VOLTA UNVEILED: AN INTERVIEW WITH CEDRIC

 
I did time growing up listening to The Misfits and really angular, angry stuff, but then I graduated and blossomed from that. I'm just more in touch with female energy as far as that's concerned 'cause there's so much aggressive energy going on behind me that I think it needs the high notes. It needs to pierce, it needs to have that banshee quality, I think.

-Cedric Bixler-Zavala

 
Photo of Cedric from tmvfr.info

It's interesting you bring up Nina Simone, because that was one of the things I wrote down in my notes about your own vocal approach. Your vocals are very reminiscent in my mind of female jazz singers like Nina Simone with the melismatic approach. Would you consider Nina Simone one of your chief influences?


Cedric Bixler-Zavala from tmvfr.info
Yeah, definitely one of them. I mean, I've always had a super, super strong Bjork undercurrent in what I do. There have been times where I'm singing something and I think, "Fuck, that's from the first Sugarcubes album. That's 'Coldsweat' to a T." So I have to figure out a way to make it an influence and not a Xerox copy. I would say female energy is more part of what I do vocally than anything else. I did time growing up listening to The Misfits and really angular, angry stuff, but then I graduated and blossomed from that. I'm just more in touch with female energy as far as that's concerned 'cause there's so much aggressive energy going on behind me that I think it needs the high notes. It needs to pierce, it needs to have that banshee quality, I think.

It presents a nice yin and yang thing from the music to your vocals...

Even if I get made fun of for it sometimes, like opening up for System of a Down. There are tons of males in the audience who don't know if I'm a guy or a girl. I guess that's a good thing. I guess it makes them think a little. It might give some small kid the courage, if he has that range, to not be afraid to dive right into it. Not everything has to be macho and so tough all the time.


John Frusciante by Michael Jurick
For the last album, I'd read in a previous interview that Omar had everyone in the band play their parts completely on their own without any knowledge of the other musicians' parts in order to have you guys play without any kind of preconceived notions as to what was being done before you did your take. Was that the same approach that was taken for this album?

Yeah, definitely. Even though people rehearsed the parts, they didn't know how it all connected. Certain songs are just chopped all together and there were places where we only kept certain little parts that seemed the coolest. No one understood where it was going, but that's fun because you tend to put a certain emotion into it when you don't know what's going on, when you don't know that there's a left turn coming up or anything like that. It's just fun that way. It helps diffuse the purpose of doing what technically proficient musicians tend to do, which is just talk about it and overanalyze it. By that time, it's lunch and you've wasted studio time.

I wanted to ask you about your relationship with John Frusciante. I know that he worked on this album. Can you tell me how you guys first met and his role in the production of this record?

I first met John with our other band, De Facto. We opened up for him and then he and Omar were just inseparable after that. They just became really good friends, and I think they influence each other back and forth all the time.


The Mars Volta
Because he'd played on the other records, it just seemed natural for him to be on this record. Since Omar had to produce the record, he would teach John a song right before we were gonna track it, literally. I'd walk up to the studio, and they'd be on the street corner sitting on the sidewalk learning a song right before we were gonna record it. That way, Omar could be hands-free, directing everyone in sort of a Zappa-type mode, I guess. It worked because John can do that. John can learn something no matter how complicated, no matter how many parts. He can learn it right then and there, and that's what we needed. That's what Omar needed so that he could be the producer and kinda stand outside of the situation and listen to it without having to play guitar, especially for these songs. Some of the parts demand so much attention that I don't think he could be doing the role of producer and guitar player at the same time. So John is like a great secret weapon to have. He knows what is needed immediately and helps speed things along. There wasn't too much art school discussion over it. We just did it and it was over. It was fast and it was great.

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[Published on: 9/28/06]


 

Comments

crazyleggedelbow starstarstarstarstar Thu 9/28/2006 10:32PM
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hell fucking yes. more articles on my favorite band please?! thank you!

check out volta opening for the chili peppers! or go to vegoose!!! anyone who went to bonnaroo 2005 and saw them understands what this band is about!!

this band will put you on your ass. it will scare you like jim morrison used to do... freaks me out man!!!


i'm upset their original drummer left, but we will survive and we will get by. aloha, aloha & aloha

karacter0 star Fri 9/29/2006 08:03AM
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karacter0

mars volta sucks. don't ever compare them to zappa again.

