VIRGIN: POLICE, PUMPKINS

how cool. im glad JAMbase took the time to cover this. I know I can't sleep a wink not knowing where the police will be at...

i DO like me some pumpkins though.

is it the original lineup or just corgan and some other people calling themselves the pumpkins?

Brass Monkey! That funky monkey!

i know this isnt the right spot for it, but i miss the forums :(

This festival was awesome last year, and will be a blast this year as well.
Thanks for the heads up.

thumbs up for keeping this in baltimore.

looks cool. but when im gettin my festi on i usually try and stay away from the police..

For the Pumpkins, the only original members are Billy and the drummer...Unless it's in a small venue, Hip Hop/Rap doesn't travel well in an open festival sound production. It's a shame the Beastie Boys don't use the same album beats when they play their live shows, I saw them once and I have some live recordings and in my opinion, listen to their records, the beats are what it's all about!

I wish i lived closer to maryland!

The nation's leading wireless youth network, Virgin Mobile USA provides more than 4.6 million customers with the most flexibility and choice in wireless products and services without long-term contracts......... blahblahblahblah


Top notch, jambase, really

What ganjjjj said... this was some obnoxiously blatant pandering to Virgin. Lame.

It's a press release about an event. We don't write these. Virgin sponsors this event, so Virgin talks about their product. Have a nice sip of whatever non-corporate beverage you enjoy and chill out.

"It's a press release about an event. We don't write these. Virgin sponsors this event, so Virgin talks about their product. Have a nice sip of whatever non-corporate beverage you enjoy and chill out."

^^^Correct, it's a press release, and whenever a news/media organization of any kind receives a press release from somebody, they always either 1. let an editor pick and choose the most important info from the piece, 2. Let their reporter expand on the piece and do thier own reporting. In this case, Kayceman lets Virgin unnecessarily throw garbage advertising in your face so he can have a chance to meet the Police and suck thier knobs.

This is a disgrace Jambase....u lucky that you guys have Getz on your team, because I enjoy his pieces....rest of you should go back to middle school.

As legal council to WanderingBard and ganjjjj: I only drink water. I get it myself from the Spring, I don't use a cell phone, and publishing this release is accessory to a terrible crime. For shame Jambase. Now not only do we have to question all of the completely depressive crap music that you continue to shove down our throats, we also have to wander if you wrote it yourself or simply print it because you can't come up with anything better.

Is it really that big a deal to have Virgin push their product at the end of a press release? Where is the harm? Do tell? And who is pushing "depressive crap music" (examples please) down your throat? We present a rather large variety of editorial views and we have the largest tour date database pretty much ever - and how much do we charge all of you for this incredible amount of work? Right. I know you are just scouring the web/world looking for something to complain about, but come on, you can do better.

"We present a rather large variety of editorial views and we have the largest tour date database pretty much ever - and how much do we charge all of you for this incredible amount of work?"

I guess your advertising guy needs to do a better job of selling your banner space on your page. Because, well, if you did charge us to use your wonderful website and database, then somebody else will fill that void.

Look, just admit that it was late on a Friday, everybody wants to go home or see a show, etc...and it was just too easy to just print the release word for word and slap it up.

Mdpickles are you proposing that JamBase should be censoring press releases about live music...?
You mention the importance of advertising... if Virgin and other sponsors didn't sponsor large events like this there would be less choice for concert-goers abroad... is that really what you want... censorship and less live music? Or are you just bored on your Friday evening and making your hate rounds to message boards.

Cheebus, what the hell's wrong with you people? If nobody sponsored anything, Bonnaroo tickets would cost four hundred bucks, bands wouldn't tour as much, and there wouldn't be signs advertising virgins. Appreciate the wealth of music you can see instead of nitpicking and namecalling behind the safety of a computer screen. From Guatemala, all this smacks of wankertude.

tickets for Custyroo when I went was just a little over 100$, It sold out in three weeks at 90K, not the 68K bonarroo is today. The advertising wasn't there. Then super fly sold us out. the rest is history. It might as well be the virgin mobile bonnaroo 07

jambase is all about music....read what i just learned about music on jambase...

"The nation's leading wireless youth network, Virgin Mobile USA provides more than 4.6 million customers with the most flexibility and choice in wireless products and services without long-term contracts. Voice pricing plans range from monthly options with unlimited nights and weekends to bythe- minute offers, allowing consumers to adjust how and what they pay according to their needs. Virgin Mobile's full slate of smart, stylish and affordable handsets, including the popular Switch_Back and Slice, are available at more than 35,000 retail locations nationwide and online at www.virginmobileusa.com, with Top-Up cards available at more than 130,000 locations. Virgin Mobile USA's network services are provided on the Nationwide Sprint PCS Network, and the company is a joint venture between Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group and Sprint Nextel. J.D. Power and Associates has ranked Virgin Mobile highest in customer satisfaction among wireless prepaid services, and its own customers report a 94% satisfaction rate. Proud of its charitable and environmental programs, Virgin Mobile donates 5% of profits from downloadable content to The RE*Generation, its pro-social initiative to help millions of at-risk and homeless teens; and provides postage-paid return envelopes in every new package for customers to recycle old phones.

