Deadheads for Obama: Show Rebroadcast Today

iClips Rebroadcast Deadheads For Obama Show Today

As we reported late last week, Phil Lesh along with Bob Weir, Mickey Hart, Jackie Greene, John Molo and Steve Molitz played a Super Tuesday Eve show in support of Barack Obama at San Francisco's legendary Warfield Theatre. The show went down on Monday February 4, but will be rebroadcast by iClips today at 2:30 p.m. PST & 7:30 p.m. PST.

Watch the show at iClips.

Setlist

02.04.08 :: Warfield Theatre :: San Francisco, CA

Set I: Playing In The Band > Brown-Eyed Women > Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo > Minglewood Blues > Come Together

Phil speech about Obama

Phil, Mickey and Bobby Rockin' The Vote

Set II (acoustic): Deep Elem Blues > Friend Of The Devil, Deal, Ripple

Set III: China Cat Sunflower > The Wheel > Other One > Sugaree, Eyes Of The World > Throwing Stones > Iko Iko > Playing Reprise

E: U.S. Blues


Barack From The Dead: Phil, Mickey & Bobby Play
Super Tuesday Eve Show in Support of Barack Obama

Phil Lesh
Phil Lesh along with Bob Weir, Mickey Hart, Jackie Greene, John Molo and Steve Molitz will play a Super Tuesday Eve show in support of Barack Obama at San Francisco's legendary Warfield Theatre on Monday February 4. Tickets for the rare reunion of the members of the Grateful Dead will go on sale at 5 p.m. Pacific time through Ticketmaster. In the spirit of fair access to tickets for fans, this event is a "WILL CALL ONLY" event. Tickets are only $35.00.

The video website Iclips will be producing a live simulcast streamed via the Internet on www.iclips.net at approximately 7:30 p.m. PST.

This will mark the first time that the members of The Grateful Dead have performed together since 2004. They have agreed to reunite for this one-time-only event in order to lend support to Senator Obama leading into the crucial "Super Tuesday" series of primaries held on Tuesday, February 5.

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[Published on: 2/5/08]

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Comments

thewormisgod starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 03:51PM
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STOKED! been waiting for this announcement to become official all day.

Danimal Fri 2/1/2008 03:51PM
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Danimal

Phil is making me want to move to Cali.

deadphish001 starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 03:56PM
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deadphish001

Move to Cali b/c Cali rocks and is LOVELY... Phil is added bonus

Steph Fri 2/1/2008 04:02PM
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Steph

Sweeeeeeeet! This just made my week.

moephishH2O starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 04:09PM
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moephishH2O

oh man, that's awesome! I wish I lived down there!

freetime3 starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 04:15PM
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freetime3

Lucky....

jalew Fri 2/1/2008 04:22PM
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jalew

Barack From The Dead....nice.

kyjed48 starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 04:46PM
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That's awesome! I wish I could be there.

jackstraw1984 Fri 2/1/2008 04:49PM
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jackstraw1984

Hey Bobby and Phil, make nice at this one so we can look forward to Dead Tour Summer '08. Come on ya'll, it's been four years...

gino5 starstar Fri 2/1/2008 04:54PM
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gino5

will the dead tour this summer?

Muffinman1 Fri 2/1/2008 04:59PM
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Muffinman1

Come Back To ROO!!!! '04 was crazy.

MoeString Fri 2/1/2008 05:06PM
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jalew Fri 2/1/2008 05:09PM
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jalew

in the lower balcony baby!

Innaheights starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 05:12PM
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Innaheights

what about billy k?

Is he a republican?

notice there is a John McCain Add on Jambase right above grateful dead t's made in china. The last thing we need is a crazy man who spent ten years in a cage.

I hope offical dead merch is at least made in the US that would be a start.

I remember seeing the dead in '04 at Tweeter center in MAss, it was right after the DNC (democratic nat'l convention not dead net central lol) and supposively the "Help on the Way" was a tribute to Kerry. but Kerry was weak. I think Obama may really take it. I'll bet they play help on the way or at least us blues.

BGA1 Fri 2/1/2008 05:14PM
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Man that sold out quik!! I wasn't going to settle for Balc. Seats. I tried 7 or 8 times and finally scored 2 Floor tix. I am so HAppy!!!Not bad for finding out about it 5 minutes before they went on sale at work Cooking no less. But had enough time to say thanks jambase for the headsup!!!

moephishH2O Fri 2/1/2008 05:15PM
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moephishH2O

I bet it sold out in less than 2 minutes...

data starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 05:22PM
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Obama!!!!

OaksterDan starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 05:50PM
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OaksterDan

I got my 2 tix. Happy Happy Joy Joy! First time seeing bobby, phil & mickey together since 2004 northeast run (Mass, NY & CT) of The Dead. Phil Lesh & friends show 11/27/07 at the Warfield rocked better than any show on the 2007 tour by far! Mardi gra was fun but not as good. Jackie's B-3 playing very similar to Jeff Chimenti (Ratdog) was a pleasant suprise.

brewer247 Fri 2/1/2008 05:56PM
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brewer247

Slam dunk for Obama. If he can "raise" The Dead, I'm sure he can lead this country out of.........

O1Roggae Fri 2/1/2008 06:06PM
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O1Roggae

I voted for Barack for fl primary, even though he lost I really hope he wins the democratic primary. This is the best news I have heard in a really long time. Barack is the headiest candidate in the race.

akeay Fri 2/1/2008 06:09PM
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akeay

Seems to already be sold out - in less than an hour! damn

DrFunkinstein Fri 2/1/2008 06:36PM
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DrFunkinstein

Diggin the support for Obama, anybody but a rich, white, christian bigot. Fool me 43 times shame on you, fool me 44 times, im moving abroad.

JnaY starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 06:39PM
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WOOOHOOO got my Floor Ticket!!! Living it up... 5 experiences with Mr. Lesh in the past 3 weeks

+ this show #6 with Bobby and Mickey! Damn, I love the west coast. Glad to be able to dance around to these revolutionary people. This show is going to GO OFF... FULL MELT DOWN!

fydo1974 starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 07:13PM
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fydo1974

Awwwww yeah, I'm in the Lower Loge baby. GO BARACK!!

lexslamman starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 07:25PM
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Glad to see the boys pulling for the only good candidate in the field right now. Wish I was in California.

RothburyWithCheese starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 08:00PM
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RothburyWithCheese

The best in music supporting the best in politics. Stellar! Obama=the Dead as Ron Paul=Candlebox.

moecheeseplease Fri 2/1/2008 08:06PM
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moecheeseplease

thats a surprise

bigchris starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 08:20PM
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I'll be there.

Too bad they couldn't get Billy and Hornsby on board, but this should totally rock! I hope they sell Barry Obama tye-dyes 70s style.

Good to see the Dead support a worthy candidate, Wash DC needs a new message, bad!

Scarlett5446 starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 08:44PM
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Scarlett5446

I wish I could make it out to this show!!! I hope everyone with a ticket rages it on Tuesday for all of the fans, like me, who are stuck on the East Coast. Maybe someone should start up a chant: "Dead summer tour! Dead summer tour!"

dfreshvt starstarstarstarstar Fri 2/1/2008 08:47PM
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fuckin A right!!!!!!!!!!

GratefulB Fri 2/1/2008 10:01PM
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does ANYONE have an extra ticket for this mama?????? please please....man o man i really need to get into this show!

Climb To Safety Fri 2/1/2008 10:03PM
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Ron Paul is the only worthy candidate in my opinion.

GratefulB Fri 2/1/2008 10:08PM
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P.S. - you can email me about tix @ littlewing_benay@hotmail.com or benayrose@yahoo.com

philhitz Sat 2/2/2008 06:18AM
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this definitely beats barabara 'the nose' streissand performing for clinton -- but does it also put the remaining memebers of the dead in the same category as 'chuck norris' who has been stumping for huckabee? -- i thought the dead were 'apolitical' -- jerry said it time & time again -- getting people to vote is a great thing, which the dead members have been heavily involved in, picking sides is another story -- although i do expect to be slammed for this here - i honestly am a huge grateful dead fan, more than any other band or performer.

gratefuled starstarstarstarstar Sat 2/2/2008 09:07AM
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gratefuled

This sounds interesting...add Billy, Bruce and Kimock and that would be a world-tour worthy line-up. What will the summer bring????

oldfartatplay starstar Sat 2/2/2008 09:12AM
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oldfartatplay

philhitz definately has a point about the dead endorsing a candidate. that being said, i hope those of us who will be unable to attend, will have access to a nice sbd recording.

acomma Sat 2/2/2008 09:15AM
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acomma

It would be sweet if the Dead were playing for Ron Paul. He's the man. Good question gratefuled, what will the summer bring? Hopefully a tour.

alltimepanic starstarstar Sat 2/2/2008 09:31AM
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what no Billy the drummer? What a bummer.

moejoerisin Sat 2/2/2008 09:55AM
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moejoerisin

"Barack is the headiest candidate in the race."

i guess, if you consider the Council on Foreign Relations 'heady'.

smahier starstarstarstarstar Sat 2/2/2008 01:34PM
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that is so sweet. i wish i was out on the west coast for this win, i love Obama and obviously the dead reunion, great combination

TwoSawn Sat 2/2/2008 02:38PM
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Just a reminder everyone, to all the heads who wish they could be there but can't. As it says above, you can watch the whole thing in real time:

"The video website Iclips will be producing a live simulcast streamed via the Internet on www.iclips.net at approximately 7:30 p.m. PST."

kjmcgrupp starstarstar Sat 2/2/2008 02:40PM
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Just goes to show you musicians should stick to music, overjoyed about the reunion prospect, but for Barrack Obama? This guy was in the Illinois State Senate a few years ago, and just because he's a good speaker and has a flashy smile people are flocking to support him? Please tell me one notable thing this guy has done in the U.S. Senate since he's been there, other than being gone to campaign for President.

monacle Sat 2/2/2008 03:54PM
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BooneRes starstarstarstarstar Sat 2/2/2008 03:56PM
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BooneRes

Yeah because the president we've had that had a little so called experience has done so well. Go back to kansas or oklahoma or where ever the you dumbass republicans live these days and stop posting on a jamband website. ron paul sucks too and hes far from what this country needs. fuckin repulican peices of shit!

BooneRes Sat 2/2/2008 03:59PM
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ROCvibes Sat 2/2/2008 04:09PM
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ROCvibes

SUMMMER TOUUURRR PLEEEAAASSEE!!

...ps: thank you iclips for saving us east-coast heads

moecheeseplease Sat 2/2/2008 04:25PM
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moecheeseplease

heady is the dumbest adjective. it makes you sound very stupid.

"heady candidate" pshhh

Tony8 Sat 2/2/2008 04:29PM
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Tony8

Summer 2008....Weir, Lesh, Hart, Billy K, with Hornsby, Kimock & Karan, Molo on kit too...that would be a dream come true...go ahead and have Panic and the Allmans open up too....why not? We only live once....

Organic Earth llc Sat 2/2/2008 04:40PM
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Organic Earth llc

So what makes Obama a worthy candidate? I had no interest until this...

HoodooVoodoo starstarstarstarstar Sat 2/2/2008 06:49PM
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HoodooVoodoo

wwjv4.com/republicans/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-ron-paul-159

moejoerisin Sat 2/2/2008 07:11PM
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moejoerisin

^stupidest website ever.. full of oversimplified, ad hominem fallacies.. good job posting it again chief... there's a politics debate in the discussion threads i'd encourage all to join..

tzolkin13 star Sat 2/2/2008 07:21PM
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Wow...Does anyone know the what the real deal is or are we all in denial? Barack Obama and his wife are members of the CFR. The CFR's goal is to end American sovereignty and install a One-World government. Vote or support a New World Order shill.

