LES CLAYPOOL: THE ART OF FALLING

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Since I've become involved in the jam world I get flak from people in other camps. Primus never fit in with anything, yet we kind of played with everybody. We did the Lollapaloozas. We did the Ozzfests. We did the H.O.R.D.E. fests. There are elements of each camp that really dislike the other camps.

-Les Claypool

 
Les Claypool at 10KLF 2005 by C. Monson

The Writing Life


Les Claypool by Jay Blakesberg
"South Of The Pumphouse started as a screenplay, and like the Pork Soda film I wanted to do, it was never made," explains Claypool about his first novel. "Actually, we put a production company together, raised money and lost money, had producers come on board and leave and give us a bunch of notes. We had meetings with various film companies, but it eventually fell apart. That's when I decided to write it as a book. You always get notes from people with a screenplay. 'It's great but I have some notes.' And you take their notes. You change what you think makes sense and won't hurt the story, and might actually help it. After you get notes from a handful of people, over time you start to realize that a lot of the notes are just wrong. Everybody has their opinion, and I think people are the most opinionated about film. It's just such a huge part of our lives."

The story follows two brothers reunited after many years at their father's funeral, after which they embark on a fishing trip with an old friend that goes terribly wrong. Claypool cites David Sedaris, Charles Bukowski, Ernest Hemingway, and Jean Shepherd as influences. He describes the books as "Deliverance meets The Old Man and the Sea." It's nice to see a veteran like Claypool so excited and nervous about being an author. "It's going to be interesting being in this world because I'm a bass player. I have no idea what I'm doing!"

Being Entertaining


Les Claypool by Jaci Downs
Claypool's frequent laughter reinforces the impression of him as a hyper-musical court jester. It's a role that's never sat well with him. The pressure to be constantly entertaining can often be a drag.

"In fact, it drives me nuts," says Claypool. "Some of the most creative people I know are also some of the most miserable people I know. I've had this conversation with my kids. My wife is incredibly even-keeled. She's just happy and doesn't let things get too stressful for her. My son is very much like that, but my daughter is more like me – either she's UP or she's DOWN. The peaks and valleys are equal. I can be cackling like a maniac one day, and the next I'm walking around in a funk. I think that's characteristic of a lot of people."

Expectations, like say my own about how Claypool would sound when we spoke, often get in the way of seeing things as they truly are. Those who expect Claypool to constantly be wacky are bound to be disappointed.

"I think if you worry about such things, you shouldn't meet your heroes," offers Claypool. "Ironically though, the people in the music industry have been largely amazing. I've worked with and befriended a good portion of my heroes. Every now and again, you'll meet someone who just lets you down. It's happened more with actors than musicians. I've tried to figure this out. Maybe it's because musicians are out there playing music, not being a character, which is what an actor is doing. For me, bass happens to be the main pencil I chose, just like Skerik and Mike and their instruments. Skerik does things with the saxophone that weren't in the manual. It's like Tony Hawk and his skateboard. It's fun to break out of what's expected."

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[Published on: 8/10/06]
 

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Tan starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 05:01PM
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Tan

As always Mr. Cook - thoroughly enjoyed.

"Unfortunately, there are still those people who stigmatize various things and won't cross certain boundaries. For me, with the jam scene, I really admire the notion of experimentation and freedom and how it's embraced no matter what it is." - Les Claypool

A lot of people who post on this site could learn a thing or two from Mr. Claypool...

bigchris starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 05:12PM
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very true. Les is an artist in every sense.

I wish he would get Primus going again. His latest "fancy band" was lacking in the rock dept.

Claypool for President-'08!

zappaphile starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 05:12PM
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zappaphile

Saw Les in Toronto this summer and I was blown away. I got into him via Oysterhead and am now hooked on Primus. To me he's Zappa meets George Clinton, with a dash of Bootzilla and Geddy Lee. I can't wait for the new Primus tour (wishful thinking?)

paulygparty Thu 8/10/2006 05:18PM
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ELECTRIC APRICOT!!!!

bnaylor Thu 8/10/2006 05:33PM
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Les is the best. i really feel that music would not be the same if les did not interduce the fancy band. could you imagine waiting every other year for claypool to come arond it would be shitty. Also give gabby some credit she is a hell of a sitar player and she brings in new music, its old after a while waiting for trey to show his ugly face. Les should clone himself and tour forever. Bring back bucethead les thank you for showing me true music.

Jekisa starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 07:22PM
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Jekisa

I just got to see Primus last week at Hedgpeth and I must say the difference in the show from the fancy band to Primus is amazing....Like the article says, he definately can jump that line from one style to the next..and i love it all..

and I'm patiently waiting for electric apricot to arrive....and wishing for a c2b3 tour

STEG187 starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 07:31PM
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STEG187

Dennis, you are the cream of the crop. Ironically, I personally have not enjoyed the direction much of Claypools music has taken. THe 2003 Tipitinas Sunday nite Fest closer w/ RW20 and the Frog Brigade remains one of the 10 best concerts I ever attended, but since that hallowed eve, for me its been all downhill. I enjoy Les in doses, but often times I feel that without Skerik and Mike Dillon he would be floundering. just my 2 cents.

