UMPH & BISCO IN JAMAICA

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Are the 'treats' all inclusive as well? :)

I thought VIP concert sections were for yuppy fu*@sticks, but this is getting out of hand. Jamaican resorts? Doesn't sound truly "super-inclusive" if you have to spend a thousand dollars just to get there.

WHOA.

wow i wish i had a job like these guys. it would nice to be sitting around one day and say "hey let's play some shows in jamaica". on the fan side of things, it sounds like a blast, but a little too expensive for me.

yo kangaroo i hear ya, i mean thats great and all but tix start going on sale in may, fuck that, im in school, i need more time to prepare than that. but hopefully ill be there and not do NYE. and it will be fun for those there

Yuppy fu*@sticks? Sorry roo, in case you haven't noticed, many of the shows that you have attended are a microcosm of society. Some people earn a nice living doing whatever it is that they do. Success does not make one a fu*@stick?

I loved knowing that Senator Leahy and Bill Walton were in the crowd at some Dead shows.

See you at the Miami airport holding your finger high beggin' for that miracle!

Bill Walton went to somewhere around 500 Dead shows, Phallus.
P.S. You probably are a fu*@stick.

Everyone settle down... Smiles!

Kangaroo is just jealous. He won't be bitchin' when some yuppy f'stick doctor has to give him a triple bypass in 30 years. Trust me. It's nice to know that there are people at festivals like Kangaroo who will judge me by the color of my wristband. Way to show community bro!!!

I'll be attending and I'm not well off by an means, BUT this kid surley knows how to hustle :-)

bottom line... you do whatcha' gotta do to, to do whatcha' wanna do!

This is not a bad deal at all. 900 bucks(the cheapest) for 4 days in a Jamaican resort!!! This is to see the shows, room, food, drinks, and all other activities.

Ill be there for sure. . camping is fun and all, but has nothing on a Jamaican resort.

community is the point. by physically separating people based on "importance" we end up with separated community. not to mention that i often see the VIP section near the front of the stage at festivals and during the daytime its practically empty because the VIPs are too busy sleeping in their air conditioned RVs (broad generality i know) thereby separating fans from the band. many of the bands have said on stage that this is weird and/or unacceptable. and im not jealous. i just think people who buy VIP passes are fucksticks and the idea of having a concert at Jamaican resorts is just an extension of the VIP section.

you can be successful without being a yuppy fuckstick

This sounds incredible, lucky for those who can go.

Having extra money makes you a yuppy fuckstick?? I dont see how that works, money = yuppy?? save your cash buddy. i save my money to go to shows and i have never been in vip at a festy. but i can save money to go to jamaica, its all about priorities.

enough with all of these people on jambase who make fun of other people. Enough of the "seperating" people do on this message board about certain people's favorite bands and how other bands "suck" and how those fans with few dollars are angry at those who have more dollars, blah, blah, blah... Music is for the heart and soul, jam band musicians do not sing about gats cappin' homies and bitches gettin' the clap and rapein' ho's and killin' other homies and all of that cruel tough guy bullshit, jamband musicians sing about good vibes and real emotions and the glory of dancing and traveling and making love, but soooo many Biscuit, Umphreys, STS9 fans love to say really mean adolescent opinions on this message board. Those folks should stop acting like dirty rotten bastards. This festival looks amazing, I hope I can make it to Jamaica, it falls on my birthday (dec. 14) but if I cannot go I am cool with that, I can see these bands again, they tour constantly, almost all year round.

honestly, pull your heads out of your asses and do some research. i am as a travel agent and 900 dollars to go to jamaica for 4 days with AIRFARE in december (a pretty prime month for warm-weather destinations) ALL INCLUSIVE is a really good deal! add to that the shows, and you're talkin a really really good deal. that being said, i won't be going cause it's a little out of my price range, but still, a really good deal...you can easily drink 100 dollars a day if you want...

my bad, haha, airfare is extra, im the ass...but still not a bad deal

damn good deal...if these bands are your bag...not mine...but it should be an awesome time for all in attendance

"Are the 'treats' all inclusive as well? :)
-Gmoo you are officially the biggest custy on jambase...
....and everyone is right. Unless you are single, a proffessional, or a dealer , you cannot afford shit like this.

im in like flynn. biscuits in jamaica? all inclusive? 'nuff said.