P.S. Bobby Weir has been to the "Bohemian Grove"...weak...Bobbly and Moloch?

We are at crucial point in human history. It's time to step it up and take back control of our own lives before we completely fall into the clutches of the Elite Globalist scum. Truth hurts sometimes...sorry.

P.S.S. While you are researching the TRUTH go ahead and google "Bilderberg"

Spoiler Warning>>>Bilderberg has already picked Hillary to be Prez and Obama as her VP

acomma Sat 2/2/2008 07:49PM
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acomma

Ron Paul is a true Republican, not like the ones that have been in office the past 20 years. The word Republican has such a negative connotation these days, and I can see why. When everyone thinks Republican, they usually think of religious nuts and hicks. Anyway, Ron Paul would end our empirical influence in the Middle East and would place US matters ahead of foreign matters, the way it should be. If you lived in Iraq, would you want an outside government (the US) telling you how to run your government? We would object strongly to such an occurance, so why should we be doing the same? Also, our national sovereignty needs to be the paramount concern nowadays with the changing economy and the loss of jobs to other countries. He also considers himself a constitutionalist, adhering very closely to what it says. tranceful, do some fucking research before making ignorant comments. He would also get rid of the IRS. How great would that be!?!?

acomma Sat 2/2/2008 07:51PM
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acomma

And how much longer does everyone think the comment section will be available before jambase takes it down?

JackStraw58 Sat 2/2/2008 08:40PM
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Think of the Innagural Ball if the boys played the bash. Let's hope we can put or differences aside and make some more music together. Once again, 5 nights at Red Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm there.

data starstarstarstarstar Sat 2/2/2008 09:08PM
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I hear Clinton is still leading in California. I think either would be good but love the passion of Obama!

QuantumTubaMan Sat 2/2/2008 09:22PM
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QuantumTubaMan

I like where Ron Paul stands on foreign policy issues and drug laws, where he may be the best of the pack, however, we seem to conveniently ignore his irrational religious beliefs. I don't trust any candidate who rejects established scientific reality without presenting adequate empirical evidence to support his assertions as a leader.

Independently of how good you think Ron Paul, or Dennis Kucinich, or Mike Gravel are, they no longer stand a chance in the election. It seems that we should shift our support to the best candidate with hope of winning (Obama!), but let our obscure political messiahs keep informing the debate, and hopefully changing the overall zeitgeist.

PhilnWeird star Sun 2/3/2008 05:39AM
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PhilnWeird

Who cares who the leftover Dead are endorsing for President? I think people should make their own decisions. Just because Booby and Phil are playing a gig doesn't mean that you should vote for Obama. Anyway the democrats have no chance in this election. I am not against them or anything but look at their two candidates. Hilary and Obama, no chance in hell. I see 8 more years of Republicans in office.

OaksterDan starstarstarstar Sun 2/3/2008 08:40AM
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OaksterDan

Heads this is about Bobby, Mickey, Phil & friends wanting to raise money for a candidate they support. Remember they played a mini set for John Kerry in 2004 in San Francisco. Would they be doing this if Bush & War weren't such a disaster, maybe not. But "it is what it is"! Be a leader not a follower and vote for the candidate that represents you and your views best and not your favorite artists. Don't let the media tell you who you should vote for because they have a vested financial interest. I'm a head and I approve this lifestyle!

example1 Sun 2/3/2008 11:04AM
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example1

ron paul is a good politician, but i dont agree with isolationism. the world is too dangerous for America to hide in a hole. if America had never intervened in the european conflicts, which btw were dissaproved of heavily by citizens up until the attack on pearl harbor, Germany would have taken the world prisoner. hitler even commisioned the mexican government to help in their attack on the US, in return mexico would recieve a portion of the southwest. in this day and age, we need a president who will face problems head on....without making a total bush of themselves.

moejoerisin Sun 2/3/2008 11:50AM
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non-interventionism is not isolationism.

moejoerisin Sun 2/3/2008 11:51AM
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moejoerisin

forums > general discussion > Politics - why Ron Paul will revive the united states...

join the discussion, ya'll

leftovercheese4u star Sun 2/3/2008 01:50PM
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I will vote for Ron Paul. Obama = socialism.

Good to see some people read up on their stuff (Acomma/tzolkin13) instead of letting a media with their hidden agenda's sway their vote.

But anyhow, It's good to hear that phil and bobby are playing together.

How about a summer tour boys?

wharfrat04 starstarstarstarstar Sun 2/3/2008 05:30PM
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This thread might be dead by now cause it's a couple days old, but for those who asked Billy's not in this lineup because he's currently playing with the David Nelson Band in Hawaii. I personly hope that this is a sign for things to come. I'd rather not talk politics here cause I'd rather focus on hopes for a summer tour. Doesn't mean politics arn't important, I just visit this site to hear about music. (not an attack on anyone for expressing their veiws.Just choosing to abstain)

RGxB2807 Sun 2/3/2008 07:35PM
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Ron Paul 2008.

loudooben10 starstarstarstarstar Sun 2/3/2008 07:53PM
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loudooben10

democrazy

caught starstarstarstarstar Sun 2/3/2008 07:54PM
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caught

I'm just a caveman who fell in a cravasse but I liked it when Obama dissed Hilary for working at Walmart.

caught Sun 2/3/2008 08:09PM
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caught

Hope I learn a little more about Barack Obama at the show.

bagus Sun 2/3/2008 10:14PM
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BlowsAgainsttheEmpire Mon 2/4/2008 02:04AM
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BlowsAgainsttheEmpire

dnb did their last show on 2/2. billy could fly back if he wanted. after doing 6 shows in a row, maybe he just doesnt want to.

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I am soo happy I voted early in this primary.. It appears my favorite musicians and myself love Mr OBAMA, the only person that WILL change USA for the better :) Yay!!!!! OBAMA!!!!!

moeron221 Mon 2/4/2008 06:30AM
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I might be a deadhead but i don't take my personal politics from them...

AVANTGUARD starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 06:47AM
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AVANTGUARD

Tour together, damn you! :-)

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 08:37AM
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Im sorry ladies and gentlemen, but they are making a huge mistake. Michelle Obama is a member of the council on foriegn relations. Obama might look like a good candidate but dont expect anything to change. He and his wife are a member of all the same organizations that the clintons and the bushes and the cheyneys are members of. THE COUNCIL ON FORIEGN RELATIONS. It doesnt matter if its mccain, romney, obama or clinton. They are all working for the same agenda. But then again, bob wier is a member of bohemian grove so im not surprised. moejoerisin, your going to see alot of slaves making there decision as a direct result of this announcement. Dont get discouraged. They dont have the slightest idea what they are doing. Just read what arlo guthrie said about ron paul "I really love this guy ron paul, hes the only candidate up there that wouldve signed the constituition had he been there at the time" and hes absolutely right. Whether you want to realize it or dig your head in the sands, these people we supposedly elect are working purposefully to remove our freedoms. How come barak obama wont say whether or not he will do what he can to get rid of the patriot act and the military commissions act? Its a no brainer, and if you think he can dodge that question everytime its asked and remain credible then your are a slave. Let me just spell this out for you. Dick Cheyney is a member of the council on foriegn relations, michele obama(baraks wife) is a member of the council on foriegn relations, hilary clinton is a member of the council on foriegn relations, Donald Rumsfeld is a member of the council on foriegn relations, john edwards is a member of the council on foriegn relations, john mccain is a member of the council on foriegn relations, mike huckabee is a member of the council on foriegn relations. The CFR was setup after world war I in america by the rockafellers and the rothschilds to control american politics because the US congress wouldnt accept the league of nations controling us. So since the congress wouldnt publicly allow the league of nations to control us they went ok fine, well do it in secret. And thats where the CFR came from. So all you small minded, brain dead, yuppie slaves who think theres no way that both parties can be controled by the same interest better put down thier 7$ bottle or 6$ starbucks coffee and start reading and researching. Let me ask you a question. What business does Hilary Clinton have being a member of a private policy planning group that dick cheyney was the head of during the 80s and 90s? Try to figure that one out. And i would like to clarify for the morons who cant pay attention for more than a nanosecond, this is not the senate forign relations commitee. The council on foriegn relations is a PRIVATE body that sets an AGENDA that reflects the INTERESTS of the people who founded the group. And those people are the same robber barrons who funded the soviet union and the nazi's. Think im lying? think again. Rockafeller, though standard oil, bankrolled the communists. Averill herriman and prescott bush(george W bush's grandfater, you morons!) funded the nazi's with thier union banking and union carbide corporations. Thier middle man was none other than the arch-nazi Fritz Theysin. Hmmmm, i wonder why anyone with half a brain says were in the middle of a facist shift in this country. Think im lying? Look it up. The time for being nice is over. You do not have the right to not know this information. Our enemy is ignorance. Are you part of the problem? Are you part of the solution? Do you support a candidate that is a member of these secretive governing bodies(CFR, bilderberg, club of rome, skull and bones, ect...) Or are you going to support a candidate who has a clean record and no ties to these pernicious cults? As far as i can tell, the only candidate that is not a member of these governing bodies is ron paul. Take a look at his voting record. There isnt a single indication that he is not sincere. He is the only candidate that mentions the words civil liberties. I wonder why that is? Maybe its because hes the only candidate that actually wants us to be free individuals and independant thinkers. If you think what im saying is BS, dont complain. Prove me wrong. Look this stuff up. Im going to check back periodically to rebutt the ignorant nonsense that people will be indoubtedly spewing in response to my little history lesson. Oh yah, and if you need some hardcore in your face evidence that these people want us to be dumb and dependant, know this, sodium-floride, the stuff they put in our drinking water that supposedly makes out teeth stronger. Well guess what, the first time floridated drinking water was used was in the NAZI concentration camps and the SOVIET GULAGS!! Because it had a "calming effect". You want another example of pervasive chemical warfare against us. How many of you had hepititis B vaccines? Guess what, there was high doses of mercury in those shots. What does mercury do to your brain? How many of you out there have been given the GARDISIL HUMAN PAPALOMA VIRUS VACCINNE(HPV VACCINE)? That has high doses of mercury in it. Go on the web and look up all the women all over the world who are becoming steril or worse, flat out dying from it. Wake up slaves.

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stoops Mon 2/4/2008 09:22AM
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stoops

the dead are great. politics are important...but please make up your own minds. i just turned down tickets from my west coast amigos. obama, in my opinion, is unelectable. he looks viable in primary season, but november is a national election. i'll admit, he's probably the best speaker in either party that has campaigned but beyond that...

delaneyira- i applaud your desire to be informed. i also commend you wanting to inform others...but conspiracy theories are just that, theories. the lacking ingrediant is proof. get us some of that and we will have real conspiracies. until then we appear to have lots of misunderstood correlations, paranoid assertions, and typical anti-establishment rhetoric!

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sadly .. we have to choose... just VOTE ppl!!!!

Astronaut Jones Mon 2/4/2008 09:39AM
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Astronaut Jones

the Dead used to pride themselves on being apolitical. i wonder how jerry feels on this one? some of you should kill yourselves and go see. on a side note moecheeseplease--"heady" is a great word and saying "very stupid" makes YOU sound stupid. there are, like it or not, no degrees of stupid gramatically speaking. it's like being pregnant. either you are or aren't. there's no "very pregnant".