Vega Productions starstarstarstarstar Fri 9/29/2006 08:12AM
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Vega Productions

Thank you Volta for injecting some intelligent, thought provoking music into our scene--which often gets too blissfully caught up in the moment to actually wrap its nappy dreads around some heavy phsychophilisophicalsociological issues...

z man starstarstarstarstar Fri 9/29/2006 11:18AM
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Volta brings the sickness. these guys to me are incredible and are getting good recognition theses days the recognition desereved. Nobody rocks the air like em today."Its just a matter of opinion"

Kayceman Fri 9/29/2006 11:26AM
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Kayceman

karacter0:

Out of curiosity, what makes you more qualified to compare an artist to Zappa as opposed to the folks who are actually making the music, and pretty clearly doing it in a fashion that Zappa helped forge? I'm rather interested in your response, hopefully you can enlighten us. Just a curious music fan.

gmoo starstar Fri 9/29/2006 11:39AM
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gmoo

These guys are not good live, just a big wall of sound. Zappa comparison is not close. Not to mention the fact that they proudly claim that the majority (white folks) can't make good music. Every time I've seen these guys they have given us (the crowd) the middle finger after they finish. I mean cmon, zappa? If you want zappa listen to Larry Lalonde from Primus or Adrian Belew. Thanks for trying tho jambase.

sbittman starstarstarstarstar Fri 9/29/2006 01:51PM
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sbittman

Kayceman:

First of all, I kinda like the Mars Volta, don't know too much about them. Heard they suck live from a few folks but have also heard good things.

As someone who has been reading jambase for the past few years it is obvious to me that mars volta is your favorite band, bar none. In fact it seems when jambase gives any coverage it comes from your pen. Each article/review/top 5 list boasts your unabashed love for Mars Volta and leaves the reader knowing that you think Mars Volta is God's gift to music.

In fact I planned on reading this interview initially to see how you could possibly top your previous praises. I was shocked to see that Andy Tenille had written it. Then I scrolled down to see the comments and saw that someone had questioned the Zappa/Mars Volta comparison. A couple comments up you bashed the poor kid saying his opinion wasn't credible. What do you know about the person making that comment or their credibility? Nothing. Then you signed it as just a curious music fan. Ha.

Do me a favor, write an objective piece and get off The Mars Volta's nuts.

Primer starstarstarstarstar Fri 9/29/2006 03:04PM
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The Mars Volta sucks live??? They are easily one of the best touring acts out there. I understand if you don't get their music, but they are an incredible band to watch, so in tune with one another. (Just remember to bring your ear plugs, cus they bring it).
This band isn't for everyone. But to say they aren't talented is just lying to yourself. They are incredible musicians and a very important band. No one sounds like they do.
and this was a pretty damn interesting interview.

All Loving Liberal White Guy Fri 9/29/2006 04:26PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

who woulda thought that mars volta of all bands could stir up a hornets nest on the BASE's comment board ?

jerryil star Fri 9/29/2006 11:54PM
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jerryil

Please don't compare these clowns to Zappa ever again.

jerryil star Fri 9/29/2006 11:55PM
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jerryil

Wow Karacter0, I posted my comment before looking at the others. Right on brother, right on.

funkyriddims Sat 9/30/2006 08:42AM
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funkyriddims

These guys definately have skills, and can lay it down. I have all their albums cause I do like when they are jamming or hitting the vocals. The only problem with these guys is you have to listen to ten minutes of ambient moaning and car crash sounds before the ever get into the meat of the song. Almost all of their tunes are like that. the first track on Amputechture is a perfect example, theres no melody or song structure for the first eight or nine minutes of the song! I do like what these guys do, but I get tired of fast forwarding through half a cd to hear "music" as opposed to ambient trip food.
Good for chemically enhanced evenings at a show, bad for listening on your way to work.

Grupp starstarstarstar Sat 9/30/2006 12:40PM
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Grupp

I loved this read - nice to get a meaty interview of substance.
As for the bickering, my two pennies:
Cedric compares Omar to Zappa. And he has every right to do so. Are Zappa fans always so holier than thou? If you LISTEN, the FZ influence is clearly tangible. "Hot Rats" or "Grand Wazoo" era stuff is obvious on Amputechture tracks. What of the other comparisons? Where are the Nina Simone fans? Not offended? Weird.

