Vegoose | 10.27 & 10.28 | Las Vegas

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By: Kayceman

Vegoose :: 10.27 & 10.28 :: Sam Boyd Stadium :: Las Vegas, NV

Editor's Note: A large part of JamBase and this writer's experience at Vegoose was conducting video interviews. We'd like to share these with you right here. This was a time consuming endeavor and therefore forced us to miss several acts we would have liked to cover. We hope you enjoy the videos as a nice addition to our more standard coverage.

Vegoose 2007 by Casey Flanigan
We're all music fans. That's why you're reading, why I'm writing and why I was in Las Vegas for the third annual Vegoose festival. We've all got our favorite bands, maybe they were playing at the Goose, maybe they weren't. But the beauty of a festival is catching the bands you don't know well, the ones you probably wouldn't buy a ticket for and spend your night with. After Vegoose, many of us came away with some new favorites.

There was a remarkable amount of diversity, truly offering something for everyone over the two days of absolutely perfect Fall desert weather. For fans of the jam there was Umphrey's McGee, moe. (check out the moe. Vegoose interview here), STS9 (Sound Tribe Sector 9), ALO (check out the ALO Vegoose interview here), and Michael Franti & Spearhead. For the big time rock shows and bombastic headliners we got Rage Against The Machine, Muse, Queens of the Stone Age, Iggy and the Stooges, The Shins and Mastodon. For hip-hop heavyweights we were lucky enough to witness Public Enemy, Cypress Hill, Ghostface Killah, M.I.A., Lupe Fiasco, Pharoah Monch and Atmosphere. If you wanted something a little different there was world music from Thievery Corporation and Federico Aubele, spastic gypsy punk from Gogol Bordello, steel guitar good times from Robert Randolph (check out the Robert Randolph Vegoose interview here) and ground-breaking rock from Ghostland Observatory, UNKLE, Blonde Redhead and Battles. And then there was Daft Punk - good gawd.

Daft Punk :: Vegoose 2007 by Rod Snyder
But more than just offering one of the most well rounded lineups of the year, what Vegoose gave us was a much-needed grown up festival. Unlike just about every other fest on the market (save for a few like New Orleans' JazzFest and Voodoo), Vegoose is free of sweaty tents and muddy fields. The idiot factor is almost nil. The wasted youth and annoying kids who took too much too fast don't exist. You don't have to suffer through those who only want to see one band and make a point of letting you know when said band is not on stage. Instead of all that, over the last weekend of October, 40,000 fans of all types converged in Las Vegas for a party like no other. And when Vegoose closed down for the evening (midnight on Saturday and around 11 p.m. on Sunday) it was off to the Las Vegas Strip, where we could play like big kids.

The late night options were overwhelming. There were the more traditional shows with Umph, moe., Shins, Franti, Thievery, STS9, Z-Trip, MSTRKRT, etc, but if you were so inclined and wanted to do grown up things, there were burlesque shows (check out The Forty Deuce), Cirque du Soleil, raging parties in rock star suites, gambling and things we just can't talk about in print. Vegas is all that and a bag of, well, a bag of whatever floats your boat. There ain't nothin' like Las Vegas and having the pleasure of a major festival during the day and The Strip at night makes for an experience you just can't find anywhere else.

Enough with the extracurricular activities, this was a music festival and there was more music on Vegoose's three stages than any one person could ever hope to hear. It bears mention that this is a very professional event with loud, clean sound, huge stages, raging lights and all the lil extras like quality food, Vegas impersonators and wild costumes you'd hope for in a Halloween event.