This sounds like tha tits... i realy wanted to go to jamcruise but i blew all my money on h@@kers, redemtion song!! 3 night of bisco in paradise...bomb.com' time to renew my passport...and look for my piggy bank and crak that sh!t open... ThIS festival is definatly for ppl who make easy $ pimpin whoes in style, or ppl who who work hard (without hoes) that want to pimp it super hard- p.s i would drink 200$ of booze a day

A big fuck yeah to SLAPPY and to up the ante I could see an easy 225 tab for me

Damn, this sounds awesome, too bad it's so expensive and during finals week! If only it were a week later I might try to get the money together for it.

Let's hope the Biscuits get added to JitD!

I'm upset with Keller and the Duo for taking part in shit like this. It's not surprising that a "festival" (I prefer to call it an all-call for trust-afarians and whatever else scum has enough money to go to jamaica to see horrible jam wannabe trite bullshit) of this sort is eliciting such negative commentary as seen above. Umphrees and Bisco represent to me all that is wrong with this new-age jam scene. All Umphrees is is damn Phish with a twist of prog-rock, and all Bisco is is damn electro-new-age-get-fucked-up-on-mollie-ex-whatever on your momma's bill bullshit. You sick fucks who are going to this are doing nothing to help anything. Enjoy.

funkmeup you are a straight up fuckin loser. shut up. thats all i cant really say cuz you're just an idiot, and i dont care if u reply back cuz i will still think you are fucking dumb so that's it, im done here

funkmeup and groovinkangaroo will be sharing a tent at each festy this summer. They know more about the jam scene and people in general than anyone.

Both of you are probably in college (which is GREAT) ....look up attribution error. While your figuring out why your so judgemental, 800 fans will really be "funking and groovin" on a beach in Jamaica this winter.

I love you both but your misery sucks - Peace!

Me and Mark (the original bassist) from Disco Biscuits used to fish together up at the St. Lawrence every summer back in the eighties. The biggest fish he ever caught was a 42 inch northern pike, so we cooked it up that night and it rocked the mf hizzy. These guys have come a long way. They used to play my pig roasts back when all they played was classic rock covers at Phish parking lots. I still love it when the play "taking care of business". Rocks the mfing hizzy! Good thing my trust fund will cover the expenses of this Jam trip, too bad I can't take my BMW with me, daddy would be so proud!

Anybody want to throw in on a used cuban refugee raft with me? I hear the currents in December should float us right by Jamaica if we launch the raft from Tavernier, FL.

HOLY SHIT

See, what you guys are forgetting here is that people who are professionals, people who still live at home and are supported by mumsie and dadsie, people who are independently wealthy, people who are priviledged, people in Jamaica, and people who are not your clone in music taste are not entitled to go hear music. Don't you guys know that anyone who makes over $10,000/year are a bunch of trust-afarians who live off the money mom and dad give them? I mean get real people. Music is not for everyone. Music is only for some people. People who have busted their asses getting an education and getting ahead in life so they can do things like buy VIP passes and go to concerts in Jamaica are what's wrong with the world today. People who do those things are the reason everyone else can't catch up. It's all about ebb and flow. Rich people are why there are homeless and starving familes all across the world. It has nothing to do with a lack of motivation and a tank full of handouts. All you hard working, elloquent, educated butt-holes should be more like me and funkmeup. Right buddy? That's what you want right? Screw diversity! Stop pissing your money away on vehicles, homes, families, charitable donations, and stuff like that. Take your heads out of your asses you functional members of society! That about cover it, buddy? If it weren't for music lovers like us, there'd be no Nickelback. God bless America! Well--some of it anyway.

that's holy shiz, joshers, we have kids here!

