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- Under the Scales
- Aug 28, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
Today we bring you a special report, looking at the new songs played during Phish’s Summer 2023 Tour, with Tom sharing insights about some of the songs he wrote with Trey. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you…
- Under the Scales
- Jul 19, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
We’ve Got A Band E8: Mike Hanford
- Under the Scales
- Jul 12, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
We’re back with Dan Kanter! Hear James and Gabrielle talk with the guitarist about his Phish journey, meeting Trey, and more! We’ve Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Produced…
- Under the Scales
- Jul 6, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
Dan Kanter, the musical director and former lead guitarist for Justin Bieber, is this week’s guest. Dan is best known for his work Bieber, but he’s also a songwriter, producer, and of course, a Phish fan.This is part 1 of James and Gabby’s conversation with Dan, and part 2 will be next week. We’ve Got A Band is presented by Section…
- Under the Scales
- Jun 28, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
This week’s episode finds James and Gabby in conversation with the Quiz Daddy Scott Rogowsky. Scott talks about his fan journey, the rise and fall of HQ Trivia, and more. We’ve Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James…
- Under the Scales
- Jun 21, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
On this episode, we bring you two journalists and Phish fans, Katy Tur and Jake Sherman. They’re well known for their Phish puns on the air, and they talk to James and Gabby about their Phish journeys, favorite venues, how those puns got started, and a lot more. We’ve Got A Band is presented by…
- Under the Scales
- Jun 14, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
This week, James and Gabrielle talk to mountaineer Aron Ralston, the subject of the movie 127 Hours. Aron talks about his experience as a Phish fan, including what he was listening to while he made the decision to amputate his own arm. He shares his spiritual journey with music, and tells stories of how he…
- Under the Scales
- Jun 7, 2023
- 2:05 am UTC
On episode 2, Gabrielle and James talk with Bravo star Austen Kroll, a big Phish fan who tells us about his show adventures, his favorite venues, fashion at Phish shows, and more. We’ve Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle…
- Under the Scales
- Jun 7, 2023
- 2:00 am UTC
We kick off the series with an interview with actor Chris Witaske (The Bear, Love, Second City). Hosts Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del talk to Chris about his Phish fandom, the Chicago “Harpua” and hanging with the band at Second City, a memorable trip to Alpine Valley, and a lot more. We’ve Got A Band…
- Under the Scales
- May 30, 2023
- 4:02 am UTC
Today we’re announcing “We’ve Got A Band,” with journalists Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del talking with Phish’s most notable and influential fans—exploring these fans’ creative processes for finding their unique voice, building their own community, and swimming against the cultural current to build something special and everlasting, just like Phish. Season one of We’ve Got A…
- Under the Scales
- May 12, 2023
- 2:12 am UTC
This is the end of the Island Tour! And finally, the end of season 4. If you wanna take off, take off, but we encourage you to stick around…for 4/5/98. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media.…
- Under the Scales
- May 11, 2023
- 2:48 am UTC
We’ve switched islands, but don’t worry, we’re still talking Phish. Join us for this dive into 4/4/98. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric…
- Under the Scales
- May 10, 2023
- 2:51 am UTC
Today we keep the Island Tour rolling along, this time diving into the epic 4/3/98. If you haven’t seen it, here’s Amar Sastry’s Anatomy of a Jam video on the Roses Are Free. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you…
- Under the Scales
- May 9, 2023
- 2:34 am UTC
Is it still 1997? Depends on who you ask. Today we’re getting back to the end of season 4 and talking in depth about the Island Tour. Four episodes, starting today with 4/2/98. Thanks for coming back. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine…
- Under the Scales
- Apr 13, 2023
- 2:06 am UTC
New York, New York! We cap off the New Year’s 97 run with a look at 12/31/97, an extended discussion about encores, and a look forward to 1998. Thanks for tuning in. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by…
- Under the Scales
- Apr 12, 2023
- 2:06 am UTC
An udder ball, Hannibal Lecter, an outrageous jam (or many), and a lot more. Welcome to 12/30/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric…
- Under the Scales
- Apr 11, 2023
- 2:06 am UTC
The bus has arrived in the Big Apple, and we’re ready to tackle 12/29/97. Enjoy. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed…
- Under the Scales
- Apr 10, 2023
- 2:06 am UTC
We’re back! Picking up where we left off, we’re going to be releasing episodes on all 4 New Year’s run ‘97 shows, and then we’ll bring you episodes on the Island Tour after Phish’s Spring 2023 tour. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 14, 2022
- 5:51 pm UTC
