Stream G N'R's "Chinese Dem"

Guns N' Roses Stream "Chinese Democracy" - Hear It Now

As we've been talking about, the long-awaited Guns N' Roses release Chinese Democracy (Black Frog/Geffen Records) will be available globally on November 23 on CD and vinyl (accompanied by a free digital download of the tracks), and as a separate digital album.

Produced by Axl Rose and Caram Costanzo, Chinese Democracy includes 14 tracks. The title track and first single from the album, "Chinese Democracy," was released to radio earlier today. Two of the recordings have been recently released - "Shackler's Revenge" debuted September 14 in the "Rock Band 2" videogame and "If The World" debuted October 11 in the film Body Of Lies.

Was it worth the wait? Check out the song "Chinese Democracy" right now and use the Comments Section to let us know:

[Published on: 10/22/08]

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mikemac9317 Wed 10/22/2008 10:55AM
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kirkbrew Wed 10/22/2008 10:58AM
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Wow - simply amazing! I have only heard about ten-thousand things like it before (as opposed to a million). I was expecting it to be much, much worse.

RichardHaley Wed 10/22/2008 11:04AM
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I'm with kirkbrew - maybe even a bit more supportive. I wasn't expecting much, but man, this sounds pretty damn good. That guitar work is wicked, the intro is dark and weird with strange voices, and it sounds like Guns N' Roses – big and bad ass with chunky power chords and that fuckin' voice. I suspect anyone who was/is a fan of this band will at least like this song. Rawking.

JBL Wed 10/22/2008 11:14AM
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Not as bad as I thought... but, it would have been a lot cooler in '93.

joey mgmt starstar Wed 10/22/2008 11:18AM
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joey mgmt

that was horrible

iwantstogetfunkedup Wed 10/22/2008 11:19AM
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The middle of that guitar solo is pretty damn sick. I'll give it that. Otherwise fairly mediocre song. That guitar style sounds like Buckethead. Anyone know if thats him on this track?

NittyGritty starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/22/2008 11:23AM
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I see why i took so long to come out. This is terrible.

The J-man Wed 10/22/2008 11:24AM
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The J-man

That's what people have been waiting for?

RichardHaley Wed 10/22/2008 11:30AM
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In regards to Buckethead: I was thinking the same thing, that nasty ass guitar part sounds exactly like Bucketfreak, does anyone know for sure? Man, like I said, if you ever liked Guns i don't know how you wouldn't like this... i was expecting more like "Illusions" ballad kinda crap, this is much meaner and dirtier than expected... maybe not "Appetite" worthy, but not far off.

linsbee314 star Wed 10/22/2008 11:32AM
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The guitar solos aren't bad, but the lyrics are super lame. I agree that maybe this would've been better 15 years ago, but these days I'm kind of over the whole strategy to "sing as loud and deep into the microphone as possible and repeat the same chorus line over and over again b/c the other lyrics suck" thing.

vollostcom Wed 10/22/2008 11:35AM
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no thanks....and i am not sure but i dont think it is buckethead with them this time around, saw him the other nite with "that one guy" phucking phenomenol

phishinpanic Wed 10/22/2008 11:47AM
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Too bad Axl and his obsessive compulsive multiple personalities will be too freaked out to actually take the stage and go on tour.

a_side33 Wed 10/22/2008 11:54AM
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I think this song is horrible and its nothing new. New ideas are where its at...when these guys are barely thinking for themselves it seems. This sounds uninspired and very unimaginative. This doesnt push any boundaries at all especially for what axel claimed it to be for the past 8 years. hah. Im all for good feeling music too that doesnt have to push boundaries but this is elementary and taking a step back for them. They need to let it rest, appetite and illusion would have been a legacy without this nonsense.

doobliebop star Wed 10/22/2008 12:02PM
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GNR - Slash = Not worth my time.

Velvet Revolver is more GNR than this nonsense.

OurBandCouldBeYourLife Wed 10/22/2008 12:08PM
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Pretty darn boring I'd say. I heard "It Don't Come Easy" come onto K-rock in NY a few days back and I got really excited cause I hadn't heard it in awhile and forgot how badass it was, it brought me back to 7th grade. This track is missing that energy that made the original GnR so ballsy.

ickysac Wed 10/22/2008 12:18PM
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I give it a C+. Sounds a lot like Corrosion of Conformity.