THE BIG GUNS

Daft Punk: One More Time

Daft Punk :: Vegoose 2007 by Casey Flanigan
Are you fucking kidding me with Daft Punk? Coming off their summer tour and heading into Vegoose I was beyond skeptical. I just couldn't see how two French dudes in a Pyramid with some laptops and synths could live up the hype. What Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo do is beyond categorization. Like they used to say about the Grateful Dead, "they aren't the best at what they do, they're the only ones who do what they do." Anytime you see true visionaries, true originals, all you can do is bow down and give praise. I went from naysayer to bandwagon in one song. I knew 20 minutes into their set it was the best show I would see all year. The optimal word here is "show." It was a true, overwhelming audio-visual experience like nothing I've ever even considered, not to mention more lights than I've ever seen in one place. It's not even fair to compare other acts to Daft Punk. By the way, I don't even really dig dance music, but this is far more than just dance music. It's cerebral, fun as hell, has a message (television rules the nation) and is the greatest light show ever. Dropping full-on anthems like "Around The World," "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" and "One More Time," the production value and what they are able to do with light and sound is hard to wrap your head around. At every moment it looks how it sounds. The Pyramid doesn't even seem possible. It's solid then hollow. There are images flashing through it, then on it. It's moving yet stationary, and Tron is there, too. However, there was one recurring thought that kept flashing through my head, "If you think about it, it will evaporate." If you tried to dissect it, if you started trying to figure out what they were doing in the Pyramid, if you focused on the fact that it was really just a crazy ass light show with amazing sound, the magic disappeared. You can't think about it, you just have to feel it. This is one of those cases where words don't do it justice. This little video doesn't even really drive it home, but it does give a taste of what it feels like to be Daft Punked. Apparently this was the French Duo's last North American Pyramid show and all I know is I'm glad I didn't miss it. I've seen a lot of psychedelic shit in my day but I've never seen anything like Daft Punk. Robots are real, don't forget it.

Rage Against The Machine: Your Anger Is a Gift

Zach de la Rocha - RATM :: Vegoose 2007 by Rod Snyder
Does age make you meaner or softer? After more than seven years of hibernation, RATM has returned just as powerful and angry as ever, though perhaps not as tight or sonically overwhelming as their mid-'90s peak. As we enter an election year, their message is critical. Kicking off their fest-closing Sunday night slot with "Testify" and "Bulls On Parade" the crowd exploded on cue. Watching Zach de la Rocha spin his words over the beastly beats, there was a touch of nostalgia but this was no trip down memory lane, with a few unfamiliar jams and segues sounding just as good as gut-thumping sing-along staples like "Bombtrack" and "Bullet in the Head." Tom Morello continues to be one of the most versatile, ground-breaking guitarists of our generation. He was the first to pioneer the "DJ-style" kill-switch technique, and ten years later it sounds as fresh as ever. The intensity of Rage is nothing to fuck with, and there were mosh pits all over the place. I even saw one young lady almost daring the fellas as she danced around the pit. She went down like a sack of potatoes. Not pretty, but this is mean music for angry times, and she really should have shown better sense. The testosterone-fueled rap-rock bile that spills from RATM is certainly not for everyone, but the force of the music and pummeling rhythms are difficult to deny. And the union of de la Rocha and Morello is flat-out inspirational. Closing down the impressive, short set with a double encore of "Freedom/Township Rebellion" > "Killing In the Name Of" was a firm exclamation point that served as a fierce reminder of why Rage Against The Machine was one of the biggest bands of the '90s. Hopefully they can carry on into 2008 when we just may need these songs more than ever.

Muse: Three Is Enough

Matthew Bellamy - Muse :: Vegoose 2007 by Rod Snyder
Muse began their ginormous rock show with a nod to Daft Punk by leading with the same Close Encounters theme the French Duo used. This wasn't the only thing the powerhouse Brits shared with another band as drummer Dominic Howard sported a (could it have been the same?) skintight Spider Man suit similar to the one rocked by Mastodon drummer Bränn Dailor. Regardless of attire, Muse blew it out at Vegoose. Listening to the tight, powerful changes, it's no surprise these three have been playing together under different names since they were 13. Performing as Muse since 1997, there are few bands capable of pulling off a live show this passionate and technically proficient. Perhaps most impressive was their ability to create such a massive sound with only three men. The pounding rhythms and tension-release mechanisms were balanced with more delicate songs featuring guitarist-vocalist Matthew Bellamy on grand piano. While the balls-out rocking and insanely sharp drumming is what makes this band special, Bellamy is a damn fine vocalist who often overshadows his voice by propelling the band into incredibly heavy territory with his guitar. This is an explosive act that pulls from Radiohead and Rush but never sounds derivative. Easily one of the best sets at Vegoose this year.