On 12/11/22, Osiris this season celebrating Fall ’97 to life—with a night of conversation and music. Here, you’ll hear set of music in tribute to Fall ’97, featuring Cal Kehoe (Pink Talking Fish), Chris Deangelis (The Machine / Kung Fu), Adrian Tramantano (Twiddle / Kung Fu), Jeremy Kaplan (Dogs In A Pile), Andrew Pfeiffer (FeelFree),…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 13, 2022
- 2:39 am UTC
To cap off the last night of Albany, 12/13/97, we have someone who played that night—John Kasiewicz of J. Willis Pratt and We’re Bionic. They opened for Phish that night, and John talks about their show, and the amazing Phish show that follows. A few things to check out: a documentary about Willis and his longtime…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 12, 2022
- 2:42 am UTC
We have arrived in Albany for the last couple nights of the tour, and we’re grateful to Scott Bernstein of JamBase to talk to us about 12/12/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 11, 2022
- 2:32 am UTC
Rochester! Writer and podcaster Jesse Jarnow joins us to talk about this legendary show on 12/11/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 9, 2022
- 2:19 am UTC
As we head toward the Northeast for the final leg of the tour, we talk with Benjy and RJ, who were both at the show, about how University Park on 12/9/97 stacks up. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 7, 2022
- 2:30 am UTC
We’re heading to Dayton to talk 12/7/97 with Andy Gadiel! Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 7, 2022
- 2:30 am UTC
We’re heading to Dayton to talk 12/7/97 with Andy Gadiel! Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 6, 2022
- 2:30 am UTC
Today we’re thrilled to be talking about 12/6/97 with Ryan Stasik of Umphrey’s McGee. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 5, 2022
- 2:28 am UTC
The guest today for the 12/5/97 show from Cleveland is our very own RJ Bee. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 3, 2022
- 2:24 am UTC
Our guest today is Nugs.net founder and CEO Brad Serling. Brad chats with Tom and Benjy about seeing Phish in the early 90s as a Grateful Dead fan, his voyage from taper to a career in live music, and of course the amazing show on 12/3/97 at The Spectrum in Philly. Please consider subscribing to Osiris…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 2, 2022
- 2:30 am UTC
Today we have a conversation with Marc Brownstein of The Disco Biscuits, who talks about the Philadelphia show on 12/2/97, and a whole lot more about his band, Phish, and the 90s. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 1, 2022
- 2:22 am UTC
In this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ share another one of their favorite Phish comfort songs. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
- Under the Scales
- Nov 30, 2022
- 4:08 am UTC
In this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ share one of their favorite Phish comfort songs. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
- Under the Scales
- Nov 30, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
We wrap up the Worcester run by focusing on the last night, 11/30/97, with guest Carla Ngo. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 29, 2022
- 4:05 am UTC
In this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ talk about Phish shows when they were most in need of wool. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
- Under the Scales
- Nov 29, 2022
- 3:36 am UTC
We are on to the weird and wild second night of Worcester, 11/29/97, with our guest Jeremy D. Goodwin. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 28, 2022
- 4:12 am UTC
This bonus episode features a discussion about the best outdoor venues to see Phish play. Tom, RJ, and Benjy debate their personal favorites and the merit of music in parking lots. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
- Under the Scales
- Nov 28, 2022
- 3:22 am UTC
We have David Goldstein as our guest to talk about the first night of Worcester, 11/28/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 26, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
We have Scott Marks back again to talk with us about his first show, 11/26/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 23, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
Never miss a Sunday show, especially during the Fall ‘97 tour. Today we talk with Brian Brinkman about 11/23/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 22, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
Today we’re joined by Scott Bernstein of JamBase to talk about 11/22/97 from Hampton. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 21, 2022
- 7:52 am UTC
In a special bonus episode, Joel Cummins of Umphrey’s McGee talks with Benjy about his experience at the Phish show on 11/19/97 and how it influenced his decision to become a professional musician. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 21, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
It’s on to Phish’s first two-night stand at the mothership. We talk with guest Craig Hillwig about 11/21/97 in Hampton. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 19, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
We’re in Champaign for 11/19/97, with Andy Kahn of JamBase. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 17, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
For one of the best shows of Fall ‘97, we could only have one person revisit it with us. Trey joins us to talk about 11/17/97, memories of the tour, and what led to this different musical style. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 16, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