About Virgin USA
Virgin, a leading branded venture capital organization, is one of the world's most recognized and respected brands. Virgin USA oversees and is responsible for the expansion of the Virgin brand in North America, blasting into markets where the customer is underserved, offering value for money, good quality, innovation, exceptional customer service, fun and a sense of competitive challenge. Existing businesses like Virgin Atlantic Airways, the award-winning transatlantic airline; Virgin Mobile USA, the leading wireless youth network; Virgin Megastores, the groundbreaking music stores; and Virgin Comics, an entertainment and media company creating original stories and epic myths for worldwide audiences, have already laid a powerful footprint in North America. Building upon the success of these businesses, Virgin USA continues to look for opportunities in North America where it can offer something better, fresher and more valuable to consumers."

Pickles: 2
Kayceman: 0

...Sucks to lose an argument on your own board, but it looks like it just happened. This free corporate advertising shit has been happening with much more frequency over the past couple of months here on what was once the coolest music site on the web...The Iphone, the Virgin pandering...It sucks, man. We don't like it, straight up. We get enough of it elsewhere, and we don't come here to find out about products. I work for a relatively large company, I work with big companies all day long trying to get them to change, and at the end of the day when its time to find out about shows where I can forget the whole fucking thing, I don't want to have to sift through ads to find real stories. I believe in capitalism. Responsible capitalism. I'm not suggesting that we revert to mud huts and socialism, and it annoys the fuck out of me that everytime somebody calls you out on corporate pandering thats the argument you and others present in rebuttal. Its not black and white like that, and you know it. Grow some balls and start saying no to blatantly obnoxious ads like this, Kayce. You're the man, you've done so many good things on this site, and sadly, its starting to look like HUBRIS is getting the best of ya. You honestly think this is a good story? Seriously? You've proven you're better than this in the past, but we need a reminder.

The most hilarious thing is that you claim you're not paid by Virgin/Apple to post crap like this. One of the following two things is true: a) you're telling the truth, which means you're stupid enough to advertise for a corporation like Virgin without at least making some money for a charity or hell, even your own pockets, or b) you're lying through your teeth. Either way, bad call bro.

This post brought to you by: me. Not some fucking megafootprint, profiteering bullshit excuse for a means to make a living.

are we supposed to like the police because of oysterhead? did y'all read the comments copland made about miles & coltrane & jazz in general? what an idiot. swmashing pumkins??? beasties = maybe. in conclusion; f**k the police!

People don't like the police? Really? Must be some kind of political thing that I don't have any idea about, because I've always like their music.

Have to agree about the two paragraphs of plugs for virgin, though.

As a lifelong Baltimoron it's great to see shows like this come through our town. Stewart Copeland with Oysterhead was great at Bonnaroo last summer and hearing those old songs live finally will be really cool. Pumpkins and Beasties as well. But I love JamBase and it sucks to see such corporate blaber infiltrating what was once simply the best place to get info about shows.

I just shit my pants and busted a nut at the same time.

fuck yeah b-more again!!! last year was amazing and now 2 days!!

now now, lets all get along
if it wasn't for signs advertising for virgins,
then i wouldn't have gotten laid last night

I'll bet this is all Trey's fault!

jesus - let's bash on jambase for this. let's bash jambase for that. as kayce said, how much do they charge you for this service? Zero, zilch! Quit your your bitching about irrelevant shit like a virgin promo. You should be talking about how sweet it is that this is the Pumpkins first show in the states.

let those among you who have not sinned cast the first stone....
just curious but how many of you are [posting these responses on a computer you bought from some huge corporation????
actually i have to use one at work i dont own a computer
but i do drink a coca-cola every now and then

There's really no argument. This is the VIRGIN MOBILE festival. We can take out the blurb about Virgin, but it's still their festival... are we really still talking about this? Man, I can only dream of a day when this is what bothers me about the world. I'm w/ J-bizzle, can't we talk about the music? Seems like a whole lotta folks are far more interested in searching for something to whine about. I'm all for The Police, Pumpkins and Beasties. And I really don't care if Virgin sponsors it. Someone has to fork up the money - let it be Virgin; tis fine with me.

i can do 100 push-ups in 20 minutes.

No shit....readers, skip the gratuitous paragraphs that are ads. I stopped at the end of the 3rd sentence when it said "On-sale dates for tickets, the rest of the very diverse two-day line-up and additional information about the Festival will be announced in the coming weeks."

Or, you could read on for 15 more minutes, and then spend the next hour posting negative comments and refreshing the page to see who wants to spar.

How can you be alive in 2007, read this website, listen to the music discussed here, and not yet discern noise from information?

soul is good! lets hope to keep 'em

You guys arguing are a bunch of homo's. Get off jambase if your too freakin'hippy. You are so cool!

