. Late night was unreal again with the N. IN All-Stars killing it!

Sun. was a great day, but how can knibbs think that the crackfest, I mean the P-Funk set was the festy's highlight!?!? It was a low light!!!! Dumpstaphunk was a home run. Clinton is so fat and that crowd was SCARY!!! They should play at night because all the sunshine brought out the utter disgust that were the faces of this crack fueled throng. Then moe. came out and delivered 2 more rippin sets and proved why they are the premiere jamband on the scene right this minute.

One final note. WHEN, the Lips played and didn't talk, it was really good. As the set progressed, he talked more and more. UM had no 12 year olds at their show and that is the lamest critique of a band I've ever heard. UM killed and they deserved the Fri. late night slot and there set proved it beyond a shadow if a doubt. I missed the Beatles/NIN Closer, but then heard it the next day from a taper nearby. IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE!!!!! And as long as you drive in you RV, like I did with my buds, nobody searches you and we took in like 8 cases of 3 Floyds beer and about 5 handles. Plus all the other goodies. Rent an RV next year and bring in all you desire!!! As you get older you gotta evolve and get better at knowing how to have a good time! And knibbs, who the fuck writes a review, looks at what comments are made, and then goes on himself and responds to sed comments!? What a fucking joke! Have some thicker skin and after you write your review, deal with it! Grow up! Your review blew and you're gonna get shit for missing so many sets and basically all the late nights in your sorry ass review.

P.S. I'll be there again next year...

spreadhed83 Sun 6/1/2008 12:05PM
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k good overall review...but im gonna say what im sure many others already have. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU WRITE A REVIEW IF YOURE NOT GOING TO WATCH THE TWO HEADLINERS PLAY IN THEIR HEADLINING SLOTS!! and fyi...im from oklahoma and have seen the lips many times and let me tell you guys something .... it is the same show every single time. i still cannot figure the hype out. if youve seen them once you have seen them a million times. it just baffles me whoever wrote this review chose to skip umphreys and moe. the two bands are the reason this festival exists for crying out loud!! geez common

Grateful Red Sun 6/1/2008 12:13PM
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After reading my little diatribe there, I realized I left out the amazing Lotus set! They were so tight and they had an audience full of chicks and the whole field was groovin! I will be downloading some of their shows and will not miss them if they come near AZ! Can't believe I forgot them, they were so tight!

spreadhed83 star Sun 6/1/2008 12:38PM
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and one more thing... he also said that the drummer for ha ha the moose was an "unknown drummer." PFFF i mean are you serious. the drummer was jim loughlin... moe's freakin percussionist.. i take back what i said about this review being good overall... this review SUCKS ASS!nice job pat haha!

1 Sun 6/1/2008 12:39PM
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THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE THE HUE

cajn_head Sun 6/1/2008 12:42PM
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JAMBASE, I have come to the realization that you as a company seem to be in need of some people that know what good music is and can also write about it. I am officialy putting in my resume, trust me I can do better than this terrible article. Thanks, CALL ME!

Conjugal Burning Sun 6/1/2008 02:02PM
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Conjugal Burning

I like your hoodie Reed

BeHice starstarstarstarstar Sun 6/1/2008 03:57PM
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BeHice

Great review, Knibbs!

Especially great job catching so much for one writer.

sfs03 starstar Sun 6/1/2008 04:54PM
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Can anyone send in an article/review to possibly be put on jambase.com? After reading this article, I'm pretty sure this guy is not a paid writer. I was excited for an in-depth summercamp review but was not impressed! On a positive note, the pictures are great and maybe Norman should have written the review as well....naked chicks should not be a reason that a show was good, I deeply enjoy the flaming lips albums but the music and waynes voice sounded awful to me and the other people I was with.

cuttyfives Sun 6/1/2008 05:29PM
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torn&treyed Sun 6/1/2008 06:18PM
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"glad to hear to hear the hatred of umphreys" I mean are you serious man..... I happen to think their technical prowess is unrivaled by any touring bands at this particular time and thats cool if you don't like them but your glad other people hate them............. In fact I dont think you ever post anything positive..... don't bother responding to me I will not be checking this thread again. I mean I guess you can but I wont see it, so why dont you go type furiously. And just to shatter any other delusions you may have I'm about 6'4 210 hand to god on my mother's life so no you prob couldnt kick my ass, but hey who knows maybe your one of those agro panic fans who gets in fights at shows all the time

nsafay star Sun 6/1/2008 07:43PM
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HEY! There are agro Umphrey fans out there too! I witnessed a guy punch a girl because she was calling him out for selling him fake liquid at an UM show. Something I have never seen in over seventy Panic shows!