It’s the first night of Denver, 11/16/97, and we’re joined by guest Scott Galbraith. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 14, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
We’re on to Salt Lake City for the second show of the tour, 11/14/97, joined by guest Dom Deluca. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 13, 2022
- 3:00 am UTC
We’ve finally arrived in Las Vegas for the kickoff of Fall ‘97. Drew Hitz and Charlie Dirsken join us to recap the tour opener, 11/13/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 11, 2022
- 3:26 am UTC
Today we’re joined by Jim Pollock to talk about The Great Went. We dive into 8/16/97 and 8/17/97 and talk about Jim’s work with the band. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 11, 2022
- 3:07 am UTC
We’re back, EXACTLY 15 minutes since our last episode. Rob Mitchum joins us to talk about 8/10/97 at Deer Creek. Here’s Rob’s 25th anniversary blog post on the show. Here’s Marc Allan’s review of this show, and Trey reading it in Bittersweet Motel. Lastly, here’s Marc Allan’s interview with Trey from 1993.Please consider subscribing to…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 9, 2022
- 2:58 am UTC
We’re on the back of the worm! We’re with Scott Marks to discuss the 7/1/97 and 7/2/97 shows from Amsterdam. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 7, 2022
- 2:38 am UTC
Former Phish Road Manager Brad Sands joins us once again to talk about the 3/1/97 show, the basis for the album Slip, Stitch And Pass. Tom and Brad share Europe tour stories and talk about this era of the band’s music.Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts.…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 4, 2022
- 2:02 am UTC
We have arrived in 1997, and we’re hitting the Paradiso in Amsterdam to talk about 2/17/97, a night marked mostly by a huge debut, and the debut of a new musical direction. We discuss this all with Undermine co-Executive Producer Brian Brinkman. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 2, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
Viva Las Vegas! Today we’re talking about the rare show where the encore is the most talked about segment of the show. That’s 12/6/96, under the bright lights, with journalist and author of The Phish Book, Richard Gehr. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 31, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
How do I work this? Where is that large automobile? Maybe this is my beautiful house…We are celebrating 10/31/96 and the masterful cover set of Remain In Light, with guest Gerald Gottesman. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 28, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
Today we step into the creation of The Clifford Ball, with one of the people responsible for bringing it to life, Lars Fisk. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 26, 2022
- 2:11 am UTC
On today’s episode, Drew Hitz joins us in the Gamehendge Time Laboratory, to revisit what many people think is the greatest Phish show of all time—12/31/95. We’re grateful to Drew for joining us for this three-set show that is so revered. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts.…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 24, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
We’re continuing our drive through 1995 with a stop in Binghamton, on a snowy night in December. David Steinberg (aka zzyzx) joins us to discuss 12/14/95, a show that at least one of our hosts describes as “nearly perfect.“Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 21, 2022
- 2:59 am UTC
Today we’re visiting the land of chocolate, with our very own co-host, Benjy Eisen. It’s 12/1/95— philosophy, science, religion, and of course, chocolate. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 19, 2022
- 2:28 am UTC
Crab in my shoe mouth. We’re in Orlando, Florida, it’s November 1995. Ari Fink helps us dive into the adventurous 11/14/95 show. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 17, 2022
- 2:02 am UTC
Step into the Fleezer! We’re visiting the wild and strange and confounding music of Summer ‘95, focusing on 6/22/95 with longtime taper and fan Lenny Stubbe. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs.Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 14, 2022
- 2:43 am UTC
We’re joined by Undermine and Osiris team member Jonathan Hart to discuss THE Providence Bowie, from 12/29/94. In addition to breaking down this legendary jam, we look at Phish at the end of 1994 and where this show falls in that trajectory. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 12, 2022
- 2:28 am UTC
For this episode, we find ourselves at the first Phish musical costume Halloween, of course that’s 10/31/94. Our guest Aaron Stein joins us to discuss that wild night in Glens Falls, how it stacks up with other Halloweens, and more. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 10, 2022
- 2:57 am UTC
Today we go to Columbus for the amazing 6/22/94 show, with a person who not only was there, but who describes it as one of the two most important days of his life (aside from his birth). Scott Gray enlightens us on this life-changing experience, and some insight into why Trey was talking about tall…
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- Oct 7, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