C00lmike Wed 10/22/2008 12:24PM
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Man, that's the best song I've heard in the past five minutes!

moemoe6434 star Wed 10/22/2008 12:37PM
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Don't stream it.... Axle will sue you!

kaydubs star Wed 10/22/2008 12:46PM
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fuck you axl your ruined a great thing

Ilikephish531 Wed 10/22/2008 01:03PM
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as for the buckethead thing, yes it's him. he's actually one of the biggest reasons the album took so long, on a count of him dissappearing from the studio back in 02ish. It's got brain on drums as well. and for fuck's sake people, if you don't care for guns n roses in the first place you wont like this, so shut the hell up. I dont see you all on the michael mcdonald boards saying his new album sucks, because you don't like him in the first place. so once again, shut the hell up. go diddle yourselfs to some bisco and save yourselfs the typing because very, very few people care what you think.

happydestiny starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/22/2008 01:14PM
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Thank you ilikephish! As for the song not sounding appetiteish, well good. bands do evolve and sounds do change, I mean it is what fifteen years later?> so to expect the same sound is absurd. Rock on GNR

braden Wed 10/22/2008 01:53PM
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Too bad too, Appetite is one of my fav's. Sounds like too much studio time and second guessing/tweaking, too overworked.

I like Axl's voice, not layers of Axl's modulated voice.

I don't think this should be called G'n'R; it's not the same band.

They should call this New G'n'R and then reunite the original band and call it G'n'R Classic.

moephishH2O star Wed 10/22/2008 02:00PM
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I was SEVEN when Appetite for Destruction was released. Back to the '80's, Axl, BACK!

Toastponcho starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/22/2008 02:06PM
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What a waste. I'm an enormous fan of the best rock & roll band from the 80's call GNR. Not this crap. Nothing wrong with him releasing some crappy pop music. I wish he would just name the band Axl's Roses or something. This is really insulting to the band & it's fans.

btw...I love Buckethead & he left the band cause Axl is an a-hole. I cant argue with that logic

Cola21 Wed 10/22/2008 02:09PM
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I guess here's the deal: technically, that song isn't bad. It's decent. I'm not a GnR afficiando - who is the deep voice on that song? I thought Axl was the lead? I barely heard him throughout the whole song. The bigger issue is that, since it took this long for the record to come out, you would have thought that maybe it would have been a bit more innovative or kick-in-the-nuts good. I love the intro and the guitar, but the rest didn't really go anywhere. Hopefully the rest of the cd lives up to the potential this song had. But on the whole, disregarding everything but this track, it's a decent song.

Cola21 Wed 10/22/2008 02:42PM
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Apparently, it's all Axl. Serves me right for not doing my research.

jwatson8388 star Wed 10/22/2008 02:49PM
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fucking sucks

patt010303 starstarstar Wed 10/22/2008 02:59PM
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definitely not worth the wait

schofizzl Wed 10/22/2008 03:06PM
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yeah so now axl has almost completely abandoned the only thing that made him worthy of attention (his high screaming voice) in an effort to sound more like every other shitty band out there today... this is definitely a ploy to sell records. i hope this axl album falls flat on its face, long live GnR! SLASH IS GNR! long live SLAAAAASSSHHHH!

pugs689 star Wed 10/22/2008 03:07PM
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JamBase... please delete this article.

1974morey Wed 10/22/2008 03:28PM
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OK, since Chinese Democracy is coming out in 2008, where is my free Dr.Pepper?

crgeorge Wed 10/22/2008 03:37PM
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Yep the free Dr. Pepper is the best part of this release. Thanks for the soda Axl.


1. On the Nov. 23, 2008 release date, go to

2. Register your information to receive a coupon for one free 20-oz. Dr


3. When your coupon arrives, redeem it wherever Dr Pepper is sold.

4. Drink your Dr Pepper slowly to experience all 23 flavors. Dr's


philhitz Wed 10/22/2008 03:46PM
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i wonder what mc hammer is up to

moecheeseplease Wed 10/22/2008 03:57PM
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this site is one dimensional and its pissing me off. aren't phish phans supposed to be "open minded people"?

jesposito Wed 10/22/2008 04:13PM
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looks like they need to hit the studio for another 13 years!

EFinley starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/22/2008 04:21PM
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The production is great. The sound is better than most of the stuff on your typical clearchannel radio station. The songwriting is, however, simply mediocre.

I'm sure eighth graders who don't know better yet will eat this stuff up. Maybe it will turn them on to Appetite, or the less amazing but still good Use Your Illusions.

Roswellznutsack Wed 10/22/2008 04:33PM
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Hurls Wed 10/22/2008 04:50PM
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I liked old GNR, but this song is crap.

pokey917 Wed 10/22/2008 05:04PM
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It's a good rock song. I was not expecting Axl to reinvent the wheel. I can't stand Axl - I was at the show in Philly when he decided not to show and watch the Rangers game in New York instead. So, while I will never spend money on a ticket for a concert, I thought the song was a good rock song. It was not any worse than the bullshit album Metallica just put out. Good job Axl, but get slash back on the night train before I spend money on a guns ticket!!!

barnburner Wed 10/22/2008 05:13PM
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Good song, phenomenal guitar & production work. Good to have Axl back! All the haters are funny, further proving the jam scene isn't enlightened, but a breeding ground for needlessly opinionated douchebags w/no musical vocabulary.

Hug Wed 10/22/2008 05:34PM
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Nothing too original. I like the guitar solo but I feel the rest of the song lacks creativity. Probably will be a #1 hit...

