BISCO/UMPH FESTIVAL

BISCUITS PRESENT NEW FESTIVAL WITH UMPHREYS MCGEE
JULY 13-14-15, 2007
TRANCEGRESSION (a D.U.M.B festival)
COPPER MOUNTAIN - COLORADO


Disco Biscuits & Umphrey's McGee by Vann
Get ready to join Umphrey's McGee, the Disco Biscuits and many more for the First Annual Trancegression Festival in beautiful Colorado this July!

Both bands will headline separate venues in the Denver / Boulder area on Friday July 13 as well. Tickets for these club shows will only be available as a Three Day Pass with the Festival ticket.

Three day passes on-sale exclusively thru each band's fan club starting Friday April 13.

General public festival only tickets go on-sale Friday April 20.

Stay tuned for more information and full lineup.

http://www.trancegressionfest.com

[Published on: 4/2/07]

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21Gooch starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 03:45PM
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finally.

owu47 Mon 4/2/2007 03:49PM
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this is what im talking about... i'll be there for sure

lovelivedos starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 04:02PM
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lovelivedos

this is gonna be sick. just what the festival season needed.

roxysurf273 Mon 4/2/2007 04:02PM
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Best idea ever! Im so excited!

BGsteveBG starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 04:21PM
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BGsteveBG

Damn my chicago area residence.

The1AndOnlyDJCT starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 04:44PM
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This sounds amazing, two of my favorite bands putting together their own festival! Too bad I work and can't make it out to Colorado.

Lot Dawg starstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 04:53PM
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Lot Dawg

Camping Festival?

Innaheights starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 05:36PM
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Innaheights

I wonder if simon posford is gonna be there. does this replace camp bisco? Maybe they decided that the east coast wasn't working out.

Shineonsyd24 starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 05:50PM
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Shineonsyd24

thats the best news i've heard all day!!

example1 Mon 4/2/2007 06:00PM
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example1

holy smokestacks batman!

dfreshvt Mon 4/2/2007 06:24PM
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WHY GOD WHY must they compete with All Good? Not fair...

Cotsy starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 06:41PM
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Cotsy

RAGE and ROCK !!

gmoo starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 06:52PM
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gmoo

This is bittersweet. It seems like they should find a common place between their collective cities (Chicago and Phili) rather than host this festie far from home in Colorado. Saying that, this should be unbelievable. It's about time this festival took place. These two groups have been blowing this scene up. I'd like to throw STS9 on the top as well, but these groups have simply been jamming harder and playing with more of an attitude than the Tribe as of late. Add Simon Posford, Lotus, and That 1 Guy for good measure.

jackstraw1984 Mon 4/2/2007 07:45PM
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jackstraw1984

The best part of this is that it'll keep all the bisco kids from being at all good. many thanks to these guys for staying so far away.

thebum Mon 4/2/2007 07:48PM
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thebum

Has anybody actually gotten the trancegression site to load? That page has been blank white since I first tried to load it on Friday, and the Biscuits site has been solid black. Does my computer hate me, or is it the Biscuits I should be suspicious of?

dudeski3 Mon 4/2/2007 07:56PM
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dudeski3

Is skiing possible in the summer? I'd like to have Umphrey's greet me at the bottom of a mountain and melt my cold face in to oblivion.




(Don't worry, I know I can't REALLY happen.... The skiing that is.)

fsmid16 Mon 4/2/2007 08:17PM
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fsmid16

might be a little selfish cause i live on the east coast, but fuck now no bisco and umphs at All Good for sure

beadiamondsomday starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 08:34PM
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beadiamondsomday

fuck you um, seriously this or allgood? wtf? good thing i didnt buy my tix yet. that moe. allstar jam was going to be awesome, oh well. long live the braindamaged eggmen.

Zcolip starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 08:40PM
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I'm buyin my plane tickets today! I'm buyin plane tickets today! Hooray!

phreak89 starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 08:42PM
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phreak89

why the hell is Copper getting all this increadble music the two years after i move. this blows. but it does look like an awsome new fest.

rulosa01 starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 08:43PM
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hippiesnames Mon 4/2/2007 08:48PM
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phalluscooper Mon 4/2/2007 09:27PM
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phalluscooper

All Good does have a nice line up but no matter how you slice it you're still in the land of Deliverance. Here are some quotes from the film as you ponder that strange vehicle that has been following you for the last 13 miles...

Bobby: Talk about genetic deficiencies-isn't that pitiful?
Drew: Goddamn, you play a mean banjo.
Mountain Man: I'm gonna make you squeal like a pig. Weeeeeeee!
Bobby: Weee!
Mountain Man: Weeeeeeee!
Bobby: Weee!
Mountain Man: What do you want to do now?
Toothless Man: [grinning] He's got a real pretty mouth on him, don't he?
Mountain Man: Ain't that the truth.
Toothless Man: [to Ed] You gonna do some prayin' for me, boy. And you better pray real good.

Oh well....it's ALLLLLL GOOOOD.

Dwizard Mon 4/2/2007 09:37PM
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Sounds good now add Lotus,STS9, Mel Tone an some other freaks and we're really talking!

Dwizard Mon 4/2/2007 09:39PM
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never mind just saw Lotus is at Allgood. Ya just can't hold something called transgression without Lotus and STS9.

Shane Mon 4/2/2007 10:01PM
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dude! what.... the... fuck......how could they....do this to me.. why! whyt would they put this festival the same weekend as all good.!? wut are they thinking!? this hurts me bad. thanks.

whodoyoudo Mon 4/2/2007 10:37PM
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whodoyoudo

wtf phallus cooper

im afraid

bsclowds starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/2/2007 10:55PM
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sts9 is only playing 7/13 at All Good. They could still very well high tale it to Colorado for this inaugural fest

mreezal Mon 4/2/2007 11:40PM
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mreezal

brain damaged eggmen encore?? say word son

claypool4life Tue 4/3/2007 06:05AM
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vcd106 starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/3/2007 06:34AM
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This is gonna be sick. CO music scene getting more and more spoiled.

Innaheights, there's no way this replaces Camp, and they def are not deciding that the east coast is not working out. Camp has seemed to be getting better and better each year, and will always stay in upstate NY.

msb696 Tue 4/3/2007 07:09AM
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Don't they have any professional courtesy?

I have no knowledge of the jamband booking/promoting scene, but I'd imagine that it's a small group. Seems like trying to start a new festival the same weekend as an established festival is a dick thing to do - even if it is on the other side of the country.

jhrt3349 Tue 4/3/2007 07:15AM
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jhrt3349

phalluscooper, you read my mind. I'm pondering going to Allgood but I don't want my buddy Burt Reynolds to be forced to kill a mountain man having sexual relations with my other buddy Ned Beatty

I hope the inbred kid with the banjo gets added to Allgood and jams with Leftover Salmon, now that would be some good ole mountain plucking!

