Widespread Panic: Still Rolling Strong

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By: Tim Dwenger

Widespread Panic
For nearly 25 years Widespread Panic has redefined Southern rock. Built on classic songs and inspired musicianship, it's always been more than just the music; it's the relationship the band has cultivated with their fans. There's a whole generation of people who have had the privilege of growing up following this musical force with obsession. A grinding juggernaut of gritty, testosterone fueled jam rock; Panic has clawed their way up through the small dive bars and clubs of the Southeast to become one of the most successful touring bands in the country, routinely filling arenas and amphitheaters with throngs of rabid fans. The journey has not been without setbacks, defeats and heartbreaking losses, but the experience as a whole, "the rollercoaster," as percussionist Sunny Ortiz calls it, has been an amazing ride that looks like it will continue for years to come.

Ortiz took some time out to speak with JamBase during a busy week where he found his band receiving the inaugural Road Warrior Award at Billboard magazine's annual Touring Conference and turning back the clock, in a manner of speaking, when they took the stage at the intimate, 1,000 person capacity Irving Plaza in New York City.

JamBase: I understand you headlined a benefit for The Bill Graham Memorial Foundation at Irving Plaza in New York City this week. Can you tell me about that night?

Sunny Ortiz: It had been probably ten or twelve years since the last time I saw David Graham, who is one of Bill's sons, so that was a real treat. And the other treat was, of course, to be able to perform at Irving Plaza again [see pics from that night here]. It is always fun for us to go to "The City," but this was a very special occasion for us and even though it was in the middle of our break we thought, as a unit, that it would be a shame for us to refuse such a gracious invitation. We had a great time, and it is kinda nice to go back and play a little bitty intimate venue like that, but it went too quick for me.

JamBase: I know tickets were snatched up immediately. What was the energy like in there?

Sunny Ortiz: Being in the city is such an amazing time for us and the energy level was incredible because everybody is so jam-packed in there and you can actually see people. It was just raging. It was wild and ridiculous, which it should be in New York City. I understand that the tickets went pretty fast and that is the unfortunate part about it. I guess there are some other venues that they could have chosen but I believe that Irving Plaza is now called "The Fillmore" and since we haven't played at the original Fillmore in San Francisco it was an honor for us to be in that venue knowing all the traditions that Bill Graham bestowed upon The Fillmore West in San Francisco.

Did you ever get a chance to meet Bill Graham?

Sunny by Jay Blakesberg :: 11.19.08 :: Irving Plaza
I first met Bill in Telluride in 1991 when we were playing a festival there; I can't remember the name of the festival but it was a multi-day event and I know that on our day The Allman Brothers were playing. Our self-titled album had just come out and we were out touring, and we got an offer to come up and do Telluride. Bill Graham was there and, of course, introduced us. Somewhere in our archives there is a picture of Bill holding our CD backstage at that show, hugging it almost. He looks so serene, so surreal. I am trying to get a copy of it for myself. It is quite a unique and special picture.

Bill was very quiet but very firm when he spoke. He obviously knew what he was talking about and you just wanted to milk him for all of the knowledge and the stories that he had, but there were just so many. He was just constantly, constantly on the go. It was so sad when we heard about his passing, but it is just one of those things, life goes on, life goes on.

Switching gears a bit, I've got to ask you about New Year's Eve. After ringing in the New Year in Georgia for your whole career as a band what made you decide to break that tradition and take the party to Denver this year?

We just thought it was time that we did something special for the people of Colorado. Colorado has always been our second home because that is pretty much where we cut our teeth as a touring band. We toured there extensively in the mid-80s and got a lot of help from Jerry Joseph and Little Women. They were the ones that got us out there. I remember that our first show in Colorado was supporting them in Steamboat at The Inferno, and then we did a host of other gigs with them in that run. I think it lasted almost a month. We hit probably every ski resort known to mankind that first time out there.

A lot of things obviously change in the world of Widespread Panic and we thought this year would the perfect time to switch it up. We've got a great support act and that makes it even more special and we are all very excited.

That support act you mention is Yonder Mountain String Band, and I was wondering how you decided to bring them on board for the run?

Sunny & Schools by Casey Flanigan
They have a great following in Colorado and we thought it was a great package and thought that the fans would really like it. That's what makes it exciting for us, when the fans get excited. We extended an invitation for Yonder to join us and they were so gracious to accept. I am excited because they are such great players and there is great potential for us to do something together, some intermingling onstage perhaps.

