THE BOTTOM HALF OF UMPHREY'S McGEE

By: Forrest Reda


Umphrey's McGee
Leave it to Umphrey's McGee to release The Bottom Half (available April 3 on SCI Fidelity Records), a double-disc album with alternative versions, a cappella recordings and other gems from the band's 2005 studio sessions that didn't make it onto the band-imposed 45-50 minute collection of songs that became Safety In Numbers.

The Bottom Half isn't just for die-hard fans of Umphrey's McGee though. It showcases a precocious band that's pushing the stylistic envelope and incorporating new technology and studio techniques in their search for new sounds. Whether naming the band's first album Greatest Hits Vol. III or "putting out the box-set goodies ten years before the box set happens," Umphrey's McGee always seem like they're just a little bit ahead of the curve.

Guitarist Jake Cinninger tells us how the album got a warning label, why the band is staging a two-day festival with the Disco Biscuits this summer, and what makes the songs on The Bottom Half "the mirror [or] the nemesis of Safety."


JamBase: So, The Bottom Half, you've lived with these songs for awhile, right?

Cinninger: This project has been a labor of love for the past three years now. We've been compiling this stuff for a while and it's really nice to let it go and have it be birthed. It's a little child now.

JamBase: It's a toddler.

Cinninger: Yeah, exactly.

JamBase: We talked last year and you said that Safety In Numbers was originally going to be a double-album, but in the end the band picked the best 50-minutes of music. What changed? What made the band decide to release The Bottom Half now?

When we were assembling Safety In Numbers we realized we had a theme going with a particular batch of songs. We didn't want to get too crazy and too pompous and go, "Let's put out a big double disc with way too much information on it." We'd rather have a nice concise record of 50-minutes, consistent music that flows really nicely together instead of trying to cram in too much info. So, that's kinda the reason for The Bottom Half getting put out because we've sat on these files for a while. We went back and remixed and added things - added horn sections, added Bela Fleck to a tune, just kinda went back and spruced things up, get these songs in a fashion that we'd like to release 'em NOW. Every year we take on technology and our ideology changes with the way that we record. We have these old tunes, so it kinda gives us a chance to get them up to snuff.

There's definitely a different mood to The Bottom Half. Compared to Safety In Numbers, there's a lot of humor on this album.


Umphrey's McGee by Dave Vann
Yeah, exactly. Safety even [had a] darker [album] cover and there was a somber mood towards that record. The stuff on The Bottom Half is the mirror, the nemesis of Safety.

Exactly, it's a party. "Bright Lights, Big City" is the best example of Umphrey's stepping out of the box.

We really tried to go with a super poppy [sound], something we've never tried in the studio. Let's try and make this pop song really sound like a pop song because it really is a pop song. You could turn it into a funky tune and make it sort of loose and a funky Meters-ey type thing. That's kind of the way we do it live because we can't really pull off that huge electronica thing with all the organic instruments, but we can do it in the studio. It's sort of our playground. We were able to play with a song like that and turn it into a radio-sounding tune, not for radio's sake but just to see if we could do it.

It's fun. It even has a little of the Huey Lewis, Back To The Future thing going on.


Umphrey's McGee
Yeah, totally, like the stereophonic keyboards are swirling around your head when you listen to it, which sets up the whole tune. What's cool is that the A and the B section are so different and they work together so nicely. You've got this really happy verse section that has this spacey keyboard and then it's sort of like anger management rock in the B section. It's like a happy Peter Gabriel into a happy Nine Inch Nails.

Has Umphrey's McGee ever played that song with The Disco Biscuits in a shared or swapped set scenario?

No, but that would be a good one to sort of swap in and out. Or everyone could play that song. It's an easy number.

It might be DUMB enough to work, right?

Yeah, exactly. Good idea. We might have to use that.

 
We're so far into our next studio record now it's pretty funny... Right now we have 18 songs that no one has heard. We're trying to revamp our sound a little bit, trying to create what's going to make us happy to play over the next five years. We're starting to take that demeanor to our songwriting.

-Jake Cinninger

 
Photo by Sam Friedman

Speaking of The Disco Biscuits, you're doing the Transgression Festival with them. That's a big announcement and exciting news for fans.


Disco Biscuits & Umphrey's McGee by Vann
I really love working with those guys. Whenever we're in the same vicinity together we have a great time. And, it's not always just about the music. It's about hanging out and catching up and just talking about every day things, you know? We're stuck on the road just like they are so it's nice when we come together and tell each other stories about what we do. We all live inside this box on the road so it's nice to brush up against your buddies in other bands.

How does it feel to have a Parental Warning sticker slapped on the record?

It's pretty wild. I think there was just one small f-bomb somewhere in the record but I couldn't even tell you where. It's funny how that sticker ends up on anything.

