YMSB: A Decade of Blind Faith

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We're not trying to destroy the music or demolish it. We're trying to pass on the influences that gave us the ideas that have led to what we do.

-Jeff Austin

 
Image of YMSB at Red Rocks by Tobin Voggesser

Austin's tone sharpens as he says, "We had stations who'd been around for 30 years and had never played a track with a banjo. 'We don't play that.' Why? 'We're not a country station.' Fucking ignorant bastard, go back to your Motorhead cover band concert. You don't have to be a goddamn country station, [just] put the song on. All of sudden they're playing one song and then another song, and now they're waiting for the next record to come out."

Jeff Austin
"That's the new challenge," Kaufmann adds. "The touring thing, it does what it wants now. We know about that but we don't know about these other avenues that are available to musicians to get the word out. We like the songs that we write. We think we are good songwriters [and] we would like to think it would be a positive addition to someone's playlist to add the music we write to it. People could like it, even if they don't own anything with a banjo or mandolin on it. Why not?"

After spending ten years behind the wheel of the machine, the inevitable question is where does that highway lead from here?

"I'd like to believe we can keep doing what we're doing, have it keep growing, get into the venues we would like to play, beautiful venues that hold the energy of what we are trying to do, are comfortable for the audience, that sound good to us," Kaufmann says. "I'd like to continue to see audiences grow and see if more and more people can like it. I guess I learned to stop trying to predict it because I've been proven wrong in every case. It's as unpredictable as it gets for me. I'm amazed that we are where we are. I always thought we could do it but it's just that blind faith that I seem to have possession of in spades. Good lord, I don't think anyone can predict where it's going to go. A couple Grammys, maybe a Volkswagen commercial. '40 Miles from Sizzler' was always one of our ideas."

Austin throws out "Hamsteak Rising."

"Something I would love to do that we've never done is to be asked to do a movie soundtrack," Kaufmann mentions. "I really like film and scoring music for film. I can see the next two years of our lives are going to be wicked busy, but I would love to find the time to do that. It focuses you in. You're scripting something down to the second with the visual image. I would like the chance to do that."

Aijala & Fishman by Tobin Voggesser
"I like the Grammy awards idea," Austin says, a mischievous grin spreading across his face. "That would be neat. I would wear it on a chain at all times. That would be the ultimate coup."

As he looks back at some of the high points of the past year, such as playing Red Rocks with Phish's Jon Fishman behind the kit, his excitement segues into self-reflection. "You know, I have gotten away with semi-medium level mandolin playing. I have suckered so many people for so long. Someone was saying the other day, people are talking about your technique or whatever, and it doesn't bother me anymore. Fuck it. I don't want to sound like anyone else."

It takes balls to be yourself in the face of criticism but to achieve a level of sustainable success with it is something only a lucky few experience. "Whatever success is, real success is only achievable through an authentic attempt to discover who you are," Kaufmann sums it up thoughtfully. "Trying to discover who you are as a person is hard enough, but then add three other guys and five, six, seven guys in the crew and you are all living together and trying to discover who you collectively are, that's even harder. But, unless you do that, any success you might have from gig to gig or money you might make is really marginal. That's not why we're alive in the first place."

"You get over a lot of bullshit in ten years and we had to climb the heap presented to us in the barnyard," Austin says. After a decade of wiping their boots, they are a band comfortable with charting their own course, be it musical or personal. "There's no greater satisfaction in life than making something that is truly your own," observes Austin. "I think I could fucking die tomorrow and be a genuinely satisfied guy that I hopefully had a role in something that was at least genuine, that didn't come out of contrived places."

Yonder Mountain String Band
A few hours later I am standing outside Stubbs. The first time Yonder Mountain String Band played this city it was inside the restaurant for a celebration of the local varsity cheerleaders - four half-jokingly self-described "RV-ridden lecherous men" tumbling on stage to play for Texas's best jailbait. "Their fathers were not happy to see us," Johnston notes with a chortle. Austin laughs, "We were much younger men at the time."

The scene is slightly different on this warm April night. Stubb's is packed, the crowd stretching back past the bars and merch stand, kicking dust clouds towards the city's buildings and the rumble of traffic on I-35 as the band draws them in with their unique inertia. But, time doesn't change everything.

