Prince Not Suing Fans

Prince
In response to our November 7 news item (see below), Prince has released a statement refuting claims that he is suing fansites.

It was reported that a team of lawyers for the artist had ordered several fansites to remove any image that bears his likeness, prompting fans to form the group PrrinceFansUnited.com to fight the demands.

However, a statement released by the singer's promoter AEG said: "Prince is not suing his fans, is not looking to penalize fans and nor is he looking to or inhibiting freedom of speech in any way. In fact, he is simply looking to provide Prince fans with exclusive music and images entirely free of charge, and bypassing unofficial and unauthorized phony fansites that exploit both consumers and artists.

"The action taken earlier this week was not to shut down fansites, or control comment in any way. The issue was simply to do with in regards to copyright and trademark of images and only images, and no lawsuits have been filed.

"The three sites in question have falsely positioned themselves as representatives of millions of Prince fans. In fact, many have come out in support of Prince at his official site and even on the message boards of the unofficial sites in question.

"Mediation between the parties is currently resolving the matter."

The "offending items" were reported to be live images from Prince's 21 nights in London at the O2 Arena earlier this year.

The statement also spoke out against fansite piracy, saying:

"Prince is breaking new ground as the first artist to take on the world's largest internet pirates bootleggers, including the notorious The Pirate Bay who have been misrepresenting themselves as a site for 'the fans'.

"They are in fact exploiting copyrighted material for their commercial gain. The site has flouted constant legal notices from artists and corporations throughout the world while cashing in on advertising monies. All the time, they keep up the pretence of being an anarchist, 'free music' fansite when it is really a massive money-making venture."


Originally published on 11/7/07:

From princefansunited.com

PRINCE FANS FIGHT BACK AGAINST ATTACKS

In an extraordinary, but not unfamiliar move, the rock legend Prince is using an army of lawyers to launch attacks on his own fans.

Several of the largest web communities dedicated to the artist have received notices to cease and desist all use of photographs, images, lyrics, album covers and anything linked to Prince's likeness.

It is our opinion that these threats are not made in an attempt to enforce valid copyright as Prince alleges in his threats, rather we believe they are attempts to stifle all critical commentary about Prince. We strongly believe that such actions are in violation of the freedom of speech and should not be allowed. Prince claims that fansites are not allowed to present any artwork with Prince's likeness, to the extreme that he has demanded removal of fan's own photographs of their Prince inspired tattoos and their vehicles displaying Prince inspired license plates.

Prince's representatives have requested that the fansites provide them with "substantive details of the means by which you [the fansites] propose to compensate our clients [Paisley Park Enterprises, NPG Records and Anschutz Entertainment Group (AEG)] for damages..."

The owners of the three largest fansites supporting Prince: www.housequake.com, www.princefams.com and www.prince.org have come together to fight back to what amounts to an injustice to the fansites and the very fans who have supported Prince's career, many since the very beginning nearly thirty years ago.

It is their hope that Prince will reconsider his position and allow these fansites to continue their existence without constant threats from Prince and his attorneys. Should this not be possible, the fansites are fully prepared to defend their position in the proper court of law, as well as fully prosecute any claims to which they are justly entitled.

The owners of housequake.com, princefams.com and prince.org acknowledge that, while Prince is entitled to control of his copyrights, it should be within the law. The law clearly provides for displaying of images of a celebrity's likeness for newsworthy events or matters that are considered to be public interest. All three websites feel that the photographs and/or likeness displayed on their websites clearly fall within the public interest category. Additionally, the use of photographs is legal based on the fair use doctrine, i.e. the displaying of album cover art, or the collage headers created by website members using a variety of different photographs.

For housequake.com: Aaron A. Sikkink and Gavin McLaughlin
For princefams.com: Endre Adolfsen and Jonathan Nice
For prince.org: Ben Margolin

For more information, please contact the Prince Fans United Group spokesperson:
Gavin McLaughlin at: pfu@housequake.com.