Is there a ratings board? Do you have to submit it somewhere?


Jake Cinninger by Chris Monson
I think they might have fine-tooth combed that record to find this because I don't really know of any f-bombs or anything. I think there was one when I'm talking to Huey Lewis in the studio about his track, "The Heart Of Rock & Roll," and the fact that he was on Broadway at the time. I go, "You're going to get back to your band and they're gonna go, what the fuck happened to you? You're gonna sound like a Broadway actor." And he says, "Heart of Rock and Roll, Heart of Rock and Roll, you know?" I think that's where it might have gotten the sticker.

I'm glad that you left that in for your artistic integrity.

This is 2007, ya know? Kids watch movies. It wasn't like it was an intentional f-bomb.

Now, is this a fan's only album? Or is stuff like "Bright Lights" for the whole country?

I think there's a little bit of everything on there. The second disc is for the people that really know what we're all about and how we write our music. [They] can sort of dive in to hearing us conceive these things. You can hear the process happen, where things really aren't finished and there's sort of like a blueprint there. We wanted to let the fans in on that a little bit. It's not like I'm going to go into my vault and release everything that I have half done. That's not the way that we do things. But, it felt like we had enough stuff here - and we even have more, probably [enough for] three discs of the whole thing. I was sort of confused on how to track that second disc but Kevin Browning, our sound engineering sound corrector, took it upon himself to piece it together and make it so you can listen to it straight through. It's just this different idea of putting out an audio disc. I feel like we're onto something new here. It's like putting out the box-set goodies ten years before the box set happens.

You guys are doing stuff early. Didn't you name your first record Greatest Hits Volume 3?


Jake Cinninger by Trevor Pour
[Laughs]. It's about not taking yourself too seriously or hoarding the stuff. It's nice to let the fans hear the infant state of these songs, to let it out in the moment. Not many bands do that. We feel like, "let's do something a little different." We're all about that.

What does your record label think about that kind of attitude?

The beauty is we're with a record label that allows us to have free rein with our art. I don't think I'd know how to react if it wasn't that way. It's not like record companies are really ruling the world right now in the music field. A lot of independent people are making a living being independent artists. It's cool that our record label is a bunch of music fans, and they're also our friends. They're with us every step of the way with whatever we want to try. I think between all of us, we're very democratic. If something's not really working out it just won't end up on the disc. As far as that goes, we're really liberal with everyone's ideas. It's a very democratic environment.

 
It's sort of like anger management rock in the B section. It's like a happy Peter Gabriel into a happy Nine Inch Nails.

-Cinninger on "Bright Lights, Big City" from The Bottom Half

 
Photo by Casey Flanigan

What does the name The Bottom Half mean to you?


Brendan Bayliss by Brett Saul
It could be the sediment of the music we were working on. It could be the bottom half because we put it out later.

The bottom of half the inning?

These are the songs we didn't put out on Safety In Numbers because they were the bottom half of Safety In Numbers.

How about the cover?

If you cut into one of those onions on the front, it will make you cry. Right?

Right.

There's all these visual interpretations going on, the whole, like, you cut into a woman and she'll make you cry kind of thing. There are all these little connotations.

Was it the same situation with Safety In Numbers? Did you send Storm Thorgerson the music for him to listen to?


Umphrey's McGee by Brett Saul
Yeah. All the art's done overseas. He usually gets the lyrics. He broods over them for a while and comes up with ideas and images, sketches them by pencil and then faxes them back to us and we pick which ones represent the music and what we're feeling at the time. It's really the best process. It seems the clearest way to make a real strong idea in an image.

What about the future of Umphrey's? What's next?

We're so far into our next studio record now it's pretty funny. We're trying to stay a year ahead of ourselves. I feel like it's really important for a band when they have a nice stride happening - when you're in the twilight or dawn of whatever you are trying to do - to be a step ahead in the recording department. We do so much touring that we have to really make sure that whatever we're going to release a year and a half from now we're totally sure of right now. It's really important not to be rushed. This next album after The Bottom Half could be a very important record for us. Right now we have 18 songs that no one has heard. We're trying to revamp our sound a little bit, trying to create what's going to make us happy to play over the next five years. We're starting to take that demeanor to our songwriting.

So, you aren't road testing anything? You're keeping it under wraps?

We want it to be a surprise. I feel with great albums the release date comes and all this fresh music hits your fan base at once.

And they're thirsting for it.


Umphrey's McGee
I'm really trying to press to get a little bit more progressive. Everyone wants you to sound like Anchor Drops right now, and say a year from now they might want another Safety In Numbers, you know what I'm saying? It's just a natural progression to go back to a more intense, progressive sound, more fun arrangements, get a little more intense and more complicated, maybe, but still retain the songs. I feel that's the direction of the next record.