The birth of the “Tweezerfest,” we dive into 5/7/94 with Relix editor-in-chief, author, and friend Dean Budnick. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs.Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Benjy Eisen. Produced…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 5, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
Happy New Year! It’s 12/31/93, and we’re gathered inside the aquarium for the celebration with our co-Executive Producer and friend Benjy Eisen, who is our special guest. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs.Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall,…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 3, 2022
- 2:02 am UTC
Today we are looking at a pivotal show in Phish’s history, 8/13/93 from the Murat Theater in Indianapolis. This show features the legendary version of “Bathtub Gin” which is seen as a turning point in the band’s ability to jam outside of the structure of their compositions. Charlie Dirksen and Brian Feller, two longtime fans…
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- Sep 30, 2022
- 2:41 am UTC
Today we stop in New Hampshire and dive into 5/8/93, which finds Phish at the end of the Spring 1993 tour. We’re joined by Brad Sands, Phish’s former road manager, who talks about the momentum in 1993, and how this show in Durham served as a homecoming for the band after a long time on…
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- Sep 28, 2022
- 6:01 am UTC
Today we’re rolling into 1993 with our guest Josh Carver, a longtime Osiris guest and listener. We talk with Josh about The Roxy show from 2/20/93. Josh actually missed this show, but he was at the Roxy shows before and after this infamous night. We all know that feeling. This show was another pivotal moment in…
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- Sep 26, 2022
- 2:27 am UTC
In this episode, we keep moving through 1992 and look at one of the most notable shows of the early years—7/25/92, which has an incredible guest appearance by Carlos Santana and his percussionists. Our guest for this episode is Shelly Culbertson, who worked with former manager John Paluska and Dionysian Productions. Shelly was involved with the…
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- Sep 23, 2022
- 2:35 am UTC
As the next step in our journey through key shows of the ‘90s, we stop in Eureka, California, and check in with a fellow Californian about this show—Holly Bowling. We focus on 4/21/92, a show that has an ahead-of-its-time Tweezer, which served as an inspiration for one of Holly’s famous jam transcriptions. We heard in previous…
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- Sep 21, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
Welcome back! As a reminder, from now through December, we’ll be tracking Phish’s progression in the 1990s by focusing on 25 important shows of the 90s—leading up to the tour that changed everything, Fall 1997. And we’ll discuss every show of Fall ‘97. Today we’re talking about Amy’s Farm, 8/3/91, with the one and only Amy…
- Under the Scales
- Sep 19, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
Welcome to Undermine Season 4! We are back to track the road to Fall ‘97, and to celebrate amazing shows of the 1990s while leading up to that legendary tour. From now through December, we’ll be tracking Phish’s progression in the 1990s by focusing on 25 important shows of the 90’s—leading up to the tour…
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- May 25, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
At the end of the 13 show Baker’s Dozen, a run filled with jams, bustouts, debut covers, and zero repeats, Phish was awarded a banner to commemorate the event that would hang in the rafters of MSG among legendary sports achievements. And yet, like with the best moments in Phish history, the band didn’t simply…
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- May 18, 2022
- 2:38 am UTC
When they returned from the hiatus in 2009, it took time for the band to regain their fluid improvisation. Over the next four years, they worked to strengthen their onstage communication, refine their approach, and ultimately reignite their jamming in 2012. From there, they began experimenting and taking risks, and by the time they reached…
- Under the Scales
- May 11, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
For as long as Phish fans have gathered to discuss and debate the band, the band’s setlists have been a consistent talking point. What songs are in the rotation, how do jams in typically non-jamming slots affect a show, why were there so many bustouts in a single show, what’s the thematic arc of the…
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- May 4, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
Throughout their history, Phish has constantly sought new ways to break down the barriers between their performance and their audience. Dubbed, The Long Gig (the LG), the band initially conceived of an indoor show where they’d announce to the audience that the doors were locking and they were going to play for 24hrs straight. This…
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- Apr 27, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
In the Summer of 2017 Phish settled into Madison Square Garden, “The World’s Most Famous Arena,” for a residency of 13 shows, immortalized as The Baker’s Dozen. Across nearly three weekends and four weekday gigs, Phish played 230+ songs without repeating a single one. They fused jokes from their past with music that looked ahead…
