Zeppelin Reissues

I wonder who will be credited with writing the songs in the liner notes...

Are these the same studio recordings we have herd thousands of times in a new package for us to spend money on. Where do I sign up?
*note sarcasm

Gotta love Zep - the masters of reissues!!!

You guys are all dicks. Not everybody has these recordings and who the hell cares if they are reissuing them. Nobody is telling you to buy them. As far as the song writing credits, that was bitched about in the last zepplin post. Most of you dam people are so ignorant! My music is the only music and anything else sucks. Open your minds.

I am stoked to hear more live stuff from the NY shows. The song remains the same is the classic live ablum, mixing hard rock, blues and improvisation like no one ever had. Still one of the best live recordings ever. I dare say Zep and the Dead were originators of jam/rock n roll. The studio re-issues is obviously just a cash cow. So what.

"I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold"-R. Plant

emgriffi,

having been a zep fan my whole life (all 27 years of it), the first thing i thought of when reading this article was the same thing that mr krinkle said, another re-issue. they have so many why would you need another. it is a marketing ploy, if you are to nieve to realize that than pity on you and spend your money. but facts are facts. look at their catalog. they keep putting the same compilations together and renaming them

Wait just a minute! All of the songs that were in the original movie, but not on the album, are now available. This is HUGE! Since I've Been Loving You is my all time favorite Zep song and I've always wondered why it was left off the album. Plus the DVD has Misty, Over the Hills, The Ocean & Celebration Day...This greatest hits shit, "Yes, it's a drag, my it's a drag", but this other thing..."I'm about to lose my worried mind, oh yeah"!

Am I supposed to be impressed by your 27 years of being a zep fan sativa? If you are only 27 you were not even around when they made most of their music. The thing that I don't mind about reissues is it helps bring in another fan base with usually a better sound quality. You got to remember most bands recorded on vinyl and this is how the music is supposed to sound. CD's are missing this. It seems to me that most reissues work on this and are superior to the original cd recording. This gives the younger people a chance to go out and buy a good compilation. If you already have everything they have ever done (doubtfully, as you are only 27) don't go and buy it.

By the way, for those of you that have a problem with Led Zeppelin reissues and need something fresh, check out the Gov't Mule set from Bonnaroo '07 with JPJ. Not only do they do No Quarter, but they also do a great Since I've Been Loving You.

"houses of the holy" is easily in my top 10 favorite albums.

how can u talk shit about Zeppelin??????????
who gives a shit who wrote what,everybody was writing shit hoping Zepp would play it

We've done four already but now we're steady and then they went oochie-koo 1,2,3,4 oochie-kooo!

zzzzzz..... classic hard rock bands that are better: cream, blue cheer, free, sabbath, mountain, hawkwind, captain beyond, amon duul.....

For someone like me who can't get enough of Led Zeppelin, this is GREAT. I love "How the West Was Won" CD's and the DVD's. I could care less about another "Best of" package for Zeppelin, because I have their entire catalog. But, the remastered "The Song Remains the Same" DVD will be worth the purchase!

Led Zeppelin.....aren't they the band that regrets not being Sabbath?

i figure anything remastered by the band (read: jimmy page) will probably sound VERY good... and zeppelin might not be the greatest but they were one of the first and one of the best bands at what they did. i like them a lot, and i think it's gotta be pretty hard to really hate them

douche

Yes komah komah komah komah chameleon---all of those bands are beter than ledzep. i will say that III is badass and Houses of the Holy is sick. anything else (especially zoso) is way overplayed and generic.

i gotta agree with you kellerhead, III's always been one of my favorites... the first 4 albums are definitely the best, to me the albums weren't as good when they named them!

They better tour... and all you haters can stay at home and write negative shit on discussion boards, but ill be there lovin it.

I second the sentiments in the first comment (the one that is currently hidden).

kellerhead...man...your ears must be chock full of something that makes good music sound shitty. you should probably get that checked out. Zeppelin NYE 2007!

What the hell is going on here?

"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills."

Anyone that talks shit on Led Zeppelin either doesn't know a thing about music, or needs to get their head examined.

And, yeah, there are a couple reissues (not like they're all still around today) BUT there is also NEW MUSIC. I swear...some people post without reading what they're posting about.

the best zeppelin stuff is the rare live shows. they are pretty hard to find, at least they used to be. most of them were released in europe and imported, i haven't bought one since high school. anything from the 1973 or 1976 tours is good. i remember a version of dazed and confused that was over an hour on one show. they used to jam in and out of songs as well. some of the comments on here are ludicrous. your entitled to your opinion, but some of you don't make any sense when you write these posts.