"When I first met Dave there was a look in the eyes of hunger and of 'Come on, bring it on. Let's try.' Then when we met Adam and Ben, we were four guys who all had the same look in our eyes, and we still have that now," says Austin. "There's more gray in the hair surrounding the eyes and more lines on the eyes themselves, but it's the same look."

After this memorable conversation, a wide-eyed kid and I make small talk in the port-a-potty line. He turns to me with a toothy grin and says, "Yonder are like the international language of fun." Yes, fun but it's something more than that. Fun can only run so deep. This music is alive. There's something in its heart that speaks to a profound ache for home and the search for elusive back porches or mountain cabins of the mind. We all cannonball into that leap of faith. If Bill Hicks is indeed correct and "it's all a ride," then this is the joyous, cathartic soundtrack as we barrel down the highway, slapping the steering wheel in time, speeding past our share of jealous sheriffs towards the open range.

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[Published on: 4/24/08]
 

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musicalearth star Thu 4/24/2008 05:37PM
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21mmer starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/24/2008 06:11PM
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21mmer

i thought the article was great. well written, and great insights from the band. i've been seeing yonder since '99 and they have always put on a top-notch show and sent me out the door with a smile on my face. bluegrass, newgrass, jamgrass....whatever, yonder is just good fun and good music played by good people.

Bryan24 Thu 4/24/2008 06:52PM
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Bryan24

Gotta love the ole' Yonder Mountain String Band

heynowBeKynd starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/24/2008 07:22PM
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heynowBeKynd

wonderful article, yonder is wonderful band. the only band i will travel anywhere, anytime for, no matter what. the guys deserve everything they have achieved and im so happy for them!!!!! kinfolk forever :)

treetophigh Thu 4/24/2008 07:29PM
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treetophigh

yet to read the article, besides the jeff quotes,

but every time i see these guys i cant wait till the next show,

bring on a night slot for rothbury

fuck yea yonder, best, most original, together jamband on the scene

period

kinfolk_04 starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/24/2008 08:50PM
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kinfolk_04

YMSB really is something special, I listen to them every day. Their live shows have this energy that is virtually un-matched and I cant wait to catch some of this summer tour.

Mark Price former NBA star starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/24/2008 09:02PM
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Mark Price former NBA star

God Dammit, I love YONDER...everytime I see them, it gets better and better.

MoeString starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/24/2008 09:10PM
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MoeString

KINFOLKN'A

KINFOLK.....

***LISTEN TO JOHN HARTFORD***

PastorTim starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/24/2008 10:39PM
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PastorTim

I've known these guys since back in 1999 and I STILL learned a couple of things from this article, clearly one of the best pieces I've ever read on Yonder... and trust me, I've read a few. Good writing (clearly based on good listening) and capturing in written form where they are at this very moment. Thanks for a great piece.

marcsmall1 Fri 4/25/2008 01:50AM
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marcsmall1

These guys are great, great article too. I've been seeing them for 9 years....used to see them for free at the Mountain Sun and the Accoustic Coffeehouse in Ned. Now they sell out 4,000 and 9,000 seat venues several times a year out here. I haven't seen a Yonder show that wasn't sold out in about 5 years. Serious Success Story, and Seriously great people.

RothburyWithCheese starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 03:26AM
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RothburyWithCheese

Great article. I've seen them 7 times since 2003 and I cant wait to see them for my 8th, 9th, and 10th times between now and September. Aside from Old and in the Way they are the greatest bluegrass group ever. Kepp on Ramblin'...

bri322 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 05:14AM
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bri322

i love that picture of them at red rocks. they're such great, regular guys. you can imagine them being like, can you BELIEVE we sold out red rocks?! good for them! =D

PEAR-HEAD Fri 4/25/2008 05:29AM
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PEAR-HEAD

Very nice piece indeed! Thanks, Pear(JP)

breadloaf Fri 4/25/2008 05:49AM
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Sarah, easily one of the best JamBase interviews I have read. Very well done. If this is too long for you, dude, you might want to put away your video games and work on your attention span. Kudos to these guys for creating their own vision. Well deserved success.

kinfolk_04 Fri 4/25/2008 06:20AM
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kinfolk_04

Speaking of that Red Rocks pic bri, I meant to tell everyone to check out the Red Rocks show from last year on iclips, good video and great sound and your right about the guys' amazement at selling the place out

ao1 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 06:33AM
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ao1

