Vegoose | 10.27 & 10.28 | Las Vegas

man I dont know about the music but that daft punk set looked intense

btw FUCK YEAH ROBERT RANDOLPH!!!

Kayce said: "So, if they build it, I know I will come. But, talk of ticket sales, cash flow and groundless speculation about the future aren't for the fans. One thing I do know is that I got to see Daft Punk in that fucking Pyramid and that alone is good enough........One More Time."

nicely done aaron. for having your attention diverted amongst worldly debauchery, shooting video and catching some flops, this is a damn good writeup. Again, not kissin ass, but there was perfect mix of first-person experience and your analog breakdown....so, were you pimped backstage when you saw that girl go down during RATM or were you right up in the mix?

nice review man... DAFT PUNK IS HOT HOT SHIT THE BLEW IT UP, vegoose was illen this year in different way but i thnk i had more fun this one than last one....... theivery corp is the shit moe and umph tore it ut soundtribe what!! sick sets alll day both days DAFT PUNK DAFT PUNK ENOUGH SAID

Great writeup and photos! Had a blast this year as with the past two! ... It's definitely changed over time - wish they'd bring back the stadium and the vaudeville tent, but hey- minor complaints. Bringing in the harder acts on Saturday changed the crowd quite a bit ... something about having Cypress Hill yelling "shoot 'em up" repeatedly and watching hundreds of people holding finger pistols into the air kinda killed my buzz a little, but we just wandered around and mingled for awhile ($7 Sierras x15 = $105, anyone?). Umphrey's latenight killed it, as can be imagined. Sunday felt more like past years, and it felt gooood. All in all, I must say it's been a blast to have been a part of this desert fest since its start.

Happened to be in line with Dan and Steve from ALO for the front car of the "Manhattan Express" coaster at New York New York on Monday afternoon ... heard amazing things of Las Tortugas and think I might try something new next year. Wasteland Vegas or Yosemite (and a mini-High Sierra) .... hrmmmm ;-) Maybe both?

Apparently this was the French Duo's last Pyramid show and all I know is I'm glad I didn't miss it. I've seen a lot of psychedelic shit in my day but I've never seen anything like Daft Punk. Robots are real, don't forget it.

I believe in Daft Punk. So fucking sick, I have post robot depression.

Didn't goto the festival, but went to late night shows all 3 nights. Moe wasn't "bad", but they didn't really do anything special and it got a little dull at times. Umph put on the BEST umphreys show i'v ever seen on saturday night (plus, being from chicago, I was bumping into people I went to highschool with almost 10 years ago). STS9 on sunday night was quite possibly the most energetic crowd I'v ever seen in my life (not sure why, but there were alot of friendly people with runny noses dancing their asses off). All in all, I had a great time, and hope that the festival returns next Halloween so I can make it a 4 year tradition of only attending the late night shows.

ALSO -- I loved the layout and the sound at the Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel, however, didn't like the fact that they had more security than the Las Vegas airport, and apparently, your not allowed to sit on the ground, lean against the wall, or get drunk at that venue. Only saying this because I saw 3 different people get tossed, each for one of those "Joint" offenses, and in all 3 cases there honestly was no need to kick any of the 3 people out. The Hard Rock is also the trendiest place I'v ever been to in my life. I walked in and for some reason though I was at the MTV awards or something. Although I tried to dress a little nicer than I normally do, I couldn't help but look like a total scumbag walking in there (I guess I just can't shop and Kohls and party at the Hardrock).

The late nights were SICK!!! Umphrey's finishing the show with Ain't no fun... Now that was nasty... STS9 late night was fun as hell too... Everyone was having a blast at that show... As for Daft Punk.......that was sensory overload! Possibly some of the craziest shit I've ever seen... But, what the hell are those guys doing in that pyramid??? Washing dishes???

Fuck Superfly for their shitty non-jam friendly line ups! And fuck Daft Punk. I saw them back in 1999 in france before they were even the cool thing to listen to here. And there a fucking joke. I meant i guess if you're clubbing, but other than that, fuck them, it's all about the show and not the music.

And Vegoose sucked this year, I had 5 buddies who went there and said the crowd was wack as hell. If you guys paid money to go there you're the king of dumbasses.

ruh roh. look who's back. nice review, man.

just a thought....

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#more-2460

ScIFreak, you are a fucking moron. talking shit about a place that you were not even at and furthermore, you claim you got on the Daft Punk bandwagon early by seeing them in 99 "when no one knew who they were". Their debut came out in '97 and they were all over the place that year, you dumbass were two years late thinking you found the next big thing, wanker....

