J.J. CALE: AIN'T NO CHANGE IN ME

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By Kayceman

Ain't no change in the weather, ain't no change in me
-From "Call Me the Breeze"


J.J. Cale
It's quite possible that J.J. Cale's first song from his first record, "Call Me The Breeze," is still the one that best describes him. Speaking with Cale thirty-five years after he recorded "Call Me The Breeze" for his 1971 debut, Naturally, you get the sense that time (and money) really haven't affected John Cale all that much. He's "just a regular guy" who digs music, loves engineering music, and lives a simple existence. "I go into town, buy groceries, do the laundry. I'm just a regular senior citizen," says the 67 year-old Cale. "I lived in trailers and stuff 'cause I was always busy, but now I have three acres down here. Well I try to keep all that up, and I don't hire nobody. I don't hire any servants or none of that; I do all my own yard work and house work."

Perhaps one of the few things that really have changed for Cale is the fact that he can now afford a few acres. J.J. Cale's climb from humble roots to the top of the songwriting mountain followed a very unique, un-conventional path, and it wasn't until his thirties that he began to get noticed. "The difference in me, the reason that [quitting music] didn't happen to me, I really had a gypsy-lifestyle mentality," explains Cale. "It didn't matter to me whether I had any money or not. I knew I could just get out a guitar and sit on the corner and play, whereas a lot of musicians wanted something more from life; they wanted a new car or a new house or whatever. I never wanted anything material; I was very satisfied sitting around noodling on the guitar, so I didn't really get caught up in that syndrome of, 'I'm 30 years old, I got a wife and kids, and I need to quit this music and get a day job.' That happens to most, but I had no desire to even do that. I was like, 'I can live in a trailer man,' and I didn't want a day job."


J.J. Cale
And that's pretty much what Cale did - lived in a trailer and noodled on the guitar. He took a shot in Los Angeles but returned home to Tulsa, Oklahoma not too long after. He struggled financially and took an extreme, laissez- faire attitude towards his career; he was always one-day-at-a-time. Ironically enough, it was Cale's lack of ambition that allowed him the time he needed to get his break. Where most even relatively ambitious human beings (musicians or otherwise) would have given in to pursue a more promising life, Cale had no interest. He was content to just play some guitar, mix a few records, and get by. But let's be clear by what we mean when we say "play some guitar," or as he puts it, "noodle on the guitar." Another thing that hasn't changed with J.J. Cale is his modesty. Noodling on the guitar for Cale has accounted for some of the best and most lasting songs from the past fifty years. Hits like "Call Me The Breeze" (made famous by Lynyrd Skynyrd), "Cocaine" (Clapton), "After Midnight" (Clapton), and lesser-known gems like "Travelin' Light," "Cajun Moon," "I'm A Gypsy Man," "Money Talks," "Lies," "Ride Me High," and plenty more all come from the J.J. Cale canon. And although his rate of production has slowed, he's still turning out quality songs. For evidence, look no further than 2004's To Tulsa and Back. In addition to financial success, if anything else has in fact changed it may be Cale's acceptance of the press, fans, and all the little things that go into being part of The Music World. It's this slight shift away from J.J. Cale "the recluse" that brings us the first DVD of his career, To Tulsa and Back - On Tour with J.J. Cale (released on DVD June 13th via Time Life).


Clapton & Cale at Crossroads by Johnny A.
Recorded over four days at the end of his 2004 summer tour (his last tour), the DVD is an intimate look into the notoriously reclusive J.J. Cale. Not only do we get live concert footage, but we get to travel on Cale's tour bus. We sit in on interviews with Cale, his sister, and his band mates, and we receive extensive commentary by Eric Clapton. It was actually Clapton's 2004 Crossroads Festival that spawned Cale's entire tour. Honored by Clapton's invitation and wanting to sound his best, Cale decided he better play some shows to warm up. And heck, if you're gonna go out on the road, you might as well stretch it a little and do a few more gigs.

When asked why he finally decided to let a camera crew into his intimate, private space, Cale sorta laughed and said, "I thought they were just gonna do a little promo, five-minute kind of a thing. When you're on tour, you're jacked up and it's different than when you're home. And I didn't know that's what it was they were doing. I kinda did, but when I'm on tour I have so many other things going on and this was just sort of a side-project kinda thing, and I didn't know it was gonna turn into what it turned out to be."


