TREY ANASTASIO: THE HOPE OF A NEW SONG

 
I just don't know what I would do without it [music]. Life would just be one bleak, horrible, awful, terrible, awkward social situation to the next. It's the only thing that keeps me going, to be perfectly honest: the hope that some new song is gonna come around the corner.

-Trey Anastasio

 

Artists realize that by making their work public, they are opening the gates to both heaven and hell. Public scrutiny is inevitable, perhaps even necessary. But no matter how deeply or critically you explore Trey's work, the simple fact remains that he's a genius. When he is at his best, he is one of rock's most remarkable improvisational guitarists. Like the artists who inspire him - Miles, Young, Dylan - Trey seems able to tap into the cosmos and connect with something for which we have no words. As Police drummer and Oysterhead cohort Stewart Copeland recently said, "Trey is a force of nature." If you've seen Trey at those moments when he's lost in sound, drool almost dripping out of the corner of his mouth, you can attest to that.


Trey Anastasio by Tony Stack
"What I'm doing when I'm staring out over the crowd," he explains, "I'm listening for the music coming out of the air and then I'm just playing that. A lot of times I try to just stare up into the lights till they sort of blind me and I start to see colors and stuff. And if I look right into the lights, my glasses have moisture on them so they start to break into prisms and stuff and then voom, I'm gone."

Trey Anastasio is the rare kind of artist who can help us expand our horizons beyond our little sliver of the world. "You're never supposed to actually get [to perfection]; you are an imperfect human being, you're broken," he says. "But if you can point for a second, maybe in a way like developing a skill - guitar playing, painting, plumbing, anything - and you just point out a little bit that there's something bigger than us, God or whatever, then you are doing a service to people because then they can have that ten seconds of time when the car drives by [with music coming out the window] and they can be saved for a second from the drudgery of life."

When Trey talks about playing guitar, it's impossible not to get caught up in his passion. He was clearly put on this planet to play music; at times it seems like sound is all he has. Time and again, he makes reference to how music "saves" him: "It's the only place I can live. It just saves me many, many different times a day, in the weirdest ways, and it's kinda always been that way."

Music is his salvation, but it's also his main form of interaction with the rest of the world. "It's the most emotionally available form of communication I've found by far, going both directions," he says. "I can reveal my own emotions in a much safer way than talking. I get really tangled up when I try to talk, I do the best I can, but sometimes with playing music, it's safe. Like I can be really, really, really sad or really, really happy and express that to someone without fear of reprisal. So there's that, but then there's also just the music itself, just melody and harmony can tear me up. I just don't know what I would do without it. Life would just be one bleak, horrible, awful, terrible, awkward social situation to the next.

"It's the only thing that keeps me going, to be perfectly honest: the hope that some new song is gonna come around the corner."

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Comments

phishyflanker starstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 01:23PM
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Thanks for the great article--clean writing. Trey has done more for most of our ears than we'd probably like to admit. Best of luck on the journey.

matthau starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 01:43PM
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Thank you Kayceman ! That was one of the finest articles I have ever read about Trey. The man is an artist of the highest caliber, a true visionary and trailblazer. What the future holds for big red, none of us know. But we do know that we can all expect daring and unexpected surprises from one of the finest guitar voices of our times.

bwakerwsp Tue 10/17/2006 01:55PM
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Trey will always have red hair...

jerryil starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 02:03PM
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jerryil

I repsect Trey for all of the reasons and more that I truly appreciate and respect Robbie Robertson. If you don't know what I mean, wacth the Last Waltz. What Robbie has to say at the very end will blow your mind. Thanks again Trey for reminding us that there is an energy out there that we are ALL connected to.

MaseBase starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 02:06PM
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MaseBase

Kayceman! Sick article, seriously. I'll admit, I was strongly turned off by his last 2 albums but you really put it into perspective here. He is definitely a force of nature and nothing he does now will ever take that away! The phish shows and jams - drool and all - are not going away and that makes me very happy. Even though I won't be logging a lot of time on these new records of his, I'll still anxiously await the next ones.

Phrench starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 02:10PM
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Good work Kayceman really! I know when it comes to him all it takes is a few good questions and the article writes itself, but this was well done. Kudos.

Michael Jurick starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 02:11PM
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Michael Jurick

Very enjoyable read. Excellent job Kayce! We all new that there would be a transition period when Trey broke up Phish. This story just makes you appreciate Trey all the more for what he's trying to accomplish.

Rebacreates Tue 10/17/2006 02:23PM
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What silly pictures.

"I'm Serious"

"I'm Happy"

"I'm in a dark ally ready to pic a fight"

earlofkent Tue 10/17/2006 02:31PM
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earlofkent

Question:

Who does Gayce Man blow more, Trey or Dave Schools?

Does Trey piss gold and shit diamonds?

letshavesomefun starstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 02:31PM
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I must admit that this was a great article. However Trey's goal is to be known by his one name. Trey. He wants the glory for himself. He wants to be built up to the likes of Miles Davis, Jerry Garcia, Bob Dylan. and so forth.

Phish will be back in a matter of time. Whether it is two years or ten. One day they will be back. He can't keep playing for 2000 people forever. The spotlight was on Phish and theirs nothing greater out their then Phish. The likes of a band that huge, that popular, may never be seen in our lifetime. Especially being a jamband.

I said when they called it quites that Phish would be back in 5 years. its been 2. And the idea of bringing Phish back together is on all of their minds. So if were all lucky enough will be seein them in 3.

PEACE

Ching starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 02:56PM
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Oh gawd some of you are such whiny babies...You know what...If it wasnt for PHISH or Dead there wouldnt be a Jambase...like him or not...But hes a Genius...FACT...get over it...:)

HOPEFULPHAN starstar Tue 10/17/2006 03:16PM
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phish is my favorite band.phish.not the trey show. trey get your ego in check. myself and the other 85 thousand people didnt go to places like big cypress to see just you we went to see PHISH!

treen starstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 03:26PM
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This article is loaded with contradictions (all of them stemming from Trey). Ex (of many): Kayce writes that Trey is happier now than he's been in forever...yet some of his quotes make him sound so depressed about life in general...
Trey, when you were playing with phish you brightened so many people's lives...sorry the organization got out of control, but what does that have to do with the music?

All Loving Liberal White Guy Tue 10/17/2006 03:27PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

trey is was great in phish, but his legacy would have been even greater had he deicided not to make music after their breakup. i think that he just kept on churning out solo releases to stroke his ego. sad truth is that he is merely a has been on par with the likes of vanilla ice, leif erikson and johnny drama from entourage.

gonePHISHin2 Tue 10/17/2006 03:29PM
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I agree with a lot of these people. STOP COMPLAINING! There is so much awesome music out there to listen to. Phish is the excellent and Trey is great, awesome. I want to see them come back just like we all do but everyone needs to shut up and move on. Quit bitchin about Trey's solo tour, nothing is gonna compare to Trey during phish so let it be. Go see Umphrey's or Medeski to fill the time until Phish comes back, that what I'm doing. It's working out great. Hooray Umphreaks!

All Loving Liberal White Guy Tue 10/17/2006 03:31PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

p.s., whether you love em of hate 'em you gotta give kudos to kayceman for doing a good job in how he wrote this article. this dude could write up an article on something as boring as televised seinor golf and it would still be an in depth and interesting read.

ScatBeN starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 03:36PM
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Look. I do believe Phish will play together again, but it won't be because the band is desperate to get back together. It will be because they have fun doing it, and they want to get out and live that experience a little more.

Right now, we all, as music fans, need to respect what Trey is doing with his time. He owes it to himself to branch out and see what he can come up with. I live in New Orleans and have been extremely turned on to the music scene down here (for obvious reason). The special thing about the scene down here is that musicians rarely will play with the same guys more than once a week, if that much at all. People like George Porter Jr. or Stanton Moore, instead of playing with their biggest gigs, play random shows with random people on almost a nightly basis. This gives them the opportunity to be turned on to all different types of influences and allow their music to branch out naturally. This, in turn, drives forward the work they then do with their main gigs. Without the opportunity and freedom to explore, their progress would not have evolved in the way it has.

So get off Trey's back and let him do what he wants. He's a fantastic musician who has given a ton to all of us. The least we can do in return is let him evolve as he so desires.

luap Tue 10/17/2006 03:37PM
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Great story, Trey is God, anyone who has the audacity to shit on him does not know what good music is all about, Trey is alway's exploring new horizon's and boundrys of music and guitar. Go Trey!! can't wait to see you friday night in Vegas! Whooooooooooooooooooooo!

Shwompy starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 03:56PM
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Shwompy

"My dream is that one person one day would hear some song that I wrote and have it brighten their day a little bit," he says. "I absolutely live for that, and if that can happen, then it would make me really, really happy. That's pretty much the extent of my wanting to have a hit."

This happends anytime i turn on something has to do with trey, even if its his solo albums or a phish show, it still gives me a smile and makes my day that much better.

m00ns starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 04:02PM
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m00ns

i'm old school phish but this is a great artical i just caught trey the 13th man it was great i've seen trey a couple times and wasnt feeling it but i feel he has found his self again it was the the phish trey i remember playing those sick sounds up there Shine on trey !

SoniqV starstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 04:18PM
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I want to like Trey's solo work. Instrumentally it's getting better. Something clicked with GRAB, and Trey's running with it now (thanks in no small part to Jeff Sipe). Still, I just cannot stomach sappy lyrics, cathartic as they may be for some people. That's what attracted me to Phish in the first place: I was so sick of the emotional nature of pop music, which has only snowballed since the early 90's, that their prankster-like qualities really clicked. (Not to mention being completely floored by the compostional framework.) But I guess one can only be a prankster for so long...

Midlife crises last 3-10 years in the average male.
See you all in 1 to 8.

Lord-K. star Tue 10/17/2006 04:24PM
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Lord-K.

i guess i'll understand when i am 42.......Cayman Review=kayceman review, think about it ;0

jamarama starstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 04:50PM
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What I'm doing when I'm staring out over the crowd is, I'm listening for the music coming out of the air and then I'm just playing that... And if I look right into the lights, my glasses have moisture on them so they start to break into prisms and stuff and then voom, I'm gone.
-Trey Anastasio

awsome

vanilla starstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 05:08PM
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no they haven't dropped an album in the rolling stone/jamband scene spot-light, but i would like to see an interview with page, fish, and/or gordon and see how they feel about post-phish turn...

