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Eric was studying world music in California while Judd was playing in bands in Indiana. It only made sense for Judd to quit school and move out west. The two brothers spent a year in isolation coming out with a full length CD/demo and took it to Los Angeles. Sean moved out from Indiana shortly after and the three played for over a year in L.A. as a three piece. Ivan played on and off with Stampead until finally quitting his active sexlife to tour with the band.