J.J. Cale
J.J. Cale has always eluded the spotlight. He's made a point of lurking in the shadows and constantly deflecting attention towards others. "I never was real crazy about doing the live thing," says Cale. "I was originally a guitar player and played live all my life, but the J.J. Cale thing, which is a singer-songwriter thing, mainly a songwriter is really what I do for a living, I was very reluctant. That's why they hung the 'recluse' thing on me, 'cause when Eric Clapton and Lynyrd Skynyrd started cutting some of my songs back in the 70s, they went, 'Oh you need to go out and promote yourself,' and I was very uncomfortable with that because I've always been a sideman, background man, engineering kinda technical nerd. So I did the... the minimum, I'll put it that way, of promoting whatever album it was I had out. As the years rolled by, I got a little more used to, 'Okay, you gotta get out and perform.' I was always a guitar player in the band, so the thing [spotlight] was never on me, and now I'm a little more of a 'Well, here I am folks' kind of a guy now. But 20, 30 years ago, I was very reluctant to actually get out and be the patsy. I'm a little more used to it now, or maybe as the years went by I just accepted the fact that I'm semi- well known and that's kinda the way it goes."

A highlight of the To Tulsa and Back - On Tour with J.J. Cale DVD is the back-and-forth commentary of Clapton on Cale and Cale on Clapton. While Cale credits Clapton as "the reason I no longer have to work" (because of the huge sums of money he's made through Clapton's covers of "Cocaine" and "After Midnight"), Clapton credits Cale for "giving him" some of his most successful songs. "I'm very grateful to J.J.," says Clapton. "He's been an incredible inspiration to me."

 
I was never writing to sell my own records, I was writing to get someone like Eric Clapton to cut it.

-J.J. Cale

 

If you want to hang out, you've got to take her out, cocaine
If you want to get down, get down on the ground, cocaine

Watching the DVD as Clapton dissects the genius of Cale's super-hit, "Cocaine," he contemplates the lyrics and tries to determine if the song is slightly negative in connotation or slightly positive or maybe totally ambivalent. When I ask Cale to explain the mindset he was in when he wrote the classic track, he says, "I never was a cocaine user. A lot of my friends were, of course all my friends were musicians. I was just trying to write something. It was a subject matter, and when you're a songwriter, number one before you write the hook or the lyrics or anything you go, 'What the hell is the song about?' So I went, well nobody has written anything about cocaine. And then I tried to be not positive or negative about it either way. I think Clapton was pretty much right in detecting some negativity; I put some lines in. 'Well if you take cocaine, you better watch out.' And there were also some lines in there like 'Well here's cocaine, you can have some fun with that.' And that's sorta the way drugs are."


J.J. Cale
But it wasn't really the words that made "Cocaine" such a hit; it was the sound. "'Cocaine' really came out better than I expected," says Cale. "It wasn't that it was that good; it sounded different." It sounded different to Clapton and to everyone else and that's why Cale got rich off it. But it wasn't that "Cocaine" was different, Cale was different. He had that "laid-back sound," that "Tulsa sound." "That's the engineering. That's because I'm mixing them [albums, songs] myself," says Cale. "I'm mainly known as a songwriter, then probably a guitar player, and then probably a singer in that order. But basically what I've done - everybody's an engineer now with the modern Pro Tools and stuff - I've been doing that stuff all my life. I used to make my living as an engineer, so what I do is I mix most of my own records. Well, if you mix your own records, you can take all the mistakes out. So that's always been my favorite art form, is actually the recording process. And what we do is we make basic tracks and then go in and fix the thing and overdub. Everybody's doing that now. Back 30, 40 years ago, very few were doing it. So that's what they're talking about [when they talk about the 'Cale Sound']. It's no 'secret sauce' or nothing. I had a studio back in the days when people didn't have studios; you had to go rent Capitol or whatever. I took all my songwriting money, and the first thing I bought was a recorder and boards and that kinda stuff."