Anyways, the writing and the communication between artist and journalist here is top notch, per usual. Dr. Cook you be THE MAN!!! Keep it up dunnie!

BG

Abcarian starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 10:06PM
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Claypool is the best musician we got going today. He is the most creative mind in the business and it is amazing that everything he does sounds different and is really good.
Claypool for President!!

Luthur starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 10:09PM
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Damn! Tanner wins again!

I saw Les for the first time since a long ago Horde Fest. Crazy Horse headlined. Morphine played on the parking lot stage. Anyhow, I saw him at Waka. Superfun. Good times. Screw the rest.

astroworms starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/10/2006 11:58PM
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astroworms

Les Claypool is so cool.

berol25 starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 02:13AM
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thank you jambase for always being on top of the good stuff. great resource. next best thing to being there.

phunkygemini starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 05:44AM
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phunkygemini

Excellent story!!!! I am tickled pink to read a story on Les. I'm with you bnaylor--Gabby doesn't receive the credit she deserves. She rocks and I wish Les and Gabby would come to Asheville or Knoxville. Les is the best!!

Dr. E-Rock Fri 8/11/2006 08:28AM
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les is the modern musical renaissance man. saw him most recently at all good. les then ween...so much madness, and all in one afternoon.

NickBoeka starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 08:49AM
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NickBoeka

Excellent article Dennis! Very concise and informative. I give it the big 5 stars! Les has been an awesome addition to the scene, bringing the pain through the bass, so to speak. and Mike D, Skerik, they are all incredible musicians and performers. I love that they are having the best time on stage, each time. Mike D always looks like he's about to explode, and having seen a lot of Critters Buggin and Hairy Apes BMX shows, i can see why. For those smaller shows, he typically ended each performance by destroying their keyboardist rig....talk about heartbreak!

nevertheless, thank you Les for creating music from the planet X, and constantly pushing the boundaries of jam! your new twist on acid jazz meets punk meets attitude is addictive.

nfenne starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 08:56AM
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nfenne

Les is the man. I see him as being a Miles Davis for a new generation.

Sj42286 Fri 8/11/2006 08:58AM
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Sj42286

les claypool the first renaissance man of the 2000’s. I think the world would be horribly normal with out this mad man. kudos on the great interview/article

Jam starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 09:04AM
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Electric Apricot rocks! I saw them at High Sierra and had an afipany about why I love Jam rock. Actually, I can't remember what it was other than I remember having it, cause I hadn't slept in 4 days. Also, What Talent: playing the tabla and piano at the same time! LapDog could take on the Duo in a head to head JAM OFF! But he's just one GUY!
See you at the Late night Mr. Claypool.

The Glick starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 09:20AM
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The Glick

great article, great job Dennis.

MangoNutbag Fri 8/11/2006 09:42AM
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MangoNutbag

"Primus hasn't released a new album since 1999's Antipop"

The original Primus line up released "Animals should not try and act like People" in 2003.

Jets19rule Fri 8/11/2006 09:45AM
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Jets19rule

no one fronts on claypool

keenan41 starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 09:51AM
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keenan41

Les is one insane bass player. Luckily I've been a Primus throughout their whole career, so I've been hooked on anything that he puts out. One creative bastard...Primus sucks

vdubber starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 10:12AM
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great article, Thank You. Without Les Claypool life would suck. Claypool '08!

toestothenose starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 10:26AM
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toestothenose

Cook - Love the insight into les Claypool's zany genius. Your word-surgery is worthy of a claypool nickname.

I thought his All Good set and inparticular his ode to his wife - Iowan Girl was some of the best Les I've ever heard. I'm in agreement w/ bnaylor about Gabby. She has really added a nice touch to the Fancy Band.

On a related side note -

I F'in LOVE ROBOT CHICKEN!!!!!!! If you haven't watched it go pick up season one on DVD.

OysterDead starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 11:10AM
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OysterDead

Riding the Moe. tour in 2002 when the Frog Brigade opened each night was simply a treat...

Claypool has given me the sensation to breathe and funk a entirely different way!!!


Claypool = Art

KudzuHug starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 11:41AM
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KudzuHug

cool pic tanner.
this story was well constructed and gives yet another glimpse into the dark depths of dr. claypool. i saw him at allgood this year (wow) and last, he is the man.

Duncan905 starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 02:36PM
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Duncan905

Fine read, appreciate the lack of Q&A format.

snappy Fri 8/11/2006 03:52PM
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snappy

Really glad folks are diggin' this one. I so enjoyed talking with Les. I also wrote a cover story on Les for the next issue of Honest Tune that's quite different. Should be out in September I think. Thanks so much for reading my stuff. It's always a happy surprise every time that there are folks at the other end of this conversation...

In the meantime, here's a little bonus Claypool I found in my notes.

