TEA LEAF GREEN: DISSECTING THEIR CRAFT

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By Ann Marie Svilar

"That's the thing about rock & roll; it's the attitude you bring to it," says Josh Clark astutely.

"That's the thing about Tea Leaf Green," I think to myself. "It's the attitude they bring to their shows."


Tea Leaf Green with Barry Sless
09.29.06 - GAMH, SF by Josh Miller
Tea Leaf Green is Scott Rager (drums), Ben Chambers (bass, vocals), Josh Clark (guitar, mandolin, vocals), Trevor Garrod (keys, vocals, harmonica, guitar, banjo).

It is the combination of great personalities that these four guys bring to their music that makes them special. What you see is what you get, and what you are seeing is four guys who love what they do.

"It's fucking romantic as hell," Trevor says without hesitation when asked what he loves about being a band constantly playing live shows. "You get to meet a lot of people," Ben chimes in. There is a youthful curiosity to Tea Leaf Green, which is probably how they got their label as "postmodern flower children."


Scott Rager - Tea Leaf Green
09.30 - The Fillmore, SF by C. Flanigan
They are a rock & roll band with a jamming soft spot, but even when packing places like The Fillmore, they still maintain a welcoming feeling onstage.

It's the same welcomed feeling I get when sitting down with Tea Leaf Green on a sunny Monday afternoon prior to their two-night run in their hometown of San Francisco, playing one acoustic night at Great American Music Hall and one night plugged-in at The Fillmore.

Our conversation was very natural. From the first handshake, I felt like I should take off my shoes, rest one foot on the amplifier, and stay a while.

I ask Tea Leaf Green to give me Ten Commandments of stage performance. I wish for ten, expecting five, and they offer over thirty, bouncing words off each other like they do music. Anything from serious answers to thou shall not "throw your guitar in the air and fail to catch it."

I can't help but smile; these boys are people I would choose as friends. They've got a tweed jacket sort of style, comfortable, down-to-earth, appropriate anywhere, yet all the while classy. Thankful for my tape-recorder, I wanted to catch everything they said. Great conversationalists, Tea Leaf Green is part intelligence and part damn good sense of humor. It's this aspect of their personality that makes Tea Leaf Green so easy to fit in with and so easy to be around. They are an accessible band, and it is their versatile sort of nature that transfers so nicely on stage and ultimately makes them so special. Being with Tea Leaf Green in-person is like being at one of their shows; it's an all-access kind of feeling. It's like they invited us to their show, not charged admission to get us there.


Trevor Garrod - TLG
09.29.06 - GAMH, SF by Josh Miller
Always paying attention to their fans and the mood of the crowd, Tea Leaf Green is a high-energy band that seeks to pump up its audience. It's a rarity to walk away from a show feeling like you didn't dance enough. But what happens when TLG goes acoustic? When you think of an acoustic show, in general you picture the band sitting down, the intimacy, maybe even some ballads amongst those covers. What does that energetic nature turn into when everything comes unplugged?

"It's a sit-down kind of show" says Trevor. "If you're going to stand, you gotta dance. I mean, I can't just stand there and watch a band. I have to keep on moving or else I'd like to sit down. The acoustic show is our opportunity for everybody to just sit down and really listen."


Josh Clark - TLG
09.29.06 - GAMH, SF by Josh Miller
In fact Josh didn't seem all that excited about the upcoming acoustic performance. "Coffee Bean Brown" was their original alter-ego acoustic band. They played a few shows across the city in smaller venues under that name until the wise management thought it was a bad idea to try to market two band names.

Josh talked about getting bored "plunkin' away just on an acoustic guitar." When referring to his pedals, he said, "It's nice to have stuff. Nice to have options." And though he did say he enjoys "dabbling in the acoustic arts," it was a challenge every time because he "just can't rip it on an acoustic."

I could see his point. There is no denying that Josh Clark is a "rip it" kind of guitarist.