Amazing band....great article......this is one of the bands that makes me wish I didn't live on the east coast.....

ryan420 Fri 4/25/2008 06:39AM
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little womanski starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 06:51AM
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little womanski

Love the article, LOVE the band:) If you are complaining about no YMSB on the east coast or their shows being too expensive, they are playing in the DC-Richmond area in late June with Keller. Dunno how much the show in Richmond is going to be, but I know it's cheap. The show that is just outside of DC seems a little under the radar-- anyway ITS ONLY $15 LAWN TICKETS IN ADVANCE. I'll be there! you should come too!

treetophigh Fri 4/25/2008 08:32AM
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treetophigh

20 Dollars for a yonder show is not expensive

so many bands over 30 dollars cant touch a yonder show

sbruce44 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 09:12AM
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sbruce44

YMSB kicks a whole lot of ass. I tend to sympathize a bit with bluegrass traditionalists who are a little apprehensive of modern bluegrass going in some wrong directions, but I don't think Yonder is taking it in the wrong direction at all - I think they are very respectful to the genre and the tradition, and they keep the bluegrass spirit even if they are progressive and experimental. Really what makes bluegrass music special is that it is such honest music, and it provides a connection between generations. There are plenty of "bluegrass" bands that are phony with a capital P and I don't consider them part of the organic American musical history that is bluegrass; Yonder is honest and only adds to the tradition. They definitely belong.

SarahbLucy starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 09:21AM
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I love this article! The band is very insightful and even quoted Hunter Thompson (im impressed). Sarah did a great job capturing the personalities of what seem to be an exceptional group of musicians. I can hardly wait to see them the next time they come around.

moeMan1 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 09:23AM
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moeMan1

great article sarah i really enjoyed reading it. Long live Yonder! see you at red rocks

Sizlunt starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 09:26AM
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Sizlunt

One of the best articles I've ever read on this band. This is really refreshing to see, Jambase. I love this band, and they'd be happy to know that they are the ones that influenced me to become interested in bluegrass music.

Great article.

blower starstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 09:29AM
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Just saw them last night. Hell of a party!

kubulijohn starstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 09:39AM
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I'm kind of amazed at how much the audience has grown too. I was at their first show at Red Rocks and it was monumental. And I've been at the new years shows at the Fillmore for years. Although I'm a big time electric guiter fan, YMSB is what I would have on my desert island, no doubts.

rhythmic_randomness Fri 4/25/2008 10:09AM
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Definitely well written article. I'd like to meet that Kauffman. I was stricken with a sense of genuineness from him at their shows. The other guys seem cool, too. I just happen to think that he would probably be the respective heart of the band. After all, he does pump out the rhythm. Looking forward to the Cary, NC show with KELLER! Can't freaking wait!!!

Bryan24 Fri 4/25/2008 10:19AM
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Bryan24

I love not seein haters on an article for once.

rider11 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 10:30AM
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First, let me say thanks to JamBase. This is one of the better articles I have ever read on their site (I read them all too!). The flow, information, and candid quotes are fantastic. These boys rock! I was at the sold out Red Rocks show last Labor Day, and it was something special. I practically had the chills all night from the energy bursting out of the place. Seeing a band that is that pumped up every night and every song makes you dance harder and harder throughout the show. This is a characteristic that I have not seen in any other band on a nightly basis. The first time I saw them was '99 and every time I see them they let it all hang out. Please keep the Fishman coming, it adds even more depth to the music. Plus everyone gets to see Jonny B Fishman tear it up. What a treat! Thank you!!

marcsmall1 Fri 4/25/2008 10:32AM
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marcsmall1

When somone says this article is "Too Long" it reminds me of the movie "Idiocracy", and what computers and technology are doing to the intellect of young people.

ClapYourHands starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 11:26AM
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ClapYourHands

ahhh i love these guys. i met jeff austin in memphis in the beginning of april and hes the chillest coolest guy out there. ive seem them 7 times and id pay over 40 to see them. their energy is insane. great article!

marshbt starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 12:00PM
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I was lucky enough to see Ben and Adam play a show in Lyons this past September and they really are down to earth, regular guys. I was having a chat about Rockygrass with a fellow I met afterwards at the bonfire and next thing I know Ben had joined our conversation like he had been there the whole time. Never had a bad time at their shows (unless it was caused by alcohol...).