stoney2183 Sun 6/1/2008 07:49PM
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I am not a huge Umphrey's or Moe. fan, but I would watch each of those bands 1000x over before stepping foot at a flaming lips show again. The Lips are pretty much just a circus act with lots of visual distractions to keep people from realizing that the music sucks

thadbosetti Sun 6/1/2008 09:07PM
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What ever happened to the music? Who gives a rats ass about some washed up tripped out rolling around in a ball with lasers and titties sucking all of the tripped out people in like a bug zapper? It just blows my mind that someone could goto a show where they KNOW the music is mediocre, just for some whack job to spout off about the Government and UFO's who looks stupid in front of pulsating rainbows? SHEEESH. Where has the musicianship gone? I guess my repetitive bands set the bar way too high as far as technicality and being on point goes. DOWN WITH MEDIOCRE MUSIC! hahahah

Lastly, am I the only one who gets off on improvisation and punctuality? Thank you UM and moe. for doing what you do best. I love the professionalism of these two bands. It makes me keep coming back for more. Summercamp will always be my favorite festival, not only because of its size, but because of the copious amounts of people that I knew there. It honestly was amazing knowing everyone who was camping around you. (30 tents) Good music and Good people. BIG shoutout to everyone at MIDWESTpeeps for taking care of everyone real well and USTORM for rallying the troops and getting those kids into music school. (Another thing that I cant believe wasn't covered)You guys are amazing people and I love what you do for the community. Thank you Barry for the BB and Al acoustic set. You rule. We seriously have a compilation of the most genuine people, it truly blows my mind that so many good people can all get together for one cause, to promote live and local music. GO SEE SOME LIVE MUSIC NOW!

divisions06 Sun 6/1/2008 10:21PM
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haha damn.. all i know is i had a hell of a time a summercamp and im sure you all did too whoever you went to see. no need to make shit personal.

knibbs starstarstarstarstar Mon 6/2/2008 09:04AM
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scottwr5 Mon 6/2/2008 09:58AM
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KNIBBS! What up!

-Steez really needs to be mentioned here. One of the best acts I saw all weekend. "Robot Rock" opener melted faces.

Heady Mon 6/2/2008 10:30AM
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it says somebody did a 2 live crew cover of ass and titties....last time i checked that was 3-6 mafia that sang that song. guess 2 live coulda done it first but i never herd it by them

gmoo Mon 6/2/2008 11:02AM
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COME TOGETHER LIKE AN ANIMAL. I WANNA **** YOU OVER ME. UMPHREY'S MCGEE IN 2008. DON'T BE LATE!

granola Mon 6/2/2008 12:53PM
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I was at this festival and both umphreys and the flaming lips sucked ass. Gave em both a chance but could only stay for a few songs by both bands before i couldnt take any more of it. STS9 and Hot buttered rum stole the weekend

thadbosetti Mon 6/2/2008 02:48PM
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Maybe Jambase should assign 3 or 4 people to seperate acts (musicthe writers prefer)because I'm sure that they d00dpassed a shit ton of people to this fest. Its not that your writing is that terrible (Maybe 10th grade level), its that this isn't an accurate reproduction of the fest. People sit at work all day in their cubicles and want to read something cool. S maybe assign a few more people to the writings, and wait like a week or two to put it on here. It would be amazing to read 3 or 4 1200 word essays each giving the reader a different aspects of the fest. Not one thing was mentioned about the Concious Experience tent and the magnificent things that were done there, or nothing about USTORM getting 5 kids into music school. Or Rock the Earth or Headcount or anything. Its these people that make the world go round. Although summercamp isn't voicing its appeal to the community, it does a damn good job. Im a nice guy, im not trying to piss anyone off, but when I click on the Summercamp article, I want to be transported there like many writers have the ability to do. Im sure some people would like to know all of the organizations and non-profit groups that participated and what they contributed to Scamp. I just feel Jambase needs to set the bar a little higher than it has been as of late. Im a huge advocate of what they do and how they support live and local music, but sometimes enough is enough.

gmoo Mon 6/2/2008 03:26PM
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I have a problem, Knibbs, with the fact that you called a bunch of jambase posters kids and or children. Are you saying that everyone who didn't like your review is a child? Not everyone is going to like your writing Knibbs, but to call people out as children or kids when they clearly aren't is going to worsen your situation. Who do you expect to respect your writing now?

cuttyfives Mon 6/2/2008 05:22PM
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rivertrance420 star Mon 6/2/2008 07:00PM
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What a shitty fucking review. They might has well have let Norman Sands right the review instead. Even after 12 free backstage brews, Norman could have come out with a more comprehensible,and better review than that. I'm not impressed with anything but the dank photos.