Queens of the Stone Age: Kings of the Desert

Josh Homme - QOTSA :: Vegoose 2007 by Rod Snyder
Josh Homme loves the desert. He formed QOTSA in Palm Desert, California in 1997 from the ashes of Kyuss and never looked back, even when swapping out musicians. Taking the stage in the Nevada desert on a dark, black night, Homme and the Queens brought the faithful to their knees with thick, sludgy rhythms and impressive abstract heavy rock. While the Queens are serious about their music they clearly like to have fun, allowing Homme plenty of space to interact with the crowd and tell jokes, breaking down the barrier between band and fan, inviting all into his raucous world. Lots of heavier music alienates the ladies, but this is not the case with QOTSA. Busting out "Everybody Knows You Dance Like You Fuck" with pheromones dripping, Homme reminded us that Queens are always a very sexual, very dirty beast, much like rock & roll herself. However, it wasn't all fun and games. "Burn The Witch" off the band's stellar fourth album, Lullabies to Paralyze, worked a mean, thick groove with Homme's guitar work blazing atop the engulfing backbeat. There are few bands that are both this mean and this loving, and these fellas excel in the live setting.

The Shins: Breathe In The Air

There's nothing like being pleasantly surprised. I had somewhat low expectations for The Shins, figuring their well-honed indie-pop wouldn't transfer well to a marquee evening slot. I was mistaken. Dressed to impress, the band was far louder and bigger than expected. The Shins are known for crafting catchy songs and creating solid albums, but what you don't hear on CD is their ability to work a crowd, build tension, tweak arrangements, add weird noises, drop keyboard washes and elongate songs. "New Slang," the "hit" from 2004's Garden State soundtrack, was a welcome sing-along but it was the band's soulful rendition of Pink Floyd's "Breathe" that stole the show.

Public Enemy & Cypress Hill: Hip-Hop Ya Don't Stop

Cypress Hill :: Vegoose 2007 by Casey Flanigan
For 20 years in the biz both Public Enemy and Cypress Hill have proven they've got longevity. Although putting both these bands on stage at the same time was the most questionable scheduling decision of the weekend (that and putting Mastodon in the daylight), both acts proved mighty impressive. It was difficult to bounce back-and-forth, Cypress Hill's ganja-fueled discourse pulling hard, but it was Chuck D's political manifesto that won my ears. Beginning with the "It started on slave ships" sample leading into "Welcome To The Terrordome," shit got wicked quickly. The PE beats are simple yet heavy and effective, allowing plenty of space for Chuck D's commanding stage presence to run the show. Although Flavor Flav is a complete clown and proved embarrassing when he brought up his Flavor of Love VH1 show, the dynamic between Flav and Chuck is brilliant. You can't beat people over the head for an entire set with Chuck D's relentless, angry political rap, which is why Flav is in the picture. He's the joker who diffuses that energy, balancing it, allowing Chuck D to lead. Other highlights included "Son of a Bush," "911 Is A Joke" and "Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos." Check out the Cypress Hill Vegoose interview here.

THE BEST OF THE REST

Eugene Hütz - Gogol Bordello :: Vegoose 2007 by Snyder
*Gogol Bordello: The whole thing kicked off Saturday at 12:45 with one of the best sets of the weekend by Gogol Bordello. Burning mad energy as he ran across the stage, swapping guitars, picking up percussion instruments and singing his heart out, Eugene Hütz was born for the stage (and the silver screen - he's also an accomplished actor). After being evacuated from his home in the Ukraine in 1986 following the Chernobyl disaster, Hütz lived the life of gypsy-punk, eventually finding his way to New York in 1993. This ragtag group features a violinist, an accordionist, a percussionist, a drummer, two female vocalist-percussionists, a bassist, a guitarist and Hütz. They pull sounds from their native lands, mixing them with the bombast of rock, a touch of dub and cabaret, all running through the "Gogol Bordello New Music Intelligence." Taking a red wine bath to kick off "Start Wearing Purple," proclaiming "Music is our weapon" and finishing by throwing his guitar across the stage and telling the sweaty crowd, "We are your fucking friends Gogol Bordello," this was the perfect way to start Vegoose. Check out the Gogol Bordello Vegoose interview here.

*Battles: I had intended to spend more time at Battles, but playing opposite Gogol Bordello proved to be a conflict. I did however make my way across the short, soft expanse of lush grass (another nice factor at Vegoose is the minimal distance between stages) to catch two songs of their angular, math-rock. The band utilizes an array of loops (check out the video interview here for an in-depth discussion) to create big launching pads for their post-rock explosions to jump off.