[Published on: 11/12/07]

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keenan41 starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 10:20AM
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keenan41

This reaffirms how much of a douche Prince is...

delaneyira star Tue 11/6/2007 10:24AM
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Notice when they say "propose to compensate our clients[Paisley Park Enterprises, NPG Records and Anschutz Entertainment Group (AEG)] Prince is not mentioned. Whos really driving this people? The record industry is trying to protect thier product. Prince is the product, hes not even a real person as much as hes a character. Prince Rogers Nelson, plays the character of "prince" on stage. That character is owned by those corporations. Once again this is a situation where its the corporation vs. the rights of the people. Unfortunately the people in this country are so friggen stupid they will probably side with prince and the record companies, completely ignorant of the underlying, fundamental, breach of the free speech rights of those website and thier owners. It is discusting how they are going to punish the people responsible for the strong brand identity that is "Prince". Without these people prince would still be that crusty old guy who lives in windsor castle...

phishr82 star Tue 11/6/2007 10:25AM
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phishr82

looks like I won't be seeing SOMEBODY in the purple rain!

guitardave star Tue 11/6/2007 11:13AM
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guitardave

Prince is the Emperor...of greed. What a dork, without his passionate fan base he'd probably be a hairdresser in Minnesota. Talk about biting the hands that have fed you untold millions.

sunnbear Tue 11/6/2007 11:32AM
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sunnbear

He sure can play the guitar, but what an asshole!

radioboy Tue 11/6/2007 11:43AM
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WOW.... this is just funny, what an asshole, although I gotta admit prince is a SHREDDER...!

D.B.Higdon starstarstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 11:47AM
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D.B.Higdon

So, unless Jambase is ready to compensate the man and his lackeys, they probably should take down this picture. Prince is a total bitch; I admire his talent, his music, his performances, his musicianship, but his drive to attain all artistic freedom, to now include his likeness, has gotten out of hand.

Kevin Smith tells one of the funniest stories about when he filmed a music video for Prince on "An Evening with Kevin Smith," and what a crazy diva that guy is.

Road To Shambala Tue 11/6/2007 11:49AM
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Road To Shambala

You don't to be rich... to be sued by me and my entities

I just want your extra time and you....ding a ling a ling ... CASH$$$$$$$$$

overall Tue 11/6/2007 12:00PM
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overall

Not sure which is funnier....the thought that Prince's throng of middle-aged housewife fans is large enough to busy three entire websites, or that his legal team feels his web-carried image bears enough value to justify sabre rattling.

I just hope the lawyers for Boy George and Adam Ant don't choose to become equally protective as that would all but ruin my "Atopical Androgynous Stars of the Eighties" blog site.

overall Tue 11/6/2007 12:04PM
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overall

Not sure which is funnier....the thought that Prince's throng of middle-aged housewife fans is large enough to busy three entire websites, or that his legal team feels his web-carried image bears enough value to justify sabre rattling.

I just hope the lawyers for Boy George and Adam Ant don't choose to become equally protective as that would all but ruin my "Atopical Androgynous Stars of the Eighties" blog site.

cocheese Tue 11/6/2007 12:13PM
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cocheese

what a dick!

j-bizzle Tue 11/6/2007 12:27PM
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j-bizzle

looks like prince is trying to recoup some of the costs associated to his $70,000 a month rent.... http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0320063prince1.html

seriously - what a dick!

j-bizzle Tue 11/6/2007 12:30PM
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j-bizzle

looks like prince is trying to recoup some of the costs associated to his $70,000 a month rent.... http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0320063prince1.html

seriously - what a dick!

karacter0 Tue 11/6/2007 12:35PM
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Kayceman Tue 11/6/2007 12:53PM
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Kayceman

Karacter0 - who do you think put this rather negative look at Prince up on the site? Guess I'm one of the D-bag writers/editors. thanks for the really thoughtful comment.