T. Ralph star Tue 4/3/2007 07:47AM
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breadloaf starstarstar Tue 4/3/2007 07:52AM
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The inbred banjo kid is still kicking strong. I read something about him last year, I think it was the 25th anniversary of Deliverance, and they found him working in a cafe. The best part is when they finish their jam he looks away, as if totally uninterested. Nice touch. That and the aforementioned Nedly tryst with the toothless, um, gentlemen.

gregoir Tue 4/3/2007 08:18AM
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There is only one Camp Bisco and it will be on the East Coast. This is just a way to expand the audience out west. Seems like it will be more of a stay in hotel go see the show kind of thing as opposed to a camp out.

burtnrdr Tue 4/3/2007 08:21AM
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yaaa Jackstraw... u said it first

gmoo starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/3/2007 08:23AM
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gmoo

What's the over/under on self-absorbed, too-unorginal-to-do-anything-but-bitch-and-moan haters on this message board? The magic number is five, and we got one so far...get a life. It's funny this person thinks The Disco Biscuits are lame, but he or she used the word 'bisco' to describe them.

cavemandan Tue 4/3/2007 08:37AM
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for sale 2 all good tickets.... leave me a meassage... i can't go to all good because looks like I will be in colorado insted!

hippiesnames Tue 4/3/2007 08:39AM
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hippiesnames

this will be my 4 th year at all good best freindly and most relaxed festival that is on a bigger scale fest
not a small fest with only 2000 thousand people or something
support this fest on its 11th run
umphreys and biscuits are great but come on braindamaged eggmen is like a allstar cover band

phishr82 Tue 4/3/2007 08:43AM
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phishr82

if any of you are in CO now, check out coppers free concerts for the rest of ski season. keller and galactic played saturday....for free. copper has some sick terrain, if you;re into mountains and whatnot

cavemandan Tue 4/3/2007 08:43AM
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damn it why did I buy all goods?...argghhh... ok looks like ebay or here to dump them... wher eis the all good thread to post tix for sale?

manida Tue 4/3/2007 09:36AM
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manida

any camping near Copper Mountain? Can we camp on-site?

I guess we'll all find out soon enough.

hnkscrpio Tue 4/3/2007 09:39AM
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hnkscrpio

Yeah I'd really like to find out if this is a campout festival, it kinda hurts the budget to have to pay for like five nights at a hotel on top of getting out to Colorado. C'mon camping fest.

VAteonanacatl starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/3/2007 09:54AM
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VAteonanacatl

sounds sweet, wish i didnt live in virginia

SaveTheRobots Tue 4/3/2007 10:47AM
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SaveTheRobots

Hum, bisco and um.. together, in colorado.. coming from chicago.. sounds like a road trip for me.. ill just have to wait and see how much money i spend at summer camp!

mcallis1 starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/3/2007 11:05AM
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I live too close to pass up AllGood, sorry no Bisco this summer....Sure it will be a blast!!!!!Nice for the shout out cavemandan, fuck LoS!!!!

tate79 Tue 4/3/2007 11:13AM
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Duh its colorado, the rocky mountains. you can always camp if you want to. damn i wish i lived in colorado

BobSacamano starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/3/2007 11:32AM
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The Brain Damaged Eggmen need to go on tour!

manida Tue 4/3/2007 12:06PM
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manida

"Duh its colorado, the rocky mountains. you can always camp if you want to. damn i wish i lived in colorado"

tate79, well, if youve ever been to Colorado, you'd realize that the etire state is NOT a campground. yes, I realize we can camp, but I dont want to be 2 hours from the venue...especially with the mtn. passes and freak weather we'll be driving thru.

dantron7 Tue 4/3/2007 12:14PM
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mcallis1 Tue 4/3/2007 12:39PM
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Yea sts9 is below the biscuits...Way below

dantron7 Tue 4/3/2007 12:50PM
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good one mcallis1, lol

mcallis1 starstarstarstarstar Tue 4/3/2007 01:01PM
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It is a good one, you cant compare phish to the biscuits...Phish is done and the biscuits march on!!!!!

zzdowz Tue 4/3/2007 01:10PM
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zzdowz

Sounds like a plan!

dantron7 Tue 4/3/2007 01:21PM
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dfreshvt Tue 4/3/2007 01:34PM
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Looks like we'll just have to head the wagon train south/southeast from high sierra!!!!!!!

phreak89 Tue 4/3/2007 03:28PM
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phreak89

i really don't know how much camping there will be. i used to live on Copper. ever since the bastards Interwest took over they built up shit load of hotels and stuff. it's changed a lot in the past 8 years but it's still one of the greatest places in the world. if anything they might have have people camp on the side of the mountain, other than that, i'm really not sure where people would be able to camp. i can't belive i'm gonna miss this fest.

knibbs Tue 4/3/2007 05:27PM
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knibbs

phish & bisco? don't even get me started on that one.

Bisco is far from spectactular, sure they are cool (in some aspects) but far from awe inspiring, unless your all drugged up (which most kids appear to be). Now w/BDE, I was at the USTORM Benefit show in Chicago last weekend and that was by far the nastiest 5+ hours of music I've seen in a minute. Sure there were a bunch of covers, but "Fearless," "Chameleon," and the version of Bisco's "Home Again" were retarded. Don't want to spoil my upcoming review for you all, but it was this night that inspired this little fest. I guess Bayliss lost some bet to Browstein. If there are tapes of this night get them, also be on the look out for video from the show b/c there was cameras throughout the crowd!

weirman029 Tue 4/3/2007 07:31PM
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christophershirley starstarstarstarstar Wed 4/4/2007 01:30AM
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christophershirley

^i just love the maturity kiddies like this possess.

um, bisco & co in the summer what more could one ask for??? cant wait.

Frank Wed 4/4/2007 06:24AM
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Frank

What's bisco?

anothertribekid starstarstar Wed 4/4/2007 06:36AM
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STS9 late night at ALLGOOD one can't not miss...IMO
but damn man..Colorado is the shit..and Disco comes close to being the shit in my book..please dont book shpongle or ill fucking cry

Kemosloppy Wed 4/4/2007 06:43AM
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Kemosloppy

yeah seriously

ndharper Wed 4/4/2007 07:34AM
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This is a bad idea not only because it is the same weekend as all good, where both bands played last year, but it sounds like there is a lot of traveling back and forth from boulder and denver, and it doesn't sound like there is any camping included in a three day pass. I am a huge fan of both bands but there is no way I'm coming out for this one.

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 09:12AM
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Frank Wed 4/4/2007 09:47AM
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weirman029

"there music is unorganized, they cant sing, or play, good light show but overall"

I can agree with you on the vocals...but unorganized? Are you serious? They kick some pretty sick jams, more composed imo.

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 09:57AM
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weirman029

to each own.. or something like that, for me its unorganzed and i just dont like trance music other than zilla... ive seen bisco a few times and its just a molly and x fest, im not too into that... way more of a bobby fan

manida Wed 4/4/2007 10:20AM
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manida

"to each own.. or something like that, for me its unorganzed and i just dont like trance music other than zilla... ive seen bisco a few times and its just a molly and x fest, im not too into that... way more of a bobby fan"

Zilla compared to Bobby? Apples and Oranges my friend.

I dont do drugs anymore but The Disco Biscuits rule my face every single time! Jon "The Barber" Gutwillig, to me, is the best guitarists on the scene today. This band is the definition of "locked in" while onstage. Not too many other bands have that going for them right now. There are a few, but not many...at all. RAQ comes to mind as a band that is :locked in" and hardly mentioned. I prefer them WAY MORE than SCO, UM or even moe.