thadbosetti Mon 6/2/2008 09:40PM
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Yea, I just ignored the kids/children comment, good way to gain respect. Usually when people post things like that, they are dumbfounded with themselves and can't give any other explanation as to why something they wrote got the reviews and critique it got. But that is why it takes special people to write these reviews. I know I hate being put on the spot.

johnnyblaze36 Mon 6/2/2008 11:01PM
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moe. doesn't have a song called "Airplane"...Panic does. I'm guessing maybe "Plane Crash" was played? Anyway, sweet ass pics...weak sauce review, as mentioned. I do need to get my hands on that Ha Ha the Moose set. Sounds dirty.

Patrick3 Tue 6/3/2008 01:20AM
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thanks spreadhed

garbaz starstarstar Tue 6/3/2008 07:00AM
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Two of my favorite bands in the world are UMPH and the Lips. Isn't music supposed to be the one uniting force on this planet?

Ripping that Lips show like it was the worst ever? Come on. You seen worse. You know it. It wasn't bad. In fact, it was good.

The stages are a short walk ... 10 minutes. The sets didn't overlap THAT much. iF U don't dig, move.

Let's face it, we see a lot of the same type of bands at a lot of these festivals. Diveristy is good. Weird props and nakedness? Come on? Aren't we taking overselves and our natural human body a little too serious? Why should anyone give a _uck?

I have worked with (directing the video screens/VJing) the Lips a few times and working with Wayne and CO. is like working with Willie Wonka. In a good way. They always gave me artistic freedom to mix whatever I wanted, including a feed from them. That is amazing. Trust.

Lastly, "Yoshimi" is a masterpiece. One hell of a record. Ask the guys in moe. if they agree ... it influenced some of the stuff we all listen to.

Ian has grown Summer Camp into a kick ass festival.

I DVJ'ed in the late night eco tent this year and played classic dance and funk and fun stuff. The vibe was fantastic. Smiles everywhere. But the point I am trying to make is I had fun playing all kinds of different shit and people grooved on ...

On our I-pods having metal next bluegrass ain't that uncommon. I spun "James Brown" back to back to "Soggy Bottom Boys" and the crowd, all kinds of ages and races out there, didn't miss a beat.

Isn't music supposed to be the one uniting force on this planet?

We all need to consider taking a step back and laughing at the props and rolling with the punches when "an artist" goes off ...

Music should be fun.

Lighten up. If you think it's a 3 ring circus, smile at the clown man.

DAMONCORY starstarstarstarstar Tue 6/3/2008 08:21AM
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I had a great time my 1st year! We saw a bunch of great music, and the place was set up perfectly. The vibe was good overall, with only a few shady people. The only problem is the long ass drive from Minneapolis, I probably wont go back unless they get a really stellar lineup for next year. If you can make it... Highly recomended.

zzonephan starstarstar Tue 6/3/2008 08:54AM
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zzonephan

Anyone else remember leaving a preachy lips show and hearing divisions playing as we headed towards umph! STS9's set was fire, pure fire...you missed out by going to girltalk. No mention of pfunks set or tlg? That last night of moe was great but no mention of their sets for the first few days??

Amazing festi overall, see you all next year

if anyone who was sitting outside the gates to the late night badfish show strung out as shit singing along to everyword with me, that was amazing...forsure one of the greatest moments of my life when security realized we werent going away and we certainly werent going to pay for tickets so he let us in

r0llingst0ned starstarstarstarstar Tue 6/3/2008 10:24AM
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I've never seen the Flaming Lips before and I thought they were pretty decent at Summer Camp this year. Now I'm not one to talk shit about bands I don't like, but it seems that Umphrey's fans don't mind doing it, so here goes: I've seen UM three or four times now and I just don't get it. They are talented musicians, I'll give 'em that, so WHY, whenever they finally get into a good jam, do they switch to metal 10 seconds later? I've given them enough chances, FUCK UMPHREY'S MCGEE. They are for 16 year olds and frat boys!!

Tehsay starstarstarstarstar Tue 6/3/2008 01:37PM
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Im not even going to touch that one rollingstone....my god...

as for the article, it was very poorly written with little actual insight on the music. Yeah, we get it: the lips were "amazing." tbh wayne's voice was far too shot for me to actually enjoy it. Is this amateur hour now jambase or whaaaat?