OaksterDan starstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 09:39AM
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I'm going tonight for the reunion NOT the politics. Ron Paul is just like Ralph Nader they represent real change which is why republican & democratic parties will not allow them to destroy there control of our corrupt two party system. Campaign reform & term limits were have gone??? I'm voting for Turd Sandwich!

terapin starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 09:42AM
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Are you kidding??? Ron Paul is a joke..........just spent about four minutes on his website and can already tell this guy is a religious nut......he wants to negate the effect of Roe v Wade.......LADIES PAY ATTENTION....he is attempting to take away your FREEDOM !!!!! Now I am trying to figure out if he believes in evolution or if he is completely crazy......seems like a typical Christian goof ball.......

O1Roggae starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 09:49AM
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Obama has is the only candidate in this race to me that makes sense. Its not about what damn party your in. Even though there are always going to be negative stereotypes associated with the 2 party system we can't all disagree just because we favor a different party. Republicans and Democrats are all the same. By the way if you don't go out and vote and voice your opinion at the polls,you should have no say in politics right now. Barack is heady by the way and if you think that is a poor word to describe him than oh well. Obama 08' By the way this is going to be a great show for a great reason

O1Roggae starstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 09:50AM
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just joshin- great comment and totally agree with you

canoftunapudding Mon 2/4/2008 10:03AM
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Guess what,

Our government will continue to do the same shit regardless of who gets elected. I would expect that most other heads in here are old enough to have noticed this already. If you're running for president and you have gotten this far along then you are a political whore anyways. Support who you feel like but don't expect the country to go to complete shit just because your guy didn't get picked.

phishmann starstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 10:16AM
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can we all agree that delaneyria is a tool! the dead have the right to support who ever they want.

phishr82 Mon 2/4/2008 10:32AM
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Jerry is probably pissed, wherever he is. Billy is the smart one, and probably the only one that remembers that the Dead spend forever trying to not get involved in politics.

moejoerisin Mon 2/4/2008 10:45AM
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"Only with the complicity of Congress have we become a nation of preemptive war, secret military tribunals, torture, rejection of habeas corpus, warrantless searches, undue government secrecy, extraordinary renditions, and uncontrollable spying on the American people. The greatest danger we face is ourselves: what we are doing in the name of providing security for a people made fearful by distortions of facts. Fighting over there has nothing to do with preserving freedoms here at home. More likely, the opposite is true."

-Ron Paul

sure sounds like a nut to me..

alw7 Mon 2/4/2008 10:49AM
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I can't agree, and hopefully I'm not the only one,that delaneyria is a tool. He makes some valid points,including the most important one,think for yourself,don't let a group of musicicnas,or anybody else, make up your mind. Do a little research and draw your own conclusions, I'm not saying he is correct,just that you should decide for yourself. He's also probably right thta many people will be swayed by the Dead backing this guy and I agree that that is wrong also. I don't care which candidate it is,or who is endorsing them,you shouldn't vote for a person just because somebody says you should. I also believe that they are all the same, they just use different words. Rich,white men(YES Hillary and Obama included) with little connection to regular people.

alw7 Mon 2/4/2008 10:49AM
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I can't agree, and hopefully I'm not the only one,that delaneyria is a tool. He makes some valid points,including the most important one,think for yourself,don't let a group of musicicnas,or anybody else, make up your mind. Do a little research and draw your own conclusions, I'm not saying he is correct,just that you should decide for yourself. He's also probably right thta many people will be swayed by the Dead backing this guy and I agree that that is wrong also. I don't care which candidate it is,or who is endorsing them,you shouldn't vote for a person just because somebody says you should. I also believe that they are all the same, they just use different words. Rich,white men(YES Hillary and Obama included) with little connection to regular people.

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 10:57AM
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Responding to "stoops" comment. He was looking for proof. Well, its easier than you think. Go on youtube and search cheney cfr, then watch the speach he gives. Then search clinton cfr and watch the speech she gives. Notice that they are both members of the CFR(there is the CFR backround and they mention thier membership in their speeches) and cheney even comments "Its good to be back here at the council on foriegn relations, ive been a member for a long time and was even the director. I never mentioned that when i was on the campaign trail" Ok, so step one. We have dick Cheney sayign that. Step two is processing of info, and drawing conclusions. Dick cheney was the director of an agenda setting PRIVATE governing body. Hiltlery clinton was a member of the same AGENDA SETTING GOVERNING BODY. I dont know how i can spell out the collusion any more succinctly. The proof is out there for everyone to look at. But you people choose not to look at it. That is why you are slaves. Look up smedley butler. He was a war hero that these hidden hands(rockafellers, warburgs, carnegie, rothschilds, ect...) tryed to use to overthrown the govt but smedley butler blew the whistle on them. Wikipedia says quote "In 1934, Butler came forward and reported to the U.S. Congress that a group of wealthy pro-Fascist industrialists had been plotting to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a military coup. Even though the congressional investigating committee corroborated most of the specifics of his testimony, no further action was taken." Hmmmmm, no further action was taken? people were plotting to overthrow the USA and install a facist dictatorship and congress did nothing when this fact was revealed? I wonder who congress is working for? You see what I mean. You people dont even know this happened when its right there in the record for everyone to see. This isnt some conspiricy theory, it is well documented and demonstratable. Look up Project SHAD, where they released VX gas and other chemical agents on AMERICAN SOLDIERS WITHOUT THEM KNOWING ABOUT IT!! Some of these men died. Most of you people will not believe any of this unless cnn reports it huh? Well that project shad, that information was released by the pentagon. They admited it. Do you think the pentagon was lying when they admited to exposing un-witting us soldiers to VX NERVE GAS? See what i mean? See why i have nothing but contemp for you ignorant assholes? Instead of reading this stuff and going "hmmm I wonder why i never heard of this, you say things like "you must be crazy, ive never heard of any of this stuff. Must be a conspiricy nut" Notice there will not be a single post that actually tackles the information i put forth. All that ppl will have to say is dont come at me with conspiricy theories. If you dont believe that hitlary, cheney, and michelle obama are members of the CFR then look it up and prove that its wrong. I wish you could prove me wrong, i dont want this stuff to be true. You think i like being a slave? Do you think i like seeing my country destroyed? Do you think it was fun to realize that almost everything ive been taught since i was a kid was propaganda and in many cases, bald face lies? Now some of you will be like why dont you just go F yourself, or you got no life you just like makin fun of people. Well, unfortunately WE THE PEOPLE are depending on you taking a look at the facts and waking up to this fraud. Im a slave too BTW, i work for fidelity investments. I pay taxes. Theres nothing we can do about it until we wake up and take back our govt. Vote out every incumbant official unless he demands the federal reserve to shut down, unless he exposes the CFR and bilderberg group, unless he states that he will bring all american troops home from foriegn countries and turn america back into a soveriegn nation as opposed to a blood sucking empire. Look at the world, look at what we have been responsible. All of us. Paying taxes, allowing our sons and daughters to be the footsoldiers for corporate interests. Take a look at what we did in nicaragua and guatamala. Did we have to kill over a million iraqis? Did we have to spend 500billion to protect america? Why did we borrow 30 billion from china and give it to musharaf, a military dictator who overthrew a democratically elected govt. And then in the same motion spend 500billion promoting democracy in IRAQ? Cmon now, how can you read that and not be shaken up? I know its scary, i know it sucks, i know it can make you feel small and insignificant. But its only because we the people have allowed this to happen. Ill never advocate violence, it shouldnt have to come to that. If people like you guys would simply take a look into these things we could collectively kick these fuckers out of office. It could change litterally overnight. All it takes is people understanding the system, which isnt all that complicated. One last message to all those ppl who love to call things conspiricy theories. Remember, a theory is accepted until the moment data is presented to disprove the theory. You all call this conspiricy theory but none of you have any information to disprove it. Try to prove that project shad didnt happen. Try to prove that hitlery, cheney and michelle obama are not members of the CFR. Try to disprove that averill heriman and prescott bush were funding the nazi's. Try to disprove that there was a facist coup 85 years ago and smedley butler blew teh whistle on it. Try to disprove that 911 was an inside job. Then try to prove your case, try to prove there were weapons of mass destruction, try to prove that osama bin laden and a bunch of people in caves flew planes into the twin towers, try to prove that hitlery or obama have promised an immediate withdrawril of american troops from foriegn soil, try to prove that socialized healthcare or managed care(what we have now) will be better than freemarket healthcare. If you can prove or disprove those things, then you win. But it simply isnt going to happen. watch, youll see, there wont be a single, well thought out, documented response. Watch...

weirman029 Mon 2/4/2008 10:59AM
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Ron Pauls entire campaign is freedom and limited government. He might bereligious, but he also says that he doesnt have any right to force his views on you, which is what this country was founded on. Google Ron Paul, he tells the truth.

RON PAUL '08

Astronaut Jones Mon 2/4/2008 11:14AM
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the write-in campaign for Hannah Montana starts here!! Who wouldn't want this country being run via proxy by Billy Ray Cyrus?? Our platform will be to change the Presidential theme song from "Hail to the Chief" to "God Save the Mullet" Fantastic! Who's with me?

terapin starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 11:17AM
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But wait......I googled Ron Popeil and it is true.....he invented the Chop-O-Matic and the Electric Food Dehydrator !!!!! Ron Popeil for President!! His products have made the America a better place for all.

phishmann starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 11:19AM
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so you're saying delaneyira is a psycho because he has opinions?

phishmann starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 11:29AM
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would you write a book on jambase?

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 11:45AM
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Hey phishmann, thats because you dont even know how to read. See what I mean. Nothing but ridicule. Thats all people have. Ridicule. Hes saying he didnt read my post(when he probably did) so he can get off the hook for not being able to respond or rebutt anything I said. Thats right moron, try again. Call me a hipocrite phishmmann, i know thats your next comment. Well guess what, im not a hipocrite, i ridiculed you for being an asshole. You ridiculed me for being a person. Your not fooling anyone buddy...

rivertrance420 star Mon 2/4/2008 11:55AM
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Its sad that people like Bobby, Phil, and Mickey Hart would endorse such a fake like Obama. He is CFR affiliated, and is a globalist who wants USA, Canada, and Mexico to become one new nation with new government. Did I mention he supports the national id card. Screw Obama, vote Ron Paul for a free United States. Real Deadheads for Paul

phishmann starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 11:56AM
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im glad you have it all figured out, must be nice. i gonna vote for you,delaneyria for president. im am going to write you in.YANK! YANK!this has been fun.

Astronaut Jones Mon 2/4/2008 11:56AM
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delaneyira--so what do we do then as slaves other than being better informed to remedy the situation? i don't mean how many articles or websites can we quote. what do we actually DO about it? i'm neither for nor against your opinions or whatever, i just would like for someone who is obviously knowledgeable about politics to not be a politician and tell me how to fix it. "I wanna lower taxes!!" "I wanna fix healthcare!" "I wanna end the war!" Great! So do I. How? ACTUALLY HOW??

akeay starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 12:30PM
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First off, I would like to point out that I heard this show sold out in five minutes! That's insane.

Okay, secondly, for all you Ron Paul fans: take both of these surveys and find out how closely matched you are to Ron Paul's actual policy views.

http://www.electoralcompass.com/

http://glassbooth.org/

He may have good intentions, but vote on policy, not on what Alex Jones tells you to do.