Oh man this looked like a good time! Although I heard from a friend of mine that the people who threw on Vegoose weren't too accomadating in the press area. He said there wasn't even any bottles of water for them. No bottles of water?!!!! IT's in the desert!!!!

All and all, the lineup looked sweet. good coverage crew.

To the fans who went to Vegoose that didn't at least try to catch Blonde Redhead or Iggy Pop.........You fucked up.

SCIfreak, please don't be bitter b/c your band broke up. If sci was still together I bet you they would be playing sat night. But they got too techno and Nershi left...so Daft Punk plays. Daft Punk would have kicked the shit out of the blue grass-techno cheese was putting out anyway.

there you go jambase, keep promoting mainstream bands that dont need promoting... Nice little PR talk at the beggining... I dont want to hear it. keep being so nice, and slavishly open minded. Just ignore the musical values that got you to music festivals in the first place. Before you know it you will be at an emo show(or some other new contrived trend manufactured by the corporate music/fasion industry), and liking it... Lets face it, daft punk doesnt care about thier instruments, they loop and play samples. queens of the stoned age, all im going to say is my garbage disposal is more musical than they are. Muse, a highschool jazz band could play any of thier songs, they are all straight 4/4, and a little emo to boot. The shins, well thier just as useless and uninspiring as muse. To my knowlege the only people who listen to these bands are ugly college school girls who got thier braces too late, hate themselves for it so they lock themselve in thier dorm room and cry to this music. Public enemy, what can i say, flavor flav cracks me up. Ill allow it for comedy relief... That leaves one headlining band that seems sincere about thier music. ratm, uses thier songs as a vehicle to ship out thier political views, which i agreenwith mostly, and thier anger at a fucked up system that has invisible, figurative handcuffs on the brainless population at large. They pass, not for thier musicianship but for the fact that they actually seem to give a shit about what they are doing. The pre-adult-emo bands like muse and shins shouldnt have been allowed through the music fest doors let alone have such a large write-up in the jamband communities most read website. Lastly, look at the poor coverage Umphreys got. When it comes to technical prowess on the instruments, no other band there, including moe., can hold a candle to thier abilities. Yet, the coverage jambase gives them is disgraceful. Especially the coverage of thier festival apearences. Last week i saw them in boston. They covered shine on you crazy diamond. Perfect. Name another band on the scene today that could pull it off as well as um did. They deserve way more credit then they are getting. Every show they do is an intense musical accomplishment. Kind of how zappa's shows were. Not quite that sophistocated yet but they are damn close. So, there you have it. Those are the reasons why i dissapointed with jambases coverage as of late. Dont be fooled. The mainstream bands and more importantly thier corporat overlords want more than anything, access to our music loving community. Pay attention, notice how hard they are trying to herd us towards thier useless, uninspiring bands. Im done, proceed with the crying...

Scifreak - i think the name says it all, but i'm not one to poop on others parades... whah there weren't enough jam bands (but then again: moe., Umph, STS9, ALO, Franti - seems pretty jam friendly to me... go bitch somewhere else)... seriously dude, come on, talking shit and not even there? By the way, i was there and daft punk was the sickest shit i've seen in a long long while... (right up there with Volta, Arcade Fire, MMJ, and the last Panic run - those all being the best shows i've seen this year). This one of the most enjoyable, diverse festivals i've been to, and seems like a whole lot of peeps enjoyed themselves. I'm sure you've got plenty of SCI bootlegs to drink your haterade to, why bring it here?

Sounded like a great time, yet I am glad I didn't go. I went the first two years, and it only seems to be falling apart even further with less and less each year. I always love how musicians throw down in the "city of entertainment" but this year's festival seemed a lil' light. I would love to see all the bands that played, but I could definitely pass up rubbing elbows with some of the fans that I am sure were there this year (input, anyone?). No offense, I listened to this music when I was younger (P.E, C.H, RATM, etc) but I am probably too mellow to be bashin' around to it now. There was a ton of bands there that I would have LOVED to see, but then again I have seen them all. No mention of ALO? These guys are a great diverse, tough band. They work there fucking asses off, and over the last few years they've proven to be one of the better bans out there. I grew up in Yosemite (area), so this year I went to the Evergreen....perfect. Mellow, awesome music, friendly people, great vibes, endless positive thoughts. I am sure many minds were changed this year about ever going to Vegas for the Halloween weekend???