Wow I give myself "thumbs up" for the above satire!

Oh and just so all you not from Georgia know, the UNIVERSITY funkmeup attends--it's a PRIVATE UNIVERSITY. Know how much those cost? Where'd you get that money homey? I suppose you got a full ride scholarship or maybe just saved your money not buying VIP passes and concert tickets to events which also offer VIP passes...

just joshin must a have a wicked nice mercedes. I myself drive a 1967 Bentley, well actually, I don't drive it, Benson does. He's my chauffer. I'm not going to this show though, Jamaica is a dump. When we get Moe. playing in the Greecian Islands I might think about it.

Mercedes are for poor people pal! I mean, my friends go to PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES for God sakes!

I was gonna go to Harvard, but let's face it, my CEO dad decided to home school me instead cause he didn't want me socializing with a bunch of low life college kids. I can't wait to inheret his throne as leader of Enron, I'm gonna make even more money and screw even more people out of their retirement savings!! Then I can buy that island I've had my eye on in the Carribeann, and build a house that the Prince of Dubai would envy. Just joshin, you're invited, as long as your daddy makes seven figures a year, I wouldn't want to stoop too low or anything...

Oh and by the way, the best band I've ever seen in Jamaica was Drums and Tuba, remember those boys? They were by far the best band at the first Bonnaroo, and even better that Fat Maw Roony.

thanks alot jimsan! tell you what--i'll even bring my waitstaff and then we can arrange our waitstaffs like chess pieces on the veranda (you do have a veranda right?) and play chess with them. can my pal funkmeup come too? since we're "doing nothing to help anything", we should just hire other rich "sick f*c*s" like us to roll around in our parent's money! super duper!
p.s.--i'll be heading to the Hampton's this weekend if you're up for a tennis tournament with my brother and sister Buffy and Muffy.

Tennis, are you kidding me? If the sport doesn't involve purebred horses and polo sticks I don't consider it. And we can play some waitstaff chess, but I'm gonna hire Gary Kasparov to help me, so good luck with that one. But me brother Felton is a good chess player, he can help you.

Kasaprov-schmasperov. Bob Fisher lives next door to me. Your're right--tennis is sooooooo upper middle class. See you in the Hamptons!

Let's have a vote:

What's worse?

The dirty, smelly, dog-toting, molly-pushing, natty ugly dreaded, stinky ole baseball cap wearing, miracle-begging, fake-acid dosing, oxycontin-riding, gross courdaroy waering, deadhead wannabees.

or

Job-having, ticket-purchasing, normal clothes wearing, beer-drinking, responsible fans.

It's a tough choice really.

JIMSAN, WELL PUT.

jimsan and joshin - the best laughs I have had on jambase in a while. I will be laughing even harder when I hover over the shows in Jamaica in my private helicopter, and bungee down just above the crowd and sprinkle gold dust on their heads.

Damn Mr. Joshin, you really did your homework on me... I'm almost flattered. Despite somewhat regretting getting so drunk and putting up that rambling bullshit post, I actually see some good in it as it produced some excellent satire. Sorry for offending anyone... and for going to college at a private university (on scholarship, since you seem so interested, Mr. Joshin).

Not a very good deal..........since you have to pay for the airfare.

For 1 person to go to Holidaze, you could almost get 2 people on Jamcruise. Hmmmm.........6 bands repeating themselves, in 1 location, and nothing to see otherwise... or 22 bands, 3 DJ's and 9 artists at large, 2 destinations, and the pleasure of rubbing elbows w/ people like George Porter Jr & Luther Dickinson?