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 12:42PM
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just-joshin', I knnow how you feel. Well like you said the first thing we all need to do is stop giving people crap for expresing thier opinions. One exercise you can try is, when someone starts talking politics, war, healthcare, president, and they say something that you dont like, say something. This takes time to really know how to do. You actually have to read things and pay attention. There are things out there that can help you get a grasp on this stuff fast, the infowars website, documentaries like "freedome to fascism", "loose change", "money as debt", "endgame". Alot of the stuff your going to see in these movies will sound bananas. So you should always follow up. For example, in loose change there is a scientist who goes on to explain the issues with the official 911 story. Youll see his case is pretty convincing. But dont take his word on it. Look him up on wikipedia. Make sure that guy who says that stuff really knows what hes talking about. I have watched those docs and many others and i have found that 99% of the stuff checks out 100%. And there are other things you can do too. You have to vote! Now ill be the first person to kick and scream about election fraud. It happends, its documented(go on youtube and search bev harris and youll know that it is documented) but if we dont get a larger segment of the population to vote they will always be able to cover up the fraud because citizens that dont vote provide cover for the media when the exit polls are off by over 20%. But honestly the most important work everyone needs to do is at the dinner table. I know you might think this is insignificant but you have to do it. The most important social unit you will ever be involved with is your family. Sorry for the folks who have broken homes. Its not your fault. So since the family is the most powerful social unit you should think of your family as a vehicle for your values. So if your family is dislocated and uninformed your driving a mo-ped. But if you can educate your family to the point where they all understand this stuff you will be driving a Peterbilt 18wheel dump truck. And that is much more dificult to derail than your little bitch ass moped. So from there you move on into your community, with the support of your family, and start explaining this stuff to your friends. I must add a caveat to all this. You cant jump on them with this info or you will be disregarded as being over zealous. Just start picking away at stuff. You might be watching tv with your friends and you see a commercial for phizer or merc or GSK, well thats a great opportunity to mention how horrible mercury in the vacines are. So get creative with your social situation. One thing you have to understand too is, you have to really understand this stuff. The best way to understand something F'ed up that happening today is to look into the history of it. For example, when people talk about floride in the water most people think its great. Since its in the drinking water, the whole society will have better teeth. Then you hear people saying "its bad for you, it causes brain damage over time along with other health problems" Most people will immediately go, "oh, here come the kooks with thier crazy conspiricy theories" Well, dont do that, dont just be dismisive of everthing. Because if you actually looked into the history of floridated water you would find out that the first time it was used was in the NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS!! AND SOVIET GULAGS!! to dumb the prisoners down and be more subservient. How are you going to understand just how horrible floride is if you immediately dismissed these ppl as kooks and dont look into the claim? So, you want lower taxes and to end the war. Well, to learn how to tell which candidate is full of crap make a chart. Take the most important issues and make 3 columns. First column, agree with your position on the issue, second column disagrees with you on the issue, column 3 is where you put thier public record to the test. For example, line one issue - war in IRAQ. Column 1 - agrees we need to end the war. so check column 1. move to column 3 and check thier record.(are they a congressman(most candidates are) did they vote yes to war? did they vote to fund the war? after the war went bad did they tell the truth about thier support for the war? do they continue to fund the war with new bills in congress?) I did this kind of analasis with ron paul and here is what i came up with. Ron paul did not vote for the war, he has never voted to fund the war, he continues to criticize those who voted for the war and the funding thereof, he promises to withdraw all troops from foriegn soil. And here is the most important conclusion of the analisys, In the 20+ years ron paul has been a congressman he has never voted to raise taxes, he has never voted to take part in a war, he has proposed bills to audit the federal reserve, he has proposed the abolition of the unconstituitional income tax on a number if occassions, and he has stood up to the most rabbid character assasinations from the mainstream media and mainstream candidates and he still wins his congressional seat and he still stands fast in his voting in the congress and has not waivered on his stance on the issues. But dont believe me check him out. Someone commented in this thread that "if you take one look at ron pauls website you would see that he is an ultra religious type, and he would overturn roe v wade." Well go to his site and you wont find anythign that would indicate this. Yes paul has stated he does not support roe v wade, and if it were his decision he would never have supported abortion. But he will then continue in the same breath to explain that he is not a supreme court justice and therefore does not have the authority to overturn roe v wade. Hes a OBGYN, he delivers babies for a living, obviously hes not going to support abortion. But he believes in the constituitional separation of powers within the 3 branches of govt(checks and balances) so much that he would never breach the separation of church and state on this issue. But ask yourself, is this single issue important enough to disregard a candidate? Dont ally yourself with a single issue. Take a stand on all the issues and tally up the score. Who supports most of your positions? Is keeping abortion legal as important as stopping the wars that are destroying our countries economy and murdering millions of iraqis? I dont think so, and if you do, youv got a damn screw loose. The fact of the matter is people in the future are not going to remember america as that horrible country that allowed people to have abortions, they are going to remember the dictator george bush and his country of slaves who allowed themselves to be used in a geo-politico-economic genocide the likes of which the world hasnt seen since hitler-pol pot-stalin. Thats right folks. We have been commiting genocide. Whether we think it was for a good reason or not at least a million iraqis have dies because of this. More than half were children. Explain to me how this is not genocide? So if you want to make a difference, grow up, learn, and take part in the political discourse. "i dont talk about politics" - this phrase, as crazy as this sounds, could be responsible for the destruction of our species.

Astronaut Jones Mon 2/4/2008 01:02PM
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two further comments: (1) i'm with you to a point on getting people to vote. personally and quite frankly i feel that you shouldn't vote if you're not informed on your candidate. voting for someone b/c you actually saw their name on MTV or something isn't a reason to vote. to all the uninformed: please. by all means. stay at home. (2)and everyone (me included) does not even remotely discount the positive effects of family life around the dinner table.

Astronaut Jones Mon 2/4/2008 01:03PM
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but maybe we should take this up in the forums section and give way to talk of the Dead on this article's comments section.

moejoerisin Mon 2/4/2008 01:21PM
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...go phil!

OaksterDan star Mon 2/4/2008 01:26PM
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And people wonder why your not supposed to talk about politics & religion in public. Because people can't act rational when discussing these issues. They get all effing crazy if you don't agree with them and alot of these comments prove that point. I'm going to CONCERT tonight not a FUNDRAISER! I APPROVE THIS COMMENT!

OaksterDan Mon 2/4/2008 01:31PM
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Why is nobody writing about how happy they are to see Phil, Bobby & Mickey reunite maybe for last time in their lives and ours!

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 01:32PM
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That it H.B. Woodrose. Be real nice to these people who call us crazy for explaining things. Would you be polite if you were at a political rally and a police officer smashed your mother in the face with a bat? Stop being so god damn nice about this stuff. Dont let people who want to be ignorant off the hook. Im not saying punch them in the face but if they are going to be actively ignorant you should ridicule them for it. You know when someone makes fun of my haircut when i walk down the street no one says anythign but if i make fun of someone for being a complete ignorant moron everyone is like "hey man, why you gotta say that. Your being a dick!" So its ok to ridicule people as long as theres no substance to your ridicule? BOLLOX to that. H.B. Woodrose, you dont appear to have any faith in representative govt. In response to my call for people to only vote for people if they will go on record saying they will fight the federal reserve and the CFR you say "Do you really envision that EVER happening under ANY circumstance?" Well, the answer to that question is, YES!! I do expect those who are responsible for a policy of mass murder to be brought to justice, i do expect people to stand up and demand that the constituition is upheld, i do believe that govt should be restricted as much as possible. Do you believe any of these philosophies? They are uniquely american. Because its what our founding fathers intended for us to be free and independant. And they knew and understood that govt is inherently restrictive. And therefore anything they did was inherently restrictive. So they decided that the safest philosophy would be self governance. They then drafted a document that would read as a recipe for a free society. They first and foremost decreed that people are free to think and express themselves. More than just free speech. The second thing they did was give people the right to defend themselves from govt oppression by creating the second amendment and the next thign they did was make sure that our privacy would never be violated. The point of that was to make sure that the govt would never be able to hold an information ASYMETRY over the people. Even back in those days they understood how powerful a weapon information was. Today its even more powerful. Thats why the rulers of the modern world have setup the most seamless mass media propoganda system ever. So in this context, the more freedom and liberty people have, the safer a society is. They knew that if people were free from all but the most obvious forms of restriction(no murder, stealing, ect), over time human nature in its purest form would express itself. Now this might sound a little idealistic and ill admit it is. But do the math, doesnt it make perfect sense? I dont feel that humans are inherently evil. I think the bad/evil person is an extremely small minority who in a free society would stick out like a sore thumb. Only in a closed society could an asshole be accepted. Because the govt would force you to accept the asshole.

Patrick3 starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 01:35PM
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 01:37PM
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just-joshin', Bundis-Dan, normally i wouldnt post more than 2wice in a thread that had nothign to do with politics but this is a fundraiser for barak obama, making it a political announcement therefore making it perfectly legitimate to throw out some political talk... once again, nice try... I love the music of the dead, even if bobby is a bohemian grover. He never was the smartest one. Great charisma, awesome rythem and vocals.

stoops Mon 2/4/2008 02:55PM
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delanayira- a theory is accepted until data disproves it- true. what does that say about my theory that your an ego driven, pretenda-political blowhard with a superficiality complex? in the case of convicting conspirators (which you seem to contend the cfr is composed of), the standard of PROOF is beyond a reasonable doubt. your so not even close, you should probably go back to theorizing. how about you name some living members of the cfr and tell us what they are guilty of? tell us what, specifically, those individuals have done to conspire against the american people?