Delaneyira: all those band you like so much: Umph, moe etc, they get so much press on JamBase, i think it's great they give other types of music coverage. I was into jam bands many years ago, yes Umph are incredibly technically proficient, but what these headliners brought was a different vision with massive stage presence, and a huge sound. whatever, it's all personal taste, i find Umph, moe. etc to lack soul, they can play scales but to me music is much more than just scales, listening to QOTSA or Muse dig into dark pockets of madness does it for me, it might not for you, but that's part of the fun, it would be a boring world if we all liked the same music... lay off the preaching, it's not very becoming.

there you go jambase, keep promoting mainstream bands that dont need promoting... Nice little PR talk at the beggining... I dont want to hear it. keep being so nice, and slavishly open minded. Just ignore the musical values that got you to music festivals in the first place. Before you know it you will be at an emo show(or some other new contrived trend manufactured by the corporate music/fasion industry), and liking it... Lets face it, daft punk doesnt care about thier instruments, they loop and play samples. queens of the stoned age, all im going to say is my garbage disposal is more musical than they are. Muse, a highschool jazz band could play any of thier songs, they are all straight 4/4, and a little emo to boot. The shins, well thier just as useless and uninspiring as muse. To my knowlege the only people who listen to these bands are ugly college school girls who got thier braces too late, hate themselves for it so they lock themselve in thier dorm room and cry to this music. Public enemy, what can i say, flavor flav cracks me up. Ill allow it for comedy relief... That leaves one headlining band that seems sincere about thier music. ratm, uses thier songs as a vehicle to ship out thier political views, which i agreenwith mostly, and thier anger at a fucked up system that has invisible, figurative handcuffs on the brainless population at large. They pass, not for thier musicianship but for the fact that they actually seem to give a shit about what they are doing. The pre-adult-emo bands like muse and shins shouldnt have been allowed through the music fest doors let alone have such a large write-up in the jamband communities most read website. Lastly, look at the poor coverage Umphreys got. When it comes to technical prowess on the instruments, no other band there, including moe., can hold a candle to thier abilities. Yet, the coverage jambase gives them is disgraceful. Especially the coverage of thier festival apearences. Last week i saw them in boston. They covered shine on you crazy diamond. Perfect. Name another band on the scene today that could pull it off as well as um did. They deserve way more credit then they are getting. Every show they do is an intense musical accomplishment. Kind of how zappa's shows were. Not quite that sophistocated yet but they are damn close. So, there you have it. Those are the reasons why i dissapointed with jambases coverage as of late. Dont be fooled. The mainstream bands and more importantly thier corporat overlords want more than anything, access to our music loving community. Pay attention, notice how hard they are trying to herd us towards thier useless, uninspiring bands. Im done, proceed with the crying...

delaneyira, you talk a good game about technical skills and whatnot in bands but have you actually listened to battles. have you heard their new album "mirrored"? i think it's a safe bet that 9 out of 10 fans of either umphreys or sts9 will dig them. if you would have heard them (pending you didn't forget to take your Midol) you would'nt have gone on that pissy diatribe talking shit on JamBizzase.

Read the first part of my little rant and look at through that prism and what im talking about will make more sense. I understand that everyone should be open minded. God knows i am, i listen to all types of shit. From blues, bluegrass, rock, metal, to classical(like beethoven, chopin and rachmaninoff, Frank Zappa) All im saying is dont let your openmindedness get in the way of your ability to judge crap as being crap. Some of those bands i describe as lame could be much better. Take the shins for example. I have a couple of their albums and im not going to lie, i like alot of thier songs. But lets be honest. They cant be trying all that hard. Its like a house, hear me out, a house that has a good solid frame, but doenst have any shudders or paint or shingles. Like a room with no furniture or curtains or pictures on the wall. With that said, these bands have something to work with but they simply do not explore. Every song doesnt have to be 15min long. But every song CANT! be 3-5 minutes long. If they are then it leads me to believe that they are only looking to make little advertisements for thier products. I can get all spun out in a lecture about art and the direction of culture but that would be a waste of time. All im saying is be careful accepting these bands who have corporate ties because the pigs in the back room want you, and they want you bad. Most of you here, im assuming, dont spend alot of money on the mainstream bands. Therefore you are an untapped market to these "pigs" To think that they dont know this and theyre not going to do anything about it is absurd. Thats what the point is, im not nervous that everyone is not going to like the bands i like, its that if you let these fucking pigs move thier less talented, less inspirational(imho) bands in one day they might be all we can see. Look at what happened to music during the 60s and 70s. What the music industry did back then is the reason why mainstream is a bad word, its why everything thats mainstream is all the same. Its why every band on the radio today fits extremely neatly into a specific and rigid category. When you have a market place that is so rigid like that, it one: allows them to easily market thier products(dont confuse products with art) and two: really reduces how diverse music/art will be in the mainstream market place... Im not the first person to say this either, its pretty much what zappa was saying his whole career and im sorry, according to historical record he was 100000000% right. Im sorry if you cant understand that, maybe you need to dust off your intelectual weaponry, especially your logic sword. Go to carl sagans website and memorize the baloney detection kit and youll be well on your way....