Hotchkiss starstarstarstarstar Sat 9/30/2006 01:11PM
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Hotchkiss

this truely is funny! zappa "fans" who can't appreciate the mars volta.

sbittman, karacter0's comment has no credibility at all, sounds like my 9 year old nephew talking. same goes for jerryil.

i don't comment on a widespread/string cheese ect.. article just to talk shit. if i don't like a band i don't read thier article. if i'm curious about a band and read an article and see somthing i don't agree with, i don't post some childish name calling.

at least gmoo could construct more than 2 sentences. but i have to say, if you can't here the comparisons between zappa and the mars volta your freakin deaf.

jerryil star Sun 10/1/2006 01:41PM
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jerryil

To quote Mumia, "Sounds like my 9 year old nephew talking........, and "at least gmoo could construct more than 2 sentences. but i have to say, if you can't here the comparisons between zappa and the mars volta your freakin deaf." And finally "..... if I read an article and see something I don't agree with, I don't post some childish name calling." Childish name calling indeed. Posting varying oppinions on jambase is a healthy ordeal. If everyone agreed with Kacymanns picks lately, we would all be led astray. I find it helpful when there is an article praising (or trashing) a band to get some other perspectives. Ultimately, I check the band out myself. I have checked out the Mars Volta. I wish they would drop out. Wait... maybe next year they will replace MMJ at High Sierra and give them a run for their record of performing to an empty grandstand field and the coveted "can't even give a late night ticket away" awards.

Matthew Jaworski starstarstarstarstar Sun 10/1/2006 03:46PM
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Matthew Jaworski

Wow – what a bunch of misreading, over-analyzing, thin-skinned tools. Here's the sentence where Cedric references Zappa:

"That way, Omar could be hands-free, directing everyone in sort of a Zappa-type mode, I guess."

He's not even remotely comparing their music to Zappa's. Instead, he's talking about Omar employing a Zappa-esque orquestrating technique, in the studio.

And if you don't like the Mars Volta, think they're a bunch of "clowns," or think they suck, why are you bothering to read this article?

Nice interview, jambase.

jerryil star Sun 10/1/2006 05:26PM
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jerryil

ujawoma, you're hot!

Hotchkiss Sun 10/1/2006 10:34PM
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Hotchkiss

"If everyone agreed with Kacymanns picks lately, we would all be led astray."

led astray from what?

Matthew Jaworski Mon 10/2/2006 07:49AM
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Matthew Jaworski

thanks, jerryil - i got my hair did right before they took that pic ;)

alabamaslamma Mon 10/2/2006 01:16PM
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Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics; Even if you win, you're still retarded.

Good story, Ace.

Hotchkiss Mon 10/2/2006 06:20PM
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Hotchkiss

"but please think before you type; ask yourself if your comment will add anything to the discussion and be sure to read your comment before posting to make sure your intentions ring true."

seth4783 starstarstar Tue 10/3/2006 11:15AM
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i gave the mars volta a chance, i dont think they sound good live(especially 'roo '05). I wouldnt mind listening to the new album and give them another shot. I love me some zappa though, they shouldn't even be put in the same sentence. for now

carnivore2k star Tue 10/3/2006 08:14PM
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TMV sucks ass now. I had such high hopes. Deloused is one of my favorite albums ever. I was chomping at the bit for Frances. I was a little alarmed after that one. Great amazing energy, but what about the arrangements? vocal melodies? They just got more pompous and self-indulgent. Their biggest mistake: producing their own records. Deloused has a co-credit of Rick Rubin and Omar.
Now Cedric just sounds like a horrible combo of Geddy Lee and Robert Plant. Omar sounds like Robert Fripp in 5th grade. Jon Theodore was a great reason to listen and hang in there. But now he's gone. Listen to deloused and hear how they started at the top and are working their way down. RIP.

jameister Wed 10/4/2006 09:32PM
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I really wish they actually talked about DMT like the short description hinted at... if you don't know about dmt look it up on erowid.org it's truely mind boggling

Conjugal Burning starstarstarstarstar Thu 10/5/2006 02:53PM
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Conjugal Burning

carnivore2k--- Jon Theodore plays drums on amputechture, so keep talking shit and eating meat. Go watch a show!!! the songs off de-loused have evolved into much greater pieces of art. I miss Theodore drastically, but Blake Fleming rips it in recent performances.