Tyondai Braxton - Battles :: Vegoose 2007 by Snyder
*Blonde Redhead: This three-piece builds a sound that seems larger than their numbers. With dissonant guitars, heavy rhythms and hushed vocals, the frequent comparisons to Sonic Youth are apt. Often turned inwards with their shoulders to the crowd, the focus remained on their connection as opposed to "putting on a show." Of particular note were a few trippy, spacious interludes that turned on a dime and dropped into hard rhythms and sharp changes. Check out the Blonde Redhead Vegoose interview here.

*Thievery Corporation: Tucked between the rawk of QOTSA and the madness of Iggy and the Stooges was the hypnotic tranquility of Thievery Corporation. Casting a spell of downbeat grooves with slick, highly polished Indian, Latin and African flavors, this was a mesmerizing set that defied categorization. Featuring a full band equipped with sitar, several Grade-A vocalists and, of course, Hilton and Garza on the decks, the sound quality was remarkable, creating an atmosphere more like a bamboo hut in the Orient than a large field in Vegas. Favorites like "Lebanese Blond," the David Byrne collaboration "Heart Is a Lonely Hunter" and the twin Rasta MCs on "Focus On Sight" kept the mood festive, ethereal and slightly drugged-out. Check out the Thievery Corporation Vegoose interview here.

Troy Sanders - Mastodon :: Vegoose 2007 by Snyder
*Mastodon: After completing a very fulfilling interview with Sen Dog and Bobo from Cypress Hill, I wasted no time bee-lining from backstage to catch the end of the impossibly heavy Mastodon. Dressed like the satanic priests of metal, the band would have benefited from a night slot but there was nothing that could stop their power. Some can't seem to see past the guttural vocals, but this is an incredibly talented band capable of playing at inhuman speeds. Watching (and literally feeling) bassist-vocalist Troy Sanders and incredible drummer Bränn Dailor lay down heavier-than-hell foundations for guitarist-vocalist Brent Hinds to effortlessly solo atop was beyond comprehension. This is truly a band at the top of their field. Check out the Mastodon Vegoose interview here.

*STS9: Walking from Mastodon to Sector 9 was a trip. The bizarre, yet quite enjoyable, juxtaposition of these two bands drove home the eclectic nature of Vegoose. Where else could you go from grindcore sludge metal to livetronic dance-jam? For anyone who values a unique experience, this was one for the books. Standing amidst the swaying, euphoric masses, I was once again impressed by drummer Zach Velmer's pulsating precision and took particular notice of guitarist Hunter Brown's strong leads. This band is a well-oiled machine that takes the dance-jam world to a new place.

STS9 :: Vegoose 2007 by Snyder
*Infected Mushroom: Bred in Israel and based in L.A., Amit "Duvdev" Duvedevani's rhythmic vocals and thick accent washed against Tom Cunningham's trash-metal guitar and Erez Eisen's synth work for a unique take on psych-trance dance music. The heavy house beats had the crowd bouncing on pogo sticks while the slashing guitar forced many to jerk their necks in the classic head-banging style. Although backed by percussion and drums, this is clearly Duvdev and Cunningham's show. While a bit repetitive, their attack was simple yet convincing.

*Umphrey's McGee: Catching a few moments of Umphrey's McGee's rapid-fire changes had me wishing I showed up a bit earlier to their stage. The technical proficiency of this band is always impressive, and Vegoose was no different. Performing an abbreviated set could prove difficult for a band that generally plays for three hours, but UM prove consummate professionals, never letting an opportunity to rip through the minds of their fans pass them by. Of particular note was "Utopian Fir" > "All In Time" and the set-closing "Mulche's Odyssey." Check out the Umphrey's McGee Vegoose interview here.

In the wake of the third Vegoose there is speculation about the festival's longevity. Some have suggested that when Superfly and AC Entertainment set off on this journey they signed a three-year deal and now things will be reassessed. Can they make the numbers work? I don't know, but for this music freak, there are few festivals as enjoyable as Vegoose. Every year we are offered a diverse lineup that is sure to bring new sounds to your head. So, if they build it, I know I will come. But, talk of ticket sales, cash flow and groundless speculation about the future aren't for the fans. One thing I do know is that I got to see Daft Punk in that fucking Pyramid and that alone is good enough.