Yea – I have to agree with most here. Non event. Seems like every 10 years, these “classic” bands do another box set with a new gimmick. For a band with 6 good studio albums, they sure are getting a lot of mileage. They already released 2 box sets, BBC sessions, 2 Best Of CD’s, re-released all studio CD’s and now this.

Maybe they will sound better remastered. Then that begs the question, why didn’t they remaster them properly the first time? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_Studio_Recordings_%28Led_Zeppelin%29

I agree with emgriffi. First, we don’t need to buy it. Second, we are all dicks.

My 2 cents - I, II, III, Physical. I reckon Houses is good too. IV has been overplayed to the point where I can live never to hear Stairway or Black Dog again.

Presence is often overlooked. Short album of the purest rock and roll.

kellerhead - overplayed and generic are flimsy criticisms of a classic band. can't blame the band when the public blares their music on repeat for years, then copies their style to the point of cheapening the original product.

if i were in a band, i'd wanna be overplayed too.

I don't think anyone should talk smack about zep, but come on, how many times can an individual listen to Black Dog in their life? I used to be a huge zep fan but it's all become quite boring to me. There is SO SO SO much music to listen to in this world, why does it have to be led zeppelin all the f'in time?

Mahavishnu > Zeppelin

and king crimson too

Mahavishnu Orchestra rules---good call Gmoo!!

If you feel the need to belittle Led Zeppelin...compare them to widespread panic again. Now that's an insult to any band. Refer me to one single wsp song that is timeless.
Most once appreciated LZ. There is some truly great songwriting in LZ.period
Seriously though. this release is simply irrelevant.

to all you zepheads and non-zepheads out there,the only differences to past releases to this release is that this one has pcm,5.1 dolby digital,dts,and the dvd has dvd/ HD dvd/blue ray.,all with these audio formats,so imagine listening to levee breaks in dts in remastered format.it will be like listening to all these songs[studio+live]in a complete new format.also song remains was recorded by eddie kramer in 5 sub-mixes,so the original mix only used 2 of these 5 mixes,this will be one of the best live concerts ever recorded.i am abig fan and no other band will ever come close to them in the studio/live format.also this idea will now give all the other bands out there a new direction to take----it has got very stale out there.

AYO KELLERHEAD tell kdud what u think of led zep im sure he would kick u in ur balls

actually emgriffi, sativa would not have been alive for ANY of the time they were making music... haha

Excellent point badfish420!!!

To all you cheeseballs that mock the greatest band in the history of rock, (I consider the Beatles more in the pop genre "I wanna hold you hand"...they went more into rock towards the end of their era) sit back, relax, and watch how many people purchase the new releases. Bands like the Stones, Beatles, and Who (& I love all of them) have gazillions of best of compilations...WAAYYY more than Zeppelin...Page is a genius, not only as a musician, but also as a business person...(which is rare in the music industry) ZEPPELIN RULES!!!!

If certain music fans continually have to convince others that a certain band is the greatest band in the history of rock, well, then they probably aren't. It's probably just an opinion. In my opinion, much of LZ's material is for those who are just discovering rock and roll. For those who have been listening to music for a while like myself, LZ gets boring, and at a much faster rate than any other classic rock band like a Pink Floyd or The Who. I just don't understand the point of this besides $$$$$, because they do have tons of compelations and box sets (remember those greatest hits cd's that came out 4 years ago and sold like hot cakes).

Now to pose the question: Why do people want to carry on the name of LZ as if the band stood for a positive message? The members of LZ lived their life to the fullest of excesses with practically no reinvestment to their fans who desperately loved them. They often took advantage of their female fans sexually, many times to the point of beastiality (I remember hearing one story about a shark and a groupie.) This band always followed the money, and when it was time for them to step up and shine after Bonham's death, they completely backed away from their music they supposedly loved. The one shining star has been JPJ; I think his performances at Bonnaroo speak volumes for his character and stance on music. Think of how many musicians Plant and Page could have influenced in their glass-half-empty years.

NOW GO PLAY LIVE MUSIC AND GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO MAKE YOU LEGENDS. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE, IT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR OTHERS ON A DAILY BASIS THAT DEFINES YOUR CHARACTER.