- Under the Scales
- Mar 24, 2022
- 2:00 am UTC
Hey there, Undermine fans! Please enjoy the first episode of our new fiction podcast: Sugar Maple. If you like what you hear, be sure to subscribe to see where the story goes!In the series premiere, we meet our narrator, Terrance Woodridge, who brings us a tale he’s chased down: the story of Sugar Maple, the…
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- Nov 24, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
At the onset of the 2020s, Trey Anastasio got stuck on a platform high above MSG. While he played through with humor and grace, the moment would serve as the prelude to a year where we all felt unhinged. For those who were infected by Covid, or lost loved ones, 2020 was a nightmare. For…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 17, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
To this point, Season 2 of Undermine has mirrored the fan experience with Phish—traveling to see them, engaging with the community, and trying to understand why we dedicate so much time, energy and money to this band. But what happens if you fall in love with Phish but have no ability to see them live…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 10, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
Beyond the tape trading, the road trips, the lot vibe, the people you meet, the lights dropping, etc, the reason we all come back to Phish is for the music. Why do people throw everything they have into this band? Why are we podcasting about them in 2021? Why are we trying to decipher all…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 3, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
And after all that, we go collect our thoughts and go back to waiting again for 15 minutes (they always promise it’ll be 15 minutes!). Setbreak is the time to get a grip back on reality, connect with neighbors, meet people, take a stroll, grab a bite, you name it. It’s the in between. Something…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 13, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
The anticipation has been building for hours, months…maybe even years. So many hours spent listening to shows, so much planning just to get you into the venue and in your spot for the moment we all wait for: when the lights finally drop. It’s a moment of ecstasy for many, a relief for others, and…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 8, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
Breaking Waves: Seattle is the story of the scene that defined rock in the ‘90s. The show traces the roots of grunge, and details the rise and fall of the Seattle scene, and concludes with a look forward, examining the legacy of grunge and highlighting the current and emerging artists who will create Seattle’s next…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 6, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
There’s that moment at every Phish show where we transition from the bliss of the pre-show party to the business at hand of the show itself. We walk in, get our seats, gaze at the stage, and realize how many of us there are to see this incredible band. With this comes the realization that…
- Under the Scales
- Sep 29, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
At first blush, hanging out in a parking lot doesn’t sound that fun. But the Phish parking lot experience is completely different—part bazaar, part sprawling tailgating party, it’s a place for people to meet, hang out, exchange money for goods, and start the good times before a concert. In this episode, we stroll through the lot,…
- Under the Scales
- Sep 22, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
When we think of the Phish community, we usually think about the obsessive, or at the very least, passionate, fans. However, behind the scenes, in every venue Phish plays in, there’s a community that works together to make sure that the show goes on—safely, smoothly, and in the most enjoyable way possible.In this episode, we…
- Under the Scales
- Sep 15, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
While many Phish fans in the early 90s discovered Phish by way of message boards and tape trades, the band solidified their status as one of the most important bands of the era through their unpredictable and thrilling live shows—and when you just had to hear, or see, the tour to understand the full story. In…
- Under the Scales
- Sep 8, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
In the early days of the internet, college kids from around the country began to congregate online to discuss Phish and trade information and live show tapes. Evolving alongside the internet itself, the community helped the band reach new fans, expand their sound and reach a level of success which few could have foreseen in…
- Under the Scales
- Aug 18, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
Undermine is the definitive Phish podcast. In Season 2 we’ll turn our focus to YOU, the Community. We’ve interviewed over 100 Phish fans to get to the heart of what’s shaped this community, how it originated, how it’s evolved, what issues persist, and how it’s communicated with each other over the the last 30 years.…
- Under the Scales
- Jul 28, 2021
- 7:41 am UTC
Phish tour is back, and so is the Helping Friendly Podcast! HF Pod On Tour will feature live video Quick Hits at 1pm the day after every show—on Osiris Media’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube channels.We’ll also have podcast episodes every Tuesday with a rundown of the tour thus far. Featuring great conversation, fans who…