D.B.Higdon starstarstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 12:57PM
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D.B.Higdon

I don't think it is a question of whether or not anyone loves Prince the performer or Prince the musician; that is firmly established. This backlash is a result of Prince turning his goons on his loyal fanbase. Prince used to have the NPGMusicClub that gave fans tickets within the first 11 rows, after party passes (where he would rip it up until the wee hours), fan club only CDs, and fan club only shows, and he one day mysteriously pulled the plug on that. Since then, his communication with his fans, the same fans that stuck with him through his record company legal battles, has become almost non-existent. His shows are unbelievable; John Blackwell, Candy Dulfer, Najee, Maceo Parker, Sheila E., Larry Graham, just to name a few of his bandmates follow Prince's lead, and it is tight! But this is just some unwarranted Prince weirdness.

kirkbrew starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 01:12PM
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kirkbrew

karacter0 - You fuckin' tell 'em!!!

Kayceman - Maybe you should add "Think" to the comment guidelines. It sounds obvious, but some people (those with Zero Character especially) may need some help.

As for Prince, great musician - bit time D-bag. Fox did the same thing back in 96 to Simpson fan sites.

gmoo Tue 11/6/2007 01:14PM
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gmoo

Much style. Little substance. Won't TAFKAP just go away.

canoftunapudding Tue 11/6/2007 01:22PM
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Blouses

SnapHappy Tue 11/6/2007 01:24PM
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SnapHappy

This is the reason I do my best to ignore mainstream music and spend my time paying attention to the kind of music that JamBase typically represents, not musicians who are caught up on themselves with too much money - worrying about every penny of it. I want to hear about musicians who are focused on the music instead of trying to figure what they should call themselves.I wish JamBase wouldn't even bother spending the energy of covering stories like this. I think the people who start the fan sites are a bit obsessed and have too much time on their hands in the first place. Why do they want to fight for the right to continue promoting a person who doesn't give a sh-t about them? Seems like a waste. I'm all about freedom of speech and maintaining ones rights but... just to display some Prince photo's? It doesn't matter how good a musician is when it comes down the stuff like this.

toeknee420 Tue 11/6/2007 01:28PM
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kirkbrew starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 01:41PM
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kirkbrew

toeknee420 - You kill me. You really think that JamBase is some money makin' machine a la Rolling Stone and these guys are so full of themselves (and simultaneously insecure) that they strike down any negative comment made by ignorant dope heads? You really believe that? If so, get over to the Garath Brooks post. I want to see what you have to say about that.

As has been stated in the past, posts were taken down on the original Vegoose thread because total pricks were starting flame wars, using excessive profanity and other offensive remarks. The Community Guidelines were added shortly after they took down those posts – ALL posts, not just the ones that so eloquently stated “Fuck you Superfly”.

While JamBase imposes restrictions on flames/abuse, they have an open door policy on ignorance. So, feel free to go wild. Please enlighten us with more of your theories. I need a good chuckle.

jbleiche Tue 11/6/2007 02:22PM
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This is one of the most anger inspiring things that i have ever read. Prince should be boycotted.

RothburyWithCheese star Tue 11/6/2007 02:27PM
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aaronjl1 Tue 11/6/2007 02:54PM
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aaronjl1

a Waste is a Terrible thing to Mind...

garriswh Tue 11/6/2007 03:13PM
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typical corporate sellout artist proving that profits are the only thing on his mind. If artist's and record labels could only learn that the fans are what keep them going and not the enemy, I think things would be a whole lot better for the music scene in general.

cuttyfives Tue 11/6/2007 03:17PM
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Prince is dope, I love D ing to prince.

keithrichardsforpres Tue 11/6/2007 05:29PM
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keithrichardsforpres

LiberalsForMichaelSavageIn2008 - Go See Him Live. Honestly, there is not a more talented combo of 1. Songwriting, 2. Vocals, 3. GUITARPLAYER - this guy could hang with Hendrix, 4. Performer. There is a reason this guy is king.

