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ISEEDEADPEOPLEDA…
ISEEDEADPEOPLEDA…
10/2/2008 12:53 PM

i'd feel better about him if i thought for a second that he could raise his arms over his head

brklynns
brklynns
10/2/2008 01:17 PM

he can't because then the mask would raise up and you would see the 'real' neck.. i wonder who's under there anyway..hmmmm

barry2
barry2
10/2/2008 02:45 PM

you guys are weak....of course the thing is rigged from the get go......her book IS pro obama......she stands to make anywhere from a few hundred thousand $ to several hundreds of thousands of $$ on a bestseller if obama gets elected....if not elected her book is worth diddley squat....so she has not only a philisophical conflict of interest being the moderator, she has a financial conflict of interest......

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if you think differently than that then i guess you wouldn't mind rush limbaugh moderating the next debate.....that's the equivalent........and if he were i KNOW all of you would be throwing hissy fits.....well think about it from the other perspective and you can understand why we on the other side of the debate think this is a set up from the beginning

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and the crap about how mccain looks or how far he can reach his arms up is childish...he can't lift arms because they were broken multiple times during his time in vietnam without proper medical care to regulate the healing they healed where he can't lift them up....big f'ing deal

kizzy1
kizzy1
10/2/2008 03:04 PM

the scariest thing is there is a ton of fuckin wacked people that think palin is just the cats pajamas ! i mean i have heard people say shit like " i really like her , she will really shake things up " etc... i mean people think she is a champion for working mothers all over the country or something... i dunno its just strange. and scary.

sndtribefreak
sndtribefreak
10/2/2008 06:42 PM

Ya'll are fucking sick. Are you really making fun of a man that can't lift his arms over his head because he was beaten and tortured for five years in a Vietnam prison and came out alive. How could you guys say that about someone wheter they be Republican, Democratic or whatever. I guess you guys represent the kinda trash that is voting for Obama.

brklynns
brklynns
10/3/2008 07:50 AM

i'll try to keep the maturity up like you guys... ya'll are F'n weak...

first off, i didn't say anything about his arms... second, i think he looks like a puppet, so what, i also think he will be a horrible president and his vp choice is a total idiot. i have stated my views and thoughts about the candidates here once too many, so i'm not doing it again, but don't come on here and be some self rightous ass telling obmama voters they're trash over some comments made by others. sndtribe you have yet to say ANYTHING intelligent on these boards so anything coming from you, means,, um, well, shit.

brklynns
brklynns
10/3/2008 08:28 AM

okay okay, my second post was in poor taste, as it related to the arm thing, i do respect Mccain in that he served our country, so it is rude to joke about something that happened to him while serving. still think he looks like he wears a mask though.

Danimal
Danimal
10/3/2008 09:42 AM

Plenty of people have been injured worse than him serving our country. Doesn't make him special or any more qualified to be president.

Ierner
Ierner
10/3/2008 10:03 AM

^word

barry2
barry2
10/3/2008 01:19 PM

no one is saying that his injury makes him more qualified..his service in the military might make him more qualified, but not the injury per se.........

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and i gotta admit when i'm wrong....gwenn iffel did a fine job moderating....i didn't think she showed any prejudices

ISEEDEADPEOPLEDA…
ISEEDEADPEOPLEDA…
10/6/2008 06:11 AM

brooklynn, you don't have to apologize for anything, Boo! and so what i gave a little joke about his arms there, micapawgroove?? big deal. lighten up. it's just a joke. i mean, what if the nuclear launch button is on the top shelf over his head?? huh?? what then?? man there are some cry babies on here.

barry2
barry2
10/6/2008 08:57 AM

i don't think calling the attacks (on physical qualities of mccain) "childish" qualifies me as a crybaby....