"If I'm not going to rip, I'm going to sit down," Josh said.

But when the night finally arrived, the only one sitting during the entire show was Trevor when the grand piano called for that. Otherwise the crowd was dancing as wild as they always do, Ben rocking back and forth with a big grin on his face, Scott holding down the floor with the same seriousness of any plugged-in set, "tailoring the suit to fit," as Trevor described Scott on drums. And Josh, maybe taken with the audience's obvious excitement, at one point said, "I thought this was supposed to be the quiet show."


Trevor Garrod - TLG
09.29.06 - GAMH, SF by Josh Miller
Well it was, but how could it be with Trevor on the banjo for the first time in a live performance and each set being fourteen songs long, packed with crowd-pleasing funky tunes like "Georgie P," "Dragonfly," "Looking West," and a new "Barnacle Betty," a sort of eerie water song. This was definitely not a sit-down kind of show.

At one point during the tail of the second set, Trevor, in a Mick Jagger sort of rock 'n' roll move, dropped to his knees, microphone in hand, shaking his blond head and screamed, "Get it on, get it on." Then standing to his feet, he said to the audience, "I've always wanted to do that. Feels good." It did feel good.

In fact the biggest difference between this acoustic night and their usual shows was the extra instruments they played. In total these instruments included a banjo, mandolin, acoustic guitars, acoustic bass guitar, drums, harmonica, and a grand piano. From these instruments we heard bluegrass/country sounds on the opener "Taught To Be Proud." There were also some blues bass lines, funk, ragtime piano, rock & roll, etc. It was the same band, just more toys for them to show off their versatile ability to create that Tea Leaf Green sound.


Josh Clark - TLG
09.30 - Fillmore, SF by C. Flanigan
The Great American Music Hall was the right kind of setting for an acoustic show, with red walls, mirrors, and a wood ballroom dance floor on which Josh said his grandparents used to dance. The acoustic show felt like we were standing in Tea Leaf Green's living room, like they had invited us over for a stiff cocktail and some nice music. Then the lights went up, and somehow it turned into a raging house party.

The party continued the following evening at The Fillmore with more of what the audience would expect, a rock & roll-based Tea Leaf Green taking improvisational risks. And the risks seemed to push the band to startling heights.

During the interview, Trevor said, "You do take risks, but they come of their own inspiration. You'll be playing something and hear something new kind of pop in, and you'll just go for it. And when it happens, it's awesome. And sometimes you go for it and you fail. 'I didn't have the chops to actually hit it.' I think that's okay. I think actually, when I watch someone play, I enjoy seeing a musician striving and failing. You know, you kind of can get where they are going. Sometimes it does totally suck, there's a fine line, but you know, it kind of wakes you up, it becomes more involving. Like there are people who are just absolutely wonderful musicians and play everything perfectly, and they are boring as hell 'cause they never make any mistakes. You just kind of go to sleep; the beauty of it just lulls you to sleep. But someone comes in and every now and then puts it to you to see if you're going to make it. 'Is he going to pull it off?' It kind of becomes like a ball game."


Tea Leaf Green
09.30 - Fillmore, SF by C. Flanigan
Josh agrees, "People who are the most accomplished musicians, who are beyond good, they end up like Kenny G or like easy listening. Rock & roll was never meant to be perfect. Rock & roll was meant to be sloppy."

But neither night felt sloppy, even though the risk-taking was certainly there, teasing the Herbie Hancock song "Chameleon" at The Fillmore Saturday and a lively rendition of Three Dog Night's "Mama Told Me Not To Come" that made me wish I had my roller skates.

Tea Leaf Green closed out the two nights with "The Garden (Part III)," the lyrics beginning, "Got a little bit of soul, got a little bit of rock & roll in my bones." I think it's obvious Tea Leaf Green has more than that. After all, it's really the attitude you bring to rock & roll, and these guys certainly have that covered.

JamBase | San Francisco
Go See Live Music!