There are some rumors going around that after the shows in Denver the band will be taking some time off. Will there be another hiatus for Panic in 2009?

I have heard through our office, because I never read the chatboards, that a lot of people think that we are taking the year off next year. We are not. So, we've got to put that little fire out. We are definitely coming out and working and while I can't tell you the exact dates that we'll have for Red Rocks, I can guarantee that we will be there during the summer of 2009.

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I have heard through our office, because I never read the chatboards, that a lot of people think that we are taking the year off next year. We are not. So, we've got to put that little fire out. We are definitely coming out and working and while I can't tell you the exact dates that we'll have for Red Rocks, I can guarantee that we will be there during the summer of 2009.

-Sunny Ortiz

 
Photo by Jackie Jasper

That's good to hear because a lot of people have been saying that there will be no tour until the fall.

JB :: 10.31.08 by Ian Rawn
I know where you are coming from. I am even getting it from my kids. My oldest is 14 and my youngest is 10 and they are going, "Dad where are we going next year?" and I'm going, "What do you mean?" And they said, "Well, we heard that you guys are taking the whole year off." When Mikey passed away, bless his heart, we took 2004 off but they were a little bit younger. So, while they knew that he had passed away they didn't realize that it meant that I was going to be home for the whole year.

We will be there and we will be working in 2009.

Maybe a little less touring, but not a hiatus?

Not a hiatus. "A little less?" I don't know about "a little less." To us there is no "a little less." To me, it's not work. To me, it is socializing, its conversation, its anything but work and anything but touring. It is like being in a traveling minstrel show, I guess, maybe a circus. It is a way of life for us. It may sound corny but it really is. When we were growing up as young kids, teenagers, in the back of our minds we always wanted to be full time musicians and probably never thought we could sustain ourselves doing this. When I met the boys in '86 they were attending UGA and on their way to being golf pros, chemistry majors, business majors and then something happened that put everything on hold.

Our motto as a band has always been that we are willing to go to the edge and then think about it, and then actually dive off the edge and see what happens. A lot of people say, "They just don't do it anymore," and I kinda think that they just don't see that we are doing it and they need to step aside and let someone else that gets it get it and pass it back to them.

Some people have said that there seems to be a new life in the band lately, and I was wondering if that comes from having Jimmy Herring in the band? What is it like to have him as a full time member?

Jimmy Herring is an angel that we knew about back in the '80s. We connected with him when he was in Aquarium Rescue Unit. He is a virtuoso and a very studious player. He gives 110-percent every day, not only every night but everyday, too. He's a sweetheart of a guy; we are almost derelicts compared to him. He's been around the block a couple of times and when things were looking gloomy for us he was the one so nice to us and offered his assistance, but he was committed to Phil & Friends and The Dead and we had to look at other alternatives. When the second calling came he was available.

Is there a new Panic album coming any time soon?

Domingo "Sunny" Ortiz by Susan J. Weiand
The writing in the band has just kept getting better and we have some good new material that we haven't even pulled out yet. We have so much material that we are going to have to start using it. So, that's just a good problem to have. It has gotten to the point now where we are asking, "Where do we want to go record? Where do we want to go do this next project?" That seems to be the thing that is holding us back. We want to record, but we also realize that we need to see what happens. We aren't in any rush. We feel that we can do a lot of woodshedding in the next six months and come up with some hot stuff and maybe take it on the road and experiment with it like we've always done - just throw it out there and see if we get any bites from anybody who wants to sustain us, wants to invest or wants to make good use of it as a new product.

Anything we do as Widespread Panic is with everyone's input. There are obviously thousands of studios around Athens but who knows, we might do something in Nashville, we might do something in Atlanta. There are lots of options for us to dabble in, and it is just a matter of where everyone feels comfortable. That's the big name game right now, the comfort level. When we all agree that we are ready the ball starts rolling. We start sending out feelers for producers, studios and then we need to block out the time. If all that fits together then we are ready. There are just so many things involved. Who knows what form this monster is going to take.

So, through all of this, it's been more than 20 years that you've been playing together; what keeps you going?

Some say 25 [years]! Well, I guess when we reach 2010 it'll be 25 years. The music business is one big rollercoaster ride, and we've learned that through a lot of good times and a lot of bad times. The thing that keeps us bonded together and our feet on the ground is knowing there's a lot of folks that enjoy, love and really care about Widespread Panic. It's that give and take, that communication, that excitement that we've always gotten from our fans that just keeps us going on and on. Our way of giving back to these folks is giving that piece of music, which is our life. That energy is still there, that drive, that magic. Whatever you want to call it, it is still real strong. We love what we do and we are going to keep on doing it probably for a pretty good while now.