delaneyira
delaneyira
10/9/2008 11:24 AM

Heres the deal, the two party system has been controlled by the same agenda. The COUNCIL ON FORIEGN RELATIONS is bassically the brain of the two party system. Although in reality the over arching agenda of both parties is essencially the same they put out the two party system to fool the public into thinking they are actually choosing something. Im sorry folks for the past 100 years we have been given false choices and that is why, no matter if its a democrat or a republican, the policy of consolidation of power and money continues, even during periods of apparent economic "boom". It is just as georgetown professor and CFR historian Dr. Carrol Quigley put in his 1000page+ book "tragedy and hope"... The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead the two parties should be almost identical, so the that American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." Quigley, 1247-1248" ...To all you out there who thought clinton is a good guy please note that this guy was clintons mentor. He stated this fact in one of his state of the unions. You see, clinton bassically set the stage for the economic collapse were seeing. First he presided over an enormous inflation, we are just now feeling that inflation, its always delayed. Second he signed NAFTA which allowed corporations to move manufacturing south of the boarder. This had two effects, 1) it allowed the corps to reap huge profits due to the decreased wages and 2) allowed clinton to claim a booming because it was american corporations that were claiming the profits, unfortunately while the corps had an economic boom the people had thier living standards reduced because they were forced to accept low skilled jobs in the service sector as opposed to high skilled jobs in manufacturing, so in reality what clinton did hurt this country terribly. A point of farsical bitter irony is the man we can thank for our comfortable 90's living is saddam husein. Do you remember gas was at 99cents a gallon? That was because saddam was dumping crude oil onto the global market reducing prices. He did this because he was bitter that bush sr betrayed him and hung him out to dry. This is the real reason for the Iraq war, it wasnt to steal the oil, it was to make sure iraqs oil stayed in the ground. Bush declared mission accomplished way before the conflict had ended because as he saw it, gas was at $2.50+ and the people were back to struggling, mission accomplished. So clinton set them up! G W Bush knocked them down. This is where the establishment wants everyone, struggling, it makes them easier to control. "Keep the sheeple busy on the farm with the other animals" Control! That is the name of the game and it is the false left right paradigm which keeps people under control. As the two parties put pressure on each other by making it a shouting match over gay marriage and other petty issues they prop up the system which doesnt let us decide on important issues like monetary policy and civil liberties. Do you hear obama saying hes going to repeal the patriot act? didnt think so, do you hear mccain saying he is going to stop the sovietization of banking? No! This is because they are puppets who lean against each other thus allowing the new world order govt system to prop itself up on top of it. The point to take away here is that in order to make a real differnce,in order to effect real change, in order to stick it to the establishment, DONT FUCKING VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES. Vote for chuck baldwin, cynthia mckinney, !!RON PAUL!!, RALPH NADAR. Fucking write them in if you have too. Dont bitch about how they are never going to win, your not trying to choose the winner, your voting for who you believe will represent YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU!!! FUCKING YOU!!! better, who you think will ultimately win shouldnt even be factored into the equation. It is clear that neither of the major parties represent the people instead they represent a group of private international bankers who parasitically steal from the people like a cancer consumes its host. So please dont waste your vote on mcbama...

Ierner
Ierner
10/9/2008 11:27 AM

WOW. I'm not going to read that?

delaneyira
delaneyira
10/10/2008 09:05 AM

Of course not, and that is why, year after year, election after election, event after event, war after war, economic colapse after economic collapse you will continue to make the stupid decision and be herded like a stupid head of cattle. Keep refusing to take personal responsibility and you will end up in a concentration camp, which have already been built by haliburton, congressman daniel hamburg blew the whistle on this earlier this year in the sanfrancisco chronicle. WE will be working for corporate govt if YOU will not wake up.

Allow me to define YOU. YOU= all the people out there who support mccain or obama. McBama. All you people fighting with each other over which color the velvet glove that covers the iron fist will be. They are bassically two different brands of the same product. Its pathetic.

So, you think your so smart. Did you know that the govt actually has been telling you, explicitly i must emphasize, that they are helping criminals? This fact has blown over most americans heads and it involves the bailout. Now, to preempt all the self assure chattle out there that are saying, "oh, your not telling me anything new, we know te bailout is rediculous" i would like to say this. Why arent you standing in front of the closest federal reserve bank in your area? I have, i almost got arrested. Let me ask you a question... From where does someone get bailed out from? Jail... For what? Alleged criminal activity. So the fact that they are calling it a bailout is the way the govt tells you to your face that they 1) work for the private bankers who caused the economic collapse and 2) they are willing to bail them out using OUR money. What does that make us? A SLAVE! Notice how both obama and mccain, or from now on mcbama, supported the bailout. This is what i meant in the previous article about false choices. So we get to choose if we want endless war in iraq and iran or endless war in afganistan and pakistan. We dont get to choose whether or not we even want to be at war in the first place. No, that would hurt the bankers and weapons contractors profits so no, they arent going to go for that, and both parties agree on that. We get to choose what form flavor of socialism, mccain is corporate fascism and obama is grassroots-fascism which would resemble a more communist flavor. But you dont get to choose whether you want big govt or not. False choice. One question that has been completely left out is do we even want to bailout the criminal bankers who caused this economy to colapse. Nope, congress was threatened with marshal law and the pathetic criminal congress passed it.

Please, wake up and get smart to this whole system. Look at the false choice in the last election. Skull and bones kerry vs. skull and bones bush.

All this stary eyed optimism about mcbama changing something is nothing more than childish wishful thinking. If you wish to go against the establishment this election, then dont vote for either of the two establishment candidates. There are a number of third party candidates which would immediatly put an end to this criminal govt system and re-establish a constituitional republic like our founding fathers formed. There is great hope for change in this country but people have to get smart and stop falling for all the traps that the new world order puts in front of you.

Quetions: Do either of the candidates say they are going to repeal the patriot act? NO

Do either of the candidates say they are going to bring ALL of our troops home immediatly? NO

Do either of the candidates say they are going to cut back the govt spending? NO

Do eitehr of the candidates talk about the constituition? NO!

Does McBama talk about shutting down the parasitic PRIVATE federal reserve system? HELL NO!!

One more question, why the fuck are YOU going to vote for eitehr of them!!!

DO NOT BE HERDED, YOU ARE A HUMAN, NOT A GOD DAMN DOMESTICATED ANIMAL!

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