I do agree with him though on Girl Talk being really, really fun. Like, real fun.

timmy130 starstarstar Tue 6/3/2008 07:16PM
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i think jambase could probably send a couple more people to summercamp. Many music enthusiasts would have written an article for free. This guy only saw "Shine On" which was awesome, but how can you miss an evening set from a band like Umphreys that has helped make this festival what it is. That set was nasty, i.e. Divisions, dbk. On Saturday, the article writer "featured the rest of his evening with pieces of... moe.". Not enough on moe. Also, sts9 kicked ass considering the timely sunlight and no chance at a light show. Alright article, but just as last year, not enought coverage.

Also, any ideas on whats gunna happen next year? Im thinking Golberg might give umph 3 days until moe. is back. Peace friends. Summercamp is sweet.

timmy130 Tue 6/3/2008 07:36PM
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Also, thank you Chadsmi for those pics. Brings some hazy moments back.

Yamitai Wed 6/4/2008 01:40AM
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Yamitai

Lotus is a good band.

chwick42o Wed 6/4/2008 09:27AM
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Can anyone post their experience seeing Banyan, I havent seen a scamp review yet. Here in Denver they blow the roof off clubs like Cervantes and I have always been impressed by their improv, but wondered their affect on a festival stage? S. Perkins is a god! Waldman always puts me in a good mood:)

rlu725 starstarstar Wed 6/4/2008 10:32AM
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I had a great time except someone stole my car keys out of my tent among other things, thats pretty shady. but in the end it all worked out somehow they got turned in and i made it home. Sts9, p-funk, hott buttered rum, and sub-id are just a few that really caught my attention. I am really thankful for the amazing people i had the opportunity to meet!

schofizzl Wed 6/4/2008 02:53PM
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okay i just found another line that really pisses me off... "Their set was good, but to a hardcore Blind Melon fan it could have come off as a glorified cover band." ......... you really are a turd for insulting the bandmembers of blind melon like that... to a hardcore blind melon fan it was completely amazing to see the band stompin' ass just as strong as ever.. so shannon's not in the band, guess what, lots of musicians die and/or get replaced and the bands go on. if the chili peppers had quit when hillel slovak died, they'd just be a small note of 80's music, instead they went on and found frusciante and became arguably the biggest band of the last 20 years. blind melon rules with or without shannon hoon, and you, knibbs, do not.

joselave starstarstarstar Thu 6/5/2008 08:00AM
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Wow, kind of funny that everyone here is bashing the flaming lips but they still all went to watch them. Even the guy THAT HAS SEEN THEM 5 TIMES. Little hint, don't go see a band 5 times if you don't like them and then complain about them.

I actually went to see them and thought they put on a great SHOW. The music was decent but the whole show aspect was awesome, like usual. That is what you should expect with them.

But by far the best band had to be HaHa The Moose. Awesome. They had naked chicks as well.

The naked chicks were actually Jeager Girls. I ran into them late Saturday night in the VIP tent. They said they were the ones on stage, I said i didn't recognize them b/c they were clothed. Without me even asking, they pulled there shirts up. Awesome.

VIP TENT RULES!!!!

colonel star Thu 6/5/2008 01:53PM
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Wow knibbs, you really blew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TINAfarina Thu 6/5/2008 02:11PM
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TINAfarina

why no talk of moe.? this is their festie and all. weak sauce.

memphoboz Fri 6/6/2008 01:56PM
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SugaMag starstar Fri 6/6/2008 05:47PM
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Beautiful weekend. Review missed the mark. Umphrey's was amaaaazing, way better than last year. Shine on You Crazy Diamond was purrrrrfect. STS9 thank you for the Circus as the sun came out. Been waiting to hear that for a while. Was first sad abt the day show, but even thought before their set trying to be positive, ya know they may pull out a Circus bc that would be beautiful during the daytime..and what do ya know! Moe of course blew minds. Similar feelings on Flaming Lips as most other comments, was nice eye candy but as far as making festi memories, I prefer those unforgettable moments of just complete and utter musical bliss that are just ingrained in your memory forever.... Summercamp gave me a lot of those :)

four20man starstarstarstar Sat 6/7/2008 03:33PM
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GREAT FESTIVAL! Def sets the bar higher each year.

The Roots tore it up, though. ?uestlove took me to school on that drum solo.

Cornmeal's late night set around the campfire was UNFORGETTABLE! So beautiful! It was the best way to end the festival. (If anyone has this set, please email me at mp420@hotmail.com)

Of course, summercamp wouldn't be complete with a sever T-storm warning, (Tornadoes! AHHH!)

This was my 6th Summercamp, and IMO, it was THE BEST!

Good job pat. There's so much good music it's hard to write about them all at once.