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 03:29PM
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ok stoops here it goes, Richard Cheney. Guilty of treason against the united states of america. Evidence: He was a member of the CFR(there is no doubt i mean he talks about him being the director), the CFR states in its own policy papers that its goal is to erode national soverignty to promote unrestricted trade. The CFR under cheneys guidance promoted the policy of pre-emptive war which is inherently against what the constituition and the founding fathers intended, friendly trade with all nations and entangling allainces with none. He became vice president through a fradulent election. His office produced caging lists which got african american and us military voters scrubed off the voting rolls. This is illegal because it targeted specific groups. His office was responsible for the outing of a cia agent(valery "plame" wilson) who was behind enemy lines for political reasons. (she was teh one who exposed that the suposed yellow cake story from Niger to iraq was a complete fraud and there was absolutely no evidence to support that claim, yet the claim still found its way into the presidents state of the union address weeks after the fraud was exposed) He is responsible of the looting of the wealth of america by means of a fradulent war. He stated that his secret evidence was a "slam dunk" on meet the press with tim russert. This secret evidence was a fraud, and you cant deny that either, we still havent found any WMD. He lied to america by saying that al-queda under the guidance of osama bin laden was responsible for 911. This couldnt be more false. Osama bin laden was a CIA agent in the war against the soviet union in afghanistan. You might ask how he became and agent. Well, lets use historical context to vett this claim. The cia was started by averill herriman and prescott bush. Bush was the director of teh CIA in the 70s and 80s. Bush was also in business with salem bin laden, osama's father. This is how osama became the cia agent who headed the mujahadin and kicked out the soviet union from afghanistan. Now they claim that after that osama turned on the US yet the bushes and the bin ladens are still in business. Sketchy? So the claim that alqueda was in iraq before the invasion is a bald face lie. Hussein was a secular dictator who dispised feverent religion. He suppressed religious sentiments all through his riegn until the very end when it supported his cause. But there is no way that he wouldve accepted alqueda into iraq considering osama stated that sadamm husein was his #2 enemy. So the terrorism excuse is vaporized. Now lets get back to weapons of mass destruction. It is documented fact that saddam got his weapons from the US. You can watch the meeting of don rumsfeld and saddam husein on youtube from the late 70's or early 80's not sure when exactly but it was around then. They were given to him specifically to use against the iranians who were at war with iraq. When the war ended the kurds wanted a independant country and saddam procedded to gas the kurds. So the US knew he had them in the early 90's because we gave them to him. So the UN went in and destroyed them all. We knew they were all gone. Yet, cheney and his administration continued to claim WMD. So here we are in 2008, 4000 americans dead, 1.5million iraqis dead, mostly children, 500billion$ dollars down the drain, a country in debt to communist china, in a serios recession that in a couple weeks will become a serious depression. So yes, cheney, CFR member stands guilty of treason. Nothing less than the destruction of the greatest economy on earth. Another count of treason should be brought against hitlery clinton, another admited CFR member. She is guilty of colluding with the enemy of the united states, richard cheney. She was a member of the policy group, the council on foriegn relations. The same group that cheney headed in the 80s and 90s. The same group who calls for the destruction of national soverignty. She has voted for the war in iraq, she has voted to fund the war in iraq, she voted for the patriot act, and the military commissions act. She has done nothing to stand up and protect the constituition which is her sworn duty. I can keep going. But ill stop here. I have written a few pages over the course of today and i have put out tons of information. Why dont you try to disproove something i said. I just proved to you that cheney is a traitor and guilty of treason. I dont need to prove that they are members of teh CFR, you can just google "cheney CFR" and "hilery CFR" and watch the speeches that they give at thier meetings. It was on Cspan. So look. Do some of your own research. This is why i have nothing but contempt for people like you stoops, you are so uninformed that you can be this confident. The most important thing to know is that there is an infinite amount of info that you dont know. It is something that i tell myself on a daily basis. It keeps a person skeptical. And like i said. Dont beleive me. Look this stuff up. But on the same hand dont just go and dismiss this stuff, i mean look at what these people have done to our country. Go into a train station and count the cameras. I got nothing against security cams in certain places. But when i go into a train station and count 97 cameras in a single room, im sorry something is wrong here. When i turn on the tube and see "the death toll is at least a million dead iraqis" something is wrong here. When i turn on the news and they say the economy isnt hurting that bad and i read reports that the federal reserve has cut interest rates by 150 basis points and inflation is through the roof, when i see gas prices soaring, when i see the cost of grain going up, when i see floride in our water and mercury in our vaccines. Honestly, what do you ahve to say about the mercury in our vaccines? Do you have a comment on the FACT that the nazi's use floride in the water to dumb down prisoners? Im not going to do a bibliography for you. Its time to start paying attention...

DirtyRice starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 03:54PM
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delanayira- wikipedia is a neat website but it is not scholarly research, meaning you cant trust the material as you can change and modify it to say whatever you want about the subject. im sure alot is true but it should not be relied upon for the truth about anything. I assume you are a reader of Jim Marrs though. Mr. Marrs wrote a fantastic book a few years back called Rule By Secrecy and if there was one book that should be made into a killer mini series, Rule by Secrecy should be it! He also wrote another interesting read about 9/11 called Inside Job. Wiki it!

I hope all of us slaves are registered to vote! Nice story Jambase! Spread the awareness through the Dead!

stoops Mon 2/4/2008 04:50PM
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ok, so hillary and cheney, huh? well folks, mr.delirious has uncovered the biggest two person conspiracy in the history of man kind. it's funny, given such a notable achievement, i'm surprised none of us have even heard of you before today on jambase.

with such an open and shut case for the charge of treason, i'ld imagine it will be no time at all before our vice president is convicted then. now all you have to do is go to law school, get a job as federal prosecutor, select a jury, present your evidence, and be able to convince them all that this is evidence is PROOF beyond a reasonable doubt. what's that you say, the justice department agrees with my previously stated theory about wingnuts like you so charges won't be pursued. well that explains why you and other off the handle nutbags are commonly dismissed. shouldn't you be off trying to prove who conspired to cause 9/11, since you've already "vaporized terrorism"? see the problem with radicals like you is that your mouth runs too quickly and your mind can't keep up. i love how you expect people who visit this site for music to believe that you can uncover the evidence to "prove that the vice preisdent is guilty of treason" but that the justice department doesn't pursue the case. who is involved in the conspiracy over there then? can you give us some more youtube videos as evidence?

then there's hillary; ok. so what your saying is that she got together with dick cheney and they secretly agreed that they were going to fight the iraq war to make money for themselves and then they tricked the whole world into letting it happen. any proof of that? no, dipshit; i was kidding about youtube being legit. besides, saying that these two conspireed to get people killed for money is quite different from saying they both are members of the cfr.

by your logic every member of congress that voted for the authorization to use military action, permit funding for the iraq occupation, or dealt with dick cheney is guilty of treason. i suppose we should prosecute the bush twins too cause how could they not be "in the circle of trust"? are you seriously advocating for the prosecution of every member of the cfr for conspiracy to commit treason? i bet all the members have drivers licenses too, so should we go ahead and indict the dmv in every state?

what should i research? about what am i uninformed? i agree that there's tons i don't know but you've enlightened me about zero of it today with your extremely long-winded chapter about what you THINK is the case. i agree a healthy skepticism is good, hence my outright dissmissal of your bullshit! while you have "contempt" for me, i pitty you!

i know all about "these people", the cfr, and floride. my comment on mercury filled vaccinations, if you don't want to get your shots, don't fuckin get em. as for your attempt to "dumb down" this thread back to the holocaust, you may want to look into godwins rule before you further falsely attempt to vilify an organization of some of the most widely respected americans in the world. thanks for skipping the bibliography; that antagonistic jerk off gesture i made the whole while reading the book you wrote for jambase was starting to hurt my wrist and i'm afraid one more page may break it. i am "paying attention" and anyone else that has been will laugh at your baseless accusations, wonder how many times you must have watched the matrix, and then dissmiss your out of hand stupidity.

Matthew Jaworski starstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 05:35PM
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Matthew Jaworski

GIANTS ARE SUPERBOWL CHAMPS!!!

Wait, am I on the right board?

MaseBase starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 05:42PM
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Doods... how fun is this gonna be!? Watch it on iClips

alw7 Mon 2/4/2008 06:39PM
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Perhaps by the Dead backing a politician,the positive will be healthy discourse about the issues and pushing people to do a little resaerch for themselves,rather than following what others say,or who they endorse.Agree or not, what I see on this thread is a healthy,thought provoking conversation and should make people want to find out the facts and make their own choices.Don't be sheep.

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 06:58PM
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All you did right there stoops was ridicule and label. You still didnt address the fact that cheney and hitlery are both members of the same PRIVATE policy planning group yet are supposedly in different political parties? So the policy is the same but the POLITICAL parties are different? Do you know how rediculous you sound? They go to war, lie to us, steal all our money with taxes, borrow billions from communist china on our behalf, fund a military dictator(musharaf) who overthrew a democratically elected govt, borrow and print more billions to escalate the war that was based on lies, destroy our economy, allow unrestricted immigration, take away our right to habeus corpus, how much more do i have to say? Why do you still support cheney, hilary and the CFR? Cmon man, no one is buying your BS. You cant touch any of this stuff so you just talk trash. Why didnt you dispute the claim that brown brother herriman and prescott bush were funding the nazis? Why didnt you touch the creation of the CFR by the robber barrons(carnagie, rockerfeller, rothschild, warburg)after world war I because we wouldnt join the league of nations? Why dont we discuss major smedley butler? The guy who exposed the fascist coup by those same robber barons. No we dont talk about that, were here just to make fun, ridicule and try to discredit. Sorry bud, no one is buying it. Plain and simple if you take even a small gander at these claims you will find they are all documented and demonstratable. Here, a david rockefeller quote addressing the tri-lateral-commission, david rockefeller is or was the chairman of the council on foreign relations for a long time. here is what he said in 1991 to the trilateral commission, a world government think tank - "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991." - read that quote and understand what it is saying "The supranational soverignty(above the law of a nation) of an intelectual elite and world bankers is preferable(better) than the national autodetermination(democracy and representative govt) practiced in past centuries. Ok slick, lets see you ridicule your way out of this one. Perhaps you can use your orwellian double speak to interpret that quote differently. What he is saying is that he wants to see world government that is not elected by the people but by and intelectual elite and bankers. Hey Stoops, how do you feel about the destruction of your own country, while at the same time having a bunch of greedy bankers telling you what your going to know and what your going to do for a job so that you benefit thier economy the best? See why i use the word slave? Its because thats exactly what these people have in mind, the rockefellers, the bush's, brezinsky, henry kissinger, cheney, rumsfeld, the rothschild banking dynasty of europe. A form of slavery that was so pervasive that it was almost invisible.

delaneyira star Mon 2/4/2008 06:59PM
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All you did right there stoops was ridicule and label. You still didnt address the fact that cheney and hitlery are both members of the same PRIVATE policy planning group yet are supposedly in different political parties? So the policy is the same but the POLITICAL parties are different? Do you know how rediculous you sound? They go to war, lie to us, steal all our money with taxes, borrow billions from communist china on our behalf, fund a military dictator(musharaf) who overthrew a democratically elected govt, borrow and print more billions to escalate the war that was based on lies, destroy our economy, allow unrestricted immigration, take away our right to habeus corpus, how much more do i have to say? Why do you still support cheney, hilary and the CFR? Cmon man, no one is buying your BS. You cant touch any of this stuff so you just talk trash. Why didnt you dispute the claim that brown brother herriman and prescott bush were funding the nazis? Why didnt you touch the creation of the CFR by the robber barrons(carnagie, rockerfeller, rothschild, warburg)after world war I because we wouldnt join the league of nations? Why dont we discuss major smedley butler? The guy who exposed the fascist coup by those same robber barons. No we dont talk about that, were here just to make fun, ridicule and try to discredit. Sorry bud, no one is buying it. Plain and simple if you take even a small gander at these claims you will find they are all documented and demonstratable. Here, a david rockefeller quote addressing the tri-lateral-commission, david rockefeller is or was the chairman of the council on foreign relations for a long time. here is what he said in 1991 to the trilateral commission, a world government think tank - "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991." - read that quote and understand what it is saying "The supranational soverignty(above the law of a nation) of an intelectual elite and world bankers is preferable(better) than the national autodetermination(democracy and representative govt) practiced in past centuries. Ok slick, lets see you ridicule your way out of this one. Perhaps you can use your orwellian double speak to interpret that quote differently. What he is saying is that he wants to see world government that is not elected by the people but by and intelectual elite and bankers. Hey Stoops, how do you feel about the destruction of your own country, while at the same time having a bunch of greedy bankers telling you what your going to know and what your going to do for a job so that you benefit thier economy the best? See why i use the word slave? Its because thats exactly what these people have in mind, the rockefellers, the bush's, brezinsky, henry kissinger, cheney, rumsfeld, the rothschild banking dynasty of europe. A form of slavery that was so pervasive that it was almost invisible.

deadheadjohnny Mon 2/4/2008 07:20PM
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does anyone actually read all of what Delaneyira says.

danpfunk Mon 2/4/2008 07:56PM
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We interrupt this political commentary for a question about the music....iclips seems toast to me, I can't get on. Anyone watching and/or having problems like me?

tuna1 starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 07:56PM
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The page is too busy, i have been trying to get on iclips for about 30 min. They should have known the viewing was going to be heavy. iCLIPS SUCKS!!!!!!!!

jamtheman Mon 2/4/2008 07:57PM
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Ive read what most of delaneyira has said but not all of it. i completely agree with what he says.

but has anyone been able to get onto the iclips.net site? having trouble getting onto it.

tuna1 starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 07:59PM
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The page is too busy, i have been trying to get on iclips for about 30 min. They should have known the viewing was going to be heavy. iCLIPS SUCKS!!!!!!!!

danpfunk Mon 2/4/2008 08:00PM
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We interrupt this political commentary for a question about the music....iclips seems toast to me, I can't get on. Anyone watching and/or having problems like me?

trini. starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 08:06PM
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trini.