DJ Saturday Baxter Tue 11/6/2007 05:50PM
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DJ Saturday Baxter

Prince is super funky. its some of the best dance music out there. his music is the shit.

erikroland starstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 06:26PM
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This is the least "rock-n-roll" move an artist can make. For everyone who hates Prince, or just wants to know his level of douche-i-ness, check out the DVD "An Evening With Kevin Smith" and you can hear his story about when Prince had him come shoot some stuff for him. It's hilarious.

mulelouisville starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 06:50PM
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Prince should have thought of the backlash of his actions. He will know spend more money in PR to repair the damage this attack as caused. He will also lose future sales. Management is really thinking on this one.

Poly420 starstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 07:02PM
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Poly420

I never liked Prince so this story was pretty meaningless to me.

Poly420 starstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 07:02PM
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OOOMMM starstarstarstarstar Tue 11/6/2007 07:04PM
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Wow Prince, that's pathetic (not that your here reading this blog). . . Though I guess I would close my fan site down if the artist I loved insulted me like that. I work in a recording studio and how the artist acts in real life inherently shapes how I feel about their music. ie. I now totally dig Bruce Springsteen because he was super fucking cool when he came through and I don't listen to nearly as much Lauryn Hill because she was such a freak show. . . Fight the power!

karacter0 Tue 11/6/2007 10:01PM
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karacter0

Kayceman - why the guilty conscience? I certainly didn't have you in mind when I made the comment. I was speaking about all the wankers that were glorifying Prince in the Bonnaroo article, specifically the articles author Snappy. I checked and you didn't make any pro Prince comments, SO... why get defensive.

Are you saying you put this article up here to fuel contempt for Prince????? ...then you single me out with no regards to starting a "flame war". I thought that wasn't the Jbase way. I know I would do something like that, but lately it seems that controversy is kryptonite to Jbase. Glad to hear that you're retaining some spine. Maybe we agree on this whole Prince thing.

I never said that every Jbase writer was a D-bag. I tried to say what I said without rambling on and on. Sorry if i wasn't clear enough.

triad1 Wed 11/7/2007 05:18AM
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triad1

Prince should be ashamed....He needs to sit down and have a heart to heart with Bob Dylan. Dylan knows how to market his music. Prince's lyrics will never be printed in literature books. As far as his playing, well he's no Warren Haynes.

triad1 Wed 11/7/2007 05:18AM
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triad1

Prince should be ashamed....He needs to sit down and have a heart to heart with Bob Dylan. Dylan knows how to market his music. Prince's lyrics will never be printed in literature books. As far as his playing, well he's no Warren Haynes.

xreddreads420x star Wed 11/7/2007 06:27AM
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BOYCOTT PRINCE

WOW serously this is really messed up. I don't understand why artists attack the people who got them to where they are. He should be thankful that he has fan sites. he might be a really good musician but hes also an aging rock star. he should be ashamed of himself.

nfenne starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/7/2007 06:28AM
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nfenne

I grew up not liking Prince because every time I saw him he was humping his guitar rather than playing it. As I got older and heard more of his music I realized why people dig him so much. Every story I've heard about this guy makes me think that he is a complete nut job. Anyone remember Prince getting sued by Carlod Boozer (NBA player) last year? Prince rented this dude's million dollar condo and when Carlos got his place back Prince had painted everything purple and painted his logos all over the patio and stuff.

philhitz Wed 11/7/2007 07:17AM
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C'mon the guy has to be a music god -- he provided us w/ the talents of shelia e., didn't he? -- this guy is more overrated than michigan football!

-- it seems to me prince is at his best when he's serving charlie murphy pancakes.