I'll have to see how the rest of the album sounds before I totally trash it.

Flyingbird73 Wed 10/22/2008 06:08PM
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There seems to be a large misconception that GnR was the greatest rock band of the 80's when there has to be legions of Iron Maiden fans that would (justifiably) disagree. I can't believe we're even discussing this rubbish today. Then again, I can't believe I just dropped a Maiden reference.

SmashySmashy star Wed 10/22/2008 06:35PM
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Dr. Pepper... Corn syrup, food coloring and carbonated bath water. Seems like it would go well with a gn'r album.

marley9 Wed 10/22/2008 06:42PM
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So you want us for Use Your Illusion? Actually, some band has the rights to that title so I was thinking about calling it Use Your Illusion II.

Rivertrancer star Wed 10/22/2008 06:51PM
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I wish I had that 4 minutes of my life back. Expectattions were very high after the long wait, and they seriously dissappointed. Garbage.

dangeorgio starstar Wed 10/22/2008 09:34PM
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Axl, seriously? I mean it sounds like you really spent a lot of time on the intro, which is rather unfortunate because it is ABSOLUTE CRAP. That cheesy guitar kick [tease] is timed terrible. Not to mention the stupid atmospheric effects in the background. And what the hell is with those effects? Sounds kinda like Axl firing up the torch and about to melt down some meth.

damnisaidso Thu 10/23/2008 12:38AM
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"Shackler's Revenge" debuted September 14 in the "Rock Band 2" videogame and "If The World" debuted October 11 in the film Body Of Lies. Maybe they are better? I mean I like GNR. I do. But this ain't November and it ain't Raining.

Coconut Phil starstarstar Thu 10/23/2008 03:37AM
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Coconut Phil

Geez. this is what took so long? This is junk, what a load of garbage. This was worse then I thought, I love my G&R, I was jamming my ass off in the 80's to them. This album is already a flop, don't look for a world tour. Axel is the loser of the week. See you in Charleston tomorrow night Panic freaks.

fiveyrold Thu 10/23/2008 05:02AM
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Better than the Spaghetti Incident- maybe,like ickysac said- It Sounds Like a rip off of Corrosion of Conformity, Which is a better band than this shit. Axle Should have come out with this in the 90's maybe people would actually give a shit- instead of think it's shit

kirkbrew Thu 10/23/2008 09:00AM
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"I wish I had that 4 minutes of my life back." Funny shit!

I have to admit, I only got 2:45 invested in it.

10SEJED Thu 10/23/2008 09:25AM
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wow! tour!! Phish Who? Man that was intense! The 2 min. wipeout intro with the talking and ambient sounds over it!! Breath taking!

stoops Thu 10/23/2008 09:51AM
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fuckin gay!

gratefuled starstar Thu 10/23/2008 10:35AM
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OK - this is NOT Guns and Roses. This band should change their name to Nails N' Roses. I like NIN and Finck and Axl still sound pretty good (minus the head trips). This tune sounds nothing like the GNR of old (obviously without Slash, how could it?) - but it doesn't necessarily suck by today's radio standards. Its commercial, its Axl and it isn't any worse than the other commercial metal/rock out there right now.

I'll just stick with Appetite, Lies and Illusion I and II and call it a day.

phish_420 Thu 10/23/2008 12:14PM
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Everyone is saying it wasn't worth the wait, was anyone actually waiting for this? I loved GNR in 7th grade (Used to rock the Use your illusion shirt) just like everyone else, I am not really digging the new Axl and roses, buckethead does not have the feel of Slash. Anyone who was alive (or maybe a teenager) when classics like "you could be mine" were released they really spoke to our teenage angst. I have to hear the rest of the album although I am sure it is just as dissapointing.

wetchabs star Thu 10/23/2008 02:36PM
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Who cares about an Axl Rose solo album..........

OrangeGrass starstarstar Thu 10/23/2008 03:16PM
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its really not that bad, its not great tho. kinda sounds like a black sabbath/rob zombie mix

MyFavBandIsTheBestYoursSucks Fri 10/24/2008 10:11AM
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"further proving the jam scene isn't enlightened, but a breeding ground for needlessly opinionated douchebags w/no musical vocabulary." I would have said it better myself, but I couldnt.

corocker starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/24/2008 07:08PM
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This rocks. It's not the best tune though, i have heard all the leaks, and there are some classic cuts - Catcher in the rye is awesome... Better would have been a "better" single... i dig this though. I'm buying it!

"Axl is magic" - Brian May

drbell Sat 10/25/2008 09:35AM
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it's ok...but 13 years or whatever? wtf? hopefully there are better tracks on there.

homerbrett Thu 11/6/2008 10:40AM
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That song was nothing worth the wait, but it was as good as the worse GnR songs were...let's face it they had some great songs (used to love her, is still my fav from them), but also some very mediocre songs even back in the day. So all in all, this is alright.


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