One More Time...

Continue reading for LOTS more pics from Vegoose...

Vegoose 2007
By Rod Snyder

Gogol Bordello
Daft Punk
Iggy Pop
Iggy Pop
Rage Against The Machine
Rage Against The Machine
Rage Against The Machine
The Shins
Atmosphere
Battles
Gettin' Hitched by Alice Cooper
Blonde Redhead
Blonde Redhead
Michael Franti
Michael Franti
Ghostface Killah
Ghostland Observatory
Infected Mushroom
Infected Mushroom
Lupe Fiasco
Mastodon
moe.
Muse
Public Enemy
Public Enemy
Queens of the Stone Age
Robert Randolph
Thievery Corporation
Thievery Corporation
UNKLE
Umphrey's McGee

Continue reading for more pics from Vegoose...

Vegoose 2007
By Casey Flanigan

The Shins
The Shins
Muse
Muse
Rage Against The Machine
Atmosphere
Cypress Hill
Cypress Hill
Public Enemy
Public Enemy
Iggy Pop
Iggy Pop
moe.
moe.
STS9
STS9
Umphrey's McGee
Thievery Corporation
Thievery Corporation
Queens of the Stone Age
Daft Punk
Daft Punk
Daft Punk
Daft Punk
Daft Punk

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PoRNoFUnK starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/2/2007 05:31PM
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PoRNoFUnK

man I dont know about the music but that daft punk set looked intense

btw FUCK YEAH ROBERT RANDOLPH!!!

johnnygoff starstarstar Fri 11/2/2007 06:41PM
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johnnygoff

Kayce said: "So, if they build it, I know I will come. But, talk of ticket sales, cash flow and groundless speculation about the future aren't for the fans. One thing I do know is that I got to see Daft Punk in that fucking Pyramid and that alone is good enough........One More Time."

nicely done aaron. for having your attention diverted amongst worldly debauchery, shooting video and catching some flops, this is a damn good writeup. Again, not kissin ass, but there was perfect mix of first-person experience and your analog breakdown....so, were you pimped backstage when you saw that girl go down during RATM or were you right up in the mix?

powernet Fri 11/2/2007 07:19PM
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powernet

nice review man... DAFT PUNK IS HOT HOT SHIT THE BLEW IT UP, vegoose was illen this year in different way but i thnk i had more fun this one than last one....... theivery corp is the shit moe and umph tore it ut soundtribe what!! sick sets alll day both days DAFT PUNK DAFT PUNK ENOUGH SAID

Col. Redbeard starstarstarstar Fri 11/2/2007 07:19PM
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Col. Redbeard

Great writeup and photos! Had a blast this year as with the past two! ... It's definitely changed over time - wish they'd bring back the stadium and the vaudeville tent, but hey- minor complaints. Bringing in the harder acts on Saturday changed the crowd quite a bit ... something about having Cypress Hill yelling "shoot 'em up" repeatedly and watching hundreds of people holding finger pistols into the air kinda killed my buzz a little, but we just wandered around and mingled for awhile ($7 Sierras x15 = $105, anyone?). Umphrey's latenight killed it, as can be imagined. Sunday felt more like past years, and it felt gooood. All in all, I must say it's been a blast to have been a part of this desert fest since its start.

Happened to be in line with Dan and Steve from ALO for the front car of the "Manhattan Express" coaster at New York New York on Monday afternoon ... heard amazing things of Las Tortugas and think I might try something new next year. Wasteland Vegas or Yosemite (and a mini-High Sierra) .... hrmmmm ;-) Maybe both?

powernet Fri 11/2/2007 07:26PM
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powernet

Apparently this was the French Duo's last Pyramid show and all I know is I'm glad I didn't miss it. I've seen a lot of psychedelic shit in my day but I've never seen anything like Daft Punk. Robots are real, don't forget it.