If you're leading your fans on a roller coaster, always hitting them with new musical curves, they'll enjoy the ride too much to ask for anything different.

Exactly. That's the idea. They're kinda stuck on the ride now.

And they're enjoying every moment.

Definitely. And so are we. It's a blast.

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radioioJAM starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/10/2007 07:11PM
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radioioJAM

TBH featured tracks now spinning on radioioJAM.

UM rools.

NickBoeka Tue 4/10/2007 07:25PM
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NickBoeka

This band rocks, like seriously. A true musician's band to listen to. A model of chops, rudiments and composition, which is truly inspiring.

shooter1161 starstarstar Tue 4/10/2007 07:39PM
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Jake. Tue 4/10/2007 07:46PM
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UM is the most musical band out there right now in my opinion....bisco rocks too :)

FrogBrigade22 starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/10/2007 07:50PM
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FrogBrigade22

UM is one of the best bands out there and they're on fire in 2007. I can't wait for 4/22 at the Zoo!!

Tomfoolery Tue 4/10/2007 07:59PM
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Tomfoolery

Sometimes it seems like I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't have an erection for Umphreys. However, they truly are gifted musicians and I'm interested in seeing them at Jazzfest and buying their new album, so who's got the last laugh in the end?

harryhood8 starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/10/2007 08:20PM
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harryhood8

i want to hear those 18 songs

darksider Tue 4/10/2007 09:09PM
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and you named yourself brendanstasik why???

GAMF Chitown snuckas!!!!

All Loving Liberal White Guy Tue 4/10/2007 09:36PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

Now I've seen it all. the first odds and sods in under disc to be really good. the last one i heard good was botch's "unifying themes redux". most raraties and b-sides albums suck becasue the bands and or labels are just trying to milk out some loot but "the bottom half" is pretty darn tootin'

Speaking of now i've seen it all, what's with Don Imus droppin' the phrase "nappy headed hoe's" ?!!

All Loving Liberal White Guy Tue 4/10/2007 09:39PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

Oh, and brendan stay sick is one classy dude. I'm guessing he's from jersey and got ol' one eye slammed in a bus door.

LukeDogg13 starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/10/2007 09:52PM
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I can't wait for TRANCEGRESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I only live 30 minutes away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone say Brain Damaged Eggmen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

megan1 Tue 4/10/2007 09:53PM
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hell ya umph. damn good. can't wait for the rochester and buffalo shows!

play bright lights and front porch for me would ya?

Tehsay Tue 4/10/2007 10:33PM
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Tehsay

haha speaking of razor kit...gross man...^^

I bought their album and had it signed last week by everyone in the band...and it was so awesome. Then they melted my face off and left me a fool in the rain.

nershi6string Tue 4/10/2007 10:53PM
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the new album is the shit i am really looking forward to the next one tho jake ses more progessive and intense which equals me being extra happy
see ya at SUMMERCAMP!!

Ivereadthebook Wed 4/11/2007 02:06AM
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Ivereadthebook

I think its cool how they're not roadtesting future studio material. Releasing a package of fresh unheard tunes is a good idea. Unlike moe.s last album where they released studio tracks of the songs they played live for the last couple of tours.

gmoo starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 02:09AM
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gmoo

Umphrey's is my favorite band. That's all.

torn&treyed Wed 4/11/2007 06:50AM
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the will be ripping for a long time to come oh and that picture in the article with brendan kneeling and putting his hand on jake's guitar is from the denver filmore a couple of years ago I was at that show.

mackadocious Wed 4/11/2007 07:19AM
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mackadocious

Bottom Half is pretty good. Most fans will agree that some of the studio tracks are more fun to hear live, but these are just different versions of the songs. UM plays so many ill tunes at their shows that haven't been put on an album yet. Eat, Crooked One and Dump City to list a few. I can't wait for their two nights @ SummerCamp.

hatfieldsbro starstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 07:26AM
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T. Ralph starstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 07:28AM
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T. Ralph Wed 4/11/2007 07:41AM
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Jake Cinniger is a mean machine, though.

Daddyphatsacks starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 08:52AM
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Daddyphatsacks

I was surfing youtube.com and came across their New Years performance. The "Dick in a Box" rendition was hilarious. Very entertaining. We'd love to see these guys in the Southwest. Make it happen Umphrey's!

inkjazz Wed 4/11/2007 09:16AM
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There's nothing quite like Umphrey's out there, and that's why they are loved and hated so much. Kinda like sushi. Something so unique is often misunderstood. They can hang with progressive bands, jam bands, jazz bands, dance bands, and often do it all in one show, complete with face melting improvisations. Brendan can hold his own on vocals too, but I'd be lying if I said they didn't focus on the music, which in my humble opinion is where the focus should be in today's multi-genre scene.