Luthur starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 12:11PM
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This has got to be some sort of Jambase record. Not a single, "this band sucks. I luv Bisco!*" comments. Overall a postive commenting section for an article. Quite refreshing for once.

Nice article, Sarah. Nice to see a female writer.

*This is not meant to dis on Disco Biscuits fans or the band. I could have just as easily used SCI/Phish/STS9/etc... Every band's fanbase has some wackos.

sheilabestbuy starstar Fri 4/25/2008 12:18PM
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secondbreakfast Fri 4/25/2008 12:53PM
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secondbreakfast

they killed it at the Earth Celebration in Golden Gate Park last Sunday. There must have been 30,000 people there.....and that's not the cookie talkin'!!!

Broesau starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 01:01PM
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I don't even like bluegrass music, but I used to be a phish kid, so I was convinced by some friends to see yonder at red rocks last summer w/ fishman. I was completely blown away by this band, and became an instant fan, YMSB kicks ass. 2nd best band ever to come out of this state, close behind leftover salmon.

And, Rodrigo and Gabriella opened the show, if you havent seen em, check em out, eat some L first.

Buddy BadVibes starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 01:38PM
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Buddy BadVibes

The article would have been better if it was about BISCO...jk

Great article, very interesting read, can't wait to see them again..

crawf Fri 4/25/2008 01:51PM
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Excellent writing. DJ is my favorite in the band, once talked to him extensively about his senior thesis on Thomas Pynchon and Gravity's Rainbow. Austin gets on my nerves, tho. We're just like the Grateful Dead? C'mon bro...

Mark Price former NBA star Fri 4/25/2008 02:41PM
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Mark Price former NBA star

For those of you who love Yonder, check out the MN bluegrass scene. TRAMPLED BY TURTLES, Charlie Parr, and Pert' Near Sandstone are some amazing amazing bands, that put on one hell of a show. They are in CO alot, but nothing can top YMSB. Yonder is just to cool for school.

JohnInSeattle starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 02:56PM
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JohnInSeattle

Love the article, love YMSB, and looking forward to String Summit in July!

YEEE-HAWWW!!!

shinjuku starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 03:20PM
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shinjuku

Hi Jeff! brah lurks always.. why no Yonder Williams in NH? I thought we were cool de la

Duke starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 03:57PM
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Duke

You truly captured the spirit of why we love this band, and did a wonderful job translating that into words. Love it.

Happy birthday JEFFREY.

RedHeaven starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 07:25PM
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RedHeaven

Again, amazing article and thanks jambase!! I just got back from the 2 night Tahoe run, so this was a treat awaiting my eyes upon return. The throwdown was more intense than ever, and the sold out crowd became a part of the music as we took on the personality of Yonder and helped shape it, at the same time. I first stumbled upon Yonder and was an instant fan at High Sierra 2000. Thanks Vince!! While Jerry magically broke bluegrass to non traditionalist fans, its bands like Salmon and Yonder that have entered my bloodstream to forever grassify my existence. Its good to be here now. "I just ate a fly.....I hope it works" ~Jeff Austin antics 4 lyfe

PooDolla starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/25/2008 08:11PM
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PooDolla

Gonna see them tomorrow. So stoked! I got boring ass class all day then as soon as I'm out I'm getting fuckin' ripped on some of San Diego's finest and gonna groove out to some Yonder. Yeah baby!! That's how we do.

MelbaToast starstarstarstarstar Sun 4/27/2008 12:05PM
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MelbaToast

I know what they're saying about bluegrass purists. I went to Merlefest this weekend, and while it was amazing, I never mentioned my love for yonder in conversation (except to this festie kid I met there) because I knew I'd get snubbed by the old-timers. I don't even care though, b/c you know when the Avettes did there night set, everyone in the whole audience was F***ing sitting! Can you believe that? I mean, farts like that couldn't even handle a yonder show.

c00lmike Sun 4/27/2008 02:59PM
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c00lmike

I don't really like bluegrass, but love Yonder. What does that say about me as a person?

hdynug22 Sun 4/27/2008 07:19PM
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hdynug22

Railroad Earth blows ymsb out of the water...stilll love yonder, not hatin but tellin the truth

roberto767 starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/28/2008 02:28AM
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roberto767

I don't think I'd pay $25 to see em again.

Jekisa starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/28/2008 03:15AM
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Jekisa

Great story, I enjoyed the fact that it was so long and in depth.