Hey, I like Ratdog too though.

manida Wed 4/4/2007 10:21AM
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manida

sorry for the typos on the above post

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 10:36AM
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manida Wed 4/4/2007 10:49AM
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manida

Ive seen Ratdog many many many times. Ive seen the Grateful Dead many times as well. Ratdog is may favorite spinoff project to come out of that whole family. Dont get me wrong, I LOVE Phil Lesh but Ratdog, as a band, is the most interesting music for me right now in that whole corner.

I LOVE Kimock (you probably dont even realize how much), Herring (why is he with WSP?), Karan (completely underrated), and especially Derek Trucks. I get it man. Those are some GREAT guitarists youve mentioned and I'd be an idiot to disagree.

But with the genre of music that the Biscuits play (livetronica or trance-fusion---whatever you want to call it) Barber is the effing man. He consistently blows me away. Believe me, Ive seen PLENTY of amazing bands in my life and TDB is the one that currently "does it" for me. Im addicted. He's the reason I even listen to trance-type music. I was never a fan until I heard him play. And I think TDB is the only band in that genre that I care to listen to...theyre THAT good.

manida Wed 4/4/2007 10:56AM
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"I can agree with you on the vocals...but unorganized? Are you serious? They kick some pretty sick jams, more composed imo. "

Setho, I couldnt agree more. They have the nastiest jams of any band on the scene. As a kid, I LOVED "The Other One" because its just so nasty. Then, in college, I followed Phish around just to see the jams get nasty. I didnt care much for all the silliness of Phish. But now, with the Biscuits, they dont mess around. They get nasty pretty damned quick and keep elevating that level. Its taken me about 17 years to come to this appreciation. Long live the NASTY jams. Its what Im there for.

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 11:03AM
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good man.. thats awesome, same for me but with ratdog, and ratdog is a spinoff of the dead, but i think theyre even more than that... like this generations grateful dead, they have a very similar crowd, smaller, but same deadication and touring stuff, shakedown, whatnot... from the younger folk at least... and karan is underated, and hes only been getting better and better... i just peronally dont get much out of trance music... keep enjoying music man, see you at some ratdog

Zapzapa Wed 4/4/2007 11:18AM
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STS9 @ Red Rocks is where i'll be, D.U.M.B. festi is exactly what that is, bisco is really good but when i saw umph last i was bored...STS9 all the time

dantron7 Wed 4/4/2007 01:13PM
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^^^Omg there has already been an abundance of ignorant posts on this thread but i think you just took the cake buddy! tDB is riding UM coattails in the livetronica scene! The Biscuits are the BIGGEST contributors the invention of the genre, and UM doesn't even really play this genre. Sure Sts9 does something totally unique, just like tDB do, what you are failing to realize is that these three bands all do their own thing and they all do it very well

but, please, for the sake of not blatantly exclaiming to this website that you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, do not say that "bisco is not a livetronica band and there just on umph's coattail" because that's probably about the most ass-backwards statement i've ever seen

manida Wed 4/4/2007 02:11PM
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manida

I truly believe that Ozric Tentacle paved the way for all of these bands. Ozric are the pioneers of livetronica.

mcallis1 Wed 4/4/2007 02:22PM
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I would say that tDB are awesome, so what if they cant sing...I will be at AllGood and it wont be the same latenight without tDB. I do believe they are a livetronica band, if you dont believe that then you are fucking insane.....What does that little guy play....Oh a jproland 80000.....Thats electronic to me...

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 02:38PM
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jackstraw1984 Wed 4/4/2007 02:40PM
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manida, youre right on the money with the ozric tentacle comment. those guys did it first and did it best. i'm really open to try any kind of music, but the disco biscuits absolutely killed any chance "livetronica" had with me. In the smae brath though, I can say that I would give a foot to be able to play guitar like Jon Gutwillig. It really is to each his own on this, I'm just glad Bisco's X-filled scene won't be at All Good. I hope everyone has a great time in Colorado, but I'd be happy if they did this tranceyfest nonsense the same weekend as All Good every year. that's my two cents. it'll be a great summer for all!

Rainking04 Wed 4/4/2007 02:40PM
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Ozric Tentacle paved the way for all of these bands.

def. see your point, i was focusing more on the "scene" that all of these bands are coming up in. It's definitely a lot more complicated, as bands like air have been doing somewhat similar things for a very long time. But within this group of bands especially, and even worldwide I would say the biscuits are pioneers in their own right

gmoo starstarstarstar Wed 4/4/2007 02:49PM
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gmoo

Why are people talking about phish like they are still a band? Come on, its like saying "Umphrey's is ok, but man you should really check out Hendrix". It just sounds really really really dumb. Number 2, X and molly fest. I'm pretty sure there will be many other treats at this festival besides MDMA, and the fact that you are all stereotyping is just really really dumb. And third, I've seen STS9 eight times, including three jam-in-the-dam shows in the their entirety. They have a unique and fun sound, but they don't jam like UM or TDB. They just flat-out aren't spontaneous and never venture from the 'STS9' sound. Don't get me wrong I love the STS9 sound, but their whole show is almost the same structurally and tonally.

mcallis1 Wed 4/4/2007 03:01PM
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Right on gmoo, Phish is dead.....So everyone needs to stop talking about them. So I guess since no Bisco @ALLGOOD that means that there wont be any molly,rolls or K there....Give me a fucking break...There will still be the same guttertrash hippies as before....What kind of folks roll around with RatDog......Fucking drugged out losers

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 03:32PM
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weirman029

... not really at all, ive seen bisco.. it was almost impossible to find any acid at that place, i found one hit from a nice guy (one of the only friendly guys i met) who had one to sell, everyone was just selling rolls or molly or k, and thats pretty much all that was there..... to each his own of course jackstraw, anyone could argue this for days.... but the difference between bisco,sts9 and the dog and the non electronic scene is that the molly and x and k at the radog shows are mostly from the bisco heads who come for a couple shows... most of it is just the lsd, and just genuily kind, open, and happy people... and you dont get the same atmosphere at those shows... if you do, than thats great, dance your heart out... but if your going to say the people who follow the dog are drugged out losers, thats like saying the grateful dead had losers follow it.... and thats just plain naive

mcallis1 Wed 4/4/2007 03:38PM
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Actually they did have some losers...If you quit your job to follow around a bunch of heads that seems to me that you are pretty worthless..You eat all the sid you want young boy and see how far it gets you....Its really all about making money....Arent you from jersey...I quess all that pollution from NY is clouding up your thoughts...Only one guy had acid.....Maybe you just look like a douche and everyone is mean to you....Call you mother and cry to her..