1048 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 09:16AM
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1048

ive been to about 7 umphreys shows, most of which i enjoyed, but at every show ive been to the crows sucks. i can't help it but the vibes at umph shows are terrible cus the crowd is full of d-bags

Ston starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 09:17AM
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dudeski3 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 09:25AM
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boxofrain Wed 4/11/2007 09:31AM
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jimsan Wed 4/11/2007 09:41AM
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Umphrey's was maybe cool back when they used to play Phish parking lots. And I'm here to complain about the people who complain about the fake hippies who complain.

iamkickinit Wed 4/11/2007 10:21AM
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iamkickinit

Jimsan - Totally agree with you on the people who complain about the fake hippies who complain.

On a site such as this, wouldn't they just be complaining about themselves complaining?

Going to get the UM album as we speak, anyone got any suggestions for the best track? I, for one, have not been to impressed with UM as of late... their dark beats and ryhthms just don't do it for me, I miss the "Local band does OK" and "Anchor Drops" UM, not the Metal UM that they have been moving towards these past few tours.

Also, to the one who complained about UM lot at shows... you're totally right. Lot at UM is about 95% guys, and 3% girls who are dragged their by their fratty-type boyfriend, and 2% heady chicks. Just my intake on it... Sorry if you get offended.

Dizon311 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 10:45AM
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Dizon311

Everyone observations is obviously from the back. If your front row you dont give a shit who is behind you. so as it goes... who cares whos in the crowd? Do you pay to see them? Ill pay for the music which is one of best on the scene right now. 30 Umphreys shows and counting.. SUMMERCAMP on my way!

Bottom HALF ROCKS!
I hated Safety in Numbers.
Anchor Drops meh..
Local Band does oklahoma ROCKS!
Local band does ok is ok..
Songs for older women was the shit.

I would rathier see them in concert then buy there album.
It just keeps me entertained when Im not at there show.
I love you UM! and Dont really care if you dont cause that just means more room for me to groove!

HOPEFULPHAN starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 10:47AM
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um fuckin rules!

rulosa01 Wed 4/11/2007 10:57AM
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I've never been too big a fan of UM, but if someone hates them enough to post a cock on their comments, they are probably worth checking out.

OzzieSmith starstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 11:09AM
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UM is an amazing band, but I am impressed with the interview. I knew Jambase would put out a review but it is better hearing what the band thinks of the album then some writer. Its nice to have some insight of the direction of the band. Well done.

DBang Wed 4/11/2007 11:23AM
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Come on people. I don't think I can stand to hear the phrase "melt my face" one more time. We've got to be capable of coming up with some new catch-phrases to denote an impressive solo/improv. How about, "that solo singed my ass-hair," or "Trey just opened up the noodle jar," or even, "Jake tore the top off that muffin."? Not saying that any of these are the heir apparent to the ubiquitous 'face melter,' but between all of us we ought to be able to come up with something new...then we can run that into the ground, too.

1048 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 11:34AM
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1048

Umphrey's is the shit most of the time, sometimes their a little hard for my musical tastes, but they always put on a good show. I'm still in high school and a few years ago the only kids at my school who knew who umphrey's was were the "hippie" types, but now you got the whole football team whereing umph shirts and all that. Their fanbase has really taken a shitty turn and thats the only criticism i have about umphreys. If you go to an umph show u'll see a lot more assholes than you would at most other shows. sorry

voodoochili12 starstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 11:38AM
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Even though the article says TBH is for more than just diehard UM fans, I disagree. I think casual listeners should pick up Anchor Drops, Safety In Numbers, or anything live. After listening a few times, I feel like most of these songs are a little weak. Jake writes great songs, but the lyrics in these songs are sappy. Just my two cents, don't hate me! I love UM and wish them well, just TBH didn't tickle my fancy that much

paulygparty starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 01:59PM
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iamkickinit has a point about all the dude's goin' to the shows.

Umphrey's is my favorite shit, but the only thing holding them back is the strong dude showings at their shows. I wish their sound appealed to more vagines. Panic shows and STS9 shows attract mucho muy caliente chicas.

buck72 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 02:16PM
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buck72

There will be a new live album out shortly, they tapped it in Indy this past Friday and Saturday, I have been to alot of UM shows but this past weekend was a memorable one, you got to love a band who hangs out after the show to sign autographs and take pictures, This live album will be a good one to get, there are a few songs over the weekend that have not yet made on any other official release's, should be interesting to see what they pull out of a great 4 set's. And DBang, I feel you with the face melting, how bout UM cracked my skull, i think this whole face melting business started with steal your face, maybee UM split my soul. UM sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!

musicGOD Wed 4/11/2007 02:19PM
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musicGOD

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buck72 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 02:20PM
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buck72

All you people bitchin about no female's at the show, I got a suggestion, get a date and take her to a show you loser's.

torn&treyed Wed 4/11/2007 02:27PM
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umph and bisco to play a buncha shows in the south west guess daddy phat stacks gets his wish. I may go see my parents for the florida show

gmoo starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 02:47PM
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gmoo

No Buck72, Primus sucks. UM soulsplits!!!!