Tan starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/2/2007 07:39PM
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Tan

I believe in Daft Punk. So fucking sick, I have post robot depression.

chidodger Fri 11/2/2007 09:27PM
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chidodger

Didn't goto the festival, but went to late night shows all 3 nights. Moe wasn't "bad", but they didn't really do anything special and it got a little dull at times. Umph put on the BEST umphreys show i'v ever seen on saturday night (plus, being from chicago, I was bumping into people I went to highschool with almost 10 years ago). STS9 on sunday night was quite possibly the most energetic crowd I'v ever seen in my life (not sure why, but there were alot of friendly people with runny noses dancing their asses off). All in all, I had a great time, and hope that the festival returns next Halloween so I can make it a 4 year tradition of only attending the late night shows.

chidodger Fri 11/2/2007 09:42PM
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chidodger

ALSO -- I loved the layout and the sound at the Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel, however, didn't like the fact that they had more security than the Las Vegas airport, and apparently, your not allowed to sit on the ground, lean against the wall, or get drunk at that venue. Only saying this because I saw 3 different people get tossed, each for one of those "Joint" offenses, and in all 3 cases there honestly was no need to kick any of the 3 people out. The Hard Rock is also the trendiest place I'v ever been to in my life. I walked in and for some reason though I was at the MTV awards or something. Although I tried to dress a little nicer than I normally do, I couldn't help but look like a total scumbag walking in there (I guess I just can't shop and Kohls and party at the Hardrock).

naeco starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/2/2007 09:56PM
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naeco

The late nights were SICK!!! Umphrey's finishing the show with Ain't no fun... Now that was nasty... STS9 late night was fun as hell too... Everyone was having a blast at that show... As for Daft Punk.......that was sensory overload! Possibly some of the craziest shit I've ever seen... But, what the hell are those guys doing in that pyramid??? Washing dishes???

ScIFreak starstarstarstarstar Fri 11/2/2007 09:56PM
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deftone984 Sat 11/3/2007 12:37AM
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deftone984

ruh roh. look who's back. nice review, man.

ganjjjj starstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 08:39AM
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ganjjjj

just a thought....

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/random-rant-daft-punk-daft-plagiarists/#more-2460

Cleofus starstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 09:46AM
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Cleofus

ScIFreak, you are a fucking moron. talking shit about a place that you were not even at and furthermore, you claim you got on the Daft Punk bandwagon early by seeing them in 99 "when no one knew who they were". Their debut came out in '97 and they were all over the place that year, you dumbass were two years late thinking you found the next big thing, wanker....

All Loving Liberal White Guy starstarstarstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 11:34AM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

Oh man this looked like a good time! Although I heard from a friend of mine that the people who threw on Vegoose weren't too accomadating in the press area. He said there wasn't even any bottles of water for them. No bottles of water?!!!! IT's in the desert!!!!

All and all, the lineup looked sweet. good coverage crew.

To the fans who went to Vegoose that didn't at least try to catch Blonde Redhead or Iggy Pop.........You fucked up.

mickrod420 starstarstarstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 12:31PM
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SCIfreak, please don't be bitter b/c your band broke up. If sci was still together I bet you they would be playing sat night. But they got too techno and Nershi left...so Daft Punk plays. Daft Punk would have kicked the shit out of the blue grass-techno cheese was putting out anyway.

delaneyira star Sat 11/3/2007 03:17PM
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there you go jambase, keep promoting mainstream bands that dont need promoting... Nice little PR talk at the beggining... I dont want to hear it. keep being so nice, and slavishly open minded. Just ignore the musical values that got you to music festivals in the first place. Before you know it you will be at an emo show(or some other new contrived trend manufactured by the corporate music/fasion industry), and liking it... Lets face it, daft punk doesnt care about thier instruments, they loop and play samples. queens of the stoned age, all im going to say is my garbage disposal is more musical than they are. Muse, a highschool jazz band could play any of thier songs, they are all straight 4/4, and a little emo to boot. The shins, well thier just as useless and uninspiring as muse. To my knowlege the only people who listen to these bands are ugly college school girls who got thier braces too late, hate themselves for it so they lock themselve in thier dorm room and cry to this music. Public enemy, what can i say, flavor flav cracks me up. Ill allow it for comedy relief... That leaves one headlining band that seems sincere about thier music. ratm, uses thier songs as a vehicle to ship out thier political views, which i agreenwith mostly, and thier anger at a fucked up system that has invisible, figurative handcuffs on the brainless population at large. They pass, not for thier musicianship but for the fact that they actually seem to give a shit about what they are doing. The pre-adult-emo bands like muse and shins shouldnt have been allowed through the music fest doors let alone have such a large write-up in the jamband communities most read website. Lastly, look at the poor coverage Umphreys got. When it comes to technical prowess on the instruments, no other band there, including moe., can hold a candle to thier abilities. Yet, the coverage jambase gives them is disgraceful. Especially the coverage of thier festival apearences. Last week i saw them in boston. They covered shine on you crazy diamond. Perfect. Name another band on the scene today that could pull it off as well as um did. They deserve way more credit then they are getting. Every show they do is an intense musical accomplishment. Kind of how zappa's shows were. Not quite that sophistocated yet but they are damn close. So, there you have it. Those are the reasons why i dissapointed with jambases coverage as of late. Dont be fooled. The mainstream bands and more importantly thier corporat overlords want more than anything, access to our music loving community. Pay attention, notice how hard they are trying to herd us towards thier useless, uninspiring bands. Im done, proceed with the crying...