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jonthephisherman starstar Thu 12/11/2008 06:04PM
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YESSS PANIC DEAD PHISH 2009 will ROCK!

Mr. Brojangles starstarstarstarstar Thu 12/11/2008 06:10PM
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Deadphish Panic Brothers Band 2009. Happy New Year! Cool interview.

Dgold starstarstarstarstar Thu 12/11/2008 06:40PM
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Dgold

Thanks Jambase, and Sunny. --DGold from Fayetteville ARK

Flat5 starstarstarstarstar Thu 12/11/2008 08:27PM
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Flat5

Damn its on in 09! great interview

malkin99 Thu 12/11/2008 08:39PM
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RED ROCKS!! love my state

bubbarock starstarstarstarstar Thu 12/11/2008 08:56PM
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bubbarock

Great to hear the band is not "taking a year off". I first read/heard that on a Jambase comments, actually.

Telluride 1991...That was the "Bill Graham's Mid-Summer Music Festival...in July. I was there...high on acid for 3 days, camping in the town park in my VW van with friends...some of the line-up included Sara Hickman,Jerry Joseph with Little Women,Los Lobos,Jackson Browne,Joe Cocker,Blues Traveler, WSP,Asleep at the Wheel,Allmann Bro's...Allmann Bros playing Mountain Jam/Jessica with a rainbow above town with Bill Graham on the side of the stage looking at his watch cause the Bro's had gone past the town ordinance curfew jamming away...Joe Cocker singing in a rainstorm when suddenly he lost sound on his mic, but his band was still playing (pretty funny seeing joe cocker singing with no sound)...WSP and Blues Traveler playing late night after-parties in the Sheraton Opera House for 2 nights, swapping being the opener band each night...with special guests each night-Warren Haynes,Big Head Todd,Los Lobos...wow, that was one of the best weekends of my life. The second time I had ever seen WSP (first time was in the Mangy Moose, in my hometown, Jackson Hole the summer before). Good to hear there will be more shows!

Chaloupka starstarstarstarstar Thu 12/11/2008 11:02PM
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Chaloupka

Bad MOFOs!

TravlynnJoe Fri 12/12/2008 04:40AM
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MilesGone starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 05:46AM
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MilesGone

wonderful interview.

Trav Joe, ur crazy, I liked GMAC just fine, but thats not gonna happen.

keep it coming WSP. just keep it coming.

My god, I loved hearing Proud Mary on Halloween!!!!!!

mesaxi star Fri 12/12/2008 06:06AM
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studter starstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 06:33AM
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Still saying nothing about what Herring "might" do this summer...

crazynate Fri 12/12/2008 06:37AM
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crazynate

Best news today no break from the boys! And even better its on at Red Rocks once again this summer!!! Fuck Yeah!!!

Brooklynn starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 07:30AM
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Brooklynn

i heart panic!!! see you in a few weeks boys :)

barstoolrodeo4 Fri 12/12/2008 07:45AM
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Hell yeah! Jambase get your stories straight, you're the whole reason we were all freaking out in the first place.

And don't worry about what Jimmy "might" do this summer, while perhaps some solo shows are in store, Jimmy confirms in this interview he is NOT part of the Dead/Phil & Friends/ or whatever else GD concoction could come about.

http://www.swampland.com/articles/view/title:the_jimmy_herring_interview

cUB_nAsTY starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 07:58AM
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cUB_nAsTY

^its good to know Jimmy is gonna be hanging with Panic this Summer, but i suspect a surprise jam or two this summer