Andi80 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 03:15PM
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Andi80

This "vagine" loves the UMPH! And I know many other super hip chicks that do too!

I'm really diggin' Red Room (both versions) and Fresh Start. Alex's House is a pretty good time too. Great American with Bela sounds great! It's "gnice."

Andi80 Wed 4/11/2007 03:20PM
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Andi80

Acoustic Divisions! It makes me really happy!

putz85us starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 03:59PM
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putz85us

UM may not be as inviting to the ears of female listeners as other bands within the genre, but there is definitely not a shortage of hotties raging at their shows. I would actually go as far as to say that this is a good thing and keeps many sorostitutes from attending. As for the brahs in attendance from the local frat, just ignore them if it bothers you that much. I’m usually so caught up in the moment that I could honestly give a shit about the demographics of the crowd. There will always be a nice heady vibe as long as that is what you portray and seek. Can’t wait for the next chi-town throw-down on 4/21

Rebacreates Wed 4/11/2007 06:57PM
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YES!! YES!! YES!!

Jake - MORE PROG ROCK MAN!! Lets get crazy with those time signatures. I wanna hear more EAT and more "middle section of second self". Keep melting face.

JakeCinningerisgod starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 09:51PM
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damn they r some awesome, how quick the write good music is just mind blowing, 18 new sonds we havnt heard!!!! holy shit, DBang that signs my ass hair

nershi6string Wed 4/11/2007 10:24PM
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i dont really no what you guys are talking about i have always thought there were more girls especially attractive girls at um shows over any other jam band and ive seen them about 20 times now and i mean i agree they have began to atract some d bag fans but who really gives a shit do u pay to see a band or to mingle with the crowd sorry i just get pissed when people bitch about crowds just dance have fun and dont pay attenchion to anyone els if u cant enjoy a band you clam to like just because there is a couple people at the show that u dont i think that may make u a poser

STOTLMOM starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 10:54PM
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So my slacker ass just got TBH, well actually my roommate got it for me, she kicks ass! So the Divisions is probably the best representation of a song done in the studio that still gives you that live feel sound. Actually might like it even better that you can actualy hear the last emotion of the song and not a screaming crowd, but nothing compares to the energy flowin from the crowd screamin over the end of... I love the novelty of TBH and might be one of my personal fav studio album thus far. Even though I got tickles in my bones when he mentioned 18 unheard tracks!! UNHEARD OF?! Much love for the umph ALWAYS!
p.s. I like Higgins Instrumental-very nice.

knibbs Wed 4/11/2007 11:06PM
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knibbs

Thought this was a thread regarding this sub-par album. Like mentioned above if you're a die hard UM freek you'll like it, but the entire second disc is a waste of time. Sure, it's cool and all, but is it necessary?

This is definately no Incestiside (Nirvana's album full of b-sides and rarities, and left over material, which was much better than this), it has a couple of interesting tracks on it: 'Bright Lights' is catchy and was the first time I heard it in 2004 live, the 'Higgins' tracks are much better on this than the live versions I've heard, but come on. It almost seems like they needed to release an album and they had the material. These songs weren't new they're recycled versions of material not good enough to make the final album cut of Safety In Numbers. I'm def not a hater, but have you listened to this? see you in chicago

spaceface7 starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/11/2007 11:39PM
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Umphreys rocks the earth that I stand on. Causing me to move my feet to avoid the cracks in the ground...
Been to long since I've seen this band (10k). And I can't wait for the string of shows this weekend!! This whole thing over the umphreys crowd is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Don't let somebody that seems weird to you bring you down. Just gotta be positive. Positive energy is contagious. Just gotta dance like nobody is watchin mothertrucker!!