I think its cool that umphreys is playing some sweet shit...the trancegression festival is kind of like a resort-lodge thing that i would never be able to afford and its not nearly as expensive as jamaica or jamcruise. but whatever you know? like, if your not gonna go, and you dont like the idea...its really cool and respectable to bitch about it. everyones always like FUCK BONAROO and FUCK 10K and fuck WAKARUSA. well who cares. i'm glad i dont actually see people like that at the shows. Usually i get a bad impression of somethin when i read these forums, and when i get there, fans are lovin every minute of it. most of the people who enjoy those shows dont sit here and bitch about it. or dont even read this shit. its beautiful. i hate music nazis. most of the people who sit here and bitch at this shit probably have piss ass jobs at the corner grocery store and wont go to any of these shows. and then if they do, they'll eat bunk drugs and have a shitty time.

i know i have a good time, sober or not. because i love concerts. and i wish i could go!

to quote the big lebowski: "Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?"

I'm going to start buying my E pills now.....

Bring Praxis or Material to rock face!!!!!

Wow, how are the Bisco Kids going to get their K down there? I dont think I want to know........

im hoping umphreys stays out of lolla this summer...and by the way they are from indiana not chicago, so stop riding chicagos coat tails damnit. we dont need umphreys we got plenty of other dope cats. Fareed Haque rules!

cuttyfives i have seen put that same post on every article written about um give it up!

y'all are a bunch of whiney overspoken bitches! who gives a fuck who can afford what?? the attitude on this string reminds me of someone strung out on pharmies for days, cranky bitches. heres a great happening we should all be proud of. we should be supporting this effort as a battle won in the war of jam music across the world and relish in the fact that we'll be bringin our stylie white asses to freak out jamaica rather than complain about it! we should be warriors on the positive change tip through music instead of fighting eachother and weakining the structure our predecessors worked so hard to lay down for us. if jerry read this fucking string he'd roll over in his grave! embrace positivity and change the world through good vibes and music. I hope the ghost of bob marley sees fit to shatter and rebuild the soul of each negative individual that sets foot on sacred jamaican soil.
jah live!

wow i loveeeeee jambase and the awesome kids that fight harder on the computer than they do for their own sanity.

How am I the biggest custy on jambase? Is it because I use complete sentences and have an education?

Just-Joshin, I'm sorry to say that you are a moron. Maybe you should have gone to school for a couple extra years, bro. I can't believe you are arguing against education. If it wasn't for your education you would never have the opportunity to be on this computer typing all this bull. Check out the correlation between literacy and life expectancy before opening your mouth and try to pretend to know what you are talking about. GROW OURS > GOT MINE.

Couldnt disagree more about joshin and jimsan

I halfway took a look at the posts to this article just to see all the negativity and hatin' bougenanies be puttin' up here when low-and-behold, Just Joshin comes outta nowhere with what is likely the biggest facial-smash to haters everywhere Ive ever seen.

Kudos to you, my good sir. You put up a great tell-it-like it is post and topped it off with some grade A humor as well.

And the best part of all, it was even good enough to get the hater to log back in, appoligise for his lame comments, and let us know he only said it becasue he was drunk. hey, at least you manned up enough to appologize and own up to being lame so youre ok in my book.

oh, one more thing, regardless if youre going or not, if you cant afford this festival you suck

Gmoo...I guess they don't teach y'all to read between the lines in Michigan. You are not a custy for having an education. You are a custy for asking if "treats" will be free on a jammy cruise. Maybe NEWB would have been more appropriate. And I'm a college grad by the way so don't try to insult me for saying "y'all". Keep your mushroom head outta here!

Damn this sounds like a really cool thing. Too bad I don't really like Umph or Bisco. Jam cruise, on the other hand...

Funkmeup is a fucking moron........I guess if I lived in Macon, GA I would be pissed off at life too! If you don't have enough flow to go then that's your own damn fault, doesn't matter whatyour' excuse is. Stop spending your money on PBR and hair gel biatch!

IS ECSTASY LEGAL IN JAMAICA?