mcallis1 Wed 4/4/2007 03:40PM
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I am a Panic fan...So that might explain my thinking

cavemandan Wed 4/4/2007 04:03PM
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let's flashback to 1998...cavemandan (yeah me) in dressing room with bisco at a prestigious state college venue, where they were opening up for some band that prolly isn't even around anymore... why i love bisco is they took advice, had self confidence, kept a great attitude, played wherever, whenever for whatever, and they basically do take the music to the next level... i wouldn't care if they never got as big as they did... i would still see them... support them and turn people on to their sound... it is unique... u hear terms like biscoesque these days when other bands tinker with trying to open that combination of fearless exploration and the whole bisco kids on k,x, and m is very reminesent of both Jerrys kids and phish kids.... i've been drug and alcohol free for more years than most people have been using and I get so freaking high listening to them play... i love energy...and Bisco brings me there... a bisco show in 2000 i was thinking, wow this is cool...been awhile since i seen them... oh wow look at all the fans now...first 5 minutes i was like ..yeah they are ok as usual...but then like majic, some musical switch was turned on and i was absorbed deeper into the bisco trance than I had ever been before... i found myself spinning as effortlessly as at any dead or ratdog show...the fans were great... hugs were everywhere...nobody forcing anybody to take any drugs....years go by again and i check in to new years tweeter show and langarado...where once again I am musically blown away by everything from the quality of sound, to the performance to the videos and light show to the fanbase... this is the only band that i would consider coming out of retirement to jam with...besides my own of course lol... sts9 late night was awesome... moe has gotten tons better...so many other bands can bring it...it just seems with Bisco you get it or you dont...but if you get it ..YOU REALLY GET IT!...do you get it?... i remember biscos first touring fan...the kid drove from mass to pa to see them and it kind of set the stage for all the thousands to follow....i remember them saying "he followed us from mass"... i said "get used to it"...lol... i agree about Ratdog right now... last fall I finally got to a Ratdog show, and I love his new lineup...the sax adds the accent...the hammond the bass and the drummer all fine indeed...of course no comment on the lead guitarist... who coul dever fill them shoes?... he did A fine job, but i commented would be cool to see just Bobby on guitar... i am just not sure how great Ratdog would be now if they didn't play ANY tunes the dead did... kind of what happened to Phils attempt... was ok..but just not feeling it... anyways... no need to stop bitching and complaining is what free speech is all about!..... keep posting!

mcallis1 Wed 4/4/2007 04:10PM
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CavemanDan...You rock and I repect you standing up for everything you believe in...I love the biscuits and I GET IT...Unlike most of the people posting threads....I get it, I really do!!!!! Much Love Bro

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 04:33PM
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mcallis1
:: alright, this is why your biscuit head man... down right mean, not to say theyre all mean, and im not going to go cry to my mom, that was funny by the way, but its just not nice to be mean, you should go back to your mom and have her teach you how to treat people. and sure some quit their jobs, some do a couple weeks here and there, but there so happy when they do it they could give a flying fuck what you think about them. if you want to talk about stereotyping, then keep talkign about new jersey like that, sure there is pollution like any other state, but i actually live in countryside where its probably more environmentally friendly and beautiful than wherever your from. so keep doing your x and molly and your k and put holes in your brain, im sure thats good for you, if you do some research, youd see that lsd used in the right way can some people new perspectives on thinking and logic, all x done is drown you out and make you mindless... and your such a nice guy, im glad im not part of your scene....and caveman, you are so right, its completly about energy, i dont have a problem with bisco or trance music, i just dont like the energy i get from it imo.... all the kids ive met have just been rude and unpleasant, thats fine if they want to act like that but i just dont like it.... im glad you can stay clean and get high from the music, you should come to more ratdog shows because karan, recently, really has come out, he has a lot more power than he used to, and the whole band is just exploding right now....

deftone984 Wed 4/4/2007 06:13PM
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deftone984

when are they making a camp announcement? anybody heard any rumors? need to be bisco-shpongled again.

knibbs Wed 4/4/2007 06:30PM
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mcallis1 that's too funny, no losers on GD tour? HA! Ratdog is exploding now? Ok I don't really know what that means. Bobby's the man and all, but seriously they are not on the "cutting edge" of modern music.

Orzic Tenticles are uber nasty, way better than the disco biscuits and they've been doing theire thing since the early 90's! And anyone who calls Chicago is ok in my book. I feel bad for you (weirman029), but you have brought this amongst yourself. Aqua Teen Hunger force is from Jersey, right?

weirman029 Wed 4/4/2007 06:38PM
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danpfunk Wed 4/4/2007 10:17PM
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You are all wrong. Because my band is better than your band.

danpfunk Wed 4/4/2007 10:30PM
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cavemandan you have nothing to say but negative shit about everyone but Bisco. Funny how you had such a great time at Langerado when you were so convinced it was gonna suck.

Guess what, different people "get it" at different moments and with different bands. Thats great that you knew the first biscuits fan ever or whatever the hell the point of that story was. Here is another biscoesque flashback, in 1998 people were saying "Gee, the Disco Biscuits sound like they are trying to imitate Phish's latest trance sound".

On another more positive note, this fest looks almost too good to be true. If I didn't have friends a couple hours drive from Allgood I would plan my summer around it. Festy competition is always good for the consumer!

Frank Thu 4/5/2007 06:26AM
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Frank

Apple buttered toast is nice!

manida Thu 4/5/2007 07:35AM
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manida

Different music moves different people in different ways.

The last time I checked, we're all posting on a website about jam-based music. So, apparently we all enjoy similar aspects of different types of music.

I dont get the bashing that seems to ALWAYS happen on these boards.

Hell, Im not an electronic msuic fan, at all, but I love the Disco Biscuits.
But, you know what? I also LOVE bluegrass. I have ever since I was a young kid. Am I gonna get bashed for that?


So, to keep the spirit alive: your favorite bands sucks!

canoftunapudding Thu 4/5/2007 08:27AM
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Deliverance was set in NE Georgia, not West Virginia

mcallis1 starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/5/2007 10:21AM
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Weirman029- I dont even use those club drugs, my friend died 6 years ago on k,molly and nitrous. So, that not my thing. i dont need shit to enhance my expierence. That is just your age talking in that one. And yes all of jersey is a shit whole....A industrial wasteland..I love electronic-bluegrass music...Weir=old worn out songs....tDB=something new

beatstock Thu 4/5/2007 10:46AM
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beatstock

wow i just feel like some peoples feelings got wayy out of line? okay ozric tenticals have been doing their thing way before the early 90s...they started this "live-tronica" genre you all are so in love with, i agree with weirman, biscuits are from my hometown and every show that ive been too the crowd is just rolled out of their skulls and mindless. the band themselves seem more like some sick joke played on the crowd rather than getting "nasty" i actually never heard the biscuits get "nasty" since 1999, and then they did play with heart, but now they realized that they can do whatever they want and you fans will just eat it up. go check out that new video they made, its soooooo cutting edge dont you think?! UMPH you had my respect about 2 years ago when you actually believed in your musical talents, now arent you umph fans bored or did you all jump on the bandwagon after they washed up? granted these guys make a living doing what they do and noting will ever be good enough for people in this day and age, but come on you make a living off the people that respect you, and my respect for both these bands is non-existant becuase i saw what they were capable of and now they are just producing the bare minimal. anyway ALL GOOD = OZRIC TENTICLES(gods), LOTUS (real trancegression), STS9 (good with computers and making you dance) ratdog (HIPPIE LOVE), and lets see if claypool can actually get a real band together this time around, C2B3 PLEASEEEE