delaneyira starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 08:11AM
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no doubt!! Whats going to be the supreme fest this year? I would like to see a single festival with a bill that goes... Phish-panic-phil-zappa-allman bros-umphreys-dead-mule-bisco-yonder-dumpstahfunk-moe.-ratdog-MSMW-levon helm-derek trucks soul stew It would also be sick to see some of the old masters getting mixed up in the festival scene. How sick would it be to see david gilmour at a festival!! Anyone see his DVD at royal albert hall? I love pink floyd alot. However i must admit that the execution of floyd by david gilmours band definetly blows away any live recording i have ever heard of old floyd. Just my opinion. How about clapton. Imagine the sick sitins he could do with just about anyone. Another cream show at a festival would tear the roof off, even outside :p. How about folks like john mcglaughlin or al di meola and return to forever. Id love to see some of that shit at a festival. If metallica and pearl jam can play bonnaroo, both are bands i love as well, i dont see why some of the geizahs like clapton or gilmour wouldnt fit in. Jeff beck would show the dirty hippies whos boss! Imagine jeff beck sitting in with umphreys. The creator and exhalted master of "sonic shapeshifting" jammin with the current kings of sonic shapeshifting. Would be legendary! Who wants to see dweezil zappa sitin with, uhhh, anyone! Fucking zappa plays zappa is probably the most well rehearsed and impressive show touring right now and i think dweezil would be a sick sitin with just about anyone touring these days. Have any of you guys checked out thier dvd? Fuckign raunchy from start to finish. Imagine brain damaged eggmen featuring david gilmour! Anyone here catch john paul jones sitting in with mule at bonnaroo 07? Wonder what that mofo is up to these days. Buddy guy is another one who rocks mofuckahs socks off. Im surprised that jimi hendrix tribute tour never played at the festivals. That probably would ahve been very well recieved. Steve vai's bitch ass should play some festivals. I saw him like a year ago and it was sick! He needs to play another tour with zappa, that first tour that he played on was dope!

A man can dream!!

moephishH2O starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 08:49AM
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moephishH2O

I'm ready for 2009. Phish, Dead, Panic ... Just like old times!

HoodooVoodoo starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 09:24AM
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alfinestone Fri 12/12/2008 09:53AM
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@delaneyira

hell yeah brother best post I've seen in a while, I'm with ya on all those bands man, stay positive and keep those vibes a'flowin!

TheJuice starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 10:27AM
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TheJuice

come stay a while in nashville and record something sonny. I know a great keyboard player up here. and Jimmy can kickoff his minisolo tour here too. w/ Jeff Sipe, the Burbridge brothers and d.trucks. and john joseph hermanheimer schmidt.

gmoo Fri 12/12/2008 10:54AM
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gmoo

Should be a good 2009 for music fans :)

PickinKind starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 01:32PM
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PickinKind

how bout that great vibe from ol sunny. these guys can make the worst time the best time, anytime! and delaneyira, i totally agree with every one of your comments...but i want whatever it is that you are on, must be good

HoodooVoodoo starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/12/2008 01:38PM
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HoodooVoodoo

delaneyira - I would only see the Brain Damaged Eggmen if Jon Gutwillig sang all of their songs because everyone knows his voice is way better than Gilmour's. I mean...that guy can fucking sing.

Barjazid Fri 12/12/2008 11:59PM
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Barjazid

I would just like to comment that I totally respect and admire panic for what they have done, not only for this scene but music in general. It's just not my cup of tea really. I've seen them many times, a few with George McConnell and a few more w/Jimmy. I much prefer the older stuff with Houser.

1st let me say that I totally understand that Jimmy is a phenomenal guitar player but something about his style that I don't think fits in with the DEAD. So I'd rather see someone else if THE DEAD do tour in '09 (been hearing that Jimmy was gonna play lead w/them.)

For me this news about WSP continuing their current thing is GOOD for a two-fold reason. The 1st is what I mentioned above about Jimmy and the dead.

The 2nd is that WSP is obviously a tremendous force of good in this scene so it would be sad to see them take a hiatus, even though I don't dig it particularly much myself. It's just something about Jimmy's constant shredding, I can hardly tell apart most jams, they sound very similar (to me)when he solo's from one song to the next. I prefer his solo and Aquarium rescue unit stuff.

But indeed, PHISH, WSP, and THE DEAD?!!? WOW what a year this could turn out to be!

Michael Knight Sat 12/13/2008 02:01PM
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DenverSpreadHead starstarstarstarstar Sun 12/14/2008 04:52PM
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DenverSpreadHead

Great News! Jimmy didn't revive Panic but he gave them new Energy. Thanks for choosing the great state of Colorado for NYE!!!

Coconut Phil starstarstarstarstar Mon 12/15/2008 07:23AM
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Coconut Phil

great news, I'll be looking for the tour dates to arrivve.

andyedds Mon 12/15/2008 08:06AM
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andyedds

Barjazid, well said. We need more open minded folks like you. WSP isn't for everyone (it wasn't for me at first either), but obviously they are still around and going strong, and that speaks for the devotion of their fan base.

I too find myself at times thinking Jimmy is way too far out in front of the jam, almost lapping the other bands members within the song. It seemed as if when he first joined, he was more in tune because he was still learning the songs, and had to really slow down and add is texture here and there. Sometimes less is more, and that is where Mikey excelled, he was able to add a layer to the texture, instead of the mind bending shredding solo. Jimmy, shreds ... I am happy he is in this band now. They have new life in them, and though it isn't the same (it never will be) ... it's definitely better.