On Oysterhead:

"They’re such great guys to hang with. I haven’t really been thinking about (Bonnaroo). I’ve just been looking forward to hanging out with Stewart and Trey again. I talk to them both somewhat regularly, more so with Stewart – in fact, I talked him into putting his film into Sundance. They’re just great guys. When the three of us get together - actually the four of us since there’s Brad Sands, who’s worked with Trey for years – get around the dinner table there’s some pretty incredible dialog. I look forward to that more than anything. To me, the playing is the sidebar. When we play we might rock or we might fall flat on our faces."

On the frequently told tale of Les auditioning for Metallica after Cliff Burton's untimely death:

"People grasp onto what they can identify with. Of everything I’ve done, the biggest broadstroke thing is Metallica. It’s like when I saw Tom Waits on Arsenio Hall one night. I almost threw something at the screen. The first thing Arsenio said to Tom Waits was, ‘So, what’s it like working with Keith Richards?’ It was obvious Arsenio Hall had no idea who he was talking to. He looked at the fax sheet and what popped up for him was Keith Richards (who had played on a few cuts on Waits' Raindogs album). So, that’s my Metallica thing. If I was talking to Relix and I hadn’t done anything but Oysterhead they would have asked me about hanging out with Trey. It just depends on which choir you’re talking to."

YodaG starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 04:14PM
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YodaG

D. Cook does it again. F@#kin' Great job!!!

tresorejas starstarstarstarstar Fri 8/11/2006 06:06PM
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"I really like seeing people dance as close to the edge as possible. And trip a little bit, fall, and grab themselves. Sometimes they fall off, and that's just the way it is. At least I know they're human. We're living in an age where everything is so packaged and canned."
- Les Claypool

This is what's missing more everytime I head to a show these days, people dancing, more talking and standing out there than butt moving experiences to make you remember that the world is getting more "packaged and canned". Thanks Les, we can always count on you to speak your mind, more people need to learn that trait. Thank you Dr. Cook an getting a great article out.

fattsjulius Fri 8/11/2006 06:12PM
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fattsjulius

PRIMUS SUCKS!!! LES CLAYPOOL FOR PRESIDENT!

Patjcostell starstarstarstarstar Sat 8/12/2006 12:56PM
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Mr. Cook does it again, building a dense stew that reflects the fine concoction of fruits and vegetable for your head that is Les Claypool. Saw him at the Roo this year at all 3 shows excellent as always. And yes Robot Chicken is the shit, at least that’s what shows up in my pants afterwards.

anitrak starstarstarstar Sat 8/12/2006 02:40PM
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anitrak

Good article. I like Claypool, that is all.

lovejahlive Mon 8/14/2006 07:35AM
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lovejahlive

Do you think he'll ever learn to play that thing???Primus sucks!!!
Smitty from "Rat Sound" called Rob Pugh in about '94 and asked if we wanted to come down to STL and kick it with him backstage at a show that featured Rollins Band,Helmut,and some shitty band that were calling themselves Sausage.
I was hanging out in the alley behind the American Theater smoking a huge phatty of some Hawaiian after the Sausage set and Claypool and company walked out.I offered them a hit and those bastards walked off with my joint!!!If you are reading this Les I've decided to let you off easy,simply give it back to me now and I won't talk any more shit on you!!!
Also,did you guys know that Henry Rollins is only three feet tall?

Picardi starstarstarstarstar Tue 8/15/2006 09:03AM
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SOOOO FUUUUNKY!

Even Vernon the Company Man gets me rockin

tomspeed starstarstarstar Tue 8/15/2006 01:33PM
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tomspeed

Nice work, Dr. Cook. As usual.

All Loving Liberal White Guy Tue 8/15/2006 02:40PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

good article but was does this writer have a docterate in ?

adamlangolf starstarstarstar Wed 8/16/2006 09:47AM
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"every once in awhile you'll meet someone that just lets you down" This applies to Skerik in my case. I have met alot of nice musicians at Festivals, thier shows and shows I perform at with them. I bring my CD's to pass out. I first met Skerik at Garage A Trois in Chicago... I told him how much I loved Tuatara and that I thought it was some of the coolest stuff I'd heard and he was looking past me the whole time we talked ...all one word short answers....but then I went to see Les & Fancy band w/ The Duo at The Vogue in Indianapolis, IN. I was able to give a CD to Marco Benevento for the 2nd time and he and Joe were nice as usual. As I was chilling outside during setbreak I saw Skerik and slowly approached. As I made eye contact i said hey skerik..can I give you a CD... HE JUST GRUMBLED SOMETHING AT ME ..WAIVED ME OFF RUDELY AND JUMPED RIGHT BACK ON THE BUS.. before then I loved his music. Now I can not watch that band without thinking that Skerik is an ego maniac. Hopefully someday I run into him through my music and he is a little more respectful. I enjoyed this article and have met Les Claypool once before and he was extremely nice. NO ROOM FOR ATTITUDES IN THIS SCENE.

matt3 starstarstarstarstar Thu 8/17/2006 01:03AM
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