Ching starstarstarstarstar Sun 6/8/2008 01:21AM
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The LEE BOYS were good

palace1 starstar Mon 6/9/2008 09:32AM
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palace1

left sts9 for girl talk warming up....???

osullivan856 star Tue 6/10/2008 08:33AM
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This was my third time seeing Blind Melon this year, and they keep getting better each time. Having witnessed Shannon Hoon live I can assure you that Travis is the real deal and this band WILL continue making great music. The vibe is definitely there, the spirit is there and I challenge anyone who enjoyed Blind Melon music in the 90's to tell me different.

Next BM shows, Lincoln Park Zoo on July 25th. Libertyville, IL on July 26th. Can't wait!

goose31285 starstarstar Tue 6/10/2008 09:39PM
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this was my second summer camp and i gotta say i was pretty apprehensive of the lineup this year. but it was definitly good, at least as good as last year although i honestly liked moe.'s sets better last year (who remembers the disgusting 18 min. rec chem from sunday in '07??)

this year the sickest night i think was sunday; ill agree with the reviewer on not coming down>wormwood>sync that was nice...also moth, mcbain, rebubula.

not really a fan of the umphrey's-clone their sound is becoming tho (wtf was with the friggin disco jam on sat. this year???) i know a lot of you will hate on this but im just not really an umphreak.

anyways i think me and a lot of others thought the flaming lips were LAME-SAUCE and it remains a mystery to me why their appearing so heavily on the jamband circuit this year.

also the new pornographers sucked monkey balls and was the lamest show ive ever heard at a festival BAR NONE!

what i was digging though was THE AMAZING late night hot buttered rum and cormeal sets. they friggin blew my mind and i danced my ass off.

george and the roots were SICK...coming into the festi not really knowing much roots i was impressed.

also really liked what i caught of TLG, daytime 'meal and rum, and umph's shine on...

junglist starstarstarstar Thu 6/12/2008 10:52AM
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Summer Camp was off the chain. Umphrey's friday set was awesome, that nine inch nails/ aerosmith mash up was great. moe. was amazing as usual. Saturday night was wild the VIP tent never stopped dancing. I drove half way across the country for that festival for the last three years and I will do it again next year

Bryan24 Mon 6/16/2008 12:08PM
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Summer Camp was amazing. junglist i'm pretty sure it was NIN/ The Beatles not aerosmith. it was called come closer and it was sick.

S to the P starstarstar Thu 6/19/2008 10:50AM
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For my first Summer Camp experience, I will say that I'm glad this was my first. I was amazed and blown away not only with the bands but with the fellowship and community I felt while I was there. I've never felt so welcomed in my whole life.

I've never danced that much either.

Well done Summer Camp, well done.

Mule86 Fri 7/25/2008 11:17AM
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I am Trying to stay positive and non-offensive:

1. The Lips are a Visual act(like they have always been) VS. UM, whom is focused on sound engineering and performance...I saw the Lips show,(I'd never seen them before)and thought it was pretty powerful(Wayne was tearing up on stage). I have nothing but respect for UM..but tend to choose certain favorites of mine over UM,when the time calls for it.

2. I am a huge STS9 fan, so I obviously saw the amazing show. However,I did hear the Girl Talk show from my tent..when the V.I.P. late night show occurred. I thought it was awesome as well

3. Family Groove Company late night show was incredible, hands down! I did enjoy the U-Melt/Future rock dance parties as well.

4. Dumpstaphunk threw down and were in my opinion, better than P-funk (whom were great, but not as great as Ivan and his crew IMHO).

5. My other favorite shows included: Hot Buttered Rum, Chicago Afrobeat Project, 56 Hope Road, The Hue, Tea Leaf Green, Cornmeal,The Station,Macpodz, Steez and Zmick.

ol92fordtempo Fri 8/1/2008 12:11PM
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summercamp was awesome, cant wait for next year... the umphrees vs. flaming lips argument is so pointless they are VERY different bands. I like them both but i WILL say the flaming lips performance was one for the ages.

shaaayna Sat 8/23/2008 01:03PM
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god, summercamp sounds INCREDIBLE. that was an amazing lineup they had.

anyone notice that in the picture of reed mathis and josh clark, reed kind of looks like a burn victim? :x

i am definitely going to try to get there next year.

snausages Tue 10/28/2008 05:34AM
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snausages

ah summercamp...twas very very delightful.

I've come back to review here almost 5 months later - it was SUCH an awesome weekend. We camped in the most perfect spot (Purp Haze). Can't wait until next year.

In a Big Country Wed 12/17/2008 02:03AM
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In a Big Country

Cant wait they're announcing next years summer camp On Jan 1st with a preliminary lineup