- Under the Scales
- Apr 29, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
We have a special episode for you today, looking in depth at JamBase’s Cluster Flies, the covers compilation reimagining Phish’s album Farmhouse. The limited-edition 3LP release was mastered by engineer Joe Lambert and features custom artwork and a poster created by longtime Phish collaborator Jim Pollock. You can pre-order the LP and Pollock poster here…
- Under the Scales
- Apr 14, 2021
- 9:00 am UTC
Alive Again is a limited series podcast exploring the solo career of Trey Anastasio.Based on extensive interviews with Trey and his bandmates and collaborators, Alive Again will dive into evolution of Trey’s songwriting and creative development, as well as the enduring career of the Trey Anastasio Band.The show will also cover Trey’s memories composing with…
- Under the Scales
- Apr 7, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
On the season finale of Undermine, we hear from fans who saw Phish in the 1980s, and hear their perspectives on the band’s development as they grew from a college bar band into a regional phenomenon. In addition, we hear how tape trading first entered the Phish community, and how it fueled the band’s growth.…
- Under the Scales
- Mar 31, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
This week, we take a step back to examine Phish’s November 23, 1985 show at Goddard College, with a specific focus on the 27-min Whipping Post. During this show, Mike Gordon had an epiphany & decided he wanted to pursue music for the rest of his life. The jam in question shares a lot in…
- Under the Scales
- Mar 23, 2021
- 9:00 pm UTC
This week, we look at Phish’s legendary show from the Paradise Rock Club, in Boston, on January 26, 1989. In yet another example of Phish refusing to play by the rules set by mainstream music, the band rented out the room and sold tickets against it. We hear from one of the guys who was…
- Under the Scales
- Mar 17, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
In this episode of Undermine, Phish lyricist Tom Marshall guides us through the making and release of Junta, Phish’s first official debut album. Interviews with Junta audio engineer, Gordon Hookailo, Junta cover-artist Jim Pollock, Phish’s first manager Ben Hunter and others who remember this pivotal time in Phish history. Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company. Undermine…
- Under the Scales
- Mar 10, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
This week, we go Westward, to explore Phish’s trip to Colorado in 1988 in more detail, and to dive into the Mike’s Song from August 3, 1988. Dave and Brian also talk about King Crimson and Genesis, and the way those bands influenced Phish.Undermine is sponsored by Upslope Brewing Company. If you enjoy Undermine, please give…
- Under the Scales
- Mar 3, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
How did a college project about the mythical land of Gamehendge become one of the most intriguing pieces of Phish lore? And how did The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday fit into the evolution of Phish in the important years of 1987 and 1988?In this episode of Undermine, RJ, Matt, Jonathan and Brad discuss Phish…
- Under the Scales
- Feb 24, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
Core to the music of Phish are complex, evolving, emotionally moving compositions. Many of these early songs—Divided Sky, You Enjoy Myself, Foam, and others—remain highlights of the live experience. These songs created early in Phish’s career have stood the test of time, but what makes them so special? In this episode, we’ll hear about three of…
- Under the Scales
- Feb 17, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
Phish’s song David Bowie combines quirky lyrics with an intricate musical arrangement that’s fit for a symphony. Starting with a discussion of the spirit and substance of this song, and a focus on the 8/29/87 version, Brian Brinkman and David Goldstein then use 1980s Phish to examine other notable bands from the decade like Minutemen,…
- Under the Scales
- Feb 10, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
How did Phish go from playing cafeteria gigs at UVM to Madison Square Garden in only 10 years? We start to chart this path by looking at shows from 1983-1986, where intimate venues like Nectar’s and Doolin’s offered the band a chance to practice and refine their live sets. And at the same time, more…
- Under the Scales
- Feb 3, 2021
- 2:00 am UTC
How did a band with no major label from a small city in Northern Vermont become one of the biggest bands in music within a decade? What were the origins of Phish and what laid the foundation for their cultural timeline and organic growth?In the first episode of Undermine, Phish lyricist Tom Marshall brings in…
- Under the Scales
- Jan 13, 2021
- 12:00 am UTC
Undermine is the definitive Phish podcast. The first season will focus on Phish’s genesis in the 1980s—through deep-dives into the music, shows and songs; interviews with people who were there for the early years; and discussion about the lasting impact of these foundational years. Undermine is a combination of Under the Scales, Helping Friendly Podcast…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 28, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