Tehsay Thu 4/12/2007 05:32AM
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Tehsay

lol, well while the topic of um crowds is up, i must say, the last one i was at kinda pissed me off. all i saw were drunk idiotic girls screaming their lungs out and drunk dudes tryin to look all hard and not move an inch to the left so i can squeeze by. pricks i tell ya. shit like that pisses me off because you know a majority of the people there are either on dates or can only name songs like front porch or snucka. the crowd, as a whole, IS declining in my opinion. id rather have a roomfull of dedicated dudes that a bunch of stuck up bitches who just wanna get wasted...personally...

my two cents. ~

bwakerwsp Thu 4/12/2007 07:02AM
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Yes great Musicians! BUTTTTTTT, It sounds like this band has gone to one to many Phish shows. Where is the Darkness? Its all weak stuff!!!

bigfro Thu 4/12/2007 07:16AM
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UMPHREY"S is GREAT I saw the Dead 70 times and Umphrey's wasn't even a formed band when they were playing. Rusted root played the dead parking lot. We want to stay young forever, but you don't do it by living in the past. The DEAD ALSO RULE, BUT I CAN GO SEE UMPHREY'S NOW. I'M NOT READY TO QUIT GOING OUT TO SEE MUSIC AND THE YOUNG BANDS ARE AWESOME. YOU WANT TO STAY YOUNG THAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

bigfro Thu 4/12/2007 07:21AM
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rufuso starstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 08:34AM
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ive tried these guys boring.

cuttyfives Thu 4/12/2007 08:59AM
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umph is from Indiana...im sick and tired of them riding the best city in worlds coat tails. After no triple wide or in the kitchen two years ago nye, i have given up on umph. Check out Fareed Haque for some good chi-town ish.

bBlack starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 09:56AM
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I always love a Jake interview. It seems like he (and the entire band) always want to be moving in a different direction musically and pushing the limits of what they can do. I love that, and can't wait to hear those 18 songs.

I think the first disc of TBH is great. My only complaint is the ending of the Higgins. If they polished up some of the songs, like Great American, then why not add the normal ending to Higgins as well.

pinkfloydfan420 Thu 4/12/2007 10:12AM
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I love Umphrey's, I really do. However, having grown up in Michigan, Hookah and Umphrey's were the only regular bands. MMW, Big Wu, P Groove, moe, Mule, New Deal, and others would come through once every few years, but Umphreys and Hookah were the "regulars". Well, they started getting real popular and ticket prices went way up. I still love Umphrey's, and they can do a great cover of any song, but I guess now that everybodies going apesh!t over them, I just don't feel it as much. Every time I see them it's great, but I've just seem them so many times. However, Umphrey's McCheese was great at Alexian Field for Big Summer Classic a few years back!

I hope these guys get huge, because they deserve it.

Daddyphatsacks starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 10:15AM
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Thanks for the good vibes Joshl92482. Unfortunately Copper Mountain, CO isn't exactly what I had in mind for Southwest shows. Although when it's a band from the Midwest I should expect a drive? There are great venues in Flagstaff, Vegas, Phoenix San Diego! Again, "make it happen boys!"

However, I did download a NugsCast from their California run last year at this time. Great sound and I'm hoping for something like that again soon. It's been a year?

Great review.

paulyblunts Thu 4/12/2007 10:48AM
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i just dont understand the hype around these guys..i've seen them live a few times and there are so many better bands on the scene that dont get half the recognition.

Daddyphatsacks starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 11:11AM
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paulyblunts, which other bands are you referring to?

I will say this type of following and "recognition" doesn’t usually happen by accident. Although, Umphrey's does seem to be at the right place in their career at just the right time.

BGsteveBG starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 12:41PM
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Kris Meyers is one of the best drummers out there right now.
Love the band, my only complaint is the dude that always has 'sox' gear on. How bout a Cubs hat, jerk?

nershi6string Thu 4/12/2007 01:36PM
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tehsay i will give u the girls thing at are last show but u were just a pussy and couldnt get up to us dont blame are favorite band for that you and your crowds todd i will never understand your obsession with what the people around u are doing

moeMan1 starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 05:51PM
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Daddyphatsacks FYI

4/11/2007 - D.U.M.B. ANNOUNCES FIVE SHOW CO-HEADLINING TOUR IN SE AMPHITHEATERS!!!
This summer, the Disco Biscuits and Umphrey's McGee will be joining forces for a co-headlining summer run of shows. The uniting of the two clans, subtly dubbed D.U.M.B. (Disco Umphrey's McGee Biscuits) will be sharing the stage at some great outdoor venues, both bands playing full shows each night. The summer affair between the two bands will start in the South East in Charlottesville, VA at the Charlottesville Amphitheatre on Wednesday June 27th. The D.U.M.B posse will continue on to Portsmouth, VA at the Ntelos Wireless Pavilion on Thursday June 28th, The Lincoln Theatre Street Stage in Raleigh, NC on Friday June 29, and the Masquerade Music Park in Atlanta, GA on Saturday June 30th. Although playing equal sets at each show, the bands will take turns each night on who will close each show. In order to figure out who will close the last show on Sunday July 1st at the Pompano Beach Amphitheatre in Pompano Beach, FL, there will be a pre-show poker game between members of each band on stage at the four preceding shows. The winner of this poker game will play the closing set in Pompano. So make sure to get to the shows early to catch the poker madness!

marco_esquandolas24 starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 05:52PM
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http://celebratestlouis.org/site/ go to this site and vote for umph thanks guys

Tehsay Thu 4/12/2007 06:36PM
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nershi haha who is this? i didnt wanna be a dick myself and just push past people, but i guess i have to. i liked where i ended up anyways.

and i could honestly care less what kind of disgusting human being goes to those shows. im there for the band. but when idiots bump into you and step on your feet, that gets in the way of me viewing the show. thats all. but im not wrong about the way the overall crowd is shifting.. haha

Cotsy starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 08:45PM
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great article, so true. the best is yet to come! keep rockin!!