If certain music fans continually have to convince others that a certain band is the greatest band in the history of rock, well, then they probably aren't. It's probably just an opinion. In my opinion, much of LZ's material is for those who are just discovering rock and roll. For those who have been listening to music for a while like myself, LZ gets boring, and at a much faster rate than any other classic rock band like a Pink Floyd or The Who. I just don't understand the point of this besides $$$$$, because they do have tons of compelations and box sets (remember those greatest hits cd's that came out 4 years ago and sold like hot cakes).

Now to pose the question: Why do people want to carry on the name of LZ as if the band stood for a positive message? The members of LZ lived their life to the fullest of excesses with practically no reinvestment to their fans who desperately loved them. They often took advantage of their female fans sexually, many times to the point of beastiality (I remember hearing one story about a shark and a groupie.) This band always followed the money, and when it was time for them to step up and shine after Bonham's death, they completely backed away from their music they supposedly loved. The one shining star has been JPJ; I think his performances at Bonnaroo speak volumes for his character and stance on music. Think of how many musicians Plant and Page could have influenced in their glass-half-empty years.

NOW GO PLAY LIVE MUSIC AND GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO MAKE YOU LEGENDS. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE, IT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR OTHERS ON A DAILY BASIS THAT DEFINES YOUR CHARACTER.

Gmoo: That's simply your opinion...which is fine. But the masses and time will dictate how timeless Zepp is and will be. I predict that 100 years from now, people will be cranking Zep more than ANY other rock band in history. And as for the stuff about their personal lives...WHO CARES?! I admire them as musicians, not the other personal "blah blah blah" Most big music stars have plenty of baggage and skeletons in the closet. Could care less...ZEPPELIN RULES!

If Zepplin wanted to capitolize on everything then there would be tons of footage on DVD, more live shows, etc. There is very little video of them shot, and i'm sure that their label has more to do with the reissue than they do. I believe that they wanted to keep rock n roll in their purest form and didn't try to capitolize on what they were doing. I don't think that anyone needs convincing (nor do I try to convince) that Zepplin is the greatest rock n roll band of all time. The music and the era speaks for itself, at least that's how I feel about it.

Zeppelin does rule. And they were innovators. But no band can claim to be the greatest of all times. Music is a flavor. It's a matter of preference and perspectives. How does Led Zeppelin's music stand against Frank Zappa's music? Personally I like Frank's music much more than LZ's, but that's just me. How do we begin to even compare music giants like them? We can't. We need to appreciate the different kinds of 'flavors' our favorite musicians provide. Calling certain rock bands 'the greatest' is a problematic way to look at music because it hinders opportunity for growth. As long as we keep listening to music and allow it to inspire us, we are all on the right path.

Of course it's a matter of personal preference, but time and the masses still do contribute in determining an artist's mark on the world. Zappa's a legend...no question about it. You've obviously stated how much you like Zeppelin, and how much you prefer certain other bands...but ZEPPELIN RULES! People all over the world play Mozart's music 300 years later, because of his musical genius in classical music. With rock music...ZEPPELIN RULES!

hey Gmoo,
I find you way off and feel a bit sorry for you.
Rock and Roll has nothing to do with "what you do for others on a daily basis", or "what you give back" to people. or the positive message.
You missed the point.
It's about the party and the good times. (Listen to the words and maybe I wouldnt have to explain it to you)
Rock is a selfish business. and thats what people like about it. I could care less if LZ were a bunch of dicks or not.(I dont know either way. I dont care how they spend their money and dont care what they do with their sharks.)

I do believe however that if a band is harmful to society, Like the child molester from Phish,...Shame on all you people who continue to support that EVIL MAN.

What matters is the music, the magic, the religion, the God one experiences.
Now im a decent guy who doesnt do anything to harm others or do others wrong. (Peace, and Doing good and Sharing),I think youre a bit full of it.
calling a rock band the greatest, is only a positive thing. Trying to say its problematical seems anti to your ";Hippie" peace love attitude your preaching.
When I say "its the best band ever, its out of joy love and sharing and its interesting you would put down someones joy in that way.

P S ?Whats wrong with bands capitalizeing on their success? I think its great. The band makes money so we get more of them.

Don't feel sorry for me, I don't need your pity. I said nothing of peace or love and I don't know what you are talking about. I mentioned musical growth so that might be what you meant. I apologize for any logical arguments I might have made. Maybe you should re-read them after this disclaimer.