"...Trey at those moments when he's lost in sound, drool almost dripping out of the corner of his mouth, you can attest to that."...agreed

jhacketh1 starstar Tue 10/17/2006 07:25PM
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jhacketh1

I agree with a few of the previous posts about interviewing other members of phish. Of all of them, Mike has found the most success and greatest sound. Kottke/Gordon and The Trio are some of the best music I've heard period. What about Fishman and Everything Orchestra or Touchpants? Page is about to release a new album that may have more pop success than Trey....we've heard it a million times. He rips, he's moving on. Big deal.

cofor20 starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 08:29PM
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cofor20

"My dream is that one person one day would hear some song that I wrote and have it brighten their day a little bit,"
your dream has come true many times over.
Salvation thru music!

astroworms Tue 10/17/2006 08:32PM
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astroworms

I <3 trey

joshmillerphoto starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 09:03PM
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joshmillerphoto

great work, Kayce. It was an inspiring read. I enjoy hearing Trey speak...he sounds like a passionate, sincere guy who just wants to do the right thing and has a hard time when folks come down hard on him. Personally, I've had a blast listening to him and Phish throughout the years and hope he continues to have a good time with his music. thanks for gettin' the word out. -jm

graceboxer starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 09:51PM
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Thank you Kayman! Trey is great at anything he does. Oysterhead do I dare say more. I think everyone is this family can say that no matter what he does, or if phish ever gets back together, he will always get mad respect. He is an icon. I agree with Trey that Dave Matthews is one of the most passionate artist of this time. He does not get the respect from the family because he has hits. That sad! I want more Dave and Trey they make an unbeatable team! We love you Trey!

BGsteveBG Tue 10/17/2006 10:01PM
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BGsteveBG

Phish will get back together.

Until then, if Trey keeps putting together projects like GRAB... we'll all be okay.


Wilson75 starstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 10:44PM
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Trey....you rock
Keep it coming

jcharlen starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 10:56PM
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Trey is bueno. If you don't get it, why waste your time writing negative comments on Jambase when you could be looking at porn?


ambrosiajam starstarstarstar Tue 10/17/2006 11:34PM
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trey will never be good again unless he finds me and jams with me because everyone things trey is god, but hes not god unless hes got people to be with. I'M GOD TOO! but oh yeah, my dad wasnt a hockey coach, he was a junkie, so i have aura of an asshole, and when i try to be inspirational, my nowhere-talks just get me and everyone else confused, but when i jam i can tap into "IT" just as easily as any other god. Its all about the life-force and the greater spirit, and i know this, and thats why i can orchestrate trey if i get in the right spot. its something you just feel. another thing-if trey were to just pick someone, some kid, and make them a star, thats what would make trey truly unselfish and that would be totally unexpected. so...trey... if you're reading this, please figure out who i am and snatch me out of this hole and make me who i am supposed to be, not this form tossed into the world. how does that make you feel? thats what i thought, just something to make you think and feel...nobody will ever do anything for me or with me, i need to climb the god damned mountain myself. Trey, wont you be an angel and lift me from the scum and dirt and cracks of the pit and let me command the energies with you? i'm begging you!

thank you for reading my lovely comment and i hope its not my last chance at success...

Greenjah starstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 05:53AM
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Greenjah

"It's hard for me because, on the one hand, I care so much about the fans, so it genuinely upsets me after 20 years of seeing joy etched all over peoples faces to suddenly have people be really mad. But I know in my heart what I need to do, so that's what you do, period."

Kudos to Trey for realizing these really "mad people" are of no consequence to what he's attempting to accomplish post-Phish.

cliftonhanger420 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 06:24AM
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Even though i'm not a big fan of bar 17, i have been a fan of Phish and Trey's for about 15 years now. I actually liked Shine the best out of the last 3 solo albums, even though some may not agree with me. it's all better live anyway, but at times i have felt the solo stuff is overkill. i liked the orchestrated changes of Phish tunes that i haven't really heard for awhile, but Goodbye Head over the summer, showed me some new possibilities ( i really like that tune). I hope Trey gets his shit together and we all need room to grow and i respect that. keeping up his health is important and a lesson to all of us. life is short and we need to make the best of it. i understand what he means about the big overhead that Phish had, where it starts controlling them. just like with the grateful dead in 1990, when Brent Mydland died, they didn't even take a well needed break, almost like they couldn't, they kept on truckin' and jerry was exhausted. RIP I don't think i agreed with WSP going when i believe, correct me if i'm wrong, Michael Houser died in the middle of a summer tour and they didn't miss a show and had backup playing with him even before he was gone. Trey needs to be around for a long time to keep busting out these phat jams. i think he'll be back with Phish and i think he'll be back with a vengeance. maybe i'm just wishin' and hopin' Phish gave me a lot of great memories and i traveled all around the country to see those boys play and i like them all equally. Keep doing what you're doing best trey and i hope to see you on Phish tour sometime in the future. God bless you and keep drooling buddy. i think of the flinstones, that little green guy that flots in the sky and talks to fred, i always thought you were talking to that guy. you not only drool, but you always looked like you were talking to him too. Phish have been the best band in the business, since the grateful dead deceased, in my opinion, think about that legacy. that's what the fans want to hear, because it's one of a kind. keep jammin'. peace.

nuke_ticketbastard Wed 10/18/2006 07:42AM
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it just blows my mind the way people talk crap on this site. how could you possibly know what treys , or anyone elses , motivations and thoughts are. as far as being known by his one name - isnt that already the case? , i did not see his last name mentioned once in all the posts!
but the most absurd thing is to talk shit about him and then in the next breathe say , i cant wait til phish gets back together! are you folks really that out of touch that you vant see the contradiction here? what if they never get back together? oh my god how will you survive????

possum4231975 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 07:57AM
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possum4231975

Great article. I love to read about what the boys are doing these days. Thanks for the write-up!

shanky95 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 08:24AM
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Great article. Eventhough I'm not 100% with Trey for the moment, that doesn't mean I'm gonna turn my back on him. I still see his solo shows and give his albums a listen. There are always moments in one of his live shows that brings me back, if only just for a moment. But that's what it's all about right? Just moments we remember forever. If Phish comes back or not is of no importence. The important thing is Trey stays alive and breathing so he can rip up the Languedoc for all of us. Trey after Phish bad? Utica, and all his acoustic Phish, MMWTrey at 10klf, Oysterhead and the SuperJam at Bonnaroo. Open your ears people. Trey is still here. How can we expect someone of his genius to simply play the same kind of music for his whole life? We can't. Kepp doin it Trey, we are all with you. And ambrosiajam: Is that post really serious, and were you drunk when you wrote it?

letshavesomefun Wed 10/18/2006 08:51AM
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so i wonder if kizzy 1 actually read the rolling stone article Trey was just in. because if he did he would realize that Phish is on Treys mind. he misses his boys. and if Phish doesn't come back well then they don't come back. My life is on a different path, if they get back together im not going to drop everything in my life like i used to, to go and check out every show possible. Everything happens for a reason, Phish needed a break, I needed a break and a lot of other people needed a break. But all in all one day Phish will be back.

And the idea behind Trey being a one-name guy is the fact that he doesn't want to always be associated with Phish even though he always will be. For everyone who doesn't know who Phish is, he wants them to know who Trey is before Phish.

Chad M. Schyvincht starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 09:07AM
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It is goog to see some clean writing that explains Trey's musical path away from Phish. As an artist one must always change and evolve. There are parts of Bar 17 I love and other parts that I can defenitly do without but it is aways exciting to see what Trey is going to create next. I find it sad that a lot of old Phish Phans I know despise Trey now. All I can say is you guys are missing out.....BIG TIME.

~Chad M. Schyvincht

letshavesomefun Wed 10/18/2006 09:15AM
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oh and ps..... everyone contradicts themselves. Its a part of life. i bet kizzy1 has done it a couple of times. and by the way i didn't go to see Phish because of Trey, I went to see Phish because of Phish. If it weren't for the whole their would be no Phish.

shonuff starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 09:29AM
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Nice article--much better than the relix article, and for the first time Trey sounds precise at what he is trying to say. I personally never got to see phish, and if it is buried, then it is buried. I like the whole concept behind bar 17, it shows that Trey is not just pushing out and album for the hell of it. I bet the NYE show will be killer

phhil starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 10:23AM
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phhil

I saw trey for the first time since a verry sour experience at coventry, friday in charlottesville. amazing. trey(and every member in the band) is at the verry top of his game musically. the way the jams were built, the places they went, and how tightly they came back together was to the point that it would make any "jamband" on the "jamscene" have wet dreams. trey(in company with phish) wrote the book on all that tension and release stuff that bands have been trying to immitate for over a decade, which i think is the key aspect in defining a jamband.
a phan threw a reba t-shirt up on stage for trey and he showed the crowd his gift and suddenly the whole crowd was chanting reba!reba! his reply was "be verry patient"

Atlien starstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 11:10AM
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Anyone else catch Trey doing his best Goo-Good Dolls impression on Letterman a couple of weeks ago. The dude left Phish so he could play "Boots and Dragonflys"??? That crap was like "hippie crunk", where the chorus is the verse. Sad that the dude wants to be a adult contemporary star.

Teabagger starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 11:24AM
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Teabagger

Great article Kayceman. That was a good read. Trey is making some great music right now. It doesn't sound like phish though. You have to be able to seperate the man from the band. I can't wait to see him tonight in Chi-town.

And in the words Ben "Milky" Chambers:

All you haters, stop spreading your seed,
Choppin’ up the music man you’re killin the scene
It ain’t about who’s best, it’s about good times,
About the rhythm, about the rhymes

Don't be hateful, be grateful
For the grooves on your table

jcheat420 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 12:13PM
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jcheat420

Trey is the man and there is no other way to put it. Eventhough some dont like the new CD he still puts on one of the best live shows around period.

kellerisafeller starstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 12:37PM
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kellerisafeller

great article shows alot...

brycol1 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 12:39PM
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too bad some of you people are so closed minded about listening to new music. I am a huge Phish fan but Shine and Bar 17 have contain some of the best work that Trey has ever put out... Grow up and realize that times they are a changing and you can't go freaking out to "a sick 2001 jam" anymore. I cant stand when all of these people who come on here and criticize Trey for moving on. It is absolutely ridiculous!

rbindaberg starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 02:08PM
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great article. a quick note and invitation to you nay-sayers:

if just some of you nay-sayers would just shut your trap, maybe some of us who are trying to listen, could hear the new music....

you dumbasses.

those of US "with A game" are still busy partying, while you are busy creating a parody of yourself of being an annoying lil' bitch who is busy blabbing about nothing to no one who cares...