I use to like these bands in grade school, im writing to bitch about the people who bitch about the people who bitch

This sounds like a good festival, but it seems odd that its up against Lollapalooza in Chicago. I understand there are only so many weekends but, if I have to choose between VIRGIN and PERRY, its definitly Perry.

I can do 101 pushups in 19 minutes.

Okay Im not crazy about the whole corporate plug thing either. Would rather read about who's playing, and so far three "greatest hits" shows. Would have been better for this site if it had been about Branson's environmental efforts rather than his cell phone hawking abilities. But then again, it's their release not mine.

Everyone griping about their loss of control of the scene should have already realized by now, especially w/ all their "out-of-the-box" thinking, that anything that becomes popular will eventually attract advertising. I mean come on, name something that is incredibly popular, whether by the "scene's" standard or by the standards of reality. Just like our best friends want to go to a show we exclaim about for 2 weeks after it is over, so too, do the people who want to make money. I want to make money too, and you better believe, if I can sell it to 'our scene', I will. The point is, every person who reads/posts/argues/keeps score on this message board contributes to the 'corporate-ness' of everything we touch. If you want to stop companies from using you as a means by which to make money, please shoot yourself.
Otherwise, realize exactly in which country you live (for the US people anyway), and learn to leave your gripes about stuff you cannot change at the door.
Do like Danpfunk offered, stop reading when the topic gets un-interesting to you. I didn't even know all that Virgin crap was up there......BECAUSE I DIDN'T READ THAT FAR!!!

I am hear for the music information, and as soon as that is finsihed, so am I. Practice self control and stop reading when you are getting upset about WHAT you are reading. Or, if that is impossible, go to another site. Remember, you get what you pay for, and this service is free. What exactly makes you come back? After all, there isn't a single piece of information on this site you can't find elsewhere.

Just remember, we are all part of this hamster wheel, and even if you don't like it, you still perpetuate the insanity simply by being a part of it.

No matter who pays for it, good music is good music. I can't change that, so I choose to embrace it. Really ain't that hard. =)

Emo :: 3/23/2007 6:52 PM :: 0

tickets for Custyroo when I went was just a little over 100$, It sold out in three weeks at 90K, not the 68K bonarroo is today. The advertising wasn't there. Then super fly sold us out. the rest is history. It might as well be the virgin mobile bonnaroo 07


What year was that? Because when I went to the first one they had a tent sponsored by Pal Mal where they HANDED OUT FREE CIGARETTES!!! What could be more heady than handing out super dank, organic cancer sticks? I didn't like it, but I ignored it and accepted that fact that it was part of putting on the festival.

It's amazing how the lore of the supposed utopia that was the first B-roo keeps getting more and more ridiculous each time a wook spins the legend. It's also amazing how they even complain about the 'kick downs' they get, just because they come from corporate sponsors.

How hard is it to read what you want to at the beginning and skip the rest of it? Those of you that read the whole press release and then spend time bitching about it are wasting your time. Those are great headliners for that festival, by the way.

I think the sponsor of this festival would benifit by advertising with jambase if they dont already...I also think jambase should be paid to talk about the sponsor this mucth. if they havent yet it is a crime! This music makes the event news to enough people and factoring in all that it takes to keep the database rolling over the years i figure i could deal with Virgin a bit around here. BUT only in they pay up! jambase has earned it!

this lust for music we all have ties in to the travel industry well and jambase needs to come up a bit somewhere. i dont know alot about Virgin but i know that they at least try to pretend they care about ethics...who knows. it could all be PR bullshit?

someone should be paid to talk about how we can acess this festival from a place like the sf bay area...Burlingame perhaps?

Tactic is right though, how about the Pumpkins showing some home-town love and doing Lolla, but instead they're in Baltimore? This fest needed those three b/c it's not going to stand up to Lolla. I wouldn't be surprised if both the Beasties and Pumpkins are also at Lolla. You guys don't like the Police? Wow, for people who are suppose to be open to music the police are fucking monumental. I mean shit, how else could we remember BIGGIE if it wasn't for the Police? No matter how lame Sting has become, he's a nasty bass player when he's not practicing tantric sex.

One other point, how do you think this site is produced? For free? No, sorry. Get over it. holla

I'm just posting to complain about the people who complain, about the people who complain about the people that complain. (Ala uncljohnsband5's joke.)

...I know, I know...I didn't really add anything.

-I just wanted to belong. (Simpson's reference.)

Man, can I have one original thought...DAMN YOU VIRGIN Mobilllllllllllllllle

Back off of Kayceman. The guy does a kick ass job with this site and it seems that most of you attacking the tiny corporate advertizing blurb need to take a look at your hipocricy. Such as the operating system that your computer is using to post and the high speed line that its going over. I bet the majority of you are using a telepathic uplink while you live in your eco-friendly hut in montana...right... I find it hard to believe that a small blurb on Virgin is physically and emotionally harming all of you to a point where you cannot fuction. Get over yourselves.

i can do 1000 in 20 min usmc

damn shit

the pumpkins wont be playing a "greatest hits" show. they do have new material coming out this july.