Shmo-Kaine Wed 11/7/2007 11:02AM
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Shmo-Kaine

It might just be me but doesn't he look like his face was carved out a block of wood. Creepy bastard..

Smack21 starstarstarstar Wed 11/7/2007 12:49PM
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I decided to give Prince a try so I got his new CD a month ago... it is worthless. I tried to give it away and no one wants it. Game.. Not Prince

onemanband starstarstarstarstar Wed 11/7/2007 02:29PM
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as a part-time musician, i have to say, it's not as much fun playing when no one wants to watch. Friends and fans make it all worthwhile, even when no money is involved.

He was very talented, and may have impressive chest hair - but prince obviously forgot what matters.

take his pictures and tour dates off this site or you'll get sued too!

onemanband starstarstarstar Wed 11/7/2007 02:32PM
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prince and michael jackson should go on tour together.

they could play at all the prisons

the "washed up perverts" tour, 2007

DJ Saturday Baxter Wed 11/7/2007 09:54PM
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DJ Saturday Baxter

prince's last cd was sick ..fuckin funky! also ...he put out a single on itunes as a benifit for new orleans called "brand new new orleans" it is super sweet. i really dont give a shit that he is an asshole... i dont know him and dont care... but...i like super funky ass music.. so i dig prince. its booty dance music...not hippy jammy stuff.

‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› {¬¿¬} starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/8/2007 05:29AM
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‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›      {¬¿¬}

I never knew Prince could cause so much CONTROVERSY. :P

‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› {¬¿¬} starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/8/2007 05:34AM
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hahahaha I kill myself :P

Zarathustra024 Thu 11/8/2007 06:46AM
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Filo: At 10-0 and with the best defense in the country i don't know how to "luck into" the top spot, but whatever. Way to regurgitate the tired opinions of all the so-called experts on ESPN. OSU has actually improved every week, and while they may not have been the best team in the country coming into the year they sure as shit are right now. The Big Ten may not have 2 or 3 dominant teams like it has in the past, but it's pretty solid top to bottom, even Illinois is playing well this year (and they also happen to be the Buckeyes' opponent this weekend). Go ahead and hate, but to have the team we have this year after losing so many standout players from last year's team is amazing and truly impressive in a year otherwise notable for its parity.

Oh, and while i can't take issue with your criticism of Michigan, once again it seems too easy to repeat what everyone in the college football world is saying about Michigan this year after they lost to App St in week one. They actually have rebounded pretty well and beat some solid teams. The people who so adamantly label them "overrated" are the same people who put them in the top 10 in the preseason, they're just pissed their predictions were so very wrong, same with LSU and all the assholes wanting them at #1 despite the loss. You should know better than to mimic the opinions of the "pundits" who inevitably pick the big name schools for the preseason top 10 regardless of personnel. Preseason rankings don't mean shit in college football, remember that. Just look at USC. Talk about overrated. Fact is there is no playoff system, and until that happens every week matters. That's what makes it so compelling, IMO.

As for Prince, he's only hurting himself. I do find some of his musical achievements highly impressive, but as an artist does he have staying power in the same way that the Beatles or the Dead do? Probably not. Time will tell, but i suspect his notoriety will eventually dwindle as he is more of a pop culture icon than a musical pioneer. This alienation of his fanbase should only serve to speed up that process. Perhaps he is aware of this, and wants to cash in as much as he can before people realize he is washed up and move on to the next trendy pop star. Seriously, will anyone be covering Purple Rain 20 years from now?

nomemory star Thu 11/8/2007 06:50AM
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I loved prince...and it sucks that he was probably the most ripped off artist of the last millenium...causing him to change his name to a symbol just to make money on his new material...I felt bad for him...but this is just bull schavick...Who does he think he is...I don't care if Eric Clapton made this move, I'd ban him too. So long prince, hope it was worth it.

nomemory Thu 11/8/2007 06:53AM
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nomemory