I've been connected for 45 min or so. Saw the press interviews, now nothing.

rjd999 Mon 2/4/2008 08:09PM
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http://iclips-live-1.wm.llnwd.net/iclips_live_1

hey all, try that link, it seems to have been getting mad heads up and running. to my knowledge, they are still yet to start, and it is approximately 11:08 eastern time. phil, mickey, and bobby finished their press conference at about 10:28 est, so they probably are still getting ready for it all. hope that link helps!!

trini. starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 08:13PM
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trini.

I've been connected for 45 min or so. Saw the press interviews, now nothing.

androckguitar Mon 2/4/2008 08:25PM
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rjd999,

thanks for the link...i couldn't connect through the network..

i don't see anything yet except for the iclips logo, but i think its because they haven't started yet.

Doug starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 08:48PM
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that link worked... kindof... i cant tell if they are tripping out on stage or if my connection is tripping out....BROWN EYED WOMEN....this rocks

Doug starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 08:48PM
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that link worked... kindof... i cant tell if they are tripping out on stage or if my connection is tripping out....BROWN EYED WOMEN....this rocks

EricTW83 starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 09:08PM
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I'm stoked the DEAD are playing too, but lets keep in mind what this is all about...DON"T FORGET TO VOTE!!!!!!

vwphan Mon 2/4/2008 09:47PM
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I love Phil, Bobby, Micky and the rest as much as anyone, but VOTE on your personal beliefs, not what media, rock stars, parents, friends, media tell you! www.selectsmart.com Unbiased website that pairs your interests with candidate that most closely agrees with you. Don't want to toot my own horn, but I really can't see a more logical way to advise people before heading to the polls.

AVANTGUARD starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 10:11PM
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AVANTGUARD

Bark, bark, CFR. Yip, yip, Cheney and Clinton. Yap, yap, Project for the New American Century, Bush Nazis, Rockefellers and Rothchilds. Yip, yap, Illuminati, Masons, Catholic Church, Roscrotums, Skull and Roses. 8^D Have some coke and a smile. Play dead!

Doug Mon 2/4/2008 10:33PM
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i voted for hillary but love obama. it's a tough one but I think they both add significant value over current circumstances.... peace....china cat... later

AVANTGUARD starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 10:35PM
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AVANTGUARD

Bark, bark, CFR. Yip, yip, Cheney and Clinton. Yap, yap, Project for the New American Century, Bush Nazis, Rockefellers and Rothchilds. Yip, yap, Illuminati, Masons, Catholic Church, Roscrotums, Skull and Roses. 8^D Have some coke and a smile. Play dead!

Doug Mon 2/4/2008 10:43PM
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i voted for hillary but love obama. it's a tough one but I think they both add significant value over current circumstances.... peace....china cat... later

hiddentreasure starstarstarstarstar Mon 2/4/2008 11:08PM
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I love Barack! He's going to be a great VP.

stoops Mon 2/4/2008 11:22PM
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buddy-your posts aren't worty of much more than ridicule but i'll humor you once and for all. i concede that hillary and cheney are both a part of the big bad cfr. they are not from "supposedly" different political parties. they are from clearly defined differnt political parties, with drastically different agendas. neither one of them, independently nor as an indictable duo, hold the exclusive rights to why we are at war, lying to the public, taxing the public, borrowing nor funding internationally, destroying the economy (this isn't even the case), allowing illegal immigration, or suspending habeus corpus for americans(i've seen no evidence of this either). i don't actively support hillary, cheney, or the cfr, but on the flipside i'm not throwing paranoid accusations at them either. as for bs, i think your the one needs the shit shovel kid.

i'm not trash talking; i'm calling you on your unsubstantiated babble. i'm still not even sure how all these issues/historical events are proof of a clinton/cheney conspiracy but when idiots ramble, shit just often flows freely.

if you want to accuse prescott bush of some malicious crime, go ahead. you do know that the banking with german investors, even those who were supporting nazis, was not illegal prior to 1941. you are also aware that thyssen, bush's subhuman co-conspirator, had fled germany and was bitterly denouncing hitler as of 1939 and was jailed and sent to a concentration camp by hitler a short time later? are you suggesting that our federal prosecutors should investigate a guy that has been dead 35 years? or are you just continuing to perpetuate falsehoods about bush family conspiracies?

on to what obviously equates to a paper tiger, the league of nations. tell us all where the league is today oh conspiracy geenie. does your crystal ball tell you that the league has essentially become the united nations, which america has joined? perhaps our government leaders suspected that the lack of an international fighting force would inadvertently create a need for the u s to police the globe. besides, you suggesting that the cfr shouldn't have been established is kind of like saying that you would have supported american membership in the league. that would further imply that, at least post world war 1, you would have wanted america to be involved in global disarmament, preventing war through collective security, settling disputes between countries through negotiation, diplomacy and improving international welfare, which sounds fretfully like the globalized view of the cfr. your a stupid fuckin hypocrite.

since you insisted we can delve deep into the legend that is major butler. please enlighten us all about the original kerry's contributions that are so great that noone remembers him... what does the swami of shit say about the highly decorated but "unreliable" war hero turned communist? after disgruntly retiring from the marine corp as a result of being passed over for the prestigious rank of commandant, he blew the whistle on a coup that was never investigated. and then said facist coup went on to have such a drastic impact because it never happened. did you wanna cook up anything else for us on this one shit-talker-betty-crocker?

i totally agree; all of these things "are documented and demonstrable." conversely, i think what noone is buying is the shit your selling. you distort facts more disingenuously than any politician i've ever seen. thanks for the lesson on david rockafeller. yes, like most of his prominent family, he is a globalist, or champions globalization. as for the quote, i submit one can take what they may from it. you want to believe that this man conspires to keep you and all of america victims and "slaves". i tend to dispute your unfounded defeatest victimology, so i brake it down like this:

"The supranational sovereignty (above the law of a nation; we agree)of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination(manifest destiny, colonization, war, and other historically used methods of acquiring rule of law) practiced in past centuries." you didn't argue against what he said; you either misinterpreted it or you falsely spun it. could it be that mr. rockafeller is advocating for a a more integrated geopolitical and economic structure" and isn't actually talking about how politicians come to office at all? perhaps one where american principles like human rights, free trade, and basic rule of law are respected? no it couldn't be, because that doesn't quite fit into the "non-disproven" conspiracy theories of the jambase genius. the more i read the quote, the more i'm certain that's what he was saying. that isn't orwellian double speak; there's nothing slick about it. i just am not as likely as you to believe that a 100 year old(literally) billionaire/philanthropist is so greedy that he would conspire, to the detriment of mankind, to make some more money. after all, this guy has given away more cash this week than you will make in your life.

well asshole, i'm not thrilled about the "destruction of my country"; maybe fuckwits like you could just get on board with basic truths like 9/11 was perpetrated by terrorists that admitted their crimes. most of the world knows it to be true, but i suppose we should all just suspend reality long enough to drink your horse shit flavored kool-aide. the way i figure, it just requires a bit of motivation and genuine "belef in the goodness of man" to improve things... and unlike you i find all sorts of positive things not only about life, but about america(both past and present), it's people, and it's government. it may not be such a popular sentiment on this forum, but i even think there are lots of things in all of the above contexts that are better than they've ever been anywhere in the world. noone tells me "what to know" and noone "tells me what job to do", and if you aren't full of shit you could name the individual who does this to you. oh we know,we know, it's cheney and "hitlery" and the proof is on youtube. you are a fuckin slave, to your own feeble mind. "a form of slavery so pervasive it was almost invisible". haaa, ok i'll play along; give me the blue pill morpheus!

cocheese Tue 2/5/2008 06:17AM
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i don't like it.

BlowsAgainsttheEmpire Tue 2/5/2008 07:02AM
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from billy k's myspace page:

Bill Kreutzmann is resting after playing 7 nights in a row and sends his blessing to the Warfield Theatre and the deadheads for Obama event.

delaneyira star Tue 2/5/2008 07:24AM
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Are you listening to yourself? Your saying that a man whom we both agree described himself as above the law actually respects the rule of law? That is a complete contradiction. Or what is described as orwellian double speak. And you are completely misrepresenting what "national auto determination" means. It means the people of the nation automatically have the right to have a government that represents themselves and the best way to do that according to our founding fathers was a constituitionalist republic. But lets not digress, lets go over what that quote means again. Its saying that the rule of an oligarchical elite, which is the same as a monarchy except its not about bloodlines its about organizational hierachy, is preferable to a democratically elected representative govt. Let me ask, why are you putting all those words in my mouth. What do you believe in? Do you believe in world govt? Do you believe that we should be ruled by a self described intelectual elite that isnt elected. Do you appreciate the govt using fear to get people to support things? Do you appreciate the collusion of govt and corporations? Do you approve of secret meetings like the bilderberg group or the northcom meeting in Bamph springs canada? The only reason that we know about that meeting in bamph is because someone who was there blew the whistle and filed a freedom of information act. Whatever happened to transparent govt? Govt of the people? Your whole rebuttle relies on the ignorance of the other readers. Well guess what, take a look, more people agree with me on these issues. Your wrong, they are not ignorant. We do not live in a free country. Everyone has realized this. Walk down the streets and there are cameras everywhere. There are more cops now then ever. They are more violent than ever. Have you been readin about all the people accross the country getting tazed left and right? Did you see the vid of the woman who got tazed next to her daughter for asking why she was pulled over? You are so enamoured by the propaganda that you dont even know whats real and whats false. Are you one of those assholes who thinks we actually found WMD in iraq? Are you one of those people who think we need to give up liberty to be safe? Honestly, do you have any intergrity whatsoever? You dont find it at all suspicious that hitlary and cheney are both members of the same policy planning group that promoted the iraq war? You dont find it at all suspicious when mainstream news smears ron paul? They dont even report when he wins louisiana. The didnt even report his second place finnish in nevada. You dont find that at all suspicious? You dont think it has anything to do with his disdain for groups like the CFR, bilderberg, trilateral commission? You dont think it has anything to do with his disdain for the federal reserve? Lets talk about the federal reserve because you dispute the fact that we are in a recession and that our economy has been destroyed. The federal reserve is a PRIVATE group of bankers that LOANS money to the federal govt at INTEREST. The federal govt then collects TAXES to pay the DEBT to the PRIVATE federal reserve. The war has cost 500billion dollars. Where do you think that money came from? It came from china, and it came from the federal reserve printing money. What happens when the federal reserve prints huge amounts of paper money? America goes into debt to the federal reserve and communist china. There is inflation of the currency(which means that what 10$ bought before inflation gets you less after inflations) Stuff starts to cost more, and we see this in the price of gold, oil and grain, all of which is on the rise except for oil maybe, but i wouldnt expect that to last. In the end who is going to pay the bills? You and me. WE The people who pay taxes. So when we go to work that 30%+ that we pay in taxes goes to pay for this nonsense. Hell lets talk about where the fed came from in the first place. All documented. The federal reserve was created in the early part of the 20th century on john rockefellers private island(jeckyl island off the coast of georgia) It was written by the robber barron globalist bankers(rothschild, rockefeler, warburg, carnegie, herriman), NOT elected officials. The federal reserve act was enacted on december 23rd(thats right, that close to christmas when most congressmen were at home with thier families) This created the federal reserve note, NOT redeamable in gold. What happened after that was a huge depression. When the money became inflated and therefore worthless, people started bartering in gold. Guess what the treasonous govt did after that. On April 5, 1933, president roosevelt who was a theybian socialist, signed Presidential Executive Order 6102 which gave the authority to confiscate all gold coins, bullion and certificates from the american public. Thats right, they took peoples private property. So look buddy, its obviously your not doing your homework because you could not know about this and still think that we live in a free country. A free country is not just a place where you can talk shit and wear whatever you want. A free country is a place where you can be independant financially and intelectually. We clearly do not live under those conditions. Our economy is controled by the federal reserve, who can expand and restrict liquidity with no govt oversight. The control of credit is a weapon, that is why Mayer rothschild said like 300 years ago "Give me control of a nations money and i care not who makes its laws." Read about andrew jackson, he fought against these people. Read thomas jefferson, who wasnt the nicest guy either, but he talks in great length about fiat currency and how the global bankers use it to control huge populations and economies. Bringing this all back to the CFR, look at the people who created the CFR and then look at the traitors who created the federal reserve. The are the same folks. Its the same team working against teh average man today. The CFR is the antithisis of freedom and liberty.