J.J. Cale
In classic Cale fashion, he refuses to see just how great his versions of his songs are. "I'm basically a songwriter. I was never writing to sell my own records, I was writing to get someone like Eric Clapton to cut it," says Cale. Instead of crediting whatever it is inside his head, he's much quicker to give praise to someone else, or to comment on the details of how he engineered the songs into sounding a certain way. And while that's no doubt true, all of his material is also, at its very core, imbued with a distinct, understated vocal delivery and a subtle, "laid- back" guitar style. It's been said that perhaps his unique sound is linked to growing up in Tulsa, Oklahoma. "Things were more regional in those days when I was starting out," remembers Cale. "You were more influenced by the local radio station. Now everything's the same. Everybody gets the same information by the TV, the Internet or whatever. Back in those days, it was still a little regional. Kansas City was a jazz city - it's not too far from Tulsa, about a hundred, two-hundred miles. Oklahoma City and the western part of the United States is all country, and there was a lot of blues influences coming up from the Southeast. I don't know if I woulda sounded different or wrote different songs if I had been from Philadelphia, so I don't know if the location I grew up in influenced the way I play, but there might be something to that. It is the middle of the country; it's a good theory." Call it "Tulsa," call it "laid-back," call it "Rock & Roll," "Americana," "Alt-Country" and everything else, but be sure to remember that whatever we call it, it is most certainly a defining pillar of American Music.

So what's next for Cale? "I'm actually considering myself retired. I'll do something, I'm not totally through. But like I said, I'm 67 now and I'm trying to enjoy life, and music is a lot of work - making records, writing songs, going on tour. I'm not real crazy about any of that. I'm just trying to stay alive." 67 or 27, sure sounds like the same old J.J. Cale - not much planned, not much desire to make a plan. "I'll tell you what I really enjoy. I buy guitars and modify them - I love to do that. I can afford really nice guitars and then I'll put a different pick-up in 'em. And I do a lot of electronics. And sometimes I'll just sit around and noodle and watch the day." Ain't no change in the weather, ain't no change in J.J. Cale.

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mbridges starstarstarstarstar Mon 7/10/2006 12:55PM
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SWEET!

mc Levi Mon 7/10/2006 01:12PM
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mc Levi

It's kind of funny. Reading that Cale would rather have his songs covered by other people than get famous playing them himself. It kind of makes sense because he's always been a "recluse" and he got wealthy enough to be able to live off Clapton's covers. On the other hand, I was always of the opinion that Clapton ruined After Midnight and Cocaine. It's like he chewed them up swallowed them and puked them back out in a bland style that betrays Cales originals. When I first heard of Cale and heard his music, I kind of lost respect for Clapton's solo work and thought of him as a "rip off artist." It's just interesting reading that Cale doesn't mind that others could take his songs and kind of water them down and make them something less than the original. Maybe I have an inner hatred of EC, I don't know, but I just think that Cales versions of those two songs "fit" better with the lyrics. As for other covers (Skynyrd's "Breeze" or Panic's "Travellin' Light"), they just don't bother me. Can't explain it, but I still think EC is a ripper.

Rinosquad starstarstarstarstar Mon 7/10/2006 01:40PM
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Kayce you rock brother:

The beginning of that story gave me chills. It was a nice change to the end of my work day. JJ really embodies the humble nature of his music. He is a hell of an American, and in a world of pretentious money driven musicians it is refreshing to see a jambase writeup on a man who is so quick to give credit to others. His modesty should be an example to other aspiring artists. Sometimes its "the man" that makes ya and sometimes its the music.

Keep truckin' John. Nice work Kayce

J. Marino

pellis starstarstarstarstar Mon 7/10/2006 02:26PM
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mpmichalewich - Clapton is a ripper? Great article Kaceyman - not to make this a chat board but Eric Clapton is one of hell of a musician and to say he ripps people off is insane - you are lucky to have witnessed such a musician - Clapton is the man period ond of story.

treetops78 starstarstarstarstar Mon 7/10/2006 02:52PM
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treetops78

Excellent work my brother. I zipped through that in about two minutes and am salivating for more. For all you fans and first timers for J.J. Cale, go out and get "J.J. Cale-Live" and "To Tulsa and Back." They will make you feel good to be alive everytime you listen to them...

Congrats Kayceman!

Jonesy

nfenne starstarstarstarstar Tue 7/11/2006 08:20AM
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nfenne

Incredible story! Not being very familiar with Cale's music other than the songs Clapton covered I'm now very eager to check out his catalogue.