cavemandan Thu 4/5/2007 11:21AM
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danpunk actually in 1998 it was moe who was emmulating phish... as you clearly see I have upped my opinion of moe since last show.. still not worth driving any length of distance to see specifically but def worthy of playing with all the other bands of approx equal caliber...yeah I am anti TOOL i guess... i just don't get it... sounds like a few guys, a joint, and a garage got together... Ratdog was a smoking show ... i guess that is negative again?...maybe it is you that is negative and others are just posting opinions?.... i'm all about freedom of speech...it's only the internet and none of these words really matter... i remember when phish went public and all my deadhead friends bitching to me about them... who woulda thunk?... i am just stating the obvious... the next band to follow phish will be the disco biscuits...and what i mean is that they will be the band playing stadiums, arenas with a lot scene and crazy vibes.... do u seriousley think the dead would be so big if the drug subculture didn't prevail?... who is kidding who?... well i love bisco and bisco kids rule!...if they can handle their drugs...let them have the same freedoms other generations did with experimentating...if the drugs fuel the crowd that builds the bands fanbase...so be it...as for the vocals...do any of these bands have great vocals?...lol... we r her efor the jam... and btw the bisco vocal dept has improved incredibly, but i never had a problem with them anyways since they were just being themselves and not trying to be copycats like say dark star orchestra... sorry you could not see the point about the first fan and the transgression in a relatively short time from 1 fan to thousands.... i will try and write a little more direct now on, so as not to lose you along the way....there really hasn't been anything new out of our scene since phish besides Bisco... i guess that is my point... you are always welcome to join the growing bisco family.... they are cool that they let so many other bands open up at shows....so you never know... your favorite band may be next!...until next post...

gmoo starstarstarstar Thu 4/5/2007 12:13PM
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gmoo

what happened to the music and why can't anyone who is messaging on this board describe it objectively? In these insanely long and boring messages ive been reading, ive heard a lot about energy and GD nostalgia, but what about the music? Has this scene lost its f$cking mind? You guys talking about jam culture is so lame its ridiculous. I guess EVERY music scene is nothing but a damn pissing contest, with the jam scene being no exception. What about the music? Can any of you objectively describe to me what trance music is, or what bluegrass music is? Do you even care? Today I am sad to be a jam fan. I always thought this scene was about AWARENESS, and it was MUSIC FOR THE MIND. Apparently is music for the mouth.

manida Thu 4/5/2007 12:35PM
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weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 12:38PM
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weirman029

mcallis, if you want to keep argueing thats cool. im just here to meet new people and talk good things about music, gmoo, your right man, this whole shit is stupid,we should just get along and respect other peoples opinions.... and you dont know anything about new jersey, so its good your as arrogant as you are on that subject... but thats fine... have a good day, and im sorry about your friend, and for your information, i think its immature to be talking about someones age and then just insulting them about shit you dont even know, youve never met me, your making all of these assumptions off of a little page on the internet... so take it easy man..

ps... your sooo rigth about weir, hes so worn out, hes a has been ALWAYS HAS!!! haha

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 12:52PM
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I not argueing...I went to school at WVU and most of the jersey kids are tools...Sorry just stating the obvious...CaveMandan and mcallis1 have just joined forces to spread to word of Bisco...What will you when Bobby dies..join the bisco crowd

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 12:53PM
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Weir blows, Ratdog blows, etc.........I have opinions that need to be vented

gmoo starstarstarstar Thu 4/5/2007 01:11PM
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gmoo

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote Madina. I don't think these genres need to be explained. I'm just trying to maybe spark a conversation rather than...Ratdog blows, TDB blow, Umphreys blows, Bob Weir blows, Jersey kids blow. All this shit talking and no one can describe the music in an objective manner that makes any sense. I feel for these people who can't objectively articulate anything about the MUSIC they supposedly love, but have no problem running their mouth about the CULTURE of the scene and the apparent pissing contest it has created. Either these fools on this board are high schoolers or they wish they were still in high school (probably more likely), because this name-calling is just a bunch of stupid teenage drama. Phish is gone. GD is no more. The Disco Biscuits will be gone someday too. These things happen. Why don't you f$cking deal with it, find a band you like, and enjoy the music while you are still alive rather than argue on jambase about who is the biggest loser. P.S. IF YOU BOTH THINK EACH OTHER IS THE BIGGEST LOSER, WELL I GUESS THAT JUST MAKES BOTH OF YOU LOSERS IN THE END.

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 01:12PM
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never man.. its not my scene, your right too, there are idiots from every state... out of 8 million people, im sure 8 million of them suck, i love jersey, but there is a reason why i go to school in vermont... and you obviously know good music if you think ratdog sucks... weir just turned 60, hes not going to die anytime soon... hes said it himself "im going to play until i cant walk anymore" or something like that.... so enjoy your bisco man... thats opinion, i disagree.. its all good

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 01:16PM
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your just adding to it man... ive been saying that i love my ratdog, for me, no other band compares, for others, theres no other band other than bisco ... its all about opinions... and i love this scene so much, its just some people think some poeple are better than others and really try to act like it... we need to just get along and respect peoples opinions.. were all here for teh music

manida Thu 4/5/2007 01:21PM
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manida

Did I call or even imply that ANYONE is a loser or that any band sucks? (Ok, I did make a lame joke on a post at 7:35AM)

I see no reason for anyone to be upset about anything written on this thread. This is all in fun dude.

Whats with the hostility? Chill the fuck out gmoo.

manida Thu 4/5/2007 01:25PM
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manida

What IS funny is that some people take these message boards WAY too seriously.


gmoo, how about giving us an example of the type of objective comments you'd like to see on this board, rather than just bashing everyone. Youre adding NOTHING BUT NEGATIVITY to the conversation, man.

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 01:29PM
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weirman029

... true that!!

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 01:34PM
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I am really enjoying this...If only you people would have this much emotions on something that really matters like our enviornment....Then maybe something will get done..Instead bitching and crying is all I hear..They are mean, they dont like my band, my band rules, yours suck,,its cold and hurty...Fucking cry babies...I will continue to piss everyone off....That is my first admendment...So i will use it..Actually, 6.8756million of the 8 are fucking douches....Im not in H.S. but gmoo who cares??? Only you I see

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 01:41PM
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weirman029

shut teh fuck up man... you sound liek an asshole, how you do know my views on our environment... your like in your own world of just insulting people, youll make a lot of friends that way buddy haha... and no ones crying, your actually just proving my point that bisco heads are asshole... listen man, im gonna go because your not worth my time, but have a great day haha

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 01:42PM
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weirman029

* a lot of typos, was typing fast, sorry

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 01:53PM
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i have all the friends that I need...It is little shitheads like you that add fuel to the exsisting fire...I hope your at AllGood so I can dose you out of you fucking mind...So the hippie sell me fake sid at a Ratdog show is not an asshole...They should round up all the worthless acid eating hippies like you and shoot you in the head...it will save us all a lot of trouble..I will have a great day thanks to this big spliff of Alaskan Thunderfuck...Actually, I live below the Mason-Dixie line..No wonder i dont get along with northerners..

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 01:56PM
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weirman029

wow... your so angry

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 01:58PM
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weirman029

... your threating me... because i dont like bisco HAHA, this is priceless... im sure ill already be dosed out so thanks anyway..