...and pretty soon you just might find yourself sitting home alone whinning to no one (or your mom), while we are all out partying with...the likes of TREY!

i hope to see some of you bitches at vegooose...b/c even though you are complete buzz hazzles, those with "A game" are going to come into vegas HOT and RALLY you to REMEMBER what its like to LIVE!

so, bring it on lil bitches - we are gonna party baby!! woohoo!

kewl Wed 10/18/2006 02:27PM
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trey a is just doin his own thing he needs to explore alittle i bet it gets kinda boring playin the same music day after day he needed to mix it up. grab was dank as hell, trey solo not my style but oh well plenty of good music out there like moe. um disco sci. phish will be back its a matter of time. if not it was great while it lasted.

Chapelchilla starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 02:32PM
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Good Interview Jambase. I liked the fact that it gave Trey a chance to talk about his feelings and philosophies about life and music without being all judgemental. Speaking of Judgemental, a lot of posts are from people for whom bashing Trey and crying about the "demise" of Phish is rooted in pure selfishness. Give the man a break, he needed time to get right. Enjoy the new or move on.

breckenridgejam Wed 10/18/2006 02:52PM
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breckenridgejam

I still don't understand what Bar 17 means. Trey needs to get off his high horse. He has changed his solo band around so many times its retarded. Either no one is good enough in Trey's eyes or no one wants to play with him because of his inflated ego! Trey- Please screw your head back on to your body and come down from cloud 9. Stick with GRAB, Phil, or Phish cause your solo music really sucks dingleberries! Peace, see y'all in Vegas

luap Wed 10/18/2006 02:52PM
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rbindaberg, that is the best post so far, go brother, can't wait till Trey kick's the shit out of Vegas--A-game all tyhe way bitches!!!

Dave28 Wed 10/18/2006 02:57PM
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Dear readers (I hope Trey looks at this),
This summer i saw Grab in cleveland. That was an unreal show. It was intense the music was intense the energy was intense, and the crowd was intense. Every one was dancing and having a great time. Trey's new stuff is the skit. How could u like music and not like these cd's. Trey is a mastermind on the strings. I fully support anything this man does. If anyone knew anything about music like music music playing it then u would have a deep liking for this man's work. By the way Trey if phish comes back together would u let my band open for u guys check us out, phish is r role models. We r inspired by them, we can jam real hard http://www.myspace.com/audioeuphoria5

letshavesomefun Wed 10/18/2006 03:04PM
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see dave28. you talk that people who dislike the music know nothing about music. well who says you know anything about music. just cause you play doesn't mean you know everything about music. and by the way all you want out of Phish coming back is for your band to open up for them. See all in all everyone wants something from them. Even you.

As far as im concerned theirs no way to truly understand a band until you see them live. Seeing bands play live, shows a bands capabilities when others are around. thats why its live. Screw sittin in a studio

letshavesomefun Wed 10/18/2006 03:06PM
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beat it with ur "A game". what is that

tzolkin13 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 03:09PM
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Good article.

thanks.

JimmyJamesx5 Wed 10/18/2006 03:42PM
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JimmyJamesx5

posted by letshavesomefun :: 10/17/2006 2:31 PM spotlight was on Phish and theirs nothing greater out their then Phish. The likes of a band that huge, that popular, may never be seen in our lifetime.
What about the dead. Trey is going to to what makes trey happy, and so should everyon else, let people bitch who cares, i think its funny, "trey shits diamonds," well if youlike Phish then he probably does

rbindaberg starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 03:57PM
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luap- thats a big right-on baby! and the hilarious thing is that the "A-game" knows how to be real pros about this and we can help give them lil' bitchess somethin' to hang onto, so they can get "alll grows up!" again.

all the nay-sayers will be like, "waaaaahhh, i dont understand whats going on....can some one please help me figure out what it all means...."Let me know, let me know, I need to know"....waaaaahhh...."

and yes, we WILL be right there, still helpin them out (and not just flyin right by) with a strong, encouraging vibe and helpin phrendly hand to lead the charge and reshow that the more folks who go "in" with their A-Game and openly and lend their ear, mind and time to the GODS, and allow enough space for everyone to listen, the PARTY and the ANSWER will unfold...right there before our eyes!

so, "who's the big winner tonight lil' bitches?"

congrats, YOU are! B/C at VEGOOSE, the A-game is the: "every bird on the wing that leads the others along" of this flock and we are about to help you to remember not to forget "IT" and get you back into the high gear of your soul! hahahahaha!

so,... lets move on and see if we can find you some "lil' babies that just might want to party!

PS. no one really knows anything about anything and its all an illusion....and thats why in vegas, you always double down and remain open for magic to happen!

21mmer Wed 10/18/2006 04:15PM
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21mmer

be cafeful not to let your passion for music denigrate those who make it. i'm not a fan of U2's music, but i don't think you can deny that bono is a great person. and i'll never listen to kenny g, but he doesn't bother me as a person. misplaced and misdirected passion/anger can be a dangerous thing. i'm not the biggest fan of the phish-less trey, but instead of bashing the guy i'm going to kick back and listen to some '97 alpine valley.
-namaste

hurricane23 Wed 10/18/2006 04:20PM
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hurricane23

I could swear last night this article talked about trey freebasing cocaine and how it would shorten your tour was his qoute i think. Plus I posted and now my comment's gone. Or did I just dream this shit or what?

birkenjam starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 04:48PM
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got in the phish game later than i would have liked to, but i respect the direction they are all headed. phans have to remember that they arent in their 20s anymore like most of us are, and change is necessary. was speaking to fishman in NYC the other day and he was saying much of the same. phish was a safe place for all them and now they are able to immerse themselves in new projects that allow them to evolve as all of us will want to when we are reaching middle age.

great article, great insight

gratefullybred Wed 10/18/2006 04:57PM
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gratefullybred

for anyone bashing trey, leave the dude alone. let him live his life and be happy. he has made all of us happy on more than one occasion.

gratefullybred Wed 10/18/2006 04:57PM
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gratefullybred

for anyone bashing trey, leave the dude alone. let him live his life and be happy. he has made all of us happy on more than one occasion.

jneden starstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 05:39PM
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For anyone who is bashing Trey...you are a complete idiot. Go see him live. The Webster Hall shows were mind blowing. His music has reached a new level, and it is always changing. Why live in the past? Embrace the new stuff or throw on Lawn Boy. I would encourage any skeptics to stop wishing for a Phish reunion. It is much cheaper to see Trey solo and the traffic isn't nearly as bad.

ExtraPhatty starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 06:14PM
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"My dream is that one person one day would hear some song that I wrote and have it brighten their day a little bit," he says. "I absolutely live for that, and if that can happen, then it would make me really, really happy. That's pretty much the extent of my wanting to have a hit."

Trey...
This happened to me today while driving to "Let me Lie" underneath the Autumn leaves.

Always follow your heart Kid! see you soon!

gratefullybred starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 07:40PM
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gratefullybred

thats exactly what im saying, idiot. leave the guy alone, let him do his thing, whatever makes him happy. i caught a few of his shows with the duo and phil this summer and it was awesome.

Jake. starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 07:57PM
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trey helps me find myself through his music and lyrics.he is one of the most compasionate musicians ever.he continues to prove this over and over.

alfrescoesquire starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 08:14PM
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Great article-Keep up the good work.

I am a lover of music and my tastes cover many 'genres' but if anyone ever asks me 'what kind of music do you like', my answer: good music.

Trey has made some really good music, actually great music, with Phish and as a solo artist. He is an enlightened individual and has a gift that so many wish they had. I understand the path he has decided to take, now. When I first read that Phish was no more, I cried. Kinda like when you lose something or someone you really LOVE. It was hard for me to say goodbye to something that I was not ready to part with. Thats life kids. Things change. All good things must, and do, come to an end; eventually. Be thankful for the times you had at Phish shows. Remember those moments when Trey and the boys had you in the palm of their hands, shaping your mental into what it is today. I had many spiritual moments at many Phish shows and just reflecting on those now sends a flurry of goosebumps down my spine - that is something no one can ever take away from me. Those moments were strong enough to last me the rest of my life. They changed my perspectives on myself, my ambitions, and the world around me. I have so much gratitude for a band that created and still creates such a stir in my soul. I will always support anything that the members of Phish create because of this amazing effect they had on my life. It doesnt always suit my taste when I listen to the recordings but you can bet your ass that I will be front and center any chance I get to see any of them play live. Many of you hold this aggression towards Trey because you beleive he took something away from you. I love Trey because he gave (and continues to do so through live recordings and current concerts) so much to me personally. Stop and think about the words you write and the feelings you hold toward a man and a band that has done so much for so many heads. It was an amazing journey that we all had with Phish, it will never be the same, remember the grooves and the good times. Be very, very, grateful that Trey is still here on the planet making music. I wish Jerry was still on this planet with his guitar in his hands. It could be a lot worse than it is kids; Trey is still rockin it.

Think-Love-Listen-Reflect.

Dont HATE.

Much Love.

Dr. Al Fresco Esq. II

Chris starstarstarstar Wed 10/18/2006 08:31PM
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Chris

everyone just needs to stop dwelling on the "shoulda, woulda, coulda" crap, leave mr. anastasio alone, and let him evolve the way that he clearly needs to in order to become the musician he aspires to be. it is about the fans, but its much more about what he wants to do for himself. and if people like it, good for him.

i have enjoyed his solo albums, knowing that they aren't comparative to phish in the least, but an evolution of a man who was part of a powerhouse. he needs to do it his way, or no way at all, or else what we'll have is forced mush catered to the fans who won't stop talking shit.

deal with it and move on. it's his life. let him live it.

mtn_girl Wed 10/18/2006 09:59PM
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mtn_girl

Trey rocks, but lets face it: Dragonfly SUCKS.

hurricane23: trey mentions freebasing cocaine in an interview w/ rolling stone

newch starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 12:07AM
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newch

come waste your time with me....damn that makes me smile.
job well done

Alex.Anastas starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 12:27AM
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Alex.Anastas

It is obvious from the numerous amounts of comments Trey,(good and bad, cause let's face it, the good ones only testify to what you do, the bad mean that people still care), that people DO care about you, man. Keep doing whatever it is that your heart tells you.

See you around...

GREAT ARTICLE, KACYEMAN!

bigfro Thu 10/19/2006 05:38AM
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bigfro

I just remember Trey doing like twenty shows with Phish. Then he goes and does like a hundred shows with Dave Matthews including some in Africa. He comes home looking exhausted and announces Phish is done. He is exhausted from them. The problem is he got exhausted touring with Dave Matthews. (Dave Matthews says "when I die" in like every song. It tripped me out so much I left his show.) Great Influence for Trey. Count your blessings.