When i was in jamaica i couldnt walk 20 feet without someone offering me pot. When i went to get back on the ship the cops hassled the hell out of me because they thought i was bringing some with.

and lets see, its about 7 months away..thats roughly 210 days.. if i save 5$ per day... ill be good!
Oh, wait. Too bad the tickets go on sale in like a week

righton ledisbri!! all you haters could take a note from that dude

Jamaica is one of my favorite places to stay. I almost got taken to jamaican prison last time i went on a cruise and tried sneakin some ganja back on the cruise. Other than that jamaica is awesome and is goin to be a great setting for Umph and Bisco and others to jam out. I'll definately be there if i can pull through with a good amount of cash. Is it by the nice part of jamaica, Ocho Rios or Santigo Bay?

umphrey's is the worst!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, Im going to trancegression, but this could be the sweetest thing ever. I mean on the face of the planet. UMph and DBisco... F'n A. This is going to be a sweet show. I really love how the SCIFidelity crew is getting together to put some of the best shows together. Can't wait for the summer. Continue to keep us posted on the good sh!t.

JV

Let me say:
(1) Kudos to funkmeup for admitting a drunken mistake. You're not from Texas are you? We all got um bro. Tell me, was it my searing satire or balls-out charisma that turned you? Congrats on the scholarship too. I was much too lazy to get one of those.
(2) danpfunk: glad you found it amusing. helicopters are sooo 80's
(3) gmoo: I was wondering how long it would take dinks like you to get all mad and misunderstand my point TOTALLY
(4) montra1: thank you for getting the point
(5) i love you guys! no matter what you see, go see some music. see how it brings us all together? even if it's to hate somebody. oh, and God bless Sarah Silverman!!!!

is this heaven jamaica bisco and umph

01roggae asked if this was in the nice part of jamaica , wich makes me wonder something. i have never been to jamaica , what is the political climate there? what sort of gov.'t is in place currently? are these resorts surrounded by trenchtown ghettos? is this another sun city?
keep in mind i am asking because i dont know , so please don't assume that i have made an assumption!

ive been once when i was much younger, and there are a ton of real bad areas in jamaica. its a pretty poor country but i hear its a real easy place to be poor since its always warm and no one starves to death cuz theres so much fat of the land to live off.

that being said, i think i recall hedonism being on one of the sickest beaches in the country and i think the two hotels are right by each other. so im sure the fest is in a very very nice part.

I highly suggest to anyone that goes to take a tour of the island...your hotel will should set you up with a nice enough cabbie who undoubtedly will be impossible to understand but very knowledgeable about the island

Who's Jerry?

Never been to Kingston but from what I understand you don't wanna go there, its a big city thats a mess. Thats on the southern side of the country anyway.

Montego Bay is decent, thats where the airport is on the NW side of the island. But Mo Bay is a real city/town so its not just resorts, you would likely interact with more locals. Negril is south and west of there, and is a popular young American type local, all resorts and not as much real Jamaica though IMO. Ocho Rios is east of Mo Bay, and is known for its waterfalls, I would say is more of a couples/family area.

Like alot of 3rd world countries, there is a lot of shadyness outside the walls of the mega resorts, but inside the resorts its like home. And of course whenever you travel abroad, be sure to follow local laws and customs (ganja is not legal), and keep your eyes open.

All that said, this event looks like you won't have to leave the walls of the resort. But if you do, you would find Jamaica to be full of good people who will do you right if you do the same to them. You will get treated like a rich tourist because essentially you are, but if you are cool with the people they will return the favor, and maybe then some.

Anyway thats been my experience there....

jimsan :: 5/11/2007 8:26 AM +6


"Let's have a vote:

What's worse?

The dirty, smelly, dog-toting, molly-pushing, natty ugly dreaded, stinky ole baseball cap wearing, miracle-begging, fake-acid dosing, oxycontin-riding, gross courdaroy waering, deadhead wannabees.

or

Job-having, ticket-purchasing, normal clothes wearing, beer-drinking, responsible fans.

It's a tough choice really."