Yonder brings it.

theivywall starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/28/2008 08:59AM
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theivywall

"Then we have to play festivals with these bands and friends of ours will be like, 'Did you see that band? They were so great.' And we'll be like, ''NOOOOO!'" He groans, clutching his Cubs hat to his head. "Get in the car, smoke the joint and listen to the Country Gentlemen. Shut up and listen to that! Did you hear that thud at the beginning of the record?" He slams his hand down on the plastic tub we've rigged to prop up my tape recorder. "That's their balls being put on the table!

HAHAHA!

He's pretty loud and in your face sometimes, but I love Jeff Austin, I do, I do.

marcsmall1 Mon 4/28/2008 12:18PM
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marcsmall1

I've never been able to get into Railroad Earth too much... They are decent players, but they tend to bore me. They don't have the energy that YMSB has and they have too much of an "East Coast" sound. They would be cool as an opening act for Yonder at Red Rocks one year.

Cornflake76-09 starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/28/2008 03:21PM
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Cornflake76-09

I don't understand how these "traditionalists" can be so damn close-minded. I respect bands that stay within their specific genre box and play songs in the traditional manner for what they are but music should be progressive and ever-changing at the same time. Yonder has reinvented a genre that was dying and stagnant. Once musicians and fans understand that music has no boundaries or limitations we will have these certain close-minded attitides and jealousies.

Danimal Mon 4/28/2008 03:33PM
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Danimal

Maybe I'll get it one day, but right now I just don't. I mean, I like them and all, but I don't know why everyone goes apeshit about it. I've never seen all this "energy" everyone talks about.

MelbaToast Mon 4/28/2008 05:31PM
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MelbaToast

Randy Clark - you're so right. And if you put it in context, bluegrass is not that old of a genre compared to other music. And like newgrass, and like every other musical form, it evolved from experimentation. At some point a certain set of traits that defined bluegrass changed from "descriptive" to "prescriptive," i.e. instead of simply describing what bluegrass was, they became this rigid box dictating what bluegrass should be. I think the purists react negatively to bands like Yonder because they see as a form of subversion. Or mabey desicration, I'm not sure...

mattguff9 starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/28/2008 07:11PM
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mattguff9

Bill Monroe never liked Newgrass Revival so not much has changed on the traditional vs. progressive front. Have you ever listened to Sirius Bluegrass? Barely listenable, most of the new stuff has no balls as Jeff mentioned. I would much rather a band find its own identity than conform to some genre standard. Oh yeah, Minneapolis bluegrass is smokin' people!

benlostforyears Wed 4/30/2008 11:32AM
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benlostforyears

What is their deal with nashville? I've seen them there twice and the only diss they got was a drink thrown on stage by some dumb drunk fuck who the crowd kicked out immediately. I love traditional bluegrass, but yonder isn't supposed to be that and most people know it - thats why i like 'em. However, their last album was terribly pop and a disappointment compared to their usual.

carterd Thu 5/1/2008 10:20AM
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this is, by far, the best article i've ever read on Jambase

bravo to the author. you got it just right...

JUMP2 starstarstarstarstar Thu 5/1/2008 09:20PM
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Great story!!! I'm a server on Beale street and I waited on Jeff Austin a couple of weeks ago. Supper nice guy. I love this band.

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Sat 5/3/2008 03:34PM
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EVILFUNK

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -Hunter S. Thompson

chrishickie78 starstarstarstarstar Sun 5/11/2008 05:35PM
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I've been a fan of jambase for years and this is one of the best articles i've ever seen written on here. exceptionally insightful and it kinda puts what Yonder emcompasses into words. This band is one of the reasons that I still have faith in the music industry today and the quality that it can produce.

Mule86 Tue 5/13/2008 02:28PM
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Mule86

Yonder rocks. Jeff Austin isn't the nicest guy tho...Me and a buddy waited 3 hours in the cold rain at the Canopy Club just to meet the man. After waiting forever, he finally came outside and gave us an autograph..

yahamita starstarstarstarstar Fri 5/16/2008 01:25PM
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All who YONDER...What a killer band. I was the street team leader for the show here in Bend, OR..These guys jammed, and we danced our asses off until a little after 1:00 am. See you all with YONDER at the North West String Summit!

2 Hits and the Joint turned brown!