*****All statements made by gmoo are strictly opinion- based and are not meant to be inflammatory or harmful to anyone*****

Why does rock and roll have to 'not be about a positive message'? We make choices everyday.

Hey, gmoo, read the details of the story usually referring to as the "Shark Incident". You will find that the LZ boys weren't the culprits. Bonzo was in on the evenings entertainment, but wasn't the 'inserter', just the fisherman who coaxed the sea critter into the hotel room back in 1969. You mentioned Frank Zappa. Strange that you would use that name, since he was believed to be among those present in Seattle's Edgewater Inn, along with the Moby Grape members who filmed the alleged activity. Richard Cole, LZ's stage mgr and prankster extraordinaire who has often claimed to be the wielder of the dog-fish (not a mudshark as usually reported, but a member of the shark family)

But my point was only to state one thing, Led Zeppelin wrote the book on what rock music was to be, but also made the definition so wide open as to include sounds and styles never before thought to be useful among the rock musicians palette.
They stand up today far above most of their contemporaries, and for good reason: They were generally acknowledged as being masters of their arena.
Thank God that when Bonzo died that they dropped the chalice and left it where it should be.

The Stones: Brian died. So what? They just trampled his memory and continued.
The Who? Same thing, I guess drummers like Moon can be replicated, and might not even repeatedly embarrass them night after night with silly antics that probably got tiresome to the others.
But I need to note: I believe some of the best Stones music came after Jones was gone. I prefer the period of around 72. The Who, I really like their stuff as well. Beatles? Absolutley, Tull? Sure, Hendrix? He was a god, nothing less.

But the LZ stuff? It moved worlds, and it still does. Very few among the countless others are remembered 5, 10, 20+ years after their time.

The reissues? I may get them, but I have 68 or so LZ boots on LP, 65-70 shows on CD and nearly the same number on tapes. An assortment of the previous reissues. All the Firm, Plant, Diamanda Galas (w/JPJ), Heart w/JPJ, The P&P project cds + 10 full length vids of P&P shows from both tours (3 of the P&P shows, and 2 RPSS shows I attended). Only one thing related to the LZ members that I proudly refused to ever purchase (or even steal) that piece of shit he did with that rapper, thus raping Kashmir. Page's values dropped in my book immensely when I saw that disaster on MTV back before the P&P project.

You have all made good points, however I love live music, and I am from a younger generation, and having seem Plant once open up for The Who when I was in high school I would love nothing more than to see Plant and Page together rocking the fuck out. Music is great to listen too, and it will go on forever, but live music is a totally different thing, and the experiences that you have while at a show are things that will go on in your memory, and will make the songs that much more important to you for the rest of your lives. Live the music.

A 2003 release on DVD already had a lot of stuff that is being re-issued. You can find it on Amazon. I think someone said it best. It is a way to get new fans. Zeppelin was great, but they are Zeppelin no more. Next!

I love, love, LOVE Led Zeppelin, but I've already listened to all of their studio stuff ad nauseam, and I'm approaching that level with the live stuff. Therefore, this reissue is not for me. Still, I think it's great music, so, you know, somebody else could buy it, and that would be OK with me.
I also love all of the bands mentioned in all of the comments so far. Except for Mountain. Yuk.

Wheres the Bisco??

Where is bisco.....in ATL oct 12-14 along with Phil and a slew of other great artists that's where.

I am shocked and ashamed at some of the postings here.
mentioning other bands, not even included in the story, is completely senseless and mundane.

BEATLES ROLLINGSTONES VELVETUNDERGROUND ALLMANBROTHERS GOVTMULE MC5 CLASH ASSEMBLYOFDUST OLD&INTHEWAY FUCK YOU VEGOOSE

Yes LZ is one the, if not the best rock-n-roll acts of all time - but the evidence that has come to light about not giving any credit to original writers of the large number of songs that now appear to be covers should be remedied. The DVD looks promising - the CD - if you're colelctor - enjoy - 99.9% of fans have multiple versions of all those songs already.

I was just kidding. I dont listen to the Disco Biscuts. It just seems that every message board eventually talks about them. I was just helping the natural progression of things.

Mark18: That's not evidence that's come to light...I've heard that since the early 80's...and it doesn't matter...they've written more amazing originals that were not derived from their heros, than most other bands ever have...it doesn't matter...ZEPPELIN STILL AND ALWAYS WILL RULE!!!!!