Daddyphatsacks Fri 4/13/2007 08:26AM
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No, no, no. Boys I said Southwest, not southeast.

Marcsmall Fri 4/13/2007 09:08AM
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Over-Rated

SCI123 star Sat 4/14/2007 10:10AM
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hope theres re-entry at the D.U.M.B shows so i can leave when the dumphreys comes on!!

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bigfro Sun 4/15/2007 04:12AM
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Just saw Umphrey's friday at Nokia. It was a religious experience. It was the kind of clean perfect rocked out playing that I haven't seen since Phish started to break out of the clubs in the early nineties. They are getting to a place where they can play that way every night. It is truly inspiring to watch. When Phish was gone it all felt over. Brownstein came on with Umphrey's and announced a New York City show in Brooklyn with Disco Umphreys Mcgee Biscuits for MacCarran Pool. Awesome

O spend alot of them defending bands like Umphrey's because instead of taking the easy way and writng 3 minute controllable sellable songs they push the envelope. They are willing to put their balls on the chopping block and barrel into a fierce jame with only the crowds energy behind them to keep them from falling on their face. They risk looking like jerks to find a moment of true grace and creativity. Many of youa re caught up on control and freak if something unpredictible happens, but soeday thre may be nothing raw and unpredictable and we'll all have to settle for John Butler and the Kings of Leon. We will all talk about songwriting and pretend we don't miss the musicianship as we check the mirror and brush our sideburns.

bigfro Sun 4/15/2007 04:19AM
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I went to school in Arizona, but i'm from Jersey. They may have went o Notre Dame, but they are from Chicago. LOL

gmoo starstarstarstarstar Sun 4/15/2007 01:25PM
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No truer words have ever been spoken Mr. Bigfro.

msbjivein Sun 4/15/2007 02:25PM
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Ok , I've been seeing the UMPH! since they used to play free shows at the PATIO in INDY. Maybe I'm a little old school but why the hell does the UMPH have to team up w/ of all bands the Disssco bisquicks to put on a festival. The UMPH is in a league of their own they have been touring long enough they do not need to team up w/ a classless act like D.B. These guys along w/ some of there fans are way to tweeked. I believe that the UMPH has started making a huge impact on the scene and should continue down there own path towards musical greatness. They should headline their own festival and continue making their mark on rock! UMPHEST!!!! w/ the bisquicks on a side stage! SEE YA AT JAZZFEST!!!!!! PEACE msbjivein!

Lakai starstarstarstarstar Sun 4/15/2007 05:31PM
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umph and the biscuits together is awesome, AT the Umphreys show this past Friday at Nokia Brownie came out for 2 songs, it was soo fucking dope.

spaceface7 Sun 4/15/2007 11:25PM
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Bottom line is if you went to the nokia show and didn't like it, then you don't like umphreys. It was deffinity the Mcgee at they're best. 930 club and water street were fun but the highlight of the weekend was the triple wide> in the kitchen with brownie. The instrumental heard it through the grapevine was a nice surprise too.
Buffalo shall be sick!
((JAKES A BADASS!!!))

deftone984 Sun 4/15/2007 11:37PM
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i saw umphrees at all good this past summer and wasnt impressed at all. at no point during the set did i get any inclination to move, and i love to dance more than anything in the world. they seemed to be great musicians, but i wasnt feeling their groove. it felt like they had a.d.d. or something. so my question is this... if anyone on here was at that show? and if so, was that is a good representation of their music? if not, could someone suggest a good show to download so i can give these guys another chance? thanks.

knibbs Mon 4/16/2007 06:23AM
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Deftone984 I'd suggest picking up a copy of Anchor Drops thier album from a couple of years ago very solid. Hey bigfro, first of all Nirvana doesn't suck ass-[and Jerry Garcia was a great role model?]-I was comparing the albums-Incesticide & The Bottom Half, both offerings that contained music that was recorded years earlier but released at a later date. Umphrey's is good, but not even close to Nirvana. Totally different, UM didn't change the face of music, and can't hold a candle to the songwriting that Nirvana did and people forget they were only around for 4 years! Way to go I just blabbed on about Nirvana on an UM thread. Oh, well I'll be seeing the UM like 5 times this weekend so...

knibbs Mon 4/16/2007 06:56AM
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Go White Sox! Andy can wear his Sox jersey any/all the time, and Kris is super raw. Whoever was laughing at that statement obviously doen't play the drums and has no idea what they're talking about.