Listen i love Trey. I love his solo work. I just would love to see Phish every third or fourth tour. Like Jerry & The Dead did in the late seventies. I DON'T BEGRUDGE HIM ANYTHING. PHISH WILL BE BETTER IF AND WHEN THEY COME BACK. HE NEEDED THIS. I must admit though IF TREY HAD ANY THOUGHTS OF KEEPING PHISH TOGETHER HE WOULD GIVE THEM UP READING JAMBASE.

You guys can really act like a bunch of useless people sometimes. Do another line of coke. I remeber how all the coke heads would leave a Phish sjow and say that Phish was off or bunk. (As in I'm becomeing my parents Phish is bunk, I'm over them just like smoking grass while I blow ten lines of an ADULT drug like coke, and ruin the scene. It's funny how the smokers would many times love the same show. PHISH was never studio 54.

soulgrass Thu 10/19/2006 07:47AM
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So its Dave's fault that Phish broke up? Ok, now I understand. It had nothing to do with Trey's drug problem.

SuperDee starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 08:35AM
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SuperDee

i love you trey. i love you kayceman.

Spendyrun starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 08:36AM
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Trey you have brightened more days than you will ever know. Don't sell yourself short. You owe us nothing. Keep being yourself. Don't ever stop being more than a little nuts. You're and artist, not many people get to use that excuse. Love and respect.

ajerk Thu 10/19/2006 09:08AM
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ajerk

'INN TREY WE TRUST...>"{{{><

tour with the www.MagicBurps.com

rodrigjc Thu 10/19/2006 10:18AM
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rodrigjc

Fox Theatre Monday night! Bring on the Trey!

sleewell starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 11:50AM
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sleewell

its hard to really comment on some of these posts, i think i will just say that i have the utmost respect for trey and wish him the best. to say he is a genius is a vast understatement and it is hard to imagine my life without his music. he writes songs that give you goosebumps and this knowlegde of the guitar and shear instincts are amazing. everyone that is pissed off at trey is a complete moron and isnt really a true fan of phish. it couldnt have lasted forever and to pursue your dreams is the very core of what is important in life. keeping a band together just so you and your buddies can do nothing with your lives but follow a band from town to town to take drugs is retarded. let him live his life and go out and live your own, respect his decisions and embrace the memories of all the fantastic shows you got to see. i am seeing phil and trey in 8 days and can not freaking wait to be amazed and delighted to be entertained by such talented individuals.

rodrigjc Thu 10/19/2006 12:24PM
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rodrigjc

I'll ssay just one more thing. I thought that last post was incredibly thoughtful. It seems so silly that we hang out on these message boards and voice our personal opinions on a person that I would venture to guess none of us know personally. The band pulled me out of some sketchy times fifteen years ago and it continues to perfume my adult life in a very significant way. I think that his exploration is his duty to himself and that quite franly is really nobody's business. If you can't dig it, don't listen. I will bring my thirty something ass over to the Fox on monday night, deal with an oversold crowd and everything else jsut to see where he's headed. And if the boys come back out someday, well I guess I'll just have to be there too. It's always felt like home.

cofor20 Thu 10/19/2006 02:42PM
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cofor20

looks like as good 'a place as any to start a rumor. according to a friend of a friend; all the kids in WSP lot are talking about Phish being 'back together'...

bfraim starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 02:51PM
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Great article. It's refreshing to hear Trey discuss Phish and his approach to his solo work with such honesty.

zerox120 starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 03:35PM
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zerox120

I saw Trey last night at the Vic and it was the best solo show I've ever seen him put on (and possibly the best playing I've seen him do). Trey is back in force. I od hope Phish comes back, but not until he wants it and they're all ready.

nikolaivaluev Thu 10/19/2006 04:01PM
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Trey rocks and that is all there is to it.

reba2 starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/19/2006 05:11PM
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Great Article. I'm glad most of us are looking at the big picture here. Thank you for highlighting that in this article. I am personally having the best time going on this journey with Trey. The energy of the music continues to feed my soul.

FormulaOBX Fri 10/20/2006 06:41AM
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VEGA$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$......

btshow starstarstarstar Fri 10/20/2006 07:22AM
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Interesting article! Trey's comments about how internalizing the study of music into true emotion is a classic Trey thought. Charlie Parker said "practice man practice, but when its time to play, forget all that ship and just play"

As a Phish fan who saw his first show in 93', I respect Trey's desire to evolve, but even though its been two years, I'm still hurt, more so at Trey as it was obvious that he was the strongest voice (guitar player interview, 04') was the strongest for the break-up. I know its not about me, but Phish maintained such a close connection with their fans. Anyway, Trey is one of the greatest musicians of his generation, and whatever he does will be awesome.
Peace

matthewhayden starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/20/2006 12:27PM
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Great article. It's great to see how he is evolving and how we don't know what is around the corner. The element of surprise will keep me holding on for as long as I'm able to listen to music. Music is my passion and who other to appease that passion then Trey Anastasio.
And to respond to another's post on here--I agree I haven't grasped the radio version of Dragonfly, BUT I flew into Nashville from CO this Summer for the G.R.A.B. show and the Dragonfly was aaaamazing. Lots of love to you all!

dorkstar starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/20/2006 01:07PM
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some time has passed since the band broke up with the music filtering into various avenues some of us continue to care about or not as much. and what it means to me when trey opens up to explain his current self by way of some poignant questions via the kayceman, eliciting a passioned mix of reader fueled response both supportive and critical, is that whether or not the newer incarnations of phish "do it" for the fan, so many will continue to have a difficult time admitting that "this has all been wonderful, but now we're on our way."

as most people in the heart of my west coast crew get older, they become intrisically linked to their predecessors of the bygone Grateful Dead era with their own continued devotion to music, all the while becoming further tied to their various personal life committments. my feeling is that their personal journeys generate empathy for trey's path of self-preservation, and that the more pop oriented, polished sound of the new albums has little to do with their feelings about trey and the great memories of his music he is sure to continue creating. besides treys lifestyle change, something most west coast fans (and fans in general) are also hip to is a trey warfield run, where things like a legendary santana/trey duel, and improptu mickey and billy drop-ins seem to elevate trey to the level we all covet. and after reading all the positive reader feedback regarding recent performances, i know i'm not alone in pondering a dust off of my slumbering tour skills for a five day commando-style west coast slingshot. and its funny, as just a week or two ago, vegoose wasn't looking all that spectacular. but all of a sudden the idea of a trey and phil headliner sounds worth the price of admission (ok, ok, herring-led panic sounds pretty good too...) i suppose it's testament to the power of a well written, provocative piece. maybe i just need to calm down.

in any case, thanks kayceman.

karma2all starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/20/2006 02:36PM
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I started listening to Phish 12 years ago and back then I heard rumblings that Trey was an egomaniacal bastard. Over the years that rumbling became shouting. I have never gotten it. I don't see it. I've been to a lot of shows, read a lot of coverage, and I just don't see it. What makes people think they "know" him (or any celebrity for that matter) anyway? Think about the layers of complexity of the people in your own lives (and your own layers of complexity for that matter). Do you really think this man, who clearly sits pretty high on the complexity scale, can be easily pigeon holed by fans based on lyrics, on-stage behavior, and quotes in interviews?

The fact is the man has made some beautiful art that has given us all tremendous joy. I respect him incredibly for that, and I choose to accept that I don't know him, nor will I ever. I also choose to assume that a person capable of producing such beauty is beautiful. I also choose to assume that underneath all our complexities, we are all beautiful.

So, relax and enjoy.

Matthew Jaworski starstarstarstarstar Sat 10/21/2006 07:14AM
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Matthew Jaworski

Great article, Kayceman. One of your best pieces.

More power to Mr. Anastasio. After almost 15 years-worth of memories, inspiration, and mind-blowing music, he's built up more than enough credit with me to do whatever the eff he wants. I wish there was a way that I could repay him for all of the joy that he has given me. Most recently, this summer's GRAB/Phil gig at PNC was a hot show, brah.

And, yes, he will always have red hair.

FrankSucksAtLife starstarstar Sat 10/21/2006 08:55AM
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Trey Anastasio turned into a huge, GAP wearing, metrosexual pussy. That is the bottom line. Go white people!

id rather be phishing starstarstarstarstar Sat 10/21/2006 08:56AM
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id rather be phishing

trey is still a god..

torn&treyed starstarstarstarstar Sat 10/21/2006 09:01AM
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Kayceman is the best journalist at jambase hands down. Although I know he loves phish and has seen them aplenty in his past from his other articles, he didn't interject any of his own experiences or mention how cool it was to interview trey he kep it prof. Sweet well written

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Sat 10/21/2006 12:28PM
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EVILFUNK

killer article - right on time!

1. if not for trey - we would not be at this website - reading , typing learning where the next show was. there would not be jambands at all really if it werent for this mans work. no phish net...so none of these sites would have followed. the world as we know it would be way different and we never would have known what we are missing. where would we be?

2. jerry kept on for his fans ...look at what happened to him in the end! if trey is giong to stand on stage he is going to have to do it his way. stop expecting him to sit and entertain YOUR creative notions! if you dont like it - start your own band and you wont be sucth whining little victoms of his music (you bicthes)

3. i love phish heads! we are a dark demented breed and we dont mind speeking our minds even when we look like a bunch of whining brats! didnt mike say somthing years and years ago about us spending too mucth time on line tripping out on phish.

trey WOULD be a pop star IF he were catering to your ears folks! dont you get it? he caters to himself creatively and thats why he is not on MTV right now!

Zarathrusta Sat 10/21/2006 03:06PM
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Zarathrusta

Than You EVILFUNK. I saw SCI last night and it helped me realize one of the best things about living in/going to shows in - South Florida. I guess it's because were all the way down here; the crowds consist less of travelers and "hard-core" fans, instead most people are just music lovers who don't focus or worship one particular band. I realized this last night because everyone I met/talked to - agreed that it's because of Jerry and Trey that things like the concert we were at last night, improvisational music mixed with many genres, Bonnarroo, Jam Bands sand this web-site exsist. No one tried to over-analyze Trey or say that SCI is better than Phish

luap Sat 10/21/2006 03:20PM
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EVILFUNK, you are so right, these kid's today just don't get it, let em bash Trey, more room for us.

cptpowder starstarstarstarstar Sat 10/21/2006 08:04PM
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cptpowder

Thanks for the great article.
Inspired so many people to comment. Pretty interesting.
As for me the rollercoaster ride has been amazing and in the end I give thanks everyday.
Anyway one interesting point that Trey brought up is service to people. That is huge. Sounds as if Trey has been reading the teachings of Neem Karoli Baba and Hanuman.
I could be totally wrong but maybe not.

