I want this thread to be a collective entity with the purpose of proving to Umph-haters that they don't "improvise" in the vein that could be described as "Type II". I sorta dislike the terminology "Type II", since it comes from overanalytical Phishies, but I dislike it when Umphrey's gets dismissed by Phishies and Biscoites.
To dismiss the jackasses who will come in and undoubtedly say that "Umphrey's doesn't Type II jam, fact", I'm going to post a commonly accepted definition for what a Type II jam is. If your opinion differs from mine, all I ask is that you use musical knowledge and reasoning to justify your stance. You may not diss Kris Meyers using electronic drum pads, at any point. Percussion diversity is something Umphrey's and moe. can say they do better than the other jam bands.
What is a type II jam? "Jams which completely improvise the notes, tempo, and structure of the music." The end up sound like nothing of the original song, and are different from Jazz jams in that they usually originate from a type I jam during a song. Does anyone have a problem with this definition?
Here's the first song I'm going to provide as an example. I hope other Umphrey's lovers will back me up on here, but if not, I will glady keep picking through my catalog for water to douse the Haterade sippers with.
Plunger, 2007, Truckee, CA