Thanks Jambase for the article!

carnivore2k Mon 10/9/2006 10:15AM
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That is true Jon Theodore played on amputechure. You are right. But you can't expect a great drummer to carry the whole damn band, can you? I've been to TMV shows.

kellerisafeller Wed 10/18/2006 12:41PM
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kellerisafeller

i like the mars volta and their new cd but dont make them sound as good than they really are...hmmmm. zappa?

dedhed6111 starstarstarstarstar Sat 10/21/2006 01:21PM
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dedhed6111

If you people don't like the Mars Volta, then you are stupid. Yes, stupid. I am reverting to calling you childish names. And although nobody actually compared them to zappa in the article, I will. They fucking rock in the same tradition that zappa created. Frankie's probably smilin down at every MV show that you think sucked. And he's glad you think it sucks, because frank don't need poseurs listenin to the same music as him. they do not suck live, nor on record, they are a complete band, complete in vision, complete in talent, and complete in execution. Bashin Kayceman is one way to piss off a lot of loyal readers, and while his tastes may seem to have temporarily strayed from "jambands" lately, it all comes in the same vein, and I haven't been let down once. So please, all of you hating the the Mars Volta, piss off.

morter5730 starstarstarstarstar Mon 10/23/2006 06:35PM
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i think cedric and omar get off to eachother on the tour buss, maybe frusciante helps them too. i would like them allot more if their music wasnt so gay-friendly.

dedhed6111 Tue 10/24/2006 06:05PM
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dedhed6111

yeah dude, be careful. You might catch gay.

Evan Bozarth starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/1/2006 09:54AM
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Evan Bozarth

The mars Volta is a jamband in the purest form. They improvise and create music with such reckless abondon. I don't love every note they play, but that's not the point. great interview. very insightful...keep pushing the boundaries jambase.

Putnameter Wed 11/1/2006 10:45AM
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Putnameter

I really liked deloused, but they got a lil too weird for me, and maybe too weird for the old drummer. I thought he was fucking brilliant.

jonathanleeder Wed 11/1/2006 03:00PM
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I'm into Volta, not crazylike, but I give them props. I saw them open for the RHCP in Philly and they have skills, but as my buddy pointed out: musicanship doesn't = a good band. It was bad pairing of bands to say the least. There were moments, but they got lost in 8 minutes of repeatitive noise that sounded like a broken record. I wouldn;t see them again, but I'll continue to check out any new albums. They're just mad pretentious. Who wants to listen to birds chirrping for 2 minutes in the middle of a track, You're not Pink Floyd, get on with it!

Thurman Merman starstar Mon 11/6/2006 01:34PM
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Thurman Merman

Never could get into these guys, even though I like a bunch of indie rock. A lot of people here seem to like them, I don't know why I can't find stuff of there's worth while.

JimmyJamesx5 Tue 11/21/2006 04:39PM
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JimmyJamesx5

This band rocks live, i've heard the same thing from people who saw them open for System of a Down and the chili peppers, while the Volta isn't on the comercial level of this bands, to me the are more like a new pink floyd especial the song in spanish have a very dark and simple overtone as did many floyd songs. Check out their concept albums and i mena the Volta (F Mute) and maybe more people need to listen to the crickets chirping

Cburger07 starstarstarstarstar Thu 9/20/2007 05:48PM
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TMV is by far one of my favorite bands, and i saw them open up for SOAD, that was one of the best concerts ive been to, both TMV and SOAD tore up the stage.....TMV is like acid, its not for everyone and especially not for people with weak minds

aalbaglii starstarstarstar Wed 1/11/2012 08:22AM
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I absolutely LOVE this band, and don't care to explain why to others or myself. Not too crazy for Amputechture though. No use for comparisons, influences apparent nonetheless, they ARE unique, musically & linguistically. They have proven to be a religious and otherworldly experience.