Hotchkiss starstarstarstarstar Sun 10/22/2006 09:09AM
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Hotchkiss


great article kayceman!

so many little minded comments on here, if your gonna talk shit at least back it up. some of you just spout things like little children. chances are the shit talkers are all under 21.

i don't like trey, his ego does show in his music. i love phish, i loved his first solo album, one man's trash i think it was called.

but for me, or anyone else, to comment on his motives for writing songs is pointless. unless you tom marshall you don't know what your talking about.

if he want's to write three minuet, sappy, no substance, pop lyrics, more power to him. i know that after a binge on free jazz i need a little beach boys in my ears.

calicheezer starstarstarstarstar Sun 10/22/2006 03:21PM
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calicheezer

Trey's bad . I miss phish but the kids there are tweaker punk ass bitches. they will be back, Trey will still be rockin, always weird and ingeniously like a modern Beethoven! peace

ChaiTea starstarstarstar Mon 10/23/2006 05:44AM
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As I'm reading down the comments (which are all respectable, don't get me wrong), I'm seeing so much anger towards fellow music lovers opinions. No matter how strongly we feel for or against the particular music, arguing and name calling is missing the point of the music completely. Damn, state your thoughts and stand proud in your statement without ragging other people's sentiments on the subject.

Do your thang, Trey-man. That's all anyone should be doing.

FormulaOBX Mon 10/23/2006 06:19AM
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Vega$ baby........

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‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›      {¬¿¬}

Jerry Garcia was Yoda, Trey is a Jedi in training.
Dont get mad, I love most all jam music, it all has its high points and low at different times.. I was surprised at the fall 2004 Trey show in atlanta at the FOX, he really impressed me, far beyond what I was expecting. After all my dead shows, phish shows, panic shows, SCI shows, allman brothers shows, its soo much FUN to continued to be impressed by some of the greatest bands in Jam History..

borak22 starstarstar Mon 10/23/2006 10:26AM
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While this article is interseting, I don't understand why there isn't a more thorough look at the content of trey's new albums and even the last phish album Undermind.
I'm not going to bash trey or phish because they have created some of the zanniest compositions as well as out there musical improvisations that have made me smile from ear to ear. Yet, it seems like the later material was more or less produced to try and get away from what phish was, rather than build upon that.
Undermind in striclty musical terms was extremely simple compositionlly. Most oif the songs relied on simple diatonic chord changes that were mostly 1-4-5's or other simple chord patterns. On top of that, the album seems pretty depressing and lacks the sort of raw emotions that phish usually produced. Trey also seemed to rely more on his effects and "style" rather than on his chops.
In fact I saw 8 post hiatus phish shows and aside from the first one (2/28/03), Phish seemed more content in being tray's backup band rather than in creating a shared improvisational experience. What i mean by this is that the "jams" in phish songs for the most part were trey taking endless solos that were either Dorian scale or Mixolydian scale based that a lot of times did not travel to thos places that phish used to go, instead sort of just chilling on those kind of minor 6th chord vamps that is so much of trey's style.
on top of that, page would rarely solo except on songs like suzie greenberg and Y.E.M. and most of the jams never centerd around him nor allowed him to have a great input. This also had to do with the fact that Paul Languedoc had trey much louder through the P.A. and Page a lot softer.

While i do empathize with trey trying to search for something new with his musical journey, i don;t think it is right of him to compare his musical changes to Miles Davis. Miles Davis electric band really opened the door, if not created fusion and a new approach to free jazz that pushed the boundries. The whole pint is that he didn;t revert back to playing stuff that was easy for him, or easy listening but rather went for the jugular and put out material that much of the public first thought was just noise.
As for trey saying his new music is more emotional than what phish used to produce is not very insightful. listen to the anteloupe from live vol. 2 or stash from "a live one" and feel the inner rage, and angst that is exhibited through the shared imrov, or listen to tweezer from "a live one" and hear how phsih traveled to unexplored musical territories and listened to each others playing.

OysterDead starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/23/2006 11:32AM
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OysterDead

"My dream is that one person one day would hear some song that I wrote and have it brighten their day a little bit,"

And you have achieved that greatness Mr. Anastasio...

don't forget> When all else has been done and said along comes Mr. Osyterhead!

greenreba86 starstarstarstar Mon 10/23/2006 02:15PM
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Ok, in reference to the article, it was really good. Well written, and Trey's personality really shines through ( no pun intended). In refrence to Bar 17 and where Trey is heading with his music I think it is phenomenal. I think that we all just need to let go of Phish and embrace Trey for everything that he is and everything he is doing. I went to see him in Ann Arbor, MI on Saturday the 21st and it was truly an amazing show. It blew my expectations out of the water and he really ripped it up - one of my favorite shows this year. You can really tell that he is thoroughly enjoying himself and he looks happy. It is such a buzz to see, his energy really drives into the fans. So in short, rock on Trey and deal with the criticism. Oh, and your music touches me, and many others, in an amazing way every day I listen to it.

blower starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/23/2006 02:15PM
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Great Article. It is good to hear Trey's reflection on himself, the music, and some of his approaches to song writing without interjecting other bands and/or authors opinion into the equation. Kayceman you are the best!

Borak22-Thanks for injecting some real musical analysis into the equation. That seems to be forgotten when people say things like" if not for trey -there would not be jambands at all...the world as we know it would be way different... where would we be?"

Talk about overdramatic. Phish was a great band, but they don't rank high in my book as far as having a meaningful influence on modern musical culture, affecting other genres of music,providing lyrical genius(granted not their intent), or pioneering their own musical genre.

They did an awesome job at merging musical styles, technical chops, and putting out some kick ass tunes. Musical phrasing that pushed the envelope. Only the most devoted fan would make the claim that Phish played extraordinarily beautiful music or wrote profound lyrics.

Obviously Trey's primary focus has changed in music and he is know trying to find himself. His focus seems to be on musically communicating with humanity and coming to terms with his own successes. There seems to be a disconnect between his vision of musical success and his fans. He still feels somehow that he has not lived up to his influnces:Miles Davis, Neil Young and Dylan. I would agree with him that he is not yet there. His fans however, think he is God, and don't want change.

Hopefully his path to enlightment will lead to further greatness. Hopefully some day, he will have the musical impact of a Miles Davis, or the cultural and lyrical impacts of Dylan,Young, or U2 (and I really dislike U2). I think that path begins with his guitar skills not his emotion, ego, lyrics, vocal capability... He is the technical guru not the inspiring lyricist or a revolutionary philosopher. He will probably never write lyrics that stand the test of times like Bob Dylan. If Trey can just accept that fact and realize that the world needs awesome lead guitar players. There will be no limits to his personal success.













quhp starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/23/2006 07:17PM
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i'm very certain phish's and along with trey's idiom will soon be present as a major influence in music. give the young musicians time. ---otherwise, who will continue this ever growing scene?

iamkickinit Mon 10/23/2006 10:16PM
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iamkickinit

i agree Reba! haha, rock on trey, everything in ann arbor was fantastic from the show to the positive energy... the thing i love about trey is his music is constantly evolving into something new, i just feel that if the sound was the same year in year out, it would just get boring. Trey keeps you on your feet and always keeps you guessing. rock on trey, keep the good vibes and great music coming.

See everyone in Vegas!

devonspeas starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/24/2006 10:38AM
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I'm always interested in reading about interesting music personalities. This is one of the first articles I've read in a long time in which the writing excellence matches the interview content. Great job, Kayceman! Someday, Rolling Stone will go out of publication...I hope.

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/24/2006 10:40AM
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EVILFUNK

some solid analysis of treys skills;

"I think that path begins with his guitar skills not his emotion, ego, lyrics, vocal capability... He is the technical guru not the inspiring lyricist or a revolutionary philosopher."

(i would have to add mention of his strong compositional skills)

VERRY TRUE, BLOWER! LETS TAKE AWAY HIS VOCAL MIC NEXT TIME THEY DO GRAB! MAKE HIM PLAY ALL NIGHT - NO FUCKING BEATLES COVERS! (argue with that, america!)

i dont think trey is the ultimate genious and anything but a god! HE WORKED HIS ASS OFF FOR EVERY DROP OF SKILL HE HAS! WHAT AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOUR AVEREDGE SCHMUCK CAN DO IF HE WORKS HARD AND HAS VISION! (grab an instrument, averedge schmucks far and wide - you can do it too) Phish, as individuals are all awesome musicians but the truth about thier music (if you ask me) is that it takes all four of them to create GENIOUS + the conection they had with us, the audience and 5th member.

HOWEVER, NONE OF THIS WAS HERE BEFORE PHISH! I WAS! THIS BANDS IMPACT MUSICALLY AND CULTURALLY IS NOTHING TO SHAKE A STICK AT! imagine waking up one day and finding that this is all a dream and the gratefull dead and allman brothers are still the only improvisational rock bands around but they cant really make a living because all of thier fans died off over the years and nobody came along and inspired another generation to put music FIRST in thier lives. who knows, mabey Panic would have made it bigger wiothout phish around...than Mike Houser would have been our new icon and set the standard for improvisational rock guitaur....it would have been about soul now - not skills! still good music, i guess...

Trey is just a dude who deserves alot of credit for his hard work paying off and some honest analysis of his skills! if people want to bash him for doing what he wants instead of pushing the same flavors he was ten years ago fine....lets kill him as an artist and make him our song and dance bicth.....ok, trey...do YEM again or YOU ARE FIRED!

illustrateddreams starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/24/2006 03:09PM
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Like I can be really, really, really sad or really, really happy and express that to someone without fear of reprisal.

As an artist, I dig, always when an article can dig up an honest statement like this. Thanks Kayce, the article is another well scripted piece.

monodub starstarstarstar Tue 10/24/2006 05:45PM
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re: vocals/lyrics being the most direct path to expressing emotion, emotion being more important as one grows older, etc. there is enough music out there where lyricists simply state what happened yesterday, how they feel today, etc. one appealing thing about phish in the beginning was that the lyrics could be non-fiction, nonsensical, and/or coded. that added to the fun, mystery and emphasized the MUSIC. a few of you have commented that phish will never be remembered for being great lyricists or making great music. it's what you make of it. what at first was a great change of pace, became my favorite because it was different. not to mention the people, the relationship b/w the band and the people. take divided sky for instance. lyrical masterpiece, right? :) but the SONG is freakin' beautiful to me. delicate, complex and rewarding. ok, so enough about phish. this is trey. sure i was a bit stunned at first at the announcement. any rational person would have to except this as a healthy move. trey is a great musician as are all of the guys. i think there is something romantic about a band that stays together forever, but 20 years is nothing to shake a stick at. overall, trey SEEMS like a honest and forthcoming fella. he isn't your puppet. if you like his stuff fine. if not, different strokes, right? so what if this is a rambling comment....i guess the biggest difference is that the festive atmosphere of phish isn't there at a trey show. but trey is still a blast to see perform.

fostersj86 starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/24/2006 08:18PM
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I'm glad to see that trey is finally getting some support. Anytime I've seen this man on stage I have been amazed by his skills. Long Live Trey!!!

shanky95 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/25/2006 05:34AM
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1.) Phish isn't The Band, they will be back.
2.) Coventry wasn't even as good as the toilet paper in the shitters at The Last Waltz. Phish will be back. Chill.
3.) EVILFUNK: you told america to argue, so... Uncle Albert is a Paul McCartney solo song, not a Beatles song, but I know what you mean.
4.) stop comparing Jerry to Trey, ever seen Bittersweet Motel?, they're not the same thing.
5.) Trey is still a god.
6.) Phish Food ice cream is sooo tasty.