[Published on: 9/28/06]
 

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jamcamdvd starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/12/2006 05:41PM
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Been supporting these guys since we shot 'em for the very first JamCam DVD almost 3 years ago, and it's so good to see them gettin' their due. Congrats on the new CD/DVD release, guys, and hope to see/shoot you again on Jam Cruise 5!

ManyRoads starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/12/2006 05:42PM
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ManyRoads

Two more days 'till I board a flight to the Planet of Green Love in NYC! Keep bringing the INSPIRATION boys. Much love for TLG and the scene. Good people all around.

robo2448 starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/12/2006 05:43PM
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Sweet article. TLG is amazing. So good and seem like really cool guys.

carphishhead starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/12/2006 06:07PM
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carphishhead

A great article. I love hearing about these guys. Plus we get a tight video to boot. Thanks JamBase.

Still waiting for Snoop Dogg to appear onstage with them ;-)

sideslide starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/12/2006 07:47PM
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Saw TLG at The Independent in San Fran. on 12/30 and was so blown away I sold my Claypool tickets and went back on the 31st...total real deal! Good to see quality press with these guys, great job! Can't wait for Halloween at the Fox! DEATHCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!!!!!!

theterriblebob Thu 10/12/2006 11:29PM
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theterriblebob

AZ?!?! saw these guys with 6 or less a bunch of times all over AZ but theres no AZ Tourdates? keep the green love flowin where its growin!! lets see some AZ shows soon guys!! flagstaff loves TLG

JnaY starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/13/2006 03:37AM
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OOOH yeah... it was a dream to see Barry Sless with TLG! That night was pure and origonal. Loved the banjo sound. Can't wait till the next west coast show!

grossjoe7 starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/13/2006 07:59AM
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These guys are for real... Check them out if you haven't yet!

chowdahead Fri 10/13/2006 08:24AM
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We get it, you guys at Jambase like Tea Leaf Green. Please stop with the monthly features though, you act like their personal publicist.

CDR Fri 10/13/2006 09:01AM
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Hey Chowdahead

No room for hate. Yake your negativity on tour with Trey. Get a grip.

micapawgroove starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/13/2006 11:44AM
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i second the call to FLAGSTAFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

koach Fri 10/13/2006 11:58AM
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yeah chowdahead, GO KICK YOUR DOG or something...

phishmanxx Fri 10/13/2006 11:59AM
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Have yet to be able to dig these guys....but always good to hear a hard working band getting props. Will have to check them out again...last time was in Maine fronting for Mule

ManyRoads starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/13/2006 01:22PM
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ManyRoads

different strokes for different folks. my experience when first seeing the band was that tlg is much better in a full show (compared to a 1 hour festival or opening spot) where their jams have room to expand, contrast, and, yes, inevitably <>.

ManyRoads starstarstarstarstar Fri 10/13/2006 01:23PM
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ManyRoads

oops....EXPLODE

jcharlen star Fri 10/13/2006 02:40PM
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i'm somewhere between chowdahead and phishman. Not a big TLG fan--seen 'em many times, both at festys and elsewhere--but I know they're great guys, and I understand why people like them. Just not my thing...Josh has a great point that some people focus too much on being technically good, and that R&R isn't about that. BUT, Jam Rock is still a craft, and one that can be learned, improved upon, and perhaps even mastered (Phish/Dead). It's all good to bring a fat party to the people, but when I see TLG, I feel the party has surpassed the music in importance. I'd like to see these guys take music a little more seriously when they're OFF STAGE, and then let it rip when it's showtime.