DrownedInSound starstarstarstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 03:21PM
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DrownedInSound

Scifreak - i think the name says it all, but i'm not one to poop on others parades... whah there weren't enough jam bands (but then again: moe., Umph, STS9, ALO, Franti - seems pretty jam friendly to me... go bitch somewhere else)... seriously dude, come on, talking shit and not even there? By the way, i was there and daft punk was the sickest shit i've seen in a long long while... (right up there with Volta, Arcade Fire, MMJ, and the last Panic run - those all being the best shows i've seen this year). This one of the most enjoyable, diverse festivals i've been to, and seems like a whole lot of peeps enjoyed themselves. I'm sure you've got plenty of SCI bootlegs to drink your haterade to, why bring it here?

Natey starstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 03:23PM
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Natey

Sounded like a great time, yet I am glad I didn't go. I went the first two years, and it only seems to be falling apart even further with less and less each year. I always love how musicians throw down in the "city of entertainment" but this year's festival seemed a lil' light. I would love to see all the bands that played, but I could definitely pass up rubbing elbows with some of the fans that I am sure were there this year (input, anyone?). No offense, I listened to this music when I was younger (P.E, C.H, RATM, etc) but I am probably too mellow to be bashin' around to it now. There was a ton of bands there that I would have LOVED to see, but then again I have seen them all. No mention of ALO? These guys are a great diverse, tough band. They work there fucking asses off, and over the last few years they've proven to be one of the better bans out there. I grew up in Yosemite (area), so this year I went to the Evergreen....perfect. Mellow, awesome music, friendly people, great vibes, endless positive thoughts. I am sure many minds were changed this year about ever going to Vegas for the Halloween weekend???

DrownedInSound starstarstarstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 03:33PM
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DrownedInSound

Delaneyira: all those band you like so much: Umph, moe etc, they get so much press on JamBase, i think it's great they give other types of music coverage. I was into jam bands many years ago, yes Umph are incredibly technically proficient, but what these headliners brought was a different vision with massive stage presence, and a huge sound. whatever, it's all personal taste, i find Umph, moe. etc to lack soul, they can play scales but to me music is much more than just scales, listening to QOTSA or Muse dig into dark pockets of madness does it for me, it might not for you, but that's part of the fun, it would be a boring world if we all liked the same music... lay off the preaching, it's not very becoming.

delaneyira star Sat 11/3/2007 03:53PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy Sat 11/3/2007 03:58PM
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All Loving Liberal White Guy

delaneyira, you talk a good game about technical skills and whatnot in bands but have you actually listened to battles. have you heard their new album "mirrored"? i think it's a safe bet that 9 out of 10 fans of either umphreys or sts9 will dig them. if you would have heard them (pending you didn't forget to take your Midol) you would'nt have gone on that pissy diatribe talking shit on JamBizzase.

delaneyira star Sat 11/3/2007 04:37PM
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Dead Spring Tour Here I Come!! starstarstar Sat 11/3/2007 06:37PM
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cuttyfives Sat 11/3/2007 09:46PM
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delaneyria, your posts are some of the dumbest I have ever read on this board. your perspective on life sounds like someone who puts the umph NYE tickets on mommys mastercard. umphreys sucks and your preaching makes no sense. If you are gonna write something, try to focus on a personal attack or flame war, adds some colorful profanity and try to be funny w/ an occasional sexist, racist or otherwise offensive remark. enough with the preachy, up your own ass shit.

BlewW044 Sat 11/3/2007 10:03PM
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