Sliv starstarstarstar Wed 10/25/2006 08:16AM
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PhAAT - Phans for An Acoustic Trey

My new organization. Last night @ the Fox Theater I had the thought that with all of his 35 minutes per song wanking (which I love but can get to be a bit much, imo), what he really needs to do is strip the sound down, put an acoustic band together and tour the country playing ONLY acoustic.

I'd be way into that and I think he'd probably get off on it as well (not to mention vastly improve his acoustic guitar skills...not that they're bad to begin with, but you know what I mean).

In fact, let's go for the gold...HOW ABOUT A BAD HAT REUNION? Starkweather on bass, Fish on drums, Masefield on mandolin and Trey on acoutic guitar. Acoustic jazz & bluegrass with a jam slant. Beautiful.

Pass the word...we can make this happen (LOL).

Peace,
Sliv

shanky95 starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/25/2006 10:51AM
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The setlists from the new tour look amazing. Full of fun and energy. CORNELL!!!!!

tensgrl starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/25/2006 03:32PM
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saw trey for two nights at fox....amazing. exciting....especially first night. am now a reformed naysayer.... he's kicking ass right now.

jcharlen starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/25/2006 11:27PM
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filo, blower, and anyone else who questions Trey's impact on music:

there we're plenty of people saying the same shit about Miles 40 years ago. "That Miles Davis is no genius. He just rambles on and doesn't know a thing about melody. Now, Benny Goodman...THERE'S a genius!"

You sound like my 90 year-old grandpa, who thought the electric guitar was responsible for completely ruining music.

jcharlen starstarstarstarstar Wed 10/25/2006 11:51PM
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ps: borak22, i bet you REALLY enjoyed sharing your knowledge of heady words like mixolydian. it cracked me up to hear you pontificating about how influencial Trey's music is (or isn't, in this case) compared to Miles'. If you knew a thing about Miles, you'd know that during the electric years, he basically decided that complex chord changes were for the weak, and that true improvisation could only take place in the context of "simple chord patterns." Better yet, if you are such an expert on improvisation, you might consider that a ONE chord jam actually has the MOST possibilities harmonically.

Most importantly, have you ever considered that perhaps Trey's ultimate goal has little to do with pleasing music dorks who get off on flat 5 sharp 11 chords? Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the kind of music Trey is trying to make now IS NOT easier for him? That he is not reverting, but rather, evolving?

You mention Antelope...didn't he write that in high school? I think the point is that his songwriting is coming from a more emotion-driven place, whereas songs like Antelope were more intellectual. Sure, the PLAYING on Antelope is plenty emotional. Phish was a very emotional band. They were so open, and so willing to take us where we wanted to go. Maybe we all got a little spoiled.

Just remember: Trey was a HUGE driving force behind everything that was Phish. That's not to discredit the other guys, but I think they would all tell you that Trey bore more than his share of the burden, and provided more than his share of the effort. Most people thought Phish sucked at first. There were even times when the other guys in the band doubted their ability to achieve their collective goals. Trey was the man with the undying vision, the confidence, and the charisma to keep things rolling. He's demonstrating that same committment now. The committment to what he believes in. I'm SO glad he doesn't listen to toolbags like you.

IamHagel starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/26/2006 08:19AM
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Great read. I must say that listening to Guyute will always put me in a good mood and put a smile on my face, not matter my emotions beforehand.

borak22 Thu 10/26/2006 10:04AM
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to jcharlen - first off, u should chill out with trying to make fun of everyone u disagree with because if u were not behind a computer i have a feeling u might keep your mouth closed a bit more, otherwise u must get your ass kicked quite often.
second i dont think u have a real understanding of miles davis becuase he never said anything that "complex chord changes are for the weak." in fact him and almost any other jazz cat who play free jazz would tell you that u MUST learn to play over chnages, whether complex or simple, before u can truelly play free jazz.

miles davis electric band was also not based on "one chord jams" that phish based a lot of their music on, instead the bass would hang around a certain tone and miles, herbie/chick/keith jarret, jon mcglaughlin would venture from there, not constrained by a certain key or chord(s), but would rely more on RYTHMIC INTGERPLAY.

if u had listened to a word i had said, u would have understood that phish used to be able to take a jam like the one from anteloupe which by many measure is a jam in e minor and create a sort of shared improvisational experience that was based on rhtymic inputs from all four members, not just trey playing over that scale or even hitting a "flat 5 or sharp 11" that supposedly "pleases music dorks."

i agree with u that some of the best improv comes out of simple chord structures but there is a HUGE difference between what trey's new album and the jams from later phish are and what someone like John Scofield can do with a one chord jam. take a listen to A Go Go, or Uberjam, or Up all Night, and almost all of the solo sections are composed of a couple of chords.

if u do enjoy awesome guitar solos that are not based on complex chords, u should check out guys like Wayne Krantz, Oz Noy, ernest ranglin, and marc ribot. waynekrantz.com and if u are from nyc area check him out at the 55bar on christopher street. there is no way in hell that trey could ever live up to the chops of that guy.

joshp1731 Fri 10/27/2006 01:32AM
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jesus christ. i never really post on here, but when did the jambase crowd get to be such bitches? this isnt the movie mean girls. you know you all love trey, so stop pretending you dont. this is getting ridiculous. great article...very clean and shows a new side of red. he does seem rejuvenated and inspired. i for one am very excited for his upcoming tour and the future beyond that, whether it is with phish or not.

FormulaOBX Fri 10/27/2006 08:20AM
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He's got skills and definately paying the bills...

jcharlen starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/27/2006 08:57AM
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"the bass would hang around a certain tone"

um...kinda sounds a lot like a ONE CHORD jam. that was my point exactly: that when the improvisation is based on one tonal center, the players have an almost infinite range of harmonic options.

also, i think the point is that Trey's new work is representative of his effort to focus on the songwriting aspect, something that a pure jazz player wouldn't know much about... writing songs with lyrics. That's precisely what seperates jam rock from jazz. Guys like Trey aren't trying to be jazz greats. It's a different genre, with different ideals and sensibilities. Improv Rock is its own beast. Trey's improvising shouldn't be compared to Sco any more than his song writing should be measured up to Dylan. Now, if you compare Trey to other people who are trying to do the jam rock thing, combining a high level of musicianship with songs that really speak to thhe audience, it's pretty clear that Trey is at the top of the heap, or at least in rare company.

on a side note, borak22, your last post did not introduce me to any new artists. I can handle Ribot in small doses. He's unoffensive and listenable, but in my opinion fairly impotent. Besides him, you basically listed some of my least favorite players in the world. Wayne Krantz is a huge tool in my opinion.

Sco is a monster, and Bill Frisell can be the father of my children if he wants.

caleb10 starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/27/2006 10:08AM
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I never got to see Phish.Treys shows are the shit!Great jams and great songs.

nathanjrod starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/27/2006 10:58AM
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nathanjrod

Kayce...great job.

Trey - if you are reading any of these comments, I'm surprised. But good job on your stuff outside of Phish - there are some songs I really have enjoyed.

On the other hand, I hate to be "that guy," but for my ears there will never be anything close to what Phish was. You guys were the soundtrack to my life for many years, and I still get goosebumps when I pull out a set from 93-2000.

There's too much bullshit in the world right now - having The Phish From Vermont back would at least make a few of us think again -- if just for a night -- that anything is possible. Or at the very least, we'd be able to forget our troubles for a few moments.

Thanks for playing the guitar the way I wish I could.

blower starstarstarstar Fri 10/27/2006 05:20PM
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Evil funk-I like hearing Trey sing I just don't think it is his strongest talent.

"HOWEVER, NONE OF THIS WAS HERE BEFORE PHISH! I WAS! THIS BANDS IMPACT MUSICALLY AND CULTURALLY IS NOTHING TO SHAKE A STICK AT!" Sorry, but this is B.S. I remember tape trading long before Phish. I really think the internet had much more to do with jamband websites existing, than Phish. Sorry.

jcharlen-If you don't think Trey has aspired to play jazz, you have no idea about Trey's background. Phish's earliest material was Jazz. Dude you are clueless even about Phish! Dicks like you are why I would not go anywhere near a Trey show!

MIKESWIFT starstarstar Sat 10/28/2006 07:55AM
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As a newbie i cry like a little girl everytime a hear some good phish old or new.That aside there will be a summer tour 07. I will be there with all my friends getting down all over again. Like it never stopped just another haitus,or am i still in denial. Anyways i havent seen a good Trey show i am waiting though sitting here every open minded. I hope what i am hearing on here isnt a bunch of bs and trey is steping it up.i havent even picked up last phish album, it hasnt crossed my mind to even look at the cover of shine although i have thought about bar 17 but goodbye head and all that other stuff boo. I thought those grab shows kind of sucked forcing some of my frineds to call it the grab my balls tour. Dragon fly and mud city are the same songs shine is well leave it at that. Thats in the past anyway i hope trey kicks ass at the warfield.

kewl Sat 10/28/2006 12:41PM
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(((((Undermind))))))

kewl Sat 10/28/2006 02:57PM
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all you haters are fags your all just jealous of his skills at least he is doin great things with his life and hes exploring different sounds and styles of music what if he was like you just sitting on the comp talkin shit about musicians that he wished he could be

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Sat 10/28/2006 03:39PM
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EVILFUNK

whatever, blower...i was trading the same old GD/JGB/Allmans....lets see were there any others...oh some Zappa...in the late 80s. than there was the HORDE so we had abut 4 more bands in '92 to check out....none making waves as big as Phish did eventually...phish got alot of people out on the road...the first music website i heard of was phish.net - in spring 91..who were you logging on to in 91?

every thing before that was the same...music was either 'dead related' or it was not. what a lame world it would be if we never grew past the 'dead thing' and everyones job was to entertain 'the deadheads' - yes the people singing along to UJB so loud i cant hear the soundsystem! yes, the people who keep acts like the Jerry Garcia Band Band (no garcia, how stale!) or DSO on the road... same old stale shit untill Phish kicked the door in and created the concept of the ORIGIONAL touring jam act. remember when trey turned down gigs with Phil? he was doing somthing - he was saying 'i gotta do my thing - not the dead thing' - he was setting standards. there was a huge paradigm shift around what he and phish did...huge! now we have hundreds of bands to go hear doing this kind of music. ask a cynic and they will tell you these bands are doing 'the Phish thing' now...thanks trey!

kewl Sun 10/29/2006 07:22AM
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tru that EVILFUNK

rbindaberg starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/30/2006 12:14PM
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TREY and PHIL at vegoose was simply awesome. There's nothing more to say about. Everyone in the band brought their A game - it was simply stellar and we are all lucky for it! Thank you.




sleewell starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/31/2006 12:08PM
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sleewell

The late night show at vegoose was better than any words i could use to describe it. the vibe was awesome, i danced with some really cool kids and had huge hugs for everyone around me at the end of the show, it was something special for everyone in attendance. trey looked like was doing great, none of the jaw clenching or faded looks he had in the past. i am so happy for him, to see that he is doing well and to see him put on a truly flawless performance. phil is just phil and all you can say is that he is the man. medeski added a whole nother level to the mix that is hard to quantify, but it was beyond dope. overall i have never danced so much and had such strong feelings that this was a truly special show. i was dancing next to ryan stasik from umphreys mcgee, he was digging the music as much as anyone in the whole venue. I loved that show and it will honestly stay in my memory for the rest of my life. thank you trey and everyone else that was there for making the best show ever.