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 02:02PM
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Im not angry nor making threats...Im just cracking myself up...Sorry I will stop..The offer will still stand, look for the WVU flag...Later

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 02:04PM
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weirman029

"It is little shitheads like you that add fuel to the exsisting fire"... sounds angry to me ha

"They should round up all the worthless acid eating hippies like you and shoot you in the head..." -- sounds even angrier!!!!

have a great day


RATDOGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

manida Thu 4/5/2007 02:06PM
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manida

"Actually, I live below the Mason-Dixie line"

That explains a lot.

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 02:08PM
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You have too much time on your hand....Go study.

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 02:10PM
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What does that explain there buddy, that I grew up on an old plantation in South Carolina...Yea, I did so fucking what?? Thats Old money

cavemandan Thu 4/5/2007 02:15PM
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wvu...so you know the recipe?... i rememeber when they were staples in the jam band circle... along with blkue miracle... yeah i love the contreversy on this and other boards... i stirred the pot on the toolaroo thread about TOOL blowing and their fans are Tools...lol... so many took everyword so seriously when I was just messing with people... i even said i was messing with them and they get upset... but my bottom line has always been who cares?

weirman029 Thu 4/5/2007 02:15PM
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haha.. it looks to me like you have just as much time, no your bragging about how rich you are HAHA ... classic classic.. its been fun man PEACE

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 02:25PM
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Yea Ive seen them a bunch...You heard of Rasta Rafiki..They are from here too, but no longer around..I guess they dont get it...But I do, I do...Hit me up if your coming to allgood, Im about 20 minutes away..Who cares right?...I will do this shit all night..this is where I shine..

mcallis1 Thu 4/5/2007 02:26PM
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Cave mandan----Speaks the truth...At least he can do this without getting so upset...like 98% of the people here..I guess there pussies are bleeding

cavemandan Thu 4/5/2007 02:47PM
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thanks mcallis... i will look for u at a festy and share some stories with each other.... i wonder if biscuteers is still online...lol...yeah why get upset at posts or start name calling?.... weirman is def a ratdog fan... that's cool... i liked ratdog also, but if i were to choose between ratdog and bisco ...same nite, same town, different venue i would pick bisco since is so unexpected and un predictable, whereas you know almost excately what ratdog will play

jackstraw1984 Thu 4/5/2007 02:54PM
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goddamn can't we all just get along. you know what the funny thing is, i bet everyone on here would get along great at any fest we happened to meet at, so is it just the anonymity of the message boards that turn us into assholes? After all Russell from Stillwater said it best:

"And you can tell Rolling Stone magazine that my last words were... I'm on drugs!"

"I think we need to work on the last words!!"

"Ok, ok I got it... I dig music."

We all dig music, and (there's a good chance that) we've all been on drugs at some point and most likely wil be at one of these two festis. It just depends on who you are and whatcha like. So let's all just chill and listen to the music play. Cause that's what it's aaaalllll about. Am I wrong, Dude? Am I wrong?

kmoxcey Thu 4/5/2007 04:27PM
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hey weirman029, does ratdog have e-drums yet? aucoin is the hot shit...

Dizon311 starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/5/2007 04:53PM
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Dizon311

Why dont you guys get in a private chat or something to argue it out. This is LAME! THank god for good music coming to the mountains cause Im sick of driving to denver all the time to see MY BOYS! SO this once.. NANER NANER NANER! FUCKERS! I live an hour away im so happy! Ill be front row BITCHES.. and probley no camping better get your hotels now.
(*)(*) BOUNCE YOUR BOOBIES!

Dizon311 starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/5/2007 04:59PM
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Dizon311

COLORADO COLORADO COLORADO COLORADO COLORADO!

Is way cooler then you angry stupid FUCKS! I hope you dont come here. LOSERS!
PLEASE LEACE ALL YOUR NEGATIVITY ON THE EAST COAST AT ALL GOOD!

beatstock Thu 4/5/2007 05:59PM
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all good and umph/bisco fest being the same weekend is a good thing. it will stir up the all good crowd from the past couple years and give west coast kids a place to party without having to drive all the way into the land of the hillbillys. I SWEAR ON MY LIFE that driving thru Terra Alta to get to Trips Farm (sunshine daydream) that i saw somebody with his pants around his ankles and positioned behind a SHEEP!!!! that is no lie, on my life guys. But seriously i have one question about this D.U.M.B. fest..? didn't biscuit and umph fans have some rivalry like up until a year ago?

travymcgriddle Thu 4/5/2007 06:57PM
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ohhh man im slow...i just realized why its called D.U.M.B (i think?) disco.umphreys.mcgee.biscuits...damn and im not even a bisco kid

haha just kidding i love all the bands at all good, and both these bands...and im from the east coast...guess im contradicting everything

peace and love bitcheessss

phreak89 Thu 4/5/2007 07:17PM
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how the hell did this whole thing turn from talking about a new fest on Copper into a full on battle of the bands, opperative word being battle.

cavemandan Thu 4/5/2007 07:52PM
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i used to preach that it was all about the music... but now I don't think the music even matters that much.... all that matters is we are alive and healthy.... we stay out of jail and avoid getting arrested.... some like to use it as a way to make money selling food, glass, drugs, whatever.....some like to go and hope to hook up with their soulmate for the day or weekend....some like to watch people and some like to be watched by people....some just like bein goutdoors and go for the late night campfires and sunrises.... some go to preach ....some go to paint pictures.... some go to meditate....some are there because they had to... some are working...some are just trying to have the best time of their lives by sneaking in for free and bumming everything....some want to daydream and some come to chat.... yeah there r many reasons people show up.... music is not the reason we are congregating...it's the excuse.....i hear music in my head all the time... i rarely even have to listen to any since my mind can hear it and i can listen to whatever i want and whenever i want without bothering others... sometimes it is great to catch majic moments of blissful transgressions.... otherwise it all sounds so rehearsed and repetitive.... chorus verse chorus verse....yawn...so original...lemme guess ...singing about love or ecology or politics.... yeah yeah ... it's been done...i'm on the next wave after jambands
the post jamband movemment when we finally meet on a collective consciousness of reality.... where people dont have to lock their car doors, where nobody sold anything but rather shared it where we were so pure and simple that there was no reason for anybody to get arrested or obnoxious....but whatever... yeah it's all about the music to those naive enough to believe thats true.... go ahead... but don't complain that many of us don't really think it's all about the music, but rather it is a way of life....all the time...please read this post twice before you reply to it since so many people don't read into anything anymore and jump to spontaneous assumptions and then post...... we are all guilty of that....complaining about complaininers is a paradox.... that drove spock crazy

The Grand Wazoo Thu 4/5/2007 08:54PM
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I am so down for this if there is camping.

Schweizappa starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/5/2007 10:08PM
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String Cheese will probably be there since when they were last at all good there was a flood. I think it'll definitely be better than all good if that is the case. All Good's weather is sketchy, where as colorado will probably be beautiful in the summer. If SCI is there look for that heady triple wide with Kang on the violin. There is no stopping the Brain Damaged Eggmen you can only hope to be contained with them in the same venue.

vcd106 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/6/2007 07:59AM
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May NE/MA dates just announced, so the East Coast has some more to check out. I'd expect Jam on the River to be the next announcement along with some more dates.

