Marillion: Downward Into Blue Sky

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We've always strived to write the perfect song. That's what it boils down to really. You don't want to be the best musicians or have the most flamboyant music, you just want to write the best songs.

-Pete Trewavas

 

One of the hallmarks of Marillion is how well they listen to each another, especially for such top-flight musicians who could easily solo endlessly and showboat over the other's parts.

Fish
"We don't really think of it in those terms but I suppose we've grown together in a way. There's a natural empathy for what each of us does, and a huge amount of respect for what we do together," says Trewavas. "What ends up coming out of a room with the five us playing is just something special, and there's no way of knowing why. You can't analyze it too much. It just happens and it's great when that spark is going on."

Even after 10 studio albums with Hogarth, they still get blowback, from press and fans alike, for the departure of original vocalist Fish, who's remained an active solo artist, though always closely tied to his '80s work with Marillion, which remains his meal ticket.

"Occasionally, you get the diehard fans, the ones who scream the loudest, but that's really the exception rather than the rule. What we get is less about Fish than about being a band who's been around for so long," Rothery observes. "So many journalists have preconceptions about what we stand for. It's a cliché but the whole 'Scottish heavy metal band' for some people or Fish's theatrical elements. That's incredibly frustrating if it's just a case of lazy journalism. We had two reviews of the [new] album in the main daily newspapers in the UK. The one in The Times was an excellent piece but The Telegraph just completely slighted it, but it was obvious the guy hadn't listened to the record. It's so easy to trot out clichés."

Like Faith But Not Faith

With their own recording studio and label, Marillion has an enviable independence, especially amongst working bands.

"Now, to be in the position not to have interference at all from a record company is the best possible situation for an artist to be in. Financially it also makes so much more sense because you only have to sell a fraction of the records to sustain a decent career," comments Rothery. "When you sign to a major label, depending on your deal, you make well less than a [British] pound a copy. We sell an album directly, and depending on what edition it is, we can make 10-15 pounds a copy. All of the sudden, you can sell half as many albums and make twice as much money. It's insane to sign a deal – which we've done in the past – especially with independent labels, where you get an advance and your lucky to see any royalties after that. At least doing it our way helps ensure the continued survival of the band. With the way the industry is going, with so many sales lost to downloading and CD copying, in a way we're in a better position to survive than a lot of bands signed to major labels, tied up in contracts for years and years."

The last time Marillion made it across the Atlantic was a mostly acoustic trio of Rothery, Hogarth and Trewavas in 2005. This very intimate setting made abundantly clear that despite all the usual bells and whistles in their work, the core songwriting is amazingly strong.

"You've got to get that right. If you can play a song on one or two instruments and get the point across, get the feel across, then everything else will come together and flow," says Trewavas. "What's nice about those kind of shows is it gave us a chance to pare the songs down and give people an idea how the songs may have been put together in the first place, before the production and the extra bits and pieces get put on. A song always has a starting point, and that's what we were taking the arrangements back to. It's amazing to have just three of us perform [a song] and still have the same intensity, and sometimes more intensity because we can get quieter. There isn't the same sense of volume or performance in an acoustic show. If somebody whispers more people will listen than if somebody shouts."

Right now there's no firm plans for a U.S. tour behind Somewhere Else, but Trewavas remains hopeful. "You never know. We're personally pushing for it because we'd love to come back. Whether the reality can happen, well, I don't know. The problem we have is we can do both coasts and dip into the Midwest but there's a whole area where we don't know what to do. Logistically and financially it doesn't always make sense, which is really sad. It's a huge beast to try and conquer, and I don't think you should even try to conquer it in one go."

Unlike many of their peers, this hardly seems the end of Marillion's story. There's still music to be harnessed, feelings wrestled into poetry you can lift a pint to, and these five gents are just the ones to do it.

"All being well, we've got at least another three or four albums in us. Provided we all last that long [laughs]. I can't see any of us doing anything else really. The chemistry and magic we have together is quite unique and we'd be insane to stop," says Rothery.

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[Published on: 7/5/07]


 

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PhishWSP starstarstarstarstar Thu 7/5/2007 06:55AM
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I am pretty sure I have never posted on jambase before (even though I have read the site for years), but a full length article about Marillion has me ready to jump out of my seat. They have been one of my abolute favorite bands for over 20 years. Even though they have never had a big following in the USA, their fanbase worldwide is PASSIONATE and has enabled them to accomplish so much musically and otherwise (Guiness Book record, annual Marillion Weekend, a tour of the US that was paid for in advance by fans, etc). I rank them personally along with the Dead, Phish, and WSP as my all time favorites. I saw the original lead singer (Fish) about 10 years ago in OH and then caught Marillion in 2004 in DC and Philly. When the Philly show ended, the crowd refused to leave and chanted for over 10 minutes with the house lights up until the band came back and played a song with the instruments that were still on stage. This type of enthusiasm is common at one of their shows. Check them out if you can...I would suggest the CD's "Marbles" and "Brave" from more recent times. If you want to hear old school Marillion with Fish at the helm, check out "Clutching at Straws" or "Misplaced Childhood". Great musicians, great music and lyrics, incredible songs...Long live Marillion!!!!

‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› {¬¿¬} starstarstarstarstar Thu 7/5/2007 09:41AM
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I learn something new almost everyday. I have never come across this band before.

Radio Ryan starstarstarstarstar Thu 7/5/2007 06:06PM
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Radio Ryan

I, too, have never posted to Jambase, although I read it very often and have done so for many years. I'm just so happy that the "prog-rock" aesthetic isn't scaring people away. I'm proud to admit (gulp) that I'm a huge Yes and Rush fan, along with Ozric Tentacles, Phish, Grateful Dead, and even heavier progressive stuff (gotta love Sweden with Opeth and Pain of Salvation) and to see Jambase feature such amazings acts like Marillion, things are moving in the right direction. I've been to Bonnaroo, Big Wu Family Reunions, Big Cypress (the holy grail ya know) and when you are in a place with people of the same mindset, amazing, cosmic, wonderful things DO happen.

CHEESECAKE

Bandito Fri 7/6/2007 06:03AM
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Bandito

I saw Marillion perform inside a record store shortly after "Fish" left the band. Great stuff I still like their older albumns too.

indiscipline starstarstarstar Fri 7/6/2007 04:17PM
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indiscipline

I've been a fan since a couple of my friends turned me on to them. They are one of the better bands out there. I love the fact they do respect their fans and listen to them (even though were spread around the world). This is a band that has and still puts out quality music. These guys have a real D.I.Y. ethic, with a following that'll be there supporting them at every turn. Thanks for the article.

karacter0 starstarstarstar Fri 7/6/2007 07:23PM
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karacter0

Nice dennis. I've never heard of them before and I like what I just listened to. This seems to be the exact opposite of the fratboy-friendly bands covered at roo.

I'll take this instead of Ryan Adams or John Butler any day.

Where should I start looking if I want more of his David Bowie sounding stuff like "Thankyou whoever you are"?

Whiggy starstarstarstar Sat 7/7/2007 12:17PM
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I had never heard of Marillion until I started working at record shop in Grand Rapids MI. Marillion has a very devout following in this area. It's good music. Not something I'd ever be die-hard about, but I can understand why people are. Pretty cool to be reading about them here.

EVILFUNK Mon 7/9/2007 08:22AM
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EVILFUNK

Never heard of this band before but they sound most interesting.

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Mon 7/9/2007 08:22AM
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EVILFUNK

Never heard of this band before but they sound most interesting.

PhishWSP starstarstarstarstar Mon 7/9/2007 06:49PM
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To Karacter0 and/or anyone else interested...on their official website, Marillion offers a "crash course" CD of material as an intro to the band. The CD is either free, or has a minimal cost (I think the first one you order is free). They update the CD every so often. I looked at the track listing for the most recent version and it has some great tracks from the last 10 years or so. The direct link to the page on their site is:

http://www.marillion.com/music/racket/crash.htm

I am still in shock that they are featured on Jambase. If they could get more US press like this, maybe we could get another tour after all. The US tour in 2004 was unbelievable!!!

karacter0 Mon 7/9/2007 07:40PM
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karacter0

I've already submitted my payment. Thanks.

hiddentreasure Tue 7/10/2007 02:59AM
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They should write a song about Beren & Luthien Tunuviel.

Glenith star Wed 7/11/2007 10:19AM
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Glenith

They used to play a lot of Marillion on the Jam band channel on XM satilite radio... I hated it. I thought they had no part in the jam-band scene. I love prog-rock and jam-bands.... I just don't like Marillion... at all.

ProfFrink starstarstarstarstar Wed 7/11/2007 01:48PM
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Wow, 12 comments before someone took a crap on the band...is this some kind of record?

snappy Wed 7/11/2007 03:07PM
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snappy

ProfFrink, you stole the thought right out of my head. It was a nice positive ride while it lasted...

EVILFUNK starstarstarstarstar Thu 7/12/2007 02:40PM
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EVILFUNK

LETS SEE...TWELVE PEOPLE LIKE THIS...AND ONE DOESENT. NOT UNCOMMON IS IT? SOUNDS LIKE THEY GAVE THE BAND A LISTEN AND EXPRESSED THIER OPINION HERE...WHATS WRONG WITH THAT?

karacter0 Tue 7/17/2007 10:28AM
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karacter0

I agree ^^^^. The little bit I heard didn't sound very jammy. The guy wasn't even hateful about it.

PeterDAmore starstarstarstarstar Fri 7/20/2007 01:00PM
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I've been a huge fan since 95, and love a lot of their albums. I am amazed and grateful to see an article for them on Jambase, who I used to write articles for back in 2002!!
I will say that their newest album, while not my favorite, has generated the most publicity worldwide for them. I believe they will return to the states next year.
If you are new to them, check out 1995's Afraid of Sunlight or 2004's Marbles. Both are awesome productions with a ton of variety. Lastly, check out my website an album that is somewhat Marillion influenced!

www.peterdamore.com

Thanks!