This is the final Under the Scales episode! We are merging with two other Phish podcasts to form Undermine, a new weekly podcast starting in February 2021.In this episode, friend and Osiris colleague Mike Finoia joins Tom to discuss the song Two Versions of Me, a Phish song written in 2003.If you are currently an…
- Under the Scales
- Dec 7, 2020
- 2:00 am UTC
UNDERMINE comes to life!! What is Undermine? It’s a new podcast!!! It is nothing short of the biggest and best Phish podcast ever. The “Big Three” Osiris Phish podcasts, Under the Scales, Helping Friendly Podcast and Beyond the Pond are merging to form the new go-to WEEKLY Phish podcast, Undermine. Weekly we said, you read…
- Under the Scales
- Nov 30, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
Tom is joined by fellow Osiris podcaster Mike Finoia (Comes a Time). Mike pilots the submarine as they do a deep dive into the 1998 Phish song Mountains in the Mist. Awaken beasts! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
- Under the Scales
- Nov 2, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
This November, the top 3 Osiris Phish podcasts are focusing on November 1995 – a great era in Phish history. Under the Scales welcomes back Brad Sands who appeared two years ago on Episode 40 in June 2018. Brad and Tom today discuss Phish’s November 1995. Coming after their ambitious cover of The Who’s Quadrophenia…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 26, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
Fall 2000 was a tumultuous time — politics were dividing the country, the internet was advancing faster than society could keep up, and the recording industry was undergoing major change. We take another look at this time through the lens of another band, Radiohead. Steven Hyden, author of a great book “This isn’t Happening” about Radiohead’s…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 5, 2020
- 1:15 am UTC
As part of the Osiris Phish podcast ‘October Project’, along with Beyond the Pond and HF Pod, we are examining Phish’s epic Fall 2000 tour. In this second of two episodes, Tom interviews John Paluska who was Phish’s first manager. John sheds light on Phish’s decision to take their first hiatus after playing hard on…
- Under the Scales
- Oct 5, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
As part of the Osiris Phish podcast ‘October Project’, along with Beyond the Pond and HF Pod, we are examining Phish’s epic Fall 2000 tour. In this first of two episodes, Tom interviews Andy Gadiel, the founder of Jambase, who was at every show for the latter part of this tour. Andy sheds light from…
- Under the Scales
- Sep 21, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
RJ and Tom dive deeply to examine the Phish song Leaves. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
- Under the Scales
- Sep 7, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
Tom talks with Bob Lefsetz, music industry analyst, author, podcaster and Phish fan about the state of music in the world today.Check out the Lefsetz Letter archive: https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/Subscribe to the Lefsetz Letter: https://lefsetz.com/lists/?p=subscribe&id=1 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
- Under the Scales
- Aug 17, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
RJ Bee and Tom take a deep dive into the lyrics of Chalkdust Torture See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
- Under the Scales
- Aug 3, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
Tom speaks to the multiple grammy-winning producer, engineer and mixer responsible for so much of the great music we all listen to, Vance Powell. Recently having completed co-production of Sigma Oasis, he tells us how he got here and about some of the other fantastic artists who rely upon him to create their own signature…
- Under the Scales
- Jul 30, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
RJ Bee and Tom take a deep dive into the lyrics of Evening Song See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
- Under the Scales
- Jul 27, 2020
- 10:51 am UTC
This episode is a rebroadcast from June 2018: Osiris co-founder RJ Bee interviews Tom on Under the Scales for the 20th anniversary of Phish’s album Story of the Ghost. Tom & RJ call a special guest to answer some additional questions.We are sadly unable to deliver a new episode as planned this week due to…
- Under the Scales
- Jul 13, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
Tom is joined by a very special guest for the new Under the Scales season premier. Don Hart is a Nashville composer and arranger, and has been working with Trey since 2004 to add beautiful orchestration to so many of his songs. Don discusses working with Trey, and their technique, and illuminates the details behind…
- Under the Scales
- Jul 7, 2020
- 6:30 pm UTC
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- Under the Scales
- Jun 22, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
The secrets and stories behind the Pharmers Almanac Volume 6, bible to Phish fans when it came out in October 2000, are told by its creator Kevin Cassels. Fly backwards 20 years into Phish’s remarkable history with Kevin and Tom.Recorded by Julia Shuster See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
- Under the Scales
- May 25, 2020
- 1:00 am UTC
The wonderful bluegrass sensation Billy Strings is on the show! Billy shares 5 important songs with Tom and explains how they influenced his career. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.