Sorry to be off topic, and noting biso info.

CheesyPhishBiscuits starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/6/2007 08:12AM
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weirman029, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. the biscuits are raging right now, especially with a new drummer that had to learn a shitload of songs in such a short amount of time. open up your eyes and actually go to a biscuits show, maybe it'll change ur mind. trancegression in colorado is where its at

Rainking04 starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/6/2007 09:44AM
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"But seriously i have one question about this D.U.M.B. fest..? didn't biscuit and umph fans have some rivalry like up until a year ago?"

maybe there are some jackass fans who want it to be that way, but the fact is the bands are GREAT friends and they love to play together. And in the same way as there are GREAT bands there are also a lot of GREAT fans who love their music. I'll take tDB over UM or any other band at this point, but that doesn't mean i have any pre-judged opinion on any other band's fans. What's great about this moment is there is no single band that everyone follows around. If you're into the old you can go catch ratdog or panic, or with the new there's tDB, sts9, umphrey's, or about a thousand other bands. I wouldn't trade that for the world

For people who stereotype tDB fans and it gets in the way of your enjoyment of the show i wish i could meet some of you at a show, smoke a bowl, and i could explain that that's really not what this band is all about. They make music that goes to another realm of improvisation, utilizing technology for those means in a way that is uniquely their own, and i love that shit.

jackstraw1984 Fri 4/6/2007 09:57AM
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well said rainking. i feel bad for my first comment, this has actually been a pretty civil message board (compared to the one when jamabse announced SCI's demise...that got really personal and nasty) All you biscuits fans on here have made me want to give them another shot. hit me up next time they cometo ashevegas.

bBlack starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/6/2007 11:09AM
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My two favorite bands, can't beat that. No doubt this festival will be sick. It will be interesting to see what setlist UM will play, I assume they will play their more "trance sounding" songs to keep with the feel of the festival.

TheDestroyer Fri 4/6/2007 11:12AM
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rumors that Greyboy allstars and Galactic doing after shows in copper for trancegression

claypool4life Fri 4/6/2007 04:40PM
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I just want to thank Weirman9 you spoke my exact thoughts. Maybe once Brownstein starts wearing has normal the rest of the tweeks will to.

claypool4life Fri 4/6/2007 04:40PM
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His Hat*

Makisupa_McGee starstarstarstarstar Fri 4/6/2007 05:05PM
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trancegression - what a great name, you obviously tell that theres going to be some dark, angry jams. its going to be unbelievable!

if my good buddy wasnt getting married that effen weekned, id have a plane ticket already

if youre squeamish when it comes to nasty, hair raising jams youre better off staying away from this one

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jeffkeyes starstarstarstarstar Sat 4/7/2007 10:40AM
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My parents just moved literally to the base of Copper Mountain, I think I am probably the most excited person for this festival. 2 of my favorite bands (and more Im sure) playing a festival in my parents backyard this summer... What more could I ask? Anyone who has never been out to Colorado needs to go to this festival. Absolutely the nicest place (Summit County is beautiful), and the sickest bands playing there... I'll be the one running around telling people about the party back at my place afterwards (which is literally a 1 minute walk from the stage). Can't wait for this, everyone should know this festi is going to be INTENSE. See you all there!

mylesmagoo Sun 4/8/2007 10:51AM
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WOW, this thread is rediculous. Music is for you to enjoy, and spread good vibes oppose to bashing other groups fanbases. Umphreys and bisco happen to be my favorite 2 bands now, they are different types of music. Different strokes for different folks.....some people dig the biscuits, some umphreys. Thats how it is, no need for hating on one another. As for the "you guys must be in high school" comments, im 16 but know better to get involved in stupid unnecesarry arguments on forums. With that being said i'll see you umphreaks at nokia in a week and you bisco ppl at conspirator in a month or so, PEACE.

Maestro starstarstarstarstar Mon 4/9/2007 10:06AM
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Maestro

SHUT THE FU*K UP AND DANCE

anTiCirCle Mon 4/9/2007 12:42PM
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anTiCirCle

wow...i feel like a loser just for READING that whole ridiculous argument...i can't imagine what you guys feel like

toeknee420 Mon 4/9/2007 12:54PM
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toeknee420

My Doctor said I need a Back-E-Odomy

weirman029 Wed 4/11/2007 05:31AM
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weirman029

hey hey guys... i havent looked at this in a few days, but im glad i started this whole controversey ha.... but just for the record, bigd816921 and mcallis, insult me all you want, i think its funny, i mean, we think differently, that doesnt mean either of use dont know wat were talking about... we just think differently... and i do think bisco sucks, but you guys think ratdog sucks so watever...


and i wanted to thank this dude for understanding where im coming from...

claypool4life :: 4/6/2007 4:40 PM 0

I just want to thank Weirman9 you spoke my exact thoughts. Maybe once Brownstein starts wearing has normal the rest of the tweeks will to.


have fun at that festie guys, im sure copper mountain will be sick, but not for me, take care....

mcallis1 Wed 4/11/2007 09:45AM
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Listen Weirman/Claypool... You are the most pathetic motherfucker out there...Sorry I didnt know you guys were so fucking emotional..Booohooo you fucking wookies....Bisco heads unite..Also Panic is way better than Ratdog aka name stolen from CatDog(Childrens TV show)...late

weirman029 Wed 4/11/2007 04:11PM
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... im not here to argue man, for some reason, you think i am, and i dont know why you think im upset either... but your just an angry cat and thats not too cool... go love your bisco man, no ones stoppin you, i kinda dont want to do this anymore because its retarted, i mean im sure if we met at a show we would get along just fine... so keep gettin your panties in a bunch about it man, it doesnt bother me none....take care

mcallis1 Wed 4/11/2007 06:18PM
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I dont like cats but I love taking panties off of my girl..I agree we would prob get along until you opened up your fucking pie hole...Im out of stuff to say

grand_poobah Thu 4/12/2007 01:43AM
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take yer own panties off mcallis1...god yall suck some sphicter...i dont wanna party with any of you sour fucking dildo suckers...wow

grand_poobah Thu 4/12/2007 01:46AM
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alcoletrane starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 04:29AM
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mmmm yummy

ezrider10 Thu 4/12/2007 07:59AM
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its funny how gay mcallis is. my favorite band is umphs. but in my opinion this is going to be the gayest festival out there. not because of umhps, but bisco blows.. so it will suck

ezrider10 Thu 4/12/2007 08:01AM
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ezrider10

also weirman knows what the fuck is up. hez a ratdog chilla
maybe i am one too

weirman029 Thu 4/12/2007 08:16AM
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... you never had anything to say anyway, just rambiling on about how everyone is pussies and how your the shit haha...

mcallis1 starstarstarstarstar Thu 4/12/2007 12:51PM
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Not a umphs fan, nor am I a fag. Maybe you and weirman should get together and suck each other off while chillin listen to Ratdog...Actually, I dont believe that I am the shit..If you dont like Bisco , why are you on this thread...

mylesmagoo Thu 4/12/2007 04:52PM
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WOW. And the bullshit continues.....

christophershirley star Fri 4/13/2007 12:29PM
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This the most trivial forum I have ever read.
If your not a bisco or um fan, cool, plenty of other good music, but take your opinions else where, no one is interested in your bitching. If you are um or tDB fan, IGNORE nonsensical comments. Talk about something productive. Like the fact Lotus will be there. Anyone else in here catchin lotus' CO run? (so far its been sick...)

spltopenandmelt Sun 4/15/2007 07:11AM
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I'm a pretty hardcore UMphreak and have an appreciation for tDB but have yet to dive head first into their music. This will be a great opportunity for fans of both bands to see what the other has to offer. Umphrey's is the king of prog rock at this ponit. They have the ability to turn a show into an all out dance party, a fist-pumping metal show, a head-bobbing funk-fest, or a slippery phish-like circus of melody. Bisco, on the other hand, is the at the top of my trance list. For all of you Bisco haters, go to a show. I almost guarantee that you won't be able to stand still. Their shows almost implore the audience to get down and dirty.