delaneyira star Tue 2/5/2008 07:40AM
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Oh yea asshole, everyone in the world agrees that 911 went according to the official story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH1UA3ijXug - check that link out. That is the japanese parlement. The speaker is the leader of the japanese democratic party. He has serious quesitons about the official story of 911 and he doesnt get a single acceptable answer out of the officials who support the official story. So look dumbass, crawl out of your cave and start looking around. University professors in the fields of structural engineering, physics, meterials sciences, building demolitions have been coming out in droves to dispute the official story. Watch, it shouldnt be long now before it becomes a serious issue. People arent buying the official story. building 7 was not hit by a plane, it was barely damaged. The structural integrity was in the central columns near the elevator shafts, not in the perimiter of the building like the 911 commision claims. Larry silverstein who own the WTC is on the record stating that "since there was such a huge loss of life that we decided to PULL IT!!!!" You are a complete jackass. Or how about you go on youtube and look up the BBC report where they talk about the collapse of building 7 before it even collapses. Get your fingers out of your ears you coward and take a look. Lets talk about what people around the world think of us americans. Go to japan and they will describe american society as a slave society. Ive been to ireland and they describe us as children playing in sandbox. Go over there and you wont find anyone who trusts thier govt. Not in england, france, spain, germany, japan. In japan its been exposed that the Yakuza gang has high level representatives actually in high level govt positions and that the japanese freemasons are the intermediaries between the yakuza and thier tratorous govt officials. Are you still covering your ears like a 5 year old in the sandbox? Or are you watching fox news?

nuke_ticketbastard starstarstar Tue 2/5/2008 08:31AM
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i do not believe that anyone can convince me that any person who rises to a level in politics which allows them to be a viable candidate for presidency is in it for the good of the people , even folks like ron paul who seems to be saying everything that many people would like to hear is just to good to be true. they all lie . they all cheat. they are all in it for the money. but i still vote .

sunnbear Tue 2/5/2008 08:57AM
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Last nights reunion show was probably unbelievable! I wouldn't know though, because iclips sucks! Everything was out of sync. There were pops and hisses and skips. It was very hard to relax and listen. The poor transmission made for the most uptight show that I've ever seen! Somebody find a good soundboard and let me know how to find it, PLEASE!!!

Ncbrenton starstarstarstarstar Tue 2/5/2008 09:33AM
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Thank you, thank you! This is the biggest event of the last two years. They havent even played the same festival!! So thank you boy's for coming together in honor of not only Barak but mother earth. Someone needs to make a stand!! THERES NOTHIN LEFT TO DO BUT SMILE. SMILE. SMILE.

~LOVE peace, and blessed beauty through the masses! ~*stealy Nealy*~

moejoerisin Tue 2/5/2008 09:33AM
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anyone have a setlist?

sunnbear Tue 2/5/2008 10:14AM
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sunnbear

Obama Concert

02/04/08

The Warfield

San Francisco, CA

Set 1, Electric

Playin in the Band*>

Brown-Eyed Women+

Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo+

New Minglewood Blues+*

Come Together+*

Set 2, Acoustic

Deep Elem Blues>

Friend of the Devil>

Deal>

Ripple#

Set 3, Electric

China Cat Sunflower*>

Jam+*>

The Wheel+*>

The Other One* (with Meaty Phil Bass Intro)>

Sugaree*

Eyes of the World+*

Throwin' Stones+*>

Aiko-Aiko+*>

Playin in the Band+*

Encore:

Phil: Get the Vote Out / Donor Rap>

U.S. Blues+*&

* With Mark Karan, Lead Guitar

+ With Barry Sless, Pedal Steel

# Jackie Greene on Mandolin

& RatDog Crewman Bill Waves Flag Over Band

Band: Weir, Hart, Lesh, Molo, Molitz, Greene

Chrissy1 Tue 2/5/2008 10:15AM
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Obama Concert

02/04/08

The Warfield

San Francisco, CA

Set 1, Electric

Playin in the Band*>

Brown-Eyed Women+

Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo+

New Minglewood Blues+*

Come Together+*

Set 2, Acoustic

Deep Elem Blues>

Friend of the Devil>

Deal>

Ripple#

Set 3, Electric

China Cat Sunflower*>

Jam+*>

The Wheel+*>

The Other One* (with Meaty Phil Bass Intro)>

Sugaree*

Eyes of the World+*

Throwin' Stones+*>

Aiko-Aiko+*>

Playin in the Band+*

Encore:

Phil: Get the Vote Out / Donor Rap>

U.S. Blues+*&

* With Mark Karan, Lead Guitar

+ With Barry Sless, Pedal Steel

# Jackie Greene on Mandolin

& RatDog Crewman Bill Waves Flag Over Band

Band: Weir, Hart, Lesh, Molo, Molitz, Greene

BeePhree starstarstarstar Tue 2/5/2008 10:40AM
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This is my first jambase comment..... delaneyira PLEASE use paragraphs, then I might read what you have to say. I hate eye strain.

philhitz Tue 2/5/2008 11:14AM
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nice setlist!

delaneyira star Tue 2/5/2008 11:24AM
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Sorry BeePhree, ill do that if i rant again. BTW, im sure that show kicked ass, thats a great setlist...

ThePhishPhan Tue 2/5/2008 12:17PM
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ThePhishPhan

That setlist looks tasty, but all for Barrack, Come on now, people seriously want him to win?!? If Barrack has the strength to bring back Bobby and Phil, Then RON PAUL will being back PHISH

ThePhishPhan Tue 2/5/2008 12:19PM
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That setlist looks tasty, but all for Barrack, Come on now, people seriously want him to win?!? If Barrack has the strength to bring back Bobby and Phil, Then RON PAUL will being back PHISH

delaneyira star Tue 2/5/2008 12:48PM
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That would be sick!!! Phish for Paul...

data starstarstarstarstar Tue 2/5/2008 12:51PM
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iclips does suck they did an awful job with jam cruise 6 as well. I listened to it on sirius radio and it sounded great. What happened to at&t blue room.

Colonel Forbin Tue 2/5/2008 01:36PM
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Hopefully I can catch the replay, was sitting around all night last night for the show, then couldn't even get on the site, was sooooo disappointed.

NatiMatty starstarstarstarstar Tue 2/5/2008 01:48PM
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phiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllll!!!!!

jerryg1942 Tue 2/5/2008 02:44PM
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MARK KARAN IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he rocked that shit like always

oldfartatplay Tue 2/5/2008 02:52PM
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oldfartatplay

iclips totally, totally sucks balls, thanks for nothin' there, iclipse.

bigchris starstarstarstarstar Tue 2/5/2008 03:29PM
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great show last night, fun crowd and interesting set. Really liked how Phil, Mickey and Bobby all had speeches for Obama, Phil's was even typed out and at least 10 pages long! They really believe in this guy, which is something to see from the Dead. Show was rockin' especially 1st and 3rd set. Barry Sless was MVP, great playing on the pedal steel.

Hope the guys can bury the hachet for a summer tour or at least a vitory show for Obama in the fall!

PrinceofDANKNESS Tue 2/5/2008 03:56PM
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Jerry is absolutely turning in his grave -- but no suprise with the group he left behind!!!!!

Jenny Jen Tue 2/5/2008 04:28PM
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Jenny Jen

This is a music site right...

Rainking04 Tue 2/5/2008 05:11PM
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Stoops it's hard to see how someone so obviously intelligent can also blind themselves to the truth. You QUOTED rockerfeller on pretty much his most insidious and sinister ideal that defines everything that is moving this country completely in the wrong direction. It's pretty obvious that you understand and clearly see that the interests of the robber-barons and entities like the CFR go hand in hand, and you must also see that they are the ones who are perpetuating the current foreign policy/homeland security/world government which are all moving along at full speed. That being the case, where in god's name do you get the idea that these entities are in any way interested in "global disarmament, preventing war through collective security, settling disputes between countries through negotiation, diplomacy and improving international welfare" you think because that's what it says on their fucking website that it has anything at all to do with reality? I see that you are trying to be positive and I do think it's important, and I agree that Del is being hard on folks by saying we should ridicule them if for the simple fact that once you make someone feel stupid they will NEVER listen to you. I also have a more positive outlook and believe in this country but i believe in it as a democracy, not in somehow accepting the entire world run by the "intellectual elite" as some select group of people. what i think has to happen is that people need to realize that WE are the "intellectual elite" and take control of our own destinies. We ain't doing that right now. Electing Ron Paul would be doing that. Electing anyone else is telling ourselves that we are fine with being ruled and we do not truly value freedom, which comes inherently with the responsibility of understanding our own decisions or it falls apart. I agree with Del on pretty much everything else but i can take solace in the fact, which H.B. mentioned, that the true freedom is within our minds and no matter what government entity I am a part of I can always (without the forced consumption of mind-altering chemical substances, which may not be as far off as we like to hope) think for myself and see the beauty in life, if not the beauty in government systems.