As for Jambase... we all should know by now that there is very little journalism on this site. Jambase is made up of advertising salespeople and techies. The stories are submitted by volunteers, and as long as they don't say anything bad about one of Jambase's pet bands, it gets published.

jz Fri 10/13/2006 03:46PM
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hey jcharlen, as a contributor to the base for more than five years, i can tell you that im neither a techie nor an ad sales guy but a professional music journalist thats been published all over the net and in print. the reason i -- and many of the writers who contribute to this site -- keep coming back to jambase is bc of the nourishment it gives to a community we believe in. yes, there isnt the same degree of objectivity here as youd find in a newspaper, but this is a site for support and critique. youll find tough reviews of jambases "pet" bands when theyre deserved, but for the most part jambase functions as zines do, or maybe a more sophisticated blog -- its a place for those of us who love music of all sorts to show some appreciation in a public space.

im kinda surprised you havent figured that out by now.

all of the writers here do it for the love of the music, and i can assure you that there is a dedicated editorial staff at the site that harbors the same passion. nobodys getting rich of this stuff, thats for sure. the cynical attitude is out of place here.

take a look at all the non-"pet" bands featured over the last month -- tv on the radio, man man, !!!, the roots. the staff and contributors have been doing a great job of diversifying coverage, but theres always gonna be a place for those bands that fit neatly into the jam category, and tea leaf is one of the current best of that bunch. and they are cool guys too.

your critique of tea leaf is really well articulated -- youre exactly the type of fan that could be a good writer and contributor to the site. go for it!

man, that was a lot more than i expected to write. but the format and the motivations of this site are no secret to anyone, or so i thought.

jcharlen Fri 10/13/2006 04:02PM
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jz. i hear you. reading my post, it sounds much more cynical than i intended. I didn't mean to diss the contributers. What I did mean to do was point out to the folks who were complaining about the TLG coverage that "Jambase" as an entity is mostly salespeople and techies, plus a FEW editors. That's not a bad thing at all. I love and appreciate what Jambase does for this community. Your description of this site is right on--it IS more of a superblog, a public forum that's given some shine by talented editors and designers. That said, I do think many people believe Jambase to be an editorial publication.

Anyhow...here's to a healthy discussion!

jcharlen Fri 10/13/2006 04:09PM
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jz. i hear you. reading my post, it sounds much more cynical than i intended. I didn't mean to diss the contributers. What I did mean to do was point out to the folks who were complaining about the TLG coverage that "Jambase" as an entity is mostly salespeople and techies, plus a FEW editors. That's not a bad thing at all. I love and appreciate what Jambase does for this community. Your description of this site is right on--it IS more of a superblog, a public forum that's given some shine by talented editors and designers. That said, I do think many people believe Jambase to be an editorial publication.

Anyhow...here's to a healthy discussion!

jz Fri 10/13/2006 04:37PM
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truth is, zines and blogs and the internet in general have gone a long way towards blurring what is and is not an "editorial publication." jambase was one of the first sites on the web to do that, an innovator in allowing this type of fan-based interaction. you mention the editors and designers whove gotten shine from the base, but what about the bands? jambase has been pretty crucial in helping along more than a few careers -- ALO, TLG, p-groove, sts9, bisco, and tons more that are new staples of the scene. chances are, if you read jambase you love at least one of those bands, so heres your chance to thank these folks for helping the musicians you respect get the ears they deserve.

but this is the crux -- none of those bands paid money to be featured on jambase. they might pay for ads or emails or whatever, but for a long time now kayceman and deanne have been zeroing in on the bands they want covered with no input coming from the publishing or advertising side of the operation. again, its writers and editors calling out the music they dig. newspapers and magazines work the same exact way. you just have to trust the integrity of the organization, and the base has nothing if not integrity up the wazoo.

jambase is an editorial publication, but a nontraditional that operates similarly to a lot of alt-weeklies around the country. and jambase is very clear about its subjectivity from the outset: go see live music! it has its own slant and agenda, and if youre here its probably bc thats your agenda too.

that said, hellyeah for healthy discussion!