Gmac was good for specific tunes, but a lot of the WSP catalouge did not fit his style. When I listen to older shows I am reminded more and more just how much a part of WSP's sound Mikey brought to the table.

Was he a master virtuoso? No. But I don't think there is another guitar player out there who could quite bend the strings like Mikey and the surely is no other guitarist that sounds like him. He was original and unique ... at least for me, that's what I admired the most about him ... and its the same reason I am into a lot of other stuff, because its different, its risky and it has the potential to flop, which also means it has the room to fly. be good.

shaka1 starstarstarstarstar Mon 12/15/2008 09:19AM
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Thanks Sunny for spreading some sunshine in my life. Panic hiatus would suck-even for one year. Panic will be droppen bombs on the Pepsi Center in about two weeks and I would hate for it to be the last for a while. Hey travelinjoe, lay off the brown acid bro-Gmac was a decent filler for a guitarist> we love what were Herring now

c00lmike Mon 12/15/2008 06:04PM
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c00lmike

The Dead are going to be touring with Warren Haynes and Barry Sless this summer. Sorry, no Jimmy this time around...

drumStark Tue 12/16/2008 08:00AM
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drumStark

Is that a rumor or is it official?

Rickymullet starstarstarstarstar Tue 12/16/2008 01:17PM
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It's official, WSP are playing with Disco Biscuit at some electronica wonderland disney thing in Central Park in May. Widespread is gonna bring the heat, then Disco is gonna bring the magical rock electROCK and the widespread are going to do a late night dj set , with John Bell on vocals, and blow minds remixes of songs like Fishwater, Southern Blues Rock and Let's Get The Show on The Road or something. Mind blowing songs. "Bring on the heat" type band.

nsafay Wed 12/17/2008 08:27AM
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rickymullett you're funny. I am so freakin happy to hear that we get some Panic all year round! 2009 is lookin good.

redhed starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/19/2008 04:48AM
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redhed

I've missed the "JB brings the heat" comments, keep 'em comin' rickymullet

makesensetome starstarstarstarstar Fri 12/19/2008 02:37PM
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great article love to hear that rumor squashed....drop jimmy and give us something new !!!!no disrespect ...just need somethin fresh

seancgard starstarstarstar Fri 12/19/2008 05:27PM
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I agree that Jimmy adds great energy to the band, but sometimes its too much. Thats why I'm pushing for the band to add Ann Marie Calhoun full time. Listen to recordings from this year, her violin really captures that lingering lead feeling and her counterpoint is sublime.

Rickymullet starstarstarstarstar Sat 12/20/2008 08:33AM
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I agree with every single comment. That's why I'm pushing for JB to conduct the band, not taking away from his incredible vocals, and direct them to turn on the heat up so high that the whole scene/world will know what they are capable of. This can be done with concentrated, focused tight songs and jams & we all know that WIDESPREAD PANIC will do it this summer for sure. It's being talked about on the website and it's all over the net. See you on tour, ricky

raymon39 star Sun 12/21/2008 12:50PM
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PickinKind Tue 12/23/2008 02:52PM
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PickinKind

raymon39 is one badass. easy there bud. if u really like grass then there is waaaay better grass out there than ymsb so shut the fuck up

raymon39 star Thu 12/25/2008 08:26PM
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ahhh pickinkind thanks for the heads up...never knew there were better grass bands out there brah. but ymsb was the only one playing on nye with wsp, so i was commenting on that situation. next time rebuttle with a comment pertaining the post at hand.

so shut the fuck up

Rickymullet starstarstarstarstar Sun 12/28/2008 06:04PM
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PICKINKIND & RAYMON39-don't shut the _ up but take it up with rickymullet if you've got a problem with the WIDESPREAD. YSMB is honored with the invitation by the HEAVY HEATING WSP's invite to a golden opportunity of a lifetime. Playing with with this kind of fire can lead to nothing better than a heavy hitter with JBell & the boyz laying the path for YSMB to shine b4 getting smashed by the all time greats....ladies & gentlemen.... WIDESPREAD PANIC!!

Sugaree423 starstarstarstarstar Mon 12/29/2008 12:04AM
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Rothbury'll be hot again this year!! & Raymon39, no H8n - see GreenskyBluegrass... Throw your mittens in the ayer!!