This is what it sounds like when doves cry

nuke_ticketbastard starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/8/2007 08:23AM
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wow you people are the d-bags NOT prince , he is a music god...

what makes you think that FANS have any right to use his likeness or likeness of his music it is HIS! do you think he gives a shit what people think about him , it doesn't matter when you are a true master of your craft , you just make the magic happen and let the chippies fall where they may. he deserves every penny that he gets from suing his fans. in fact he should have sued trey for every time he bludgeoned a prince song in front of a crowd full of hopped up tasteless crass stinky hippies that thought phish could even begin to cover music of the caliber that this man makes. prince is king! ;-)

JStep starstarstar Thu 11/8/2007 09:06AM
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JStep

Get more than one side of a story.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2007/11/07/prince_moves_to_sue_fan_web_sites/

~Not a huge prince fan, but not a bandwagon joiner either.

JStep starstarstar Thu 11/8/2007 09:06AM
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JStep

Get more than one side of a story.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2007/11/07/prince_moves_to_sue_fan_web_sites/

~Not a huge prince fan, but not a bandwagon joiner either.

JStep starstarstar Thu 11/8/2007 09:14AM
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JStep

Here's another article that seems to be the most inclusive of both sides. Note that all the articles, except this one on Jambase, state that it is the record company attorneys suing 3 specific websites, not Prince suing his 'fans'.

http://www.reuters.com/article/musicNews/idUSL0765531020071108

USCTrojans4Life starstarstarstarstar Thu 11/8/2007 09:53AM
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USCTrojans4Life

Purple is my favorite color and my favorite artists color. He is an amazing purple lover!!!

AFKAR7 Fri 11/9/2007 02:13PM
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AFKAR7

Posted today on the PFU web site

"Many members and visitors will doubtless have seen the wildly inaccurate statement today by AEG that "Prince is not suing his fans" and referring to the Prince Fans United sites as "phoney". Not only is this statement confusing, libellous and misleading, we have actually been informed by Prince's representatives that his PR company (Outside PR) sent this in error last night and it has been picked up by a few key media organisations today.

We will shortly be issuing a (heavily) revised joint statement, however in the meantime please be aware that stories circulating on the internet that refers to "phoney" fan websites are wildly inaccurate and should not be taken at face value. Outside PR have assured us that every measure is currently being taken to withdraw these articles."

Make sure all the facts are out before you full out flame the guy.

toeknee420 Sat 11/10/2007 04:43AM
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toeknee420

kirkbrew - Sounds like you work "here" too. I have a friend I want you to meet. His name is Mr. Jim Jones, (but you can call him Kayceman), and he wants you to drink his Kool Aid. Enjoy.

toeknee420 Sat 11/10/2007 04:57AM
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toeknee420

And how can you compare this 3rd rate crap with Rolling Stone? I guess you can say the both sold out, so bravo on the observation. Good eye there tough guy. At least RS has enough balls to say, "We're big, we got money, we dont care if we suck or who reads it, we're doing what we want, which is sell out." Jambase tries to jerk us off by calling it a jam site. I'll gladly go to www.shitbase.com if they want to be honest and not try to use jam as their cover. Prince is "jam"? The only jamming going is the bullshit that is getting shoved down your throat.

Jambase started as "jam" music and has "branched out to cover other areas" (= needs money, not getting enough from keeping true to form).

And MTV started as "music television" and has "branched out to cover other areas".

The larger you get, the more money you need to function, the more you sacrifice your principles to get the money to keep your own little burocracy in place. How about cap your growth, say no to "growing your portfolio" ala Michael Douglas in Wall Street, and be happy giving out good info about good people in the "jam" scene who's banner you claim to fly under until you guys need a few $$$. No one is stoping you from saying no to the money.

Not everyone in America is a fucking piece of livestock. I'm not a source of disposable income for you to plunder. I'm just a head looking for a good story, not a fucking Prince or Superfly comercial. Excuse me for going to "JAMBASE.COM" and expecting to see NEWS on JAMBANDS.