FormulaOBX Tue 10/31/2006 01:29PM
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Oh...um....my bad....lets try it again.....

rbindaberg starstarstarstarstar Tue 10/31/2006 01:29PM
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sleewell - absolutely and thats the spirit. the ENTIRE band was amazing it was truly an honor to be there - the show was a gift! when we caught a glimpse of mike g in the crowd too, someone in our crewe started trying to call his boss to quit his day job so he could go out on tour again LOLOLOL.... and to find out monday about phil being sick on monday made it even more so special. the interweaving of new and old songs; the consistent "all-in" vibe; the scene was epic and was "full-on back in day and a new beginning all in the same breathe" - fillmoreesk-hamptonesk-worchesteresk-nector-of-the-gods type of stuff -a gift to remind all we are still in it for the right reasons!

bigchris starstarstar Wed 11/1/2006 03:33PM
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great post Blower.

I'm not a huge phish fan like some here, but to compare them to musicians and bands that transformed music: Miles, Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Dead, etc. is really silly. They are what they are, not near those classics. trey deserves credit for his hard work leading to success, but I just don't see a transendent "genius" is his music.
I caught his last solo tour here in SF. It seems he's trying to become and easy-listenin' Chris Isaak or Michael McDonald. I'm sure I'll hear one of his solo tunes in a elevator or supermarket any day now.

shonuff starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/1/2006 04:26PM
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Is it me, or does Trey look like some kind of street tuff in the last two pictures of him walking outside? hahaha. Just had to comment. On a serious note I heard the Chicago shows kicked ass.

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/2/2006 04:44PM
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EVILFUNK

hey blower...listen to phish tape from before 89 or so, when they were doing alot of covers...you will hear that they were doing more classic rock and 'dead stuff' and that as they progress towards the end of the decade they begin to do more jazz...they did not start by doing jazz...they threw a standard in once in a while...my fav was Donna Lee, by the way.

anyone who thinks phish is a smaller deal than Zepplin should come and have this conversation with me in 20 years.

guitardave starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/3/2006 11:41AM
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Shonuff, you are right. Trey looks like an art student in the first outdoor shot. In the second one he's kinda like: "Oh yeah?, Now I got long hair and a Members Only jacket, do you wanna fuck with me, bitch!"

thatsa104 starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/3/2006 01:00PM
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thatsa104

I'm soo glad to see Trey is doing well. I can't imagine the responsibility he and the guys carried all that time on the road. His music really relfects a feeling a peace with his life right now and I think that's worth celebrating. Great article great photos!! Trey looks super hot in that last one too. Totally badass!

pronice starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/3/2006 01:41PM
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Trey IS a tuff mofo. We don't call him Trey Norristasio for nuthin'. He can roundhouse the shit out of any band alive.
Keep on rippin' it up big red! See you in Boston.

EVILFUNK Sun 11/5/2006 12:57PM
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EVILFUNK

i meant to say a phish tape from 85 or so - not 89.

thatsa104 starstarstarstarstar Sun 11/5/2006 03:57PM
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thatsa104

Thanks again for this article. It motivated me to catch the Trey show yesterday at Cornell U and it rocked!! It was so great to see him having a good time. I have to say those college kids have no idea how lucky they were. He did an acoustic Wilson and I nearly threw my neck out. I was sad to see the dance floor poorly represented. But thanks to a few faithful headies we got down. Keep it up Trey! You can count on the NE to get your back. We out!

trini. starstarstarstarstar Sun 11/5/2006 05:52PM
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trini.

Late night Trey VEGOOSE. F-IN' ROCKIN'. Best Trey to date (for me anyway). Keep going Trey. Good shit.

landoflizards Mon 11/6/2006 08:03AM
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landoflizards

Trey is like the Brett Favre of the Jam scene.

landoflizards Mon 11/6/2006 08:05AM
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landoflizards

by that I mean that after the late 90s it was pretty much all downhill...and I don't mean downhill as in sucked - I mean it will never be the same as it was in the mid 90s.

Thurman Merman starstarstarstar Mon 11/6/2006 01:33PM
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Thurman Merman

I am praying this guy returns to form and releases a real tight album.

ktheffernan starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/7/2006 11:56AM
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All is true and I understand what he is doing; he got bored of Phish. I just hope that as his daughters get older, they keep reminding him how timeless and cool they were.

the420cloud Tue 11/7/2006 12:56PM
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land of lizzards - we made the scene! we can do it again...smash and burn your cubicle...go on tour!

calicheezer starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/7/2006 08:58PM
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calicheezer

Trey - Tell ya what Were glad that People arent bumping Phish going down the street. We dont want to see them at the show. Every time I hit a Phish song at random on my playlist, it brings me a smile. It was good to get a break from the Tweeker Fan Kids. Thanks for taking the time off. Hopefully those tweakers have grown up a little, and you can tour again with the band.

Take your time !

gangstaPranksta starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/8/2006 11:26AM
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HEY RBINDABERG YOUR ABOUT AS BIG A FAG AS TREY IS THESE DAYS I BET YOU PARTY ON ZIMA AND WHINE COOLERS YOU AND YOUR A-GAME BIG PIMP!

pheelalrights starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/10/2006 08:47AM
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pheelalrights

I haven't seen trey since 12/05 in san diego. Anyone who has saw the smile on his face and felt the elation in his cords. Don't deprive anyone of their bliss. BTW, gd/phish literally created a new genre of music and more generally entertainment. They are unquestionably bigger than zep, floyd, stones, etc. Just consider the multi modal media manifestations of this 'scene.'

namaste

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bunch of whiners.. shut the hell up... if u dont wanna see Trey then dont!!! peace ya'll

bigchris Fri 11/10/2006 12:14PM
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"They are unquestionably bigger than zep, floyd, stones, etc. Just consider the multi modal media manifestations of this 'scene.'"
This a joke, right? Led Zeppelin is the greatest rock band EVER. They've been copied and imatated more than any other band. The scene you're talking about is a mere shadow of what it was in the 80s/90s. While the Stones still draw 50K+ to every one of their shows(like the one on Monday in Oaktown). trey will never be as big or important as Gilmour, Jagger and Plant(or Gracia for that matter). Put down the hippie crack, mang. Time to ROCK!

DJ Saturday Baxter Fri 11/10/2006 12:31PM
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DJ Saturday Baxter

hey now!...i like ZIMA...its a malt beverage that taste different. call me gay or a fag...but when i'm rolling deep and gettin loose with my bitches they dont think i'm gay. i guess your just a lame ass hippy.

pheelalrights starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/10/2006 02:32PM
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pheelalrights

To begin with, hippie crack is nitrous, and I only do that when I'm at the dentist. The point is the allmans/dead/phish are the pioneers of a genre. Zep/Stones are unquestionably tied as the two top rock bands of all time. The recent explosion of otherwise unknown artists who create a dynamic experience on a nightly basis finds its generation with the three aforementioned bands, and perhaps cream. Page and Richards, as far as I know, haven't ever filled any arena or caused so much dialogue about music as trey is just on this site.
Oh and if were quoting, 'rock on,' did you have your bud light in one hand, the other making that annoying gesture that has know invaded this community with your three outermost digits extended all while banging your head?
peace

baggandy starstarstarstar Fri 11/10/2006 02:46PM
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baggandy

I was sad with the new changes, but happy trey is doing what he wants. I always thought phish was cool because of their attention to detail in musicallity. I feel like the trey direction is the same pentatonic hero licks over and over. I miss the detailed writing. An intense study of part writing and range studies for orchestral instruments would help for this new direction. A study on classical forms of music would help create a more interesting approach to the song forms. But what do I know, I'm not selling out arenas all over the world. Damn, that would kick ass...

-ANDY
:)
Good luck Trey, keep practicing and writing.

Durkin starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/10/2006 05:03PM
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Durkin

i just don't understand why people are so hostle. It's music and for your entertainment. if you are not diggin it then don't listen or go to the show. I loved Phish, then I though Trey's band that had like 15 people or something playing was fun...different but fun. I now saw Trey at vegoose a few times and I must say that musicly I though it was better than times i've seen in the past but all in all, it was still just music I could shake my ass to...and shake it I did.

OH...and beside from my musical opinion about phish or trey, the article was well written...good job.

phleming Fri 11/10/2006 05:13PM
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I didn't get to make it to any of the Late Nights with Trey at Vegoose, but I caught the Phil and Trey act during the day- for some reason I can never abandon the past nostalgia of Phish, although Trey has been collaborating with some amazing musicians (Medeski on keys is epic), solo he will never reach the climax that he did with Phish. I like to see versatility, especially in lead guitar, but I think too much versatility leads one to abandon their signature style. Although I do think there are some things to be learned by exploring, it's hard to look at a man I once viewed as a god as a man again. Good article.

jackiesoup Fri 11/10/2006 09:45PM
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Even if you don't like all of Trey's work, admit that either 1)his best songwriting or 2) his best improvising or 3)his role in one of music's most interesting bands ..will influence your musical flavour for a lifetime. Those who once appreciated that music and now criticize his work just seem bitter and ignorant. You haters sound like that 'Disco died and Rock survived' era. All of the music you enjoy should be considered a blessing. What you don't enjoy, may be a blessing for someone else.