All Loving Liberal White Guy Fri 10/13/2006 05:02PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

yo jc,

jambase does not have pet bands. if thats what your looking for than go over and read the agenda ridden stuff by the "writers" of bitchdork....i mean pitchfork. any band that the hipsters love get praise up the wazoo and anything that is different gets shit on. as for jambase, the term "jam" in it's name does not mean jam band but instead to jam as in playing music. and for all of you loyal readers, get ready because MASTODON is about ready to conquer the base. can i get an amen?!! !

jz Fri 10/13/2006 05:23PM
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whoa whoa what there ciffy -- i write for the 'fork too, and tho those guys have a much more rigid worldview when it comes to who they cover, theyre just as dedicated to the music as jambase. pitchfork, in fact, has been around even longer than this site, tho its only recently blown up in a mainstream way, thanks to mainstream co-opting of indie attitude. they have their favorites, just like jambase, tho they try to remain more detached in their support -- which lends the site an elitist tone. but theyre mostly critical, serious music fans, too serious if anything. and while some of the writing is indeed cliched and longwinded, there are some enormously talented music writers on pfork, and im not talking about myself.

like this particular thread, they incite strong reactions in people, which no matter how you slice it is a good thing.

All Loving Liberal White Guy starstarstarstar Fri 10/13/2006 05:58PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

i hear what yer sayin jz, it's just that like NME, people take pichfork too serioulsy and it seems like they tout up a lot of bands that have no label, humble roots (which isnt a bad thing) and self released their album. just look at tapes n tapes and clap your hands say yeah. both are good bands but the amount of publicity they've gotten as a result is a bit too much. and if bands on small indie labels get a favorable review, than they pretty much have a major label deal locked in their sites within the near future. i have much for ryan schreiber and what he did by making a sucess story out of a site like that especially with no writing and college experience. while not speaking of all thier writers, there a lot of them that do however favor whatever is considered as "lo-fi" and giving inordanate praise to obscurity. some of the record reviews are written in a snooty tone. the criticism doesnt seem constructive enough, even when a low one is give. i hate the band jet but pitchfork instead of emphasizing as to why it should have been given a low number, instead showed a chimpanzee pissing in it's mouth. how can you take that seriously? thats all well and good for buddyhead but not for pitchfork. and why do their writers always write in the first person and tell yarns from their lives that are completely unrelated? oh well, no form of music media is perect but a lot of bands, record industry folks, and other music journalists and publicists, all have pretty negative things to say about p-fork. you think thats a coincidence? bloc party got an 8.0, the rapture's echoes got 9.0 and both interpol albums got good marks too. and you claim their is no hispter agenda?!

anyhow, here's to healthy debate and for jambase keeping the deep converations and musings flowing.

SirLoin Sat 10/14/2006 02:07AM
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SirLoin

these are the biggest posts ive ever encountered. anyways, i started listening to tlg about a year ago, thought they were awesome and passed their cd around like no other. saw em at a bar in chicago and they just tore it up, probably the funnest show ive ever been to. so i saw kept going to more and more shows, but each time i just dont feel it like before. this could happen with any band, but in the jam scene, myself, and almost anyone else who loves this genre, is looking for surprises and jaw dropping moments, tlg does rock, but i think a lot of their jams go in the same place, space> build up> explode, almost the same formula everytime. its all good, tea has already gained my respect and a lot of my cash, so im a fan for sure. i like em a lot, but its one of those things you just cant really love. ben holds it down tho, each time that motherfucker just makes me smile.

-m. esquandolas

jcharlen Sat 10/14/2006 11:33AM
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YO JZ. Just to clarify: I didn't say the editors/designers were GETTING shine from JB, I said they GAVE shine to it. As in, what seperates Jambase from a blog is that those guys do a great job of putting it all together. It was a compliment!

I am, in fact, just putting the finishing touches on my threads for tonight's "Abnormal Formal" with ALO at the Fillmore. I've known the guys in both ALO and Tea Leaf Green longer than anyone at Jambase, and I'm THRILLED that they have benefited so much from the publicity they've recieved.