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david69bowie Sat 11/10/2007 01:26PM
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This is what it sounds like.. when doves cry.

karacter0 Sat 11/10/2007 06:13PM
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karacter0

Even when OSU loses a game the fans in Athens OH get to go home an smoke the headiest of the headies. So, how could they ever truely lose?

Ever been to Hoohahville? 'nuff said

LaxHippy starstarstar Sun 11/11/2007 01:47AM
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all you have to do is go to YouTube and search for "Michael Jackson humiliate Prince". Michael Jackson is called to the stage at a James Brown concert and proves why he's sold a billion records. Then he tells James Brown that Prince is in the audience and gets him onstage. Prince then proceeds to be Prince. This video will say it all, every argument, every counter-argument, it makes both sides right.

You also can't forget that when Eric Clapton was asked how it feels to be the world's greatest living guitar player, he said, "I don't know. Ask Prince." The man can play.

Troubled genius?

and for anyone who might skip the video...Prince rides onto the stage on the back of a burly old bearded man in a sleeveless zebra-patterned shirt.

creaturefrommars starstarstarstarstar Mon 11/12/2007 06:40AM
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Prince should appreciate his fans, and realize that we are the reason that he is what he is. Yes he's talented, but without a fanbase he is nothing!!

gregpua Mon 11/12/2007 03:56PM
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Normally you would be taken aback when seeing a headline with "(Enter artist or your choice here) Not Suing Fans" but then again this is Prince, making this seem somewhat normal and unsurprising.

Atlien Mon 11/12/2007 10:41PM
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Prince was a fucking genius, but he hasn't written a relevant song since he found religion. Damn shame.

Astronaut Jones Tue 11/13/2007 06:07AM
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Astronaut Jones

logical: Dark Star > The Other One > Dark Star

illogical: Prince > O.S.U. football > Jambase Conspiracy Theory > O.S.U. football > Prince

go figure

clarkwgriswold star Tue 11/13/2007 07:23AM
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Game.......Blouses.

onemanband starstarstarstar Tue 11/13/2007 07:52AM
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"controversy!"

see people - this must be what it sounds like when doves cry.

or when rich people need more money

phalluscooper star Tue 11/13/2007 09:04AM
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phalluscooper

...and in other mindless news, a video has surfaced showing Britney Spears running a red light. For those of you that can't seem to get enough of American Idol, re-runs of the previous nail-biter season may be seen on the RealityTV network. In other Hollywwod news, Lindsay Lohan is giving back to the community by serving her mandated community service.....BLAH BLAH BLAH!

Zarathustra024 Tue 11/13/2007 12:08PM
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Damn, should have knocked on wood after i posted that tirade defending OSU football. Kudos Filo, you win this round, however i think you may have missed my point. How can a team or conference be overrated if every pundit, analyst, commentator, and backseat coach sitting at their computers with a hand down their pants agrees that they are "overrated"? Who is overrating them? I guess only the coaches and media members who vote for them in the polls, and whose job it is to analyze every team, player, coach, etc ad nauseum all year. So who is more credible? Furthermore, as I said, Illinois is one example of how the Big Ten is fairly balanced now, and they proved that this weekend (unfortunately against the Buckeyes). The one thing that I was dead wrong about and can't help but retract is my assertion that OSU has "the best defense in the country". I would have given my left nut (no pun intended) for a stop on third down against the Illini. Oh well, now that the preseason's over we can focus on the only game of the year that matters. Oh, and why hate on Hookahville? How is it overrated? Ever notice how some people like to claim that basically anything marginally popular is "overrated" so as to inflate their own egos and convince themselves how "superior" they are to the general populace? Best of luck to you and your team, and to Prince and his fans. I'm thoroughly befuddled about this legal battle, hopefully whoever is getting screwed gets what they deserve.