EVILFUNK Sat 11/11/2006 01:47PM
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EVILFUNK

Durkin - saying music is for entertainment is like saying air is for air fresheners! excuse our passion...we take this seriously around here!

mastjr starstarstarstar Sun 11/12/2006 05:23PM
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Music is art. It can't be compared to itself. What I mean is, you can't compare two different artists and say that one is better than another. It is all expression, and how do you compare expressions? Art should be enjoyed for being just that...art. Appreciate expression and the ability to do it with apparent ease.

jcharlen Mon 11/13/2006 09:17AM
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Andy, I think there are a lot of people who feel the way you do. But I think you're missing something... Trey has ALREADY done the complex composed stuff. It's out there, on hundreds of recordings, for you to enjoy. Artists who don't evolve become irrelevant. To you, Trey's recent efforts might sound "easier" or less complex than his past work, but I assure you that's not the case. While his new stuff might be more pop-oriented than, say, Reba, it's still pretty sophisticated stuff--albeit in a different way. There are just so many levels on which any art can be considered sophisticated. Trey's older songs were sophisticated on one level, but pretty damn immature on another.

As a side note: all that fugal early Phish stuff was not nearly as complex as you might believe. It's all based on pretty basic music theory, and it's much more mechanical than it is creative.

If I had to guess, I'd say that 80% or more of the people who come on here and bitch about Trey's new music being too simple and pop-friendly are under the age of 25. All I can say is: my apologies that you weren't around for the bulk of Phish's incredible run. I loved all the fugal stuff when I was your age too. Trey has outgrown that music, and most likely, so will you. For now, go see Umphrey's McGee. I think they're a bunch of soul-less alien robots, but they sure do write "complex" songs.

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Mon 11/13/2006 11:14AM
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EVILFUNK

....the anti trey thing has reduced itself to rhetoric. i dont like what i have heard of shine but i can also point out what i dont like about it without saying the same shit as the last 50 people did...

" birds of a feather are flocking outside"

a bad 'buzz' is on out in the recess yard about his new stuff. a bunch of people coming back from the Vegas saying "treys huge ego took over the phil show". "hmmmm... verry interesting" i say...im genuinely interested in the music and trey anastasio so i ask " what do you mean" or can you explain what you mean by when you say this" ....so far i have completely stumped a few people by asking them what they mean when they offer the typical opinion - the one all of tiher friends offered them at the verry moment the opinion became thiers.

how did medeski sound?

Surfhuman starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/14/2006 11:59AM
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Nice piece except for the opening evolution BS that our modern culture is falling for. Question this dominant paridigm people!! Trey is a human trying to find his way like us all. Why is it necessary to dog Trey? I don't give a crap if he writes stuff I don't like. Somebody will love it. I'm curious why Trey cares so much about what people think about his music. It seems that his song writing is a very personal experience these days and that he's not really writing to please other people, but to find that joy in channeling melodic/harmonic music and ideas.

theivywall starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 02:18AM
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theivywall

Mr. Palmer is concerned with a thousand dollar question
Just like Roger he's a crazy little kid
I've got the time if you've got the inclination
Cheer up Palmer, you'll soon be dead

Enjoy and appreciate beauty and truth where you find it and, I think we all know within our own open hearts and minds when we find it... this way you won't have to build and destroy each other's heirarchal pyramids of artistic superiority or inferiority and can dig what you dig. It takes two to tango, if you're not connecting to a peace of art, maybe your senses are dulled, or perhaps that piece of art just doesn't speak to YOU at the moment. As long as Trey's putting out stuff that speaks to his true feelings and thoughts right now...ya know...that's probably...going to be good. Save some of the fuel you're burning debating the pan-cultural validity of different artists for booty shaking and feet stomping at the next panic\moe\umphreys\cindy lauper show

crgeorge starstarstarstar Thu 11/16/2006 02:08PM
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Late night Trey at the Orleans was incredible. Easily the best a Trey band has sounded since the ealy days. Check out http://youtube.com/watch?v=LGuF83Aelg4 for a sweet Vegoose video...

szangomango Sat 11/18/2006 10:12PM
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I've loved phish (and trey) since 92 but I cant stand the new Trey sound. I've given it a lot of chances, and I just dont like it. The first Trey band was awesome... they threw down the funk, but the new pop stuff isnt for me...

I have nothing to say negative about Trey, either you like the music, or you dont... but ive given up on him until i hear something i like again...

lawnboyMK09 Sat 11/18/2006 11:27PM
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lawnboyMK09

All I have to say is that its sad that an artist like trey even has to defend any of his artistic outpourings to a "social scene" of people who feel like they have nothing better to do than to criticize a sound they may or may not like. Everyone has an opinion but do you have to express it like an asshole? Think about the fact that if it were not for artists like trey (no matter what band they are or are not playing for) many of you would never even know what an orgazim felt like. Much love to all of you who keep it positive. Peace to all...respect to trey

tempest156 Mon 11/20/2006 11:57AM
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"My dream is that one person one day would hear some song that I wrote and have it brighten their day a little bit," he says. "I absolutely live for that, and if that can happen, then it would make me really, really happy...."
I know that every Phish fan feels this way when they hear their favorite song. So, Trey, you've already achieved this.

fademyster Wed 11/22/2006 09:44AM
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fademyster

tempest156 right below me actually just said everything I wanted to say. Thank You!

Irie Marquise Wed 11/22/2006 04:27PM
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Trey your music is one of the only things that put a smile on my face everyday as i sit in my office and stare at my computer. You have acomplished your goal a thousand times over! Thank you!!!!!!!!!

hip_e starstarstarstarstar Mon 11/27/2006 07:35AM
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hip_e

great, articulate article. what an amazing man.

phreak89 starstarstarstarstar Mon 11/27/2006 08:04PM
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phreak89

i'm glad to see more people warming back up to Trey again. i hated seeing so many people resenting a man with such increadable talant and skill that made so many be able to forget the day to day bullshit and sinply enjoy life. "out intent is all for your delight" as was hoisted in the air aat the entrence to the Phish It festaval. well, i must day i am pretty damn delighted by this man, his bands and his intentions. i have only been getting nto Phish adn the jam scene for about 2 years now and i must say that in that time, Trey and his music have made me see a whole new outlook on music, life and the world around me, and i thank him with all my heart.

lipsey655 Thu 12/14/2006 01:35PM
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shine/bar 17= not cool

Scobie Thu 12/14/2006 10:36PM
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I am not so sure about this or not, but a friend of mine who works at a venue outside of Indy (I used to work their also) told me that they have already booked Phish for a summer dates. I am not sure about this but I have also heard the same story from other evil Clear Channel/ Live Nation folks in the midwest. Maybe next summer will pick up.

bbqribs starstarstar Fri 12/15/2006 08:07PM
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bbqribs

My hope for a new day is this. Get out of Jail!!

landoflizards Sat 12/16/2006 03:26PM
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landoflizards

People talking about Phish reunions is getting really old. It is not happening anytime soon and if it did it would be purely nostalgic. You need to accept that it has changed and move on. By the way I heard that Frankenstein is working around the clock to bring Jerry back to life...in which case I will see you all on tour.

PCPrabbit Tue 12/19/2006 09:38AM
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PCPrabbit

nobody's bringing jerry garcia back to life. he died in 1995. reanimation is impossible. ernest (trey) is a mess. find some music that is not a mess and your ears will be happy (unless you're into messes).

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Wed 12/20/2006 09:13AM
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EVILFUNK

heres a link to an awesome Jeff Sipe interview on jambands.com this guy is one of the best we have>>>
http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_11_21.09.phtml

MelbaToast starstarstarstarstar Sat 12/23/2006 09:42AM
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MelbaToast

How can anyone trash Trey - even his mugshot is freakin cute!

theorb419 Sun 12/24/2006 12:42PM
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theorb419

If you like Jeff Sipe, check out Hellborg, Lane, and Sipe's TEMPORAL ANALOGUES OF PARADISE. It's Shawn Lane (RIP), one of the greatest, if not the greatest, guitarists of all time, Jonas Hellborg, one of the best bassists of all time, and Jeff Sipe. Awesome progressive jamming. Check it out!!!

PCPrabbit Tue 1/9/2007 01:10PM
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PCPrabbit

my dog is cute. she is also a guitar player for the band "dolfin". she rips harder than trey and does way more drugs!

fukjambands Tue 1/9/2007 02:35PM
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Send the junkie to rehab Trey is so pathetic
His records suck and if PHISH does come back
it will be an act of prostitition
Have fun spending 80 bucks a day The jokes
on you LOSERS Hope you all get jacked up in
one of those roadblocks Indiana pigs are so
famous for Your all a bunch of tired whores

theheatson Thu 1/11/2007 06:22AM
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Listen here all you over opinionated ear nazi's! Your a bunch of jaded douche bags! Trey will be back and so will Phish, and I don't give fuck what anyone calls it. Nostalgic act, selling out whatever. Hopefully it means there is a few less morons to deal with when they do come back. I'm patient I can wait. When it's time it will happen. All the great ones have their demons. Hopefully Trey will conquer his,and be stronger for it!

BooneRes Wed 1/17/2007 07:31AM
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BooneRes

Hey they could get Jimmy Hearing to sit in so they could keep touring like some smoney hungry mucisians I know............shitttttttttttt

Skiff Fri 1/19/2007 10:45AM
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Unlike Phish, I don't really feel like this guy is worth all the attention he recieves. His music is pretty boring and he's still falling back on these gratuitous guitar solo's over one-chord-vamps so he can show off all his sweet licks. Boring. I'm not trying to take away from what he's accomplished but honestly, what he's doing just sounds like there is no substance to it.

breckenridgejam Mon 1/22/2007 07:02AM
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breckenridgejam

At least Jimmy Herring is reliable and doesn't have to go to Rehab for being a junkie...

être starstarstarstarstar Mon 1/29/2007 08:33PM
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être

Being critical of another human being's admitted drug problem is WEAK!

specialpurpose starstarstarstarstar Tue 1/30/2007 06:01PM
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Huh Huh...You said homo erectus...sweet...

Man Mountain Jr Fri 2/2/2007 11:15AM
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FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH!

The Glens Falls Post-Star has reported that “a Washington County grand jury on Thursday filed a felony drug possession charge” against Trey Anastasio. On December 15, Anastasio was arrested in Whitehall, New York while diving erratically. The story indicates that in addition to prescription painkillers, a substance was found in the car later was determined to be heroin. As a result, the grand jury opted to file the felony charge. A formal indictment is expected to issue next week with the arraignment to follow.