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VOTING DOESN'T WORK
phunkadelic420
phunkadelic420
10/10/2008 08:52 AM

I hear all these musicians urging people to vote as if we somehow have power over who is elected in this country, however this is not the case. Over 40% of counties in the US have voting machines which can easily be manipulated and have there results changed from remote locations. The voting system in this country has become privatized (Diebold) and the public is no longer involved in the process of counting the votes and preventing fraud. We need to revert back to paper ballots which are hand counted rather than relying on privatized voting machines. For more information on protecting the count visit

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

for more info on flawed voting machines visit

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phunkadelic420
phunkadelic420
10/10/2008 08:54 AM

for more info on flawed voting machines visit

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=72769224&blogID=234064330

barry2
barry2
10/10/2008 09:04 AM

also, the amount of voter fraud by groups like acorn really take its toll as well...this is but a few of many stories on the fraud of acorn.....scary that they will purposefully undermind the voting process, do they not think obama can win this on the up and up??

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/news/politics/1_voter__72_registrations_132965.htm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_ge/voter_fraud

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-vote-fraud_frioct10,0,2159694.story

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081010/NEWS0502/810100471

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7195

Lakai2788
Lakai2788
10/10/2008 09:44 AM

this is why people need to become more involved in their local elections and try to vote for honest people we need to re staff our entire gov't but we have to start from the bottom.

FunkThompson
FunkThompson
10/10/2008 11:11 AM

The trouble with politics, is that we keep electing politicians.

phalluscooper
phalluscooper
10/14/2008 02:02 PM

Mica - The ACORN fraud is disgusting... I'm a little confused over all of the hoopla though. These crackheads, dead people and Dallas Cowboy players will need to show up at the polls with a valid photo ID and actually vote. Albeit very unethical and illegal I question how this can create and edge for a presidential candidate.

barry2
barry2
10/14/2008 02:38 PM

they don't require a driver's liscense photo id to vote by mail, early vote, or even sometimes in person.......so there are many ways to vote illegally....and the fraud by acorn is certainly creating an edge for obama...if a person can vote multiple times it kind of makes for a corrupt system.....if dead people can vote, it makes for a corrupt system....i agree with you that JUST having people illegally REGISTERED to vote dosn't really sway things one way or another...but those people got registered to actually vote, and once they actually VOTE (illegally) it has corrupted the system...those dead people, or multiple registered people within a state, or registered in multiple states did this for a reason...to actually vote...and it's a safe assumption some of them will find a way to have their vote counted (early vote, mail vote, or other means)

ISEEDEADPEOPLEDA…
ISEEDEADPEOPLEDA…
10/15/2008 05:53 AM

Thanks alot, phunkadelic. I value your right to input, but it's hard for me to take someone seriously who presents a case and doesn't know the difference in "there", "their", and "they're". Just like I can't take a president seriously who can't pronounce nuclear. NEW-CLEE-ER. not NEW-Q-LUR.

leadhead
leadhead
10/15/2008 07:36 AM

I'm stickin' to the old tried and true philosophy: "Vote early and often."

Lightenupyourload
Lightenupyourload
10/15/2008 08:07 AM

obama deserves an edge after the voting fraud in 2000 and 2004! if either of those elections went the way they were supposed to we wouldn't be in the trouble we are today. gore would be in office, and dubya would be running against hillary. but honestly these accusations of voter fraud are just an attempt for repubs to start playing the blame game of why mccain's not going to win in nov. he made his bed when he picked palin. and after 30 years of service, he chose to go out as a puppet.

FunkThompson
FunkThompson
10/16/2008 01:38 PM

Voting Machines or no, voting fraud is a possibility, from either side. Most of it gets caught before the actual deed, that which does not rarely results in any change to the outcome.

But don't think "our voting system is flawed" means "voting does no good." No voting fraud can overcome a landslide election.

So, vote, whether you think your vote counts or not.

Remember that the republicans are *always* trying to get people not to vote, the democrats are *always* trying to get people to vote. There is a very simple reason for this; think about it.

phalluscooper
phalluscooper
10/17/2008 11:35 AM

This is somewhat to Funk's final comment about partisan voting attitudes:

We have a Republican backed proposition (105) on the Arizona ballet that if approved will count all registered non participating voters as a "NO" vote in a process that they don't even partake in. Therefore initiatives can be introduced and passed by the smallest number of participating "YES" voters. Backers included our Republican senators and congressmen, the NRA and a host of others. The Republican spin on the proposition is "stop letting special interests increase your taxes".

Lightenupyourload
Lightenupyourload
10/17/2008 01:18 PM

Here's a funny 20/20 segment w/ interview of Headcount's Andy Bernstein and Marc Brownstein along w/ interviews of some heads trying to answer questions about our govt. - it poses the questions that maybe some people shouldn't vote b/c they're not educated enough about govt. to do so responsibly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvl0lqhCVio

dweniger
dweniger
10/21/2008 04:16 PM

why does it really matter how many people vote?? the majority of people in this country know nothing about politics, basic economics, foreign policy, and etc. These people vote on how much free stuff they can get from the govt not whats best for our country. Both parties are relatively the same and we keep voting for the lesser of two evils just so our "team" wins and not the other (both sides do it). So instead of real change we keep getting the same old politicians just like McCain and Obama.

dweniger
dweniger
10/21/2008 04:16 PM

why does it really matter how many people vote?? the majority of people in this country know nothing about politics, basic economics, foreign policy, and etc. These people vote on how much free stuff they can get from the govt not whats best for our country. Both parties are relatively the same and we keep voting for the lesser of two evils just so our "team" wins and not the other (both sides do it). So instead of real change we keep getting the same old politicians just like McCain and Obama.

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