Nice part about RATM. Solid writing. That being said, that's a pretty large article about a festival that only had 4 bands worth a shit (RATM, Public enemy, Blonde Redhead, and ALO). I wonder if this thread will get shut down like the last one about this bullshit festival.

delaneyria, your posts are some of the dumbest I have ever read on this board. your perspective on life sounds like someone who puts the umph NYE tickets on mommys mastercard. umphreys sucks and your preaching makes no sense. If you are gonna write something, try to focus on a personal attack or flame war, adds some colorful profanity and try to be funny w/ an occasional sexist, racist or otherwise offensive remark. enough with the preachy, up your own ass shit.

moe? robert randolph? you showed up late for Umphrey's. Did you go to any late nite shows? Who the fuck are you hiring to write your god damn articles? I love all kinds of music and respect all of the musicians that played this festival, but what the fuck? You keep writing shit like this and jambase will just be another souless fucking website. Minimal words on any of the jam bands. Maybe a new band needs to step up, but that still does not take away from the fact that your website is called jambase and you only included one jamband at the end of your article. Superfly is the fucking drama. I love what they are doing and have done. Glad to see Trey is playing again, would love to see Michael Kang and Kyle do something big, and best wishes to moe. and Umphrey's. I can't wait for the next big jamband to blow up, and keep this thing going. Jub Jub.

just a few criticisms, i'll try to make them constructive, first off, please try to get more than one person to cover a festival. its just too hard to be everywhere at once and you end up getting only a brief writeup of each band, second, you wrote that the late night options were overwhelming, this year there were less latenights than ever, you mentioned burlesque shows and cirque du soleil, really?! you can see that anytime you go to vegas! "The idiot factor was almost nil", - ha, I find that hard to believe, with mosh pits, and chicks going down like sacs of potatoes, and gangsta rap, sounds like the idiot factor was off the charts, you wrote this lineup was diverse but I would call it more mainstream than ever, and no i'm not going to whine about my favorite band not being there, I hope everyone had a great time, I just dont understand daft punk, seems like some super repetetive shit, but to each thier own...as long as you had a good time, thats all that matters.

There was just very little hear to get behind. I just gambled and saw Umphrey's at night. What a waste. A bunch of bands that play the same set every night withe same comments between songs.

Moe, Umphrey's, STS9 can at least play 4 or 5 shows in a row without repeating a song.

The record pushers are dying anyway because clones like these all steal their records leaving only the bands that can take it live able to make a living. Bands stop touring when they play the same set with the same hits every nights.

Posers will come and go, but a band like Bisco will survive simply because they can play well enough to fill a concert even if their albums stop selling and all you slaves to corporate rock stop paying attention

Coahella 2 gets less in Vegas

sounds like a weak ass festival to me. I like improvisational music that grooves.

I hate music and jambase and articles unless it is trey noodling for hours non stop

i also like pics of trey. all other music sucks. But i will keep coming to jambase even though i don't like music except noodling for hours

wheres the funk? ...not at this festival.

I just saw two of THE MOTET's halloween shows. They covered Jamiroquai. It was one of the sickest, and funkiest shows i have ever seen. Imagine the RnB disco / groove / soul / funk of Jamiroquia...but then add in Herbie Hancock like on keys and lots of in the pocket , syncopated, group improvisational grooves. BAD ASS!

Superfly is a bunch of sellout scums

Good gosh folks! Maybe the Base is or isn't covering festies worthy of coverage in the opinion of some long time readers... but lets save it for another thread. As far as the article itself I thought it was awesome! I heard about a lot of the bands I wanted to hear on (and yes, many bands i wanted to hear on i did not) but more than that, I think Kayceman did a great job putting you in the mind of an attendee with an understanding of the crowd, the atmosphere and all that ruckus. Personally, I think the site is changing for the better by staying true to its roots while moving forward by tackeling more ground. Great review Kayceman!

The Shins fucking own Umphrey's McGee. I don't like the lineup either, but to say they're emo crap is ignorant as hell. UM has horrible songs and jams that go nowhere. I just don't get why their so overrated. If you want technical abilities AND good jams listen to the Aquarium Rescue Unit or something. Jesus UM is awful.

umph is horrible....a jamariqui cover by MOe? sicky.......ive never been a big fan of moe but unlike umph, i have only seen 4 or 5 moe shows so i wont bash em here. umph sucks my left testicle with a weird growth possibly caused by a sts9 groupie i took home.