As for generalizations about each respective bands' fan base, all I have to say is this: Generalities are usually uninformative. Except for my previous generality about generalities, which I bet was surprisingly enlightening.

Having said that, yes, there are some fans of both bands that suck. In the jam band scene, there really is no room for elitist chumps that can't open their ears to or at least respect other talented musicians. Hopefully this festival can bring fans of both these bands together to form one massive following. The collaborations on the parts of the band and the fans should be monumental. Bring your dancing shoes.

jeffkeyes Sun 4/15/2007 12:30PM
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wow, some of you guys really are bitches... fuckin grow up do you really have nothing better to do than rip on each other on a jambase forum? if you dont like umph, dont talk trash about them to all their fans... if you dont like bisco, again dont talk trash to people who actually do like them... i really hope i dont see some of the people on this forum at the festi... but then again why are you wasting your time here if you aren't planning on going? seriously though someone be the bigger man and just stop coming back to this forum to talk shit, nobody cares

STS9man Mon 4/16/2007 01:36PM
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bisco,muph sounds real intense

Dwizard Sat 4/21/2007 09:41PM
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As for who started this genre I'm wondering if anyof you are old enough to rember the G.O.N.G. band. Defiently a very early preview to what Ozarc has done and what the rest are coming up with. I haven't heard the Biscuits yet but I must say most of what I do hear is about an apparently obnoxious fan base. I'm not trying to start fights nor incriminate any one group of fans but if you are a Biscuit head please realize there is a hell of a lot of bad vibes out there for you all and if you want your scene to continue to grow you'd better act quick. It's my personnal belief that all scenes carrry with them some good as well as bad elements but the one thing we were always sure to do on Dead tour was to make sure that the bad crew was always outweighed by the good. It's as easy as smilling at a stranger. too many kids today are at the shows for drugs instead of music and it is a shame. Too many times recently I've walked out of a show hearing everyone talk about how amazing it was only to wonder what they saw because to my eyes and ears things were awfull! Then you get a look at their pupils and it's obvious these fools would even rave about John Tesh at Red Rocks. I used to have test to avoid these people, I'd ask why they went to their second show. Who cares why they went the first time but if the tell you they went back because of drugs you jknow their a fool. However if they respond because of the music you know you've found a friend. Now on a different note what about Luther from North Mississippi for greeat guitarists?

weirman029 Mon 4/23/2007 06:03PM
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Dwizard
... hell yeah man, hit the nail right on the head..

anTiCirCle Mon 4/30/2007 07:15PM
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hell yeah Dwizard right on!....im a fan of music...when i first started gettin into the biscuits, sts9, particle and shit like that, i really liked the music, and seeing it live. of course some performances are better than others.
but what kills it for me is the fucking crowd...
im gonna start this rant by saying that stereotypes exist for a goddamn reason. of course there are exceptions, but stereotypes in general do not just popup out of nowhere.
that being said, this whole 'electronica jam' genre has produced some kind of '21st century hippie' or psuedo hippie as i like to call them, that are more into their fucking dreadlocks and drugs and sunglasses than the music.
i like the disco biscuits' music but there is no way in hell i would consider myself a 'bisco kid'. i am not a hippie either. i am not a druggie. i just like to see good music in a comfortable setting and meet cool, friendly people. i have met, hung out with, and become friends with a few cool 'bisco kids' but most of them are just assholes. one of them even gave me the cold shoulder until she realized that i had known her from a few years prior, then she was cool with me...i mean what the fuck is that?
and thats not even the worst....most of these fucks are just shitheads...not friendly at all....i was completly surprised how much the crowd can ruin a show for me...i mean how many times am i gonna have someone who can barely talk asking me or telling me (whichever one it sounds like) something about fucking 'molly' and 'X'
sorry dipshit, don't feel like putting holes in my brain, mine still works!!
funny thing is ive never experienced that kinda shit at a phish show, for example, or other kinds of shows
besides the 'electronica' shows.

anyway just thought i'd give my opinion as objectively as possible, and if i offended any of you bisco kids out there, my message must have hit home



Ula Tue 5/1/2007 05:54PM
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You gotta love a guy (Dwizard) that has the wit to drop a "John Tesh at Redrocks" reference on this thread. CLASSIC!

mcarty333 Tue 5/1/2007 07:13PM
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I can't believe I just wasted 30 minutes reading this nonsense.

O1Roggae starstar Wed 5/2/2007 07:47AM
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Anyone here going to the UMPH/BISCO show in Pompano on 07/01? mcarty333 you are right, everyone in this thread complains too much about taste of music. I love almost every jam band I have seen. I have respect for all musicians and I feel that we should not get so angry about other peoples taste in music. Keep the vibes clean

fuckinmarley starstarstarstarstar Mon 5/7/2007 07:40AM
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weirman you should come down here to north carolina where we rage biscuits all fuckin day kid. tripping acid all the time at ratdog shows at age 18 great idea dude real smart!!!

PheelinPhunky starstarstarstarstar Tue 5/8/2007 11:08PM
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this is crazy i love both some ratdog and bisco and dont get me wrong i love me some ratdog but there is always a time and place for some bisco.....

panicheat Fri 5/11/2007 03:06PM
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u are all gay i could never enjoy this music i doubt any of you would feel comfortable not on E at this show listen to panic, they tear with herring bisco's guitarist shreds ill admit but,go stick some glitter and dildos up yalls ass's

xninjaxattackx Fri 5/18/2007 06:13AM
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anybody in the buffalo region gets to se umph for FREE!! may 31st they will be kickin off thursday in the square. sick!

groovatronics starstarstarstar Sat 5/26/2007 05:51PM
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damn this was a bitchy thread, i mean, why arent more people saying things like "FINALLY! COLORADO HAS SOME HIGH PROFILE FESTIVALS! YES!" sonic bloom, monolith, sunsation and this? i am very grateful to live in such a dank little community with such a killer-fuckin' music scene.
and honestly, it all depends on who you meet, like i can honestly say that i've seen more assholes at shows like cheese (ratdog was there too, bro) and the allmans than at a tribe show. but thats just how it happened to go. i know the burned out rave kids can bring some bad vibes, and yes, they probably are gonna trash the place, but aside from that, ump and bisco both make sick music and so do the other acts that will be there. I'M going to have fun and you should too.