As far as I'm concerned, Jambase is just good people doing good things for other good people. Nothing wrong with that! I don't come here for objectivity...most of the show reviews, for example, are written by people who were RAGING at the show. I take most of the "reviews" simply as an account of how much fun the writer had that night. Likewise, I've read "bad reviews" on Jambase of shows that I attended (and thought were great) that just sounded more like the writer was in a bad head space. Long story short, in this world of improvisation, spontaneity, glow sticks, and glitter: objectivity is about as scarce as republicans.

JC

shinjuku starstarstar Sat 10/14/2006 12:38PM
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shinjuku

There a cool band, but tend to bore me. Even after really giving them an honest listen a few times over...Sorry.

Chapelchilla starstarstarstar Sun 10/15/2006 09:08PM
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I think that it speaks well of Jambase that they are supporting up and coming musicians that work as hard as Tea Leaf. They play a ton of shows, are good and only getting better. Their bandwagon is going to grow so we better get used to hearing more about them. It sure beats another round of "when is Phish getting back together" or "who is Widespread's next guitarist gonna be". Sweet Leaf!!!

surlybuf Sun 10/15/2006 11:18PM
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Yo, JZ! For such a published columnist you should get a keyboard with a working shift button.

jjwood starstar Mon 10/16/2006 09:09AM
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Somebody should tell Josh Green that in order to make quality music, you have to leave spaces BETWEEN the notes! The one time I saw this band -- at the Fox Theatre back in March -- Josh's overplaying became too overbearing, to the point I left after six songs.

gkord starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/16/2006 09:54AM
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you can tell Josh "Green" all you want about leaving space between notes... but he doesnt play in TLG so i don't think that will affect the music much...

Teabagger starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/16/2006 02:19PM
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Teabagger

What other jam band could pull off an acoustic show? These guys right great lyrics and they can flat out play. What more could you ask for? Best band in the land.

Teabagger starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/16/2006 02:19PM
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Teabagger

Of course, the also write great lyrics. (You can tell I'm not their lyricist.)

kvoelkel Mon 10/16/2006 02:48PM
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kvoelkel

Hay teabagger, not to prove you wrong or anything but YMSB put on one hell of an acoustic show


All who yonder are not lost!

jz Tue 10/17/2006 09:48AM
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ciffy, youre totally right about the meandering format and first-person asides you find in a lot of pfork reviews. its so predictable at this point that some dude came up w a drinking game to play while reading pitchfork

http://mw.cracked.com/2006/10/the_pitchfork_media_drinking_g_1.php

which is totally spot-on.

but consider this: i wrote over 50 album reviews for pitchfork in a little over a years time. these were 500-word-long, in-depth reviews. as a writer, you gotta go somewhere w that, you gotta get creative and think outside the box, otherwise you get bored and bore the reader w the same straightforward analysis every time. im not saying this to excuse longwinded and off-point reviews, which there are plenty of over there, but to explain why many writers go tangential. if done right, it can be really effective and engaging.

and as far as pforks "hipster agenda," that exists only as much as jambases "hippie agenda." you know what i mean? theres a certain brand of music that both of these sites specialize in. is that an agenda? nah, i see it as more of a niche. and just like jambase helped p-groove "break" w only local label support, pfork helped tapes n tapes go big. career boosting is one of the things that both the fork and the base can be proud of, really making a difference in a bands trajectory.

the bloc party disc is awesome, btw, and the new rapture album is seriously funky. both deserve the marks they got and possibly deserve a little love from the base, too. esp rapture -- thats a dance album all the way, w tight, punk-funk beats instead of space-shot solos. interpol i could do without.

Chaloupka Tue 10/17/2006 11:33AM
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Chaloupka

Whether his name is Josh Green or Josh Clark, it doesn't really change the fact that he is the weak link in TLG. He doesn't suck, but he certainly is not a "monster" like some other poster said he was. The only reason people think he's so good is that TLG is getting really popular. I've seen plenty guitar players from bands that aren't near as popular who could all blow Clark off the stage.

All Loving Liberal White Guy Tue 10/17/2006 01:12PM
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