Maestro starstarstar Mon 4/16/2007 11:39AM
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These tDB/UM threads always turn to hate somewere along the lines.....dbags, just shut the fu*k up and dance.....AT EITHER of your respected band shows. I'm beggining to think some hippes are the most close minded, arrogant pricks on this planet!!!

Oh, and GO SOX...fu*k that northside, band wagon sucking worthless team. Thanks god they have a new owner so my "frat" cub fan friends can stop bitching about their future.....MAYBE.

Chicago sports ='s the BEARS, BULLS, HAWKS (which is sad) and the ONLY Baseball team in Chicago that matter's....The SOX.

j-bizzle Mon 4/16/2007 02:41PM
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F the south side
umphs = face melt

umphizzle4shizzle Tue 4/17/2007 03:28PM
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I have only one thing to say to all of the UM haters/doubters: You just don't get it...

Maestro Wed 4/18/2007 09:30AM
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ok j-bizz...have fun in rainbow territory you ankle grabbing, north side loving train rider. I do, of course take that back if you are one of the lower marginal 25% of REAL CUBS fans. There are some out there, but your typical frat boy cover up fans are always blinding the truth.

j-bizzle Wed 4/18/2007 11:04AM
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palo - grew up in omaha and have been watching the cubs on wgn for 25+ yrs. we can't help it that your wt fans scare real baseball lovers away, but jumping on the field to beat up old men, aka 1st base coach of the f'ing Royals!!
Anyway, all in good fun - can't wait for June 21st series. Oh and BTW this weekend is gonna be off the chain, i am flying in from S.F to get my umphs on.

Makisupa_McGee starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/18/2007 06:16PM
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umph has either been my fav or in top 2-3 bands for the last 3-4 years now.
Im still warming up to the bottom half but there is alot of stuff on the 2nd disc that i was kind of scratching my head while listening to thinking "now, why did they want us to hear this?" but there is also a lot that i like quite a bit - the, imo humorous, version of liquid comes to mind amongst others. I know im going to listen to the disk over and over trying to extract things from it that might turn into surprises at shows or turn into new songs, etc...
I saw on one review that someone said its not just for the fans, but I couldnt disagree more.
As for the 1st disc (the acutal album) I need to listen to it a ton more but loved how they do things on the album that they just plain cant do at shows, and also liked how i thought some of it sounded sort of beetlesy - i think i got that impression mainly from their use of horns.

for the next album, i really hope that they save a ton of new songs and never play em live till the album is released (as is mentioned in the article)...its way more of a surprise that way

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SCI123 Chris Myers has a masters degree in Jazz Drumming.
Pay attention to him at a show, he is freaking impressive.
Much better than fishman, or nance.
Travis of cheese is veryy talented YES.
Chris Myers plays with MORE FORCE AND POWER. seriously, wake up dude, pay attention. He is a badass... Peas..

BiscoStyle Sat 5/5/2007 04:52PM
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worst band ever!! Disco Biscuits blow them away...i read a artical that says UM is the next Phish!! ahahahahahahahahahaha

johnnybgoode23 starstarstarstarstar Mon 5/7/2007 01:31AM
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yeah, chris definately knows what he's doing. as does everyone else. chris gave my younger brother drum lessons for a little while until he said told matt "i'm touring with this band umphrey's mcgee..." unfortunately, i missed the kotche/meyers drum action at elmhurst college (where chris used to teach), but i heard he tore it up.... so, like, umphrey's is amazing anyway.... like, really amazing...

Makisupa_McGee Wed 5/9/2007 04:33PM
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ive had the album for weeks, but i suddenly fell in love with it recently after listening to it after catching a good beer buzz. its not that i was drunk, it was just like i REALLY listened to it for the first time.

i think i wrote a bunch of it off the first handfull of times i listened to it for some unknown reason.

Its great tho.

I'd love it if Umph was playing huge ampatheaters...doubt itl happen anytime soon tho. I just miss that kind of party, you know?

krzyzak starstarstarstarstar Thu 5/10/2007 10:41AM
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im looking to get a new UM cd. dose anyone have any suggestions? please send private message.thank you and lots of love to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HarlandEast starstar Fri 5/25/2007 06:49AM
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umph tries to do too much too fast.. i start to get into a groove all dancin around then they change their shit up on me! I'm sorry but i'm not a big fan. i've seen them 3 or 4 times at festivals and at their own shows and the most memorable song i've heard them play was a pink floyd cover! weak sauce. next phish my hairy ass.