Rainking04 Tue 2/5/2008 05:16PM
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Stoops it's hard to see how someone so obviously intelligent can also blind themselves to the truth. You QUOTED rockerfeller on pretty much his most insidious and sinister ideal that defines everything that is moving this country completely in the wrong direction. It's pretty obvious that you understand and clearly see that the interests of the robber-barons and entities like the CFR go hand in hand, and you must also see that they are the ones who are perpetuating the current foreign policy/homeland security/world government which are all moving along at full speed. That being the case, where in god's name do you get the idea that these entities are in any way interested in "global disarmament, preventing war through collective security, settling disputes between countries through negotiation, diplomacy and improving international welfare" you think because that's what it says on their fucking website that it has anything at all to do with reality? I see that you are trying to be positive and I do think it's important, and I agree that Del is being hard on folks by saying we should ridicule them if for the simple fact that once you make someone feel stupid they will NEVER listen to you. I also have a more positive outlook and believe in this country but i believe in it as a democracy, not in somehow accepting the entire world run by the "intellectual elite" as some select group of people. what i think has to happen is that people need to realize that WE are the "intellectual elite" and take control of our own destinies. We ain't doing that right now. Electing Ron Paul would be doing that. Electing anyone else is telling ourselves that we are fine with being ruled and we do not truly value freedom, which comes inherently with the responsibility of understanding our own decisions or it falls apart. I agree with Del on pretty much everything else but i can take solace in the fact, which H.B. mentioned, that the true freedom is within our minds and no matter what government entity I am a part of I can always (without the forced consumption of mind-altering chemical substances, which may not be as far off as we like to hope) think for myself and see the beauty in life, if not the beauty in government systems.

Rainking04 Tue 2/5/2008 05:17PM
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Stoops it's hard to see how someone so obviously intelligent can also blind themselves to the truth. You QUOTED rockerfeller on pretty much his most insidious and sinister ideal that defines everything that is moving this country completely in the wrong direction. It's pretty obvious that you understand and clearly see that the interests of the robber-barons and entities like the CFR go hand in hand, and you must also see that they are the ones who are perpetuating the current foreign policy/homeland security/world government which are all moving along at full speed. That being the case, where in god's name do you get the idea that these entities are in any way interested in "global disarmament, preventing war through collective security, settling disputes between countries through negotiation, diplomacy and improving international welfare" you think because that's what it says on their fucking website that it has anything at all to do with reality? I see that you are trying to be positive and I do think it's important, and I agree that Del is being hard on folks by saying we should ridicule them if for the simple fact that once you make someone feel stupid they will NEVER listen to you. I also have a more positive outlook and believe in this country but i believe in it as a democracy, not in somehow accepting the entire world run by the "intellectual elite" as some select group of people. what i think has to happen is that people need to realize that WE are the "intellectual elite" and take control of our own destinies. We ain't doing that right now. Electing Ron Paul would be doing that. Electing anyone else is telling ourselves that we are fine with being ruled and we do not truly value freedom, which comes inherently with the responsibility of understanding our own decisions or it falls apart. I agree with Del on pretty much everything else but i can take solace in the fact, which H.B. mentioned, that the true freedom is within our minds and no matter what government entity I am a part of I can always (without the forced consumption of mind-altering chemical substances, which may not be as far off as we like to hope) think for myself and see the beauty in life, if not the beauty in government systems.

Rainking04 Tue 2/5/2008 05:19PM
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Stoops it's hard to see how someone so obviously intelligent can also blind themselves to the truth. You QUOTED rockerfeller on pretty much his most insidious and sinister ideal that defines everything that is moving this country completely in the wrong direction. It's pretty obvious that you understand and clearly see that the interests of the robber-barons and entities like the CFR go hand in hand, and you must also see that they are the ones who are perpetuating the current foreign policy/homeland security/world government which are all moving along at full speed. That being the case, where in god's name do you get the idea that these entities are in any way interested in "global disarmament, preventing war through collective security, settling disputes between countries through negotiation, diplomacy and improving international welfare" you think because that's what it says on their fucking website that it has anything at all to do with reality? I see that you are trying to be positive and I do think it's important, and I agree that Del is being hard on folks by saying we should ridicule them if for the simple fact that once you make someone feel stupid they will NEVER listen to you. I also have a more positive outlook and believe in this country but i believe in it as a democracy, not in somehow accepting the entire world run by the "intellectual elite" as some select group of people. what i think has to happen is that people need to realize that WE are the "intellectual elite" and take control of our own destinies. We ain't doing that right now. Electing Ron Paul would be doing that. Electing anyone else is telling ourselves that we are fine with being ruled and we do not truly value freedom, which comes inherently with the responsibility of understanding our own decisions or it falls apart. I agree with Del on pretty much everything else but i can take solace in the fact, which H.B. mentioned, that the true freedom is within our minds and no matter what government entity I am a part of I can always (without the forced consumption of mind-altering chemical substances, which may not be as far off as we like to hope) think for myself and see the beauty in life, if not the beauty in government systems.

OaksterDan Tue 2/5/2008 10:01PM
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OaksterDan

What a show! I was on the floor in front of a bank of speakers next to Bobby for the entire final set. During that last set there were big smiles on everybody's face that i could see including famous deadhead to my right Bill Walton! Some of my highlights were, Mark Karan and Jackie Greene trading licks on a few occasions, Jackie really belts out an epic Sugaree doesn't he, Mickey IKO, Bobby's Throwing Stones, US Blues, Mark Karan leads and Bobby, Phil & Mickey seemed to be really enjoying themselves. They really shared the music well with that many skilled players. This line-up could certainly out due 2002-2004 versions of the Dead based on last night performance. A night to be remember!

pheelalrights starstarstarstarstar Wed 2/6/2008 08:31AM
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pheelalrights

Wow! Looks like the ole' days.

Been to see all of the incarnations of my favorite band/religion of the 80s, and very early 90s. Must say once again, I MISS THE FAT MAN. Phriends shows are certainly more spacy than Booby and the Midnites version iv, but it depends on the phriends. John Sco yes, other ones so, so. I won't bitch. Had the chance too many times to remember, "that must have been heaven," and I was there with my sisters and brothers.

Pranaam.

Heath

oogieBwoogie Wed 2/6/2008 10:46AM
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Sounds like it was a wonderful show! I'd love to see that combination of musicians live on stage :D :D

and all the politics, just to put in my two cents

NAME CALLING AND PERSONAL ATTACKS GET YOU NOWHERE!!!!!!!!

I've heard some good arguments for supporting Ron Paul, as well as the other candidates, (right now im undecided). BUT I am not readily willing to take anybody seriously when they attack mine/other's intelligence based on personal opinions. You are using an unfair tactic that is, in my opinion, just as evil as what the media does. Just please be respectful.

peace!

delaneyira star Wed 2/6/2008 11:58AM
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Nonesense, i am not going to shutup when i get ridiculed by someone who can read volumes about this stuff but still lacks the critical thinking to put it all together. Its not my fault that he can read what david rockefeller writes and still think that the CFR is all good. Its not my fault! So when someone like that wants to ridicule me in public when they are actively ignoring everything i say well sorry, i am not going to be nice about it. We need to learn how to defend ourselves. Learning how to shoot is the easy part. Learning how to use your intelect is a different story. Ill admit, stoops seems to have read some of the right stuff and he appears to know quite a bit about it, he comes to completely wrong conclusions. And this isnt a matter of personal opinion, its a matter of definition. When you read david rockefeller saying "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." and you come to the conclussion that he wants to do something good, then you have to be challanged and then if you dont come to your senses you should be ridiculed for not using your brain. I know all of you get offended when use the word slave. Stop being such babies, its only about grabing your attention. I have never met any of you, what makes you think that i know anything about you? You shouldve just assumed that it was to get your attention. Its a powerful word that grabs peoples attention. Now if we dont start learning about these people and these groups we litterally WILL be slaves. And it will be worse than anything americans did to africans in the 1800's. It will be global and scientific and there will likely be no turning back. "there will come a time where the differences between those who rule and those who are ruled become so great that a revolution of the plebs would be as unlikely as a group of sheep protesting the consumption of mutton" - aldous huxley - See what is happening? These elites, rockefellers and co, decend from the people who were eugenicists and thier science was to, over time, BREED a class of peolpe so easy to rule that thier superiority could never be challanged. Thats why people call it the scientific dictatorship. It is the most pure form of racism. this why the situation is so dire, that is why i resort to obnoxious loud offensive wording. If i didnt people would likely just notice that i wrote something long and skip my post. When i talk to people in person i dont act like that. I would get my head kicked in on a minute by minute basis.

sirrickthegreat Thu 2/7/2008 09:08AM
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iclips can sucks my dicks

sirrickthegreat star Thu 2/7/2008 09:08AM
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iclips can sucks my dicks

cavemandan Thu 2/7/2008 12:20PM
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cavemandan Thu 2/7/2008 12:23PM
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YOU ALL ARE SO SMART, YET YOU CAN NOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO ONLY POST YOUR GAGA ONCE?...I THINK SNOOPES AND DELAYRIA ARE THE SAME PERSON PLAYING MENTAL MASTURBATION GAMES ON THE BOARD.

Andy Thu 2/7/2008 01:05PM
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Andy

I usually don't post expecially in a post with such a heated duscussion by so many people but abortion is not murder! Every woman has a right to choose what to do to her body, including her woom. Sex today is not just about babies, its fun too, and condoms break, and birth control doesn't always work. Everyone should have a choice, because mistakes happen!!!

Andy Thu 2/7/2008 01:10PM
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Andy

I usually don't post expecially in a post with such a heated duscussion by so many people but abortion is not murder! Every woman has a right to choose what to do to her body, including her woom. Sex today is not just about babies, its fun too, and condoms break, and birth control doesn't always work. Everyone should have a choice, because mistakes happen!!!

ghilliesblunt starstarstarstarstar Thu 2/7/2008 01:59PM
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ghilliesblunt

idk if its been posted but this show is now on archive.org

BlowsAgainsttheEmpire Sat 2/9/2008 04:00AM
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BlowsAgainsttheEmpire

Abortion is a *PERSONAL* issue, NOT a political issue.

cavemandan Sat 2/9/2008 12:28PM
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WOMEN DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO ALLOW MURDER INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THEIR BODY. WE NEED A SYSTEM OF TRANSPLANTING FETUSES FROM A WOMAN WHO DOES NOT WANT TO CARRY THE BABY TO ONE WHO DOES....PROBLEM SOLVED.... THE PROBLEM IS WOMEN THINK BECAUSE THE BABY IS INSIDE THEM IT IS PART OF THEIR BODY..... WRONG!.... THIS BABY IS AN INDIVIDUAL...JUST USING THE MOTHER FOR NUTRIENTS AND A WARM COZY PLACE TO GROW BEFORE EXITING THE WOMB....SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS IF YOU WERE A SIAMESE TWIN YOU COULD MURDER YOUR ATTACHED BROTHER OR SISTER?...SEE HOW DUMB YOUR ARGUEMENT IS?....ANY WOMAN WHO HAS AN ABORTION SHOULD GET HER TUBES TIED AS PART OF THE ABORTION.....WHY CAN A WOMAN PERFORM AN ABORTION EVEN IF THE SPERM DONER WANTS THE BABY TO LIVE?... I USED TO FEEL IT WAS A WOMAN'S RIGHT THEN THE LIGHT TURNED OUT TO HOW WRONG THAT IS.... HER RIGHT TO MURDER SHOULD NEVER BE APPROVED...EVEN RAPE VICTIMS SHOULD HAVE TO CARRY THE BABY IN THE WOMB OR FIND A SERROGATE MOTHER!

BooneRes Sat 2/9/2008 02:50PM
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BooneRes

ura douche bag and ur mom should have had an abortion

curtbraski star Sat 2/9/2008 09:43PM
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curtbraski

everybody help do your part and DONT VOTE... all the canidates are bigger jokes than delaneyria...seriously you are a fagg gggot gootttt

 
 

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