I don't really think this is a fair statement for you to make. I will be graduating with a degree in paralegal studies this summer, I work in a law firm part time, and also as a law librarian part time.....oh and guess what? I HAVE DREADS AND I LISTEN TO THE DEAD!!! I get profiled all the time for it but when people met me, I change their minds about dreaded people all the time. I love my Dreads. I don't use LSD, mali, k or whatever else that you small minded people like to imagine dreaded folk using in excess. I'm also very clean and wear cords from time to time. So the next time you'd like to make a generalization about your fellow music lovers who are just trying to enjoy the show as much as the next flower child, DON'T! Your negativity has ruined my day....but don't you worry your pretty head about it.....I'll be thinking of you when I drive my happy ass all the way from Florida to Illinois next week for Summer Camp and send some positive vibes your way.

oh by the way:
"jimsan1 :: 5/12/2007 12:11 AM +3


IS ECSTASY LEGAL IN JAMAICA?"

If your going to be negative about drug use...plese try to maintain some kind of consistancy!

Stay Human

I am going to see both bands for the first time this summer in Atlanta. Just a curious question about their fan bases, is there a venue anywhere that yall don't fucking hate or think is run by Nazis? Jesus Christ! I haven't really been to any venue and walked away saying I'll never go back there.

getting the trustafarians and yuppynecks out of the country for a few days....

The Biscuit scene is way to cracked out for me nowadays.
Oh by the way happy B-day Wavy Gravy. Me and Wavy share the same Birthday.

Peace and love

Why do you people have to hate on the dreadlocked heads that happen to like the music and maybe a little molly to go with it. Let the kids party how they want. I manage the college pub at the university of miami and I still get down with the best of them. You people need to learn to not judge. It's all about the music before anything else. And my best employees also get down with the scene too, so that shows you that it is possible to get down and lead a productive, socially acceptable life.

I think that you guys are being super whinny about not being able to afford a trip to Jamaica... The people who can afford it should not have to deal with the people who want to cry about it. It's awesome that these people are teaming up to do a kick ass concert in a beautiful place. A lot hippies, (at least those with jobs) would love to travel outside of the country and see bands while doing it. It makes the whole vacation that much better. When those of you who feel it is imperitive to complain go out and get jobs and can afford to go, i think that you will feel the same way.

And by the way, not everyone going is a "trustifarian" or has "mommy and daddy" supporting them; some people just work hard and party hard. Being a hippy or having dreadlocks, or any of the other bullshit has nothing to do with it.
Umphreys and Bisco play a biz-illion concerts every year somewhere close to you, and you can go see them there... or you wait outside the airport on Dec. 13th and wait for a miracle...

Amen to the YEM work hard and party hard I work 55 hours a week and still catch at least one show a week, it's about the music more than anything else

This is one of the first times I have seen the scene being dissected like this, and I think it brings up a good point. We all come together to gather with the music being the only common bond. Going on some years of experience I can say I have scored bunk from dready kids and frat boys alike. You know it will happen again, but it will not be a deterrent from spending my hard-earned pay on a festival ticket. You got to support the local vendors as always, but its up to us to make things kinder by buying from those who are fair. Not buying from those that are not kind... That being said I can't wait to see some shows with all you beautiful people, trustfund bought or not.

It's the dready frat boys with the hookup... I speak from firsthand experience.....aka I am one

In Hoc

1000 clams for 4 days is like $250 a day.... subtract a hotel room that values easily 100+ a day plus admission to a show that easily woudl be $50 a day and meals and drinks that you can easily spend $100 a day on and wow all of the sudden this is a deal!.... some hotel rooms cost over $200 a day... with no meals... no bands.... no friends... sounds like paradise to me.... if you cant swing 2 g's for the vacation of a lifetime then maybe the problem is you and not the scene... if you smoke cigs then reward yourself with just 1 year in savings.... supply and demand...thanks to Bisco for even providing this as an option for us.... i am just not so sure i wanna see all of you naked hehehehe...the best part is you can pack real lite....lol...Jamacia here we come!...and we will put the JAM back in JAMacia!...

Wow! I came in here to look for folks that are going and to chat with them. This place is a degrading mad house!! Honestly I don't think I want to chat with many of you.