On another note, all the best musicians can be considered rip off artists. A musician's taste is as important as their talent. If songs weren't reinterpreted by other musicians then some of the best songs in history could have been overlooked.

bigrivermusic starstarstarstarstar Tue 7/11/2006 09:41AM
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Great article, Kayce!! I've been diggin' JJ Cale for decades, glad to see him getting props in the jam world. Just check out the instrumental, "Durango" off of his 2-CD Anthology "Anyway the Wind Blows". Totally spaced-out guitar line!! JJ also penned the one of the dirtiest lyrics ever: "I wish I was your you underware hangin 'round your waist / Everytime you'd shake that thing I'd get a little taste" As for the Clapton argument, no doubt covering Cale's songs helped invigorate his career in the 70's. It is cool of EC to give back to one of his huge influences. Check out both of them jamming on Clapton's Crossroads concert DVD (having EC play RHYTHM guitar in your band demands respect, fo' sho'!!) Keep up the good work jambase.com!

DogBreath starstarstarstarstar Tue 7/11/2006 10:30AM
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DogBreath

Brilliant story Kayce, it needed to be told. When is Jambase going to be published as a magazine(Relix)?

JJ Cale is one of my all time favorite songwriter/singers. His style invokes a meaningful expression that penetrates the core of humanity . Is there an artist today that can demonstrate such passion, brilliance, modesty, and truth..?..maybe, but none will be like in the way that JJ has done and continues to do.... Peace....

sammstra starstarstarstarstar Tue 7/11/2006 09:09PM
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So glad I just found this site. Nice to read such a great article on my favorite songwriter.

julievanam Tue 7/11/2006 11:01PM
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JJ Cale played one of the very first (or was it the first) High Sierra Music Festivals.

Check this out from a Glide Magazine article last year: "At the last minute…I think it was in 1994. The headlining band for the last slot didn’t show up, so Roy asked Jambay and friends to put together a huge jam. We had JJ Cale, Artis the spoonman, and members of multiple other bands join us. In some ways it was one of those formative moments for the Everyone Orchestra in that the free jam really was the highlight of the weekend for me.” - Matt Butler reminiscing about one of his favorite on stage moments

Need I say more?

BrotherCal starstarstarstarstar Sun 7/16/2006 06:23AM
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BrotherCal

Right on. Thanks for the amazing story on one of America's greatest, but often forgotten, songwriters. His records are a mainstay of my musical diet. That shit's straight up protein...

samsonikoiko starstarstarstarstar Fri 7/21/2006 09:38PM
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What a delighttful article for such a great unknown singer song writer. I am not real sure when I first realized who Cale was but I do know what "Call me the breeze" has been ringing in my ears since the first time I saw Skynard back in 1983. I am not sure why such a ripping on EC, he is only one of a few that has covered JJ Cale tunes for many years, silly kids. AS a matter of fact watch that "Crossroads" festival of Clapton's and you too will realize what JJ thinks of EC. If you do not have the chance to see it JJ mentions and I do quote "I knew I was a singer song writer when EC started covering my songs". JJ is also the only musician that sits in for several tunes rather than only a single tune. I feel as if the relationship between these to greats is most likely as thick as blood! Besides did EC not make JJ a ton of cash doing so, lol unlike some modern day bands that simply cover the tunes live and not cut JJ any royalties!! Travel light my friends, lol.

hurricane23 starstarstarstarstar Sun 7/23/2006 03:48PM
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hurricane23

After listening to alot of JJ for a while I became convinced of just how widespread his influence is. Listen to his delivery and Trey's early southern style of play comes immediately to mind. The jams in Call me the Breeze are very similar to those in Possum.

hottubtom starstarstarstarstar Mon 7/24/2006 10:44AM
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About time. JJ Cale is one of the most underrated musical gifts our ears have been ever been blessed.

People that want to see the glam and blam of music can check out someone else.

Folks that want to hear real music and listen to a real soul play, JJ's your man. No one smoother, no one truer.

dcpruyn starstarstarstarstar Sun 8/6/2006 07:28PM
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dcpruyn

Inspirational story for the musicians that matter. Those who ultimately play for themselves and not material wealth. Instead-a wealth of another Kind. Cale's soul is richer than most ! Connoisseurs should take note and samples stuff from his discography.

jambala starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/7/2009 12:26PM
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jambala

Just saw JJ at bimbo's in San Francisco and let me tell you, he was incredible! He